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ARBIRD-L for Friday, May 16, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Jeff R. Wilson  5:41am 
 Mourning and Philadelphia vireos  Jacque Brown   8:33am 
 Photo Puzzle  Dennis Braddy   9:18am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  George R. Hoelzeman  9:29am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  George R. Hoelzeman  9:31am 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Charles Mills   9:41am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  FENNELL, Ellen  9:49am 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Graves, Gary  9:56am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  Evelyn Ford   10:54am 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Leslie Keith Koller   11:03am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  Evelyn Ford   11:04am 
 The Lord God Bird  =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ross_  11:16am 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Dennis Braddy   11:32am 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  Dottie Boyles   11:38am 
 Western Kingbird, Washington Co.  Abigail Jeneane Darr  11:39am 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Leslie Peacock   11:54am 
 More on Swainson's  Hope Coulter   12:04pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Curry, Neil  12:12pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Dennis Braddy   12:22pm 
 moved to Alabama Coast  Fred Robinson   12:54pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David  1:11pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Jeff R. Wilson  1:40pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Nick Anich   1:40pm 
 Re: Swainson's Warbler  Leslie Peacock   1:59pm 
 Birds, other Wildlife and Fescue  Jerry W Davis   2:51pm 
 Re: Photo Puzzle  FENNELL, Ellen  3:32pm 
 Swainson's  Graves, Gary  3:39pm 
 Photo Puzzle  Dennis Braddy   4:09pm 
 Re: Swainson's  Jeff R. Wilson  4:19pm 
 Mourning Warbler, Philadelphia Vireo, Bell Trail Map  Dennis Braddy   5:14pm 
 odd goose and RB Grosbeak  =?iso-8859-1?Q?Donna  6:01pm 
 Re: Swainson's  Graves, Gary  6:58pm 
 Re: Swainson's  Jeff R. Wilson  7:41pm 
 Re: odd goose and RB Grosbeak  =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David  8:28pm 
 Re: Swainson's  Dale Provost   9:34pm 
 Allsopp Saturday morning?  Jim Dixon   9:48pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 5:41am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:40:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dprovost(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET writes: I found a bird that looked like a Swainson's Warbler, which I sent to Dan Scheiman, who confirmed it. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> This bird sure looks like a drab Philadelphia Vireo to me, blunt tipped bill too small,dark line through lores, tail short, legs dark, domed crown. Any other photos? Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Mourning and Philadelphia vireos From: Jacque Brown <bluebird2(AT)COX.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 8:33am Good Morning all, When I went on the IMBD with Mike Mlodinow and David Oakley and David Chapman, I was able to get photos of both Mourning Vireo and Philadelphia Vireo's. I put them on the computer that night and burned a CD for Wal Mart photos later. I'm finding that with all the green tint in the under story of the trees I am sometimes having trouble distinguishing which was which. This is especially hard when the main difference is the amount of yellow on the breast. I'm pretty sure I got these two straight. Looking at Dale Provost's photo of the Swainson's Warbler it looks so much like my photos it's unbelievable. I know we did not get that bird on our bird count. The only difference I can see is, despite the green tint, you can see the rufous crown on the Swainson's. My bird photos have the gray crown. Jacque. -- Jacque Brown Bella Vista, Benton, Co AR, bluebird2(AT)cox.net
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Photo Puzzle From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 9:18am --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA)--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: "George R. Hoelzeman" <uiogd(AT)ARKANSAS.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 9:29am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Without getting one of the bird guides out, my first thought (well, second thought) is that the woodpecker's plumage is wrong. Its a Pileated head on a Ivory Bill body. . . . I think I know the crest is wrongish for an IBWO. My first real thought was "dag! they nailed it into the tree" I thought that was a big no-no. George (n. Conway Co. where loggers still avoid border trees) --Original Message Text--- From: Dennis Braddy Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:17 -0500 Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: "George R. Hoelzeman" <uiogd(AT)ARKANSAS.