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Subject: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 7:59am
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Well, Folks, I uploaded my digiscoped pictures from yesterday and got some
surprizing results. My efforts were not entirely futile. I didn't get a picture
of the Semipalmated Sandpipe, I got the Solitary sandpipers rear view. I thought
I was focused in on a Golden Plover but when I got home it turns out It is a
picture of a Pectoral sandpiper. Beak was tucked in, but everything else
matched. There is a Least Sandpiper in the picture for scale. I was close enough
that I got clear digiscoping results on a Greater Yellowlegs, Lesser
Yellowlegs, the Pectoral ( ? ) Sandpiper. and fuzzys on the Golden Ploverand
Semipalmated Sandpiper. I will be back out there today, with my good camera
I hope they are still around.
I am also going to print off photos of those to show around. Jacque Brown
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Subject: Re: exotic waterfowl
From: agfckrowe <agfckrowe(AT)FUTURA.NET>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 8:07am
State wildlife agencies agree with Gary's comment that "The general
consensus in academic circles is that exotic species, regardless of
their beauty, should not be permitted to establish footholds in North
America." Most states have laws similar to the Arkansas Game and Fish
Commission's that it is illegal to release non-native wildlife, (such as
Egyptian geese) into the wild.
Years ago, when AGFC was establishing Giant Canada geese on the Arkansas
River, we had a pen of flightless geese on the Holla Bend NWR. I went
to look at the geese with our waterfowl biologist and we discovered that
someone had placed an individual of a non-native species of goose into
the pen, but no one knew what kind of goose it was. Reaching far back
into my memory of my grandfather and his collection of exotic geese I
identified it correctly as an Egyptian goose. The questions of who put
it there or why was never answered.
Also, keep in mind that exotics or non-natives are not just limited to
waterfowl. There are licensed falconers and raptor breeders across the
nation, including in Arkansas that possess and/or breed lanner falcons,
hawk eagles, Eurasian kestrels, just to name a few. Occasionally these
birds escape or our lost.
Karen Rowe
-----Original Message-----
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
[mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Graves, Gary
Sent: Thursday, April 03, 2008 6:45 PM
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: exotic waterfowl
Keeping exotic waterfowl is still a very popular hobby in North America
and Europe. Every species that breeds naturally in the USA is kept in
captivity (many species in large numbers) and most of the accidentals
(e.g., Falcated Teal, Tufted Duck, Common Pochard, Smew, Barnacle Goose,
etc.) are also held in surprising numbers. Anseriform hybrids are also
created in sizeable numbers in captivity. Unbanded individuals escape
from time to time. Those that aren't killed rapidly by predators are
eventually observed by birders or shot by hunters.
When are they countable? Countability is generally refereed by
committee, most notably by the checklist committee of the American
Ornithologist Union (dating back to the 1880s) and more recently by the
American Birding Association. To be "countable," an exotic species has
to have established a stable, self-sustaining population that persists
for a period of decades. Most introduced species never reach the point
of sustainability in mainland USA. Starlings, House Sparrows,
Ring-necked Pheasant, Gray Partridge, and Mute Swan are examples of
species that have self-sustaining populations and have been added to the
AOU checklist. Only time will tell if the dozens of other exotic
species introduced in the USA (e.g., parakeets, parrots, estrildid
finches, pigeons, tanagers, etc.) establish sustaining populations. The
general consensus in academic circles is that exotic species, regardless
of their beauty, should not be permitted to establish footholds in North
America.
Why didn't Sibley illustrate the Ivory-billed Woodpecker? I would guess
that he didn't include it for the same reason he omitted the Labrador
Duck, Heath Hen, Great Auk, Passenger Pigeon, and Bachman's
Warbler....too little space to include species that haven't been
reliably reported in decades. I'm sure Sibley would be more than happy
to include an Ivory-bill in the next edition of his book (especially if
someone comes up with unequivocal proof of it's continued existence).