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 9:31am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Oh - and does "motorized vehicle" include "boat with motor" since I notice the area is flooded. Probably not year round, I'm guessing. How old is the sign? George (n. Conway Co. were signs get shot long before they get dirty) --Original Message Text--- From: Dennis Braddy Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 09:18:17 -0500 Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Charles Mills <swamp_fox(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 9:41am --Apple-Mail-1-713416060 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Acknowledging up front the risk of making an identification from a single photograph, I've got to side with Jeff in this case. The bird shown just doesn't bring Swainson's to mind. I may very well end up eating a bit of crow here but, with the right sauce (bar-b-que, tequila, etc.), it's usually not so bad. Charles Mills Ogden AR 71853 Sent from my iPhone On May 16, 2008, at 5:40 AM, "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> wrote: > > > In a message dated 5/15/2008 10:40:20 P.M. Central Daylight Time, dprovost(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET > writes: > I found a bird that > looked like a Swainson's Warbler, which I sent to Dan Scheiman, who > confirmed it. > > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > This bird sure looks like a drab Philadelphia Vireo to me, blunt > tipped bill too small,dark line through lores, tail short, legs > dark, domed crown. Any other photos? > Good Birding !!! > > Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA > 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road > Bartlett, TN 38135 > http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ > What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. > > > > Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family > favorites at AOL Food. --Apple-Mail-1-713416060 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-1-713416060--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: "FENNELL, Ellen" <EFENNELL(AT)AUDUBON.ORG> Date: 16 May 2008 9:49am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- It appears to have the white feathers on the lower half of the wings of the= Ivory-bill but no white markings extending down the back. Ellen M. Fennell Director of Development Audubon Arkansas 201 East Markham Street, Suite 450 Little Rock, AR 72201 Tel: 501.244.2229 Fax: 501.244.2231 www.ar.audubon.org<http://www.ar.audubon.org> DONATE ONLINE to protect the Little River Bottoms https://loon.audubon.org/payment/donate/ARLRBDF.html When one tugs at a single thing in nature; he finds it attached to the rest= of the world. -- John Muir -----Original Message----- From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List [mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.= EDU] On Behalf Of Dennis Braddy Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:18 AM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Photo Puzzle Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property<htt= p://gallery.mac.com/dmbraddy/100241/Defaced-20Government-20Property/web.jpg= >? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawki= ng ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> Date: 16 May 2008 9:56am A number of people have sent in reports of a Swainson's Warbler from Alsopp Park. This is a significant record because they have largely disappeared from Pulaski County since the 1970's, outside the Wrightsville area. Some of the ARBIRD postings contain questionable information. Because of their secretive behavior, Swainson's are seldom seen except when they respond to song recordings. Optimal habitat is too thick to walk through and usually too thick to see through. Swainson's migration is largely over in Arkansas by 25 April. Individuals seen after that date are on territory or attempting to establish territories. Undisturbed territorial males sing mostly from the ground. Appearance wise, they are unlikely to be confused with any other species (olive brown above, cream color below, and except for the pale superciliary, unmarked by streaks, stripes, or wing bars). Dale's photo depicts a Philadelphia Vireo, not a Swainson's Warbler. The silhouette alone is enough to rule out Swainson's (Swainson's has a much longer, sharper bill with a nearly straight culmen). The Swainson's song can be confused with that of the Louisiana Waterthrush. In fact, the third cut of "Swainson's Warbler" on the Cornell warbler song CD is actually a Louisiana Waterthrush. Many competent birders confuse the songs of those two species. To complicate matters, Louisiana Waterthrushes often respond to playback of Swainson's songs. Swainson's conduct 99% of their foraging maneuvers on the ground, in dead leaf litter. If you see a warbler foraging in the canopy, it is not a Swainson's Warbler. Swainson's also do not join mixed-species flocks of warblers and vireos (even when flocks pass through breeding territories). Gary Graves Smithsonian Institution ________________________________ From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List on behalf of Dale Provost Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 11:40 PM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Swainson's Warbler In reviewing my photos of May 3, (in Allsopp Park, LR) I found a bird that looked like a Swainson's Warbler, which I sent to Dan Scheiman, who confirmed it. Craig and I have been chasing that bird for the past two weeks, not knowing that we had it after all. We had thought that we had seen it, but were glad to get confirmation. Photo at: http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/image/97125949