Gary Graves
Smithsonian Institution
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Subject: About that goose:
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 8:59am
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for all you folks talking about the exotic goose at Centerton. My childhood
friend and long time buddy lives about a mile plus south of the fish
hatchery on a dairy farm that has been in her family for generations. she is
not a
birder but she told me about this unusual bird a few years ago..three or
four?? it had been at their farm, I believe..
JoAnne Rife in the Arkansas Ozarks
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Subject: Oops!
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 9:15am
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As a retired teacher, I am not of the generation that ignores the rules. I
usually edit my messages...but this one got sent without capitals!! Sorry!
JASR
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Subject: Re: Fw: Gull ID Help
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 9:18am
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Because even Sibley can't be perfect!
JoAnne Rife in the Arkansas Ozarks
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Subject: Fw: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 9:28am
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Correction, It turns out my Semipalmated Sandpiper is a Baird's Sandpiper. Oh
Well, Good news is this makes a lifer for me instead of a FOY bird. Verified by
Mike Mlodinow. Jacque
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)yahoo.com>
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 7:59:02 AM
Subject: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
Well, Folks, I uploaded my digiscoped pictures from yesterday and got some
surprizing results. My efforts were not entirely futile. I didn't get a picture
of the Semipalmated Sandpipe, I got the Solitary sandpipers rear view. I thought
I was focused in on a Golden Plover but when I got home it turns out It is a
picture of a Pectoral sandpiper. Beak was tucked in, but everything else
matched. There is a Least Sandpiper in the picture for scale. I was close enough
that I got clear digiscoping results on a Greater Yellowlegs, Lesser
Yellowlegs, the Pectoral ( ? ) Sandpiper. and fuzzys on the Golden Ploverand
Semipalmated Sandpiper. I will be back out there today, with my good camera
I hope they are still around.
I am also going to print off photos of those to show around. Jacque Brown
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
Access, No Cost.
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Subject: Re: Sibley vs. IBWO
From: "Steven W. Cardiff" <scardif(AT)LSU.EDU>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 10:04am
ARBIRD,
In addition to IBWO and the other species indicated by Dr. Graves,
Sibley also considered Eskimo Curlew, Carolina Parakeet, and Dusky Seaside
Sparrow as "presumed extinct." See the "Extinct Species" section of his
book (page 14).
Steve Cardiff
On 4/3/08 7:44 PM, "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> wrote:
>
> Why didn't Sibley illustrate the Ivory-billed Woodpecker? I would guess that
> he didn't include it for the same reason he omitted the Labrador Duck, Heath
> Hen, Great Auk, Passenger Pigeon, and Bachman's Warbler....too little space
to
> include species that haven't been reliably reported in decades. I'm sure
> Sibley would be more than happy to include an Ivory-bill in the next edition
> of his book (especially if someone comes up with unequivocal proof of it's
> continued existence).
>
>
> Gary Graves
> Smithsonian Institution
>
>
>
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Subject: Re: Possible Whip and Positive bugs
From: Jack and Pam <jackstewart_us(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 10:21am
According to Pam, who is awakened by such things, the
Whip-poor-will arrived here at Erbie on the Buffalo
River on March 24. He was heard again two nights
later and hasn't been singing consistently since then.
Jack Stewart
Newton County
--- Jeffrey Short <bashman(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> wrote:
> Big storm tonight. Right before it got loud, I
> thought I heard a whip-poor-will-type call, but only
> once. I'll be listening again tomorrow.
>
> Also, the high-flying (>60 ft), lightning bugs are
> back. Last year they showed on 23 Mar and the year
> before (2006) it was on 1 Apr.
>
> Jeff Short
> At the bottom loop of the backwards "S" on the
> continuation of the Ouachita River
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Subject: Arkansas Birder Update
From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 10:21am
I've updated the Arkansas Birder website for better performance,
greater compatibility, and more flexible photo and video viewing.
The Guest, Quiz, and Video pages have been replaced by the Gallery.
All videos and photos, including the bird identification quiz, are now
accessible via the Gallery. The new photo display interface supports
more viewing formats - grid, mosaic, carousel, and fullscreen
slideshow. The new video interface lets you choose from several video
sizes depending upon your preference or bandwidth - tiny, small,
medium, large, and fullscreen.
The new photo display formats are compatible with the Firefox 3 beta 4
browser. The old one (Guest) was not. If you are using Firefox 2 or
Safari 3, no worries. If you are using Internet Explorer, why? It'll
probably work as well or better than before, but I have no way of
checking it myself.
For faster loading of guest photos, they have been divided between the
more recent photos in the Guest Photos Gallery and the 500 older ones
in the Guest Photos Archive.
There are now 326 photos of 247 species on the Bird Identification
page. Only 156 species to go. :-)
Enjoy. And keep the photos coming.
Dennis
"Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen
Hawking
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Subject: Fw: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 1:20pm
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I went back out to the Fish Hatchery today, the drained pond had several Least
and Baird's Sandpipers.
However, the Baird's was not what I saw yesterday, my bird was small like a
Least and had a stubbier bill. But now I am thinking what I saw as a pectoral
might have been a Bairds. I need to review my birds leg color. Black legs,
Bairds. Orange legs, Pectoral. It was standing in water so it's hard to tell
just how tall it was.
There was also 3 Golden Plovers standing on a Levee between two ponds. I think I
got a decent picture of the Plovers from 50-60 ft. I got good pictures of the
two sandpipers. They were almost to close to photograph. Jacque Brown, Bella
Vista.
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)yahoo.com>
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 9:28:10 AM
Subject: Fw: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
Correction, It turns out my Semipalmated Sandpiper is a Baird's Sandpiper. Oh
Well, Good news is this makes a lifer for me instead of a FOY bird. Verified by
Mike Mlodinow. Jacque
----- Forwarded Message ----
From: Jacque Brown <jacque.brown1102(AT)yahoo.com>
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Friday, April 4, 2008 7:59:02 AM
Subject: results show-Centerton Fish Hatchery
Well, Folks, I uploaded my digiscoped pictures from yesterday and got some
surprizing results. My efforts were not entirely futile. I didn't get a picture
of the Semipalmated Sandpipe, I got the Solitary sandpipers rear view. I thought
I was focused in on a Golden Plover but when I got home it turns out It is a
picture of a Pectoral sandpiper. Beak was tucked in, but everything else
matched. There is a Least Sandpiper in the picture for scale. I was close enough
that I got clear digiscoping results on a Greater Yellowlegs, Lesser
Yellowlegs, the Pectoral ( ? ) Sandpiper. and fuzzys on the Golden Ploverand
Semipalmated Sandpiper. I will be back out there today, with my good camera
I hope they are still around.
I am also going to print off photos of those to show around. Jacque Brown
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
Access, No Cost.
You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total
Access, No Cost.
____________________________________________________________________________________
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Access, No Cost.
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Subject: More Lunchtime Birding in Ouachita County
From: Kelly Chitwood <kchitwood(AT)CABLELYNX.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 2:22pm
The rains subsided at lunch, long enough
for me to skedaddle over to the flooded
fields just off Ouachita 44, where Palmer
Bayou dumps into the Ouachita River.
Mosquitoes were numerous. Too numerous.
Habitat is mixed, open fields with water one side
of road, riparian on the other side of the road.
Blue-winged Teal
Northern Shoveler (looking pretty and fresh)
Hooded Merganser
Great Egret
Little Blue Heron
Black Vulture
Turkey Vulture
Red-shouldered Hawk
Mourning Dove
Belted Kingfisher
Great Crested Flycatcher
White-eyed Vireo
Yellow-throated Vireo
Blue Jay
American Crow
Purple Martin
Carolina Chickadee
Tufted Titmouse
Carolina Wren
Ruby-crowned Kinglet
Blue-gray Gnatcatcher
Eastern Bluebird
Hermit Thrush
American Robin
Northern Mockingbird
Brown Thrasher
Northern Parula
Yellow-rumped Warbler
Black-and-White Warbler
Common Yellowthroat
Hooded Warbler (FOY)
Eastern Towhee
Chipping Sparrow
White-throated Sparrow
Dark-eyed Junco
Northern Cardinal
American Goldfinch
Cheers!