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: Evelyn Ford <eafrn(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 10:54am <table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' ><tr><td style='font: inherit;'><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/16/08, Dennis Braddy <I><dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM></I></B> wrote:<BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM><BR>Subject: Photo Puzzle<BR>To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<BR>Date: Friday, May 16, 2008, 9:18 AM<BR><BR> <DIV id=yiv193466609>Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo <A href="http://gallery.mac.com/dmbraddy/100241/Defaced-20Government-20Property/web.jpg" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Defaced Government Property</A>? <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Dennis Braddy</DIV> <DIV>Little Rock, AR</DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.arkansasbirder.net/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.arkansasbirder.net</A></DIV><BR> <DIV>"Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Leslie Keith Koller <les_koller(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 11:03am Dan Scheiman and I had the Swainson's Warbler at Allsopp park last Tuesday...it responed to the taped play-back, and I had my binoculars on the bird when it sang back. Co-incedently, it was calling from a stand of cane also...about 3 feet off the ground. Leslie Koller Benton, Saline Co, Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> To: <ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler A number of people have sent in reports of a Swainson's Warbler from Alsopp Park. This is a significant record because they have largely disappeared from Pulaski County since the 1970's, outside the Wrightsville area. Some of the ARBIRD postings contain questionable information. Because of their secretive behavior, Swainson's are seldom seen except when they respond to song recordings. Optimal habitat is too thick to walk through and usually too thick to see through. Swainson's migration is largely over in Arkansas by 25 April. Individuals seen after that date are on territory or attempting to establish territories. Undisturbed territorial males sing mostly from the ground. Appearance wise, they are unlikely to be confused with any other species (olive brown above, cream color below, and except for the pale superciliary, unmarked by streaks, stripes, or wing bars). Dale's photo depicts a Philadelphia Vireo, not a Swainson's Warbler. The silhouette alone is enough to rule out Swainson's (Swainson's has a much longer, sharper bill with a nearly straight culmen). The Swainson's song can be confused with that of the Louisiana Waterthrush. In fact, the third cut of "Swainson's Warbler" on the Cornell warbler song CD is actually a Louisiana Waterthrush. Many competent birders confuse the songs of those two species. To complicate matters, Louisiana Waterthrushes often respond to playback of Swainson's songs. Swainson's conduct 99% of their foraging maneuvers on the ground, in dead leaf litter. If you see a warbler foraging in the canopy, it is not a Swainson's Warbler. Swainson's also do not join mixed-species flocks of warblers and vireos (even when flocks pass through breeding territories). Gary Graves Smithsonian Institution ________________________________ From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List on behalf of Dale Provost Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 11:40 PM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Swainson's Warbler In reviewing my photos of May 3, (in Allsopp Park, LR) I found a bird that looked like a Swainson's Warbler, which I sent to Dan Scheiman, who confirmed it. Craig and I have been chasing that bird for the past two weeks, not knowing that we had it after all. We had thought that we had seen it, but were glad to get confirmation. Photo at: http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/image/97125949
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: Evelyn Ford <eafrn(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 11:04am <table cellspacing='0' cellpadding='0' border='0' ><tr><td style='font: inherit;'><P>Sorry about my first post....I clicked "send" too soon. According to the Cornell link below the markings of the Ivory-billed starts below the eye whereas the markings of the Pileated starts right behind the bill. So, it looks like the bird might be a Pileated? Hard to tell from the pic. </P> <P><A href="http://www.birds.cornell.edu/ivory/identifying/step3">http://www.birds.cornell.edu/ivory/identifying/step3</A></P> <P> </P> <P>Evelyn</P> <P>Mountain Home, AR</P> <P> </P> <P><BR><BR>--- On <B>Fri, 5/16/08, Dennis Braddy <I><dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM></I></B> wrote:<BR></P> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid">From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM><BR>Subject: Photo Puzzle<BR>To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU<BR>Date: Friday, May 16, 2008, 9:18 AM<BR><BR> <DIV id=yiv141528838>Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo <A href="http://gallery.mac.com/dmbraddy/100241/Defaced-20Government-20Property/web.jpg" target=_blank rel=nofollow>Defaced Government Property</A>? <DIV><BR> <DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"><SPAN class=Apple-style-span style="WORD-SPACING: 0px; FONT: 14px Helvetica; TEXT-TRANSFORM: none; COLOR: rgb(0,0,0); TEXT-INDENT: 0px; WHITE-SPACE: normal; LETTER-SPACING: normal; BORDER-COLLAPSE: separate; orphans: 2; widows: 2"> <DIV style="WORD-WRAP: break-word"> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV> <DIV>Dennis Braddy</DIV> <DIV>Little Rock, AR</DIV> <DIV><BR class=webkit-block-placeholder></DIV> <DIV><A href="http://www.arkansasbirder.net/" target=_blank rel=nofollow>http://www.arkansasbirder.net</A></DIV><BR> <DIV>"Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking</DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></DIV><BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE></td></tr></table><br>