Kelly Chitwood
Camden, AR
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Subject: Yellow-headed Blackbird
From: Patricia Braddy <pabraddy(AT)MAC.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 4:23pm
Kenny & LaDonna Nichols reports seeing a Yellow-headed Blackbird
approximately 1/2 mi. west of the entrance to Holla Bend National
Wildlife Refuge.
Dennis & Patricia Braddy
Little Rock, AR
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Subject: Re: Sibley vs. IBWO
From: "Popham, James J Civ USAF AETC 314 CES/CEVA" <james.popham(AT)LITTLEROCK.AF.MIL>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 5:05pm
It sure makes it hard for people to identify rare birds if they're not
in the field guides.
James T. Popham
Natural Resources Manager
(501) 987-3681 DSN 731
FAX (501) 987-8327
-----Original Message-----
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
[mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven W. Cardiff
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:05 AM
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Sibley vs. IBWO
ARBIRD,
In addition to IBWO and the other species indicated by Dr. Graves,
Sibley also considered Eskimo Curlew, Carolina Parakeet, and Dusky
Seaside Sparrow as "presumed extinct." See the "Extinct Species"
section of his book (page 14).
Steve Cardiff
On 4/3/08 7:44 PM, "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> wrote:
>
> Why didn't Sibley illustrate the Ivory-billed Woodpecker? I would
> guess that he didn't include it for the same reason he omitted the
> Labrador Duck, Heath Hen, Great Auk, Passenger Pigeon, and Bachman's
> Warbler....too little space to include species that haven't been
> reliably reported in decades. I'm sure Sibley would be more than
> happy to include an Ivory-bill in the next edition of his book
> (especially if someone comes up with unequivocal proof of it's
continued existence).
>
>
> Gary Graves
> Smithsonian Institution
>
>
>
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Subject: Yellow-headed Blackbird and Lesser Black-backed Gulls
From: Patricia Braddy <pabraddy(AT)MAC.COM>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 5:32pm
Dennis called to say he found the Yellow-headed Blackbird 1.2 mi.
west of the entrance to Holla Bend NWR in a flooded field on the south
side of AR-155. Also Kenny Nichols says there are currently 2 Lesser
Black-backed Gulls in Delaware Bay at Lake Dardanelle.
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Subject: Re: Sibley vs. IBWO
From: Leslie Peacock <leslie_peacock(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET>
Date: 4 Apr 2008 8:04pm
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Sibley's website includes ivory-bill drawings that you can download and add to
your book. He added them to his website posted after the announcement from the
Big Woods. Go to http://www.sibleyguides.com/ivorybilled.pdf
"Popham, James J Civ USAF AETC 314 CES/CEVA" <james.popham(AT)LITTLEROCK.AF.MIL>
wrote:
It sure makes it hard for people to identify rare birds if they're not
in the field guides.
James T. Popham
Natural Resources Manager
(501) 987-3681 DSN 731
FAX (501) 987-8327
-----Original Message-----
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
[mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Steven W. Cardiff
Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 10:05 AM
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Sibley vs. IBWO
ARBIRD,
In addition to IBWO and the other species indicated by Dr. Graves,
Sibley also considered Eskimo Curlew, Carolina Parakeet, and Dusky
Seaside Sparrow as "presumed extinct." See the "Extinct Species"
section of his book (page 14).
Steve Cardiff
On 4/3/08 7:44 PM, "Graves, Gary" wrote:
>
> Why didn't Sibley illustrate the Ivory-billed Woodpecker? I would
> guess that he didn't include it for the same reason he omitted the
> Labrador Duck, Heath Hen, Great Auk, Passenger Pigeon, and Bachman's
> Warbler....too little space to include species that haven't been
> reliably reported in decades. I'm sure Sibley would be more than
> happy to include an Ivory-bill in the next edition of his book
> (especially if someone comes up with unequivocal proof of it's
continued existence).
>
>
> Gary Graves
> Smithsonian Institution
>
>
>
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