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: The Lord God Bird From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Ross_Everett?= <reverett(AT)NORTHLITTLEROCK.AR.GOV> Date: 16 May 2008 11:16am I thought some of you might be interested that the IBWO Feature Length Documentary by George Butler and White Mountain Films is screening here in Little Rock at the Riverdale 10 on Cantrell rd. Showtimes are 3:00 p.m. today and 11:00 a.m. on Sunday. This screening is brought to you by the Little Rock Film Festival which is only in it's second year ,so get out and show some support for the Ivory-Billed Woodpecker and our local Film Festival. http://littlerock2008.bside.com/2008/?_view=_filmdetails&filmId=69100863 Ross Everett Ward/North Little Rock
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 11:32am I'm inclined to agree with Jeff, Charles, and Gary regarding the depicted bird not being the Swainson's Warbler. However, there is the issue of the apparently reddish crown which is good for Swainson's (though it seems a bit overdone) and bad for Philadelphia Vireo. Perhaps the most parsimonious explanation is that the color is a particularly unfortunate, species-confusing photographic artifact; otherwise, we are left to explain what a Philadelphia Vireo is doing with a reddish crown. My rhetorical question is, when faced with the task of identifying a bird from a single photo that displays conflicting field marks, as this one does, how do you decide which features are artifact and which are real? Which do you credit and which do you choose to ignore? This should be a cautionary tale for those who insist that photographic evidence is objective proof while what the birder reports seeing is merely anecdotal data. Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: Dottie Boyles <ctboyles(AT)aristotle.net> Date: 16 May 2008 11:38am Looks to me like driving my "prohibited motorized vehicle" might be a bit of a challenge through the swamp. Dottie Boyles Little Rock
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Western Kingbird, Washington Co. From: Abigail Jeneane Darrah <adarrah(AT)UARK.EDU> Date: 16 May 2008 11:39am While doing some field work this morning I found a Western Kingbird outside of Brentwood, on county road 4146. It was on private property and thus not chaseable, but I thought I'd let everybody know that there's one in the area. It was also a good morning for warblers at my site outside West Fork, with Mourning, Black-and-white, Chestnut-sided, Hooded, Kentucky, Tennessee, Yellow-breasted Chat, American Redstart, and Common Yellowthroat. I have also had Ovenbird and Cerulean Warbler there within the past week. Abby Darrah Fayetteville, AR
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Leslie Peacock <leslie_peacock(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 11:54am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- OK, here's my two bits. Forget the picture. If Dan Scheiman says he heard and saw a Swainson's warbler, then he did. I don't believe it makes much sense to say he's based his bird knowledge on a screw-up by Cornell. So perhaps it should be considered that Swainson's are considering nesting in Allsopp. Sounds too good to be true, but I'd go with that over a misidentification by Dan. Leslie Peacock Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> wrote: I'm inclined to agree with Jeff, Charles, and Gary regarding the depicted bird not being the Swainson's Warbler. However, there is the issue of the apparently reddish crown which is good for Swainson's (though it seems a bit overdone) and bad for Philadelphia Vireo. Perhaps the most parsimonious explanation is that the color is a particularly unfortunate, species-confusing photographic artifact; otherwise, we are left to explain what a Philadelphia Vireo is doing with a reddish crown. My rhetorical question is, when faced with the task of identifying a bird from a single photo that displays conflicting field marks, as this one does, how do you decide which features are artifact and which are real? Which do you credit and which do you choose to ignore? This should be a cautionary tale for those who insist that photographic evidence is objective proof while what the birder reports seeing is merely anecdotal data. Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: More on Swainson's From: Hope Coulter <hopecoulter99(AT)COMCAST.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 12:04pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I appreciate the chance to learn and get better, and I really respect = Gary's expertise. I'm by no means that excellent or confident a birder. = One of the birds I thought was a Swainson's in Allsopp on Wednesday had = an unusally (for a warbler) long and pointy bill--several of us = commented on it. It responded to a Swainson's call on the bird pod (if = that was a Swainson's call, now that I know that's an issue!), and I = remember thinking how similar the call was to Louisiana Waterthrush's. = But I didn't even think about that similarity again because it, like the = other two or three birds I thought were Swainson's in different = sightings that morning, had no streaks on the breast, or anywhere. The = birds I saw were in small trees four to six feet off the ground, not = walking around on the ground or on logs on the ground like = waterthrushes. The cap was reddish-brown and the back was dull brown, = in certain light almost cinnamon-y. Later that afternoon in Allsopp, Mel heard a Philadelphia Vireo calling, = much higher in the canopy, and we got looks at it. It was more greenish = with pale yellow on the flanks, rather than cinnamon with cream: = overall palette olive-drab rather than the brown tones of the = low-foraging warbler. But I agree that changing light conditions can be = very tricky. One other thing, for whatever it's worth, and I really don't know which = ID this would support: on Dale's photo you can see a teeny white (or = lightish) mark on the shoulder, almost like a comma or a little hash = mark. I noticed this on two of the birds I saw Wednesday but couldn't = find them in pictures in the field guides. Thanks to you real ornithologists for putting up with those of us still = struggling up the learning curve! Hope Coulter Little Rock ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: "Curry, Neil" <ncurry(AT)AGFC.STATE.AR.US> Date: 16 May 2008 12:12pm Last Swainson's warbler that I observed was at Pinnacle Mountain State Park west of Little Rock, about a mile west of the Arboretum on the LR water works pipeline access. Those present at that sighting in the mid 1980's were Bill Shepherd, Randy Johnson and myself. It did respond to a call. I do have one very poor slide(pre digital)photo that I took of that bird buried somewhere in my files. The habitat was river cane edge and has since been changed by succession in this area. Neil Curry, Little Rock. -----Original Message----- From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List [mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Graves, Gary Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:56 AM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler A number of people have sent in reports of a Swainson's Warbler from Alsopp Park. This is a significant record because they have largely disappeared from Pulaski County since the 1970's, outside the Wrightsville area. Some of the ARBIRD postings contain questionable information. Because of their secretive behavior, Swainson's are seldom seen except when they respond to song recordings. Optimal habitat is too thick to walk through and usually too thick to see through. Swainson's migration is largely over in Arkansas by 25 April. Individuals seen after that date are on territory or attempting to establish territories. Undisturbed territorial males sing mostly from the ground. Appearance wise, they are unlikely to be confused with any other species (olive brown above, cream color below, and except for the pale superciliary, unmarked by streaks, stripes, or wing bars). Dale's photo depicts a Philadelphia Vireo, not a Swainson's Warbler. The silhouette alone is enough to rule out Swainson's (Swainson's has a much longer, sharper bill with a nearly straight culmen). The Swainson's song can be confused with that of the Louisiana Waterthrush. In fact, the third cut of "Swainson's Warbler" on the Cornell warbler song CD is actually a Louisiana Waterthrush. Many competent birders confuse the songs of those two species. To complicate matters, Louisiana Waterthrushes often respond to playback of Swainson's songs. Swainson's conduct 99% of their foraging maneuvers on the ground, in dead leaf litter. If you see a warbler foraging in the canopy, it is not a Swainson's Warbler. Swainson's also do not join mixed-species flocks of warblers and vireos (even when flocks pass through breeding territories). Gary Graves Smithsonian Institution ________________________________ From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List on behalf of Dale Provost Sent: Thu 5/15/2008 11:40 PM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Swainson's Warbler In reviewing my photos of May 3, (in Allsopp Park, LR) I found a bird that looked like a Swainson's Warbler, which I sent to Dan Scheiman, who confirmed it. Craig and I have been chasing that bird for the past two weeks, not knowing that we had it after all. We had thought that we had seen it, but were glad to get confirmation. Photo at: http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/image/97125949
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 12:22pm Leslie, I agree with your sentiment. That's why in my first sentence I referred to "the", rather than "a", Swainson's Warbler. :-) Dennis "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking On May 16, 2008, at 11:54 AM, Leslie Peacock wrote: > OK, here's my two bits. > > Forget the picture. If Dan Scheiman says he heard and saw a > Swainson's warbler, then he did. I don't believe it makes much sense > to say he's based his bird knowledge on a screw-up by Cornell. > > So perhaps it should be considered that Swainson's are considering > nesting in Allsopp. Sounds too good to be true, but I'd go with that > over a misidentification by Dan.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: moved to Alabama Coast From: Fred Robinson <robinsonline(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 12:54pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I am signing off. I now do my birding on the Alabama Gulf Coast having left the OMBS the first of March Living on island time Fred Robinson 24883A Ivy Lane Orange Beach, Alabama 36561 ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Ray?= <cardcards(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 1:11pm Probably a swainsonii philadelphicus. :-) (Just kiddin'!) Holding the Sibley's up to the photo, there are characteristics of both birds. It would sure be easier without the rufous-looking crown. David Ray
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 1:40pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 5/16/2008 11:54:57 A.M. Central Daylight Time, leslie_peacock(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET writes: but I'd go with that over a misidentification by Dan. Leslie Peacock >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Dan mis-IDed a single poor photo not a bird in the field. We are all capable of a mis-ID on a photo. As far as head color there is a spot of sunlight on the crown giving the brown tone. The photo is a Philadelphia but the field ID of a bird by Dan earlier was most likely correct. As far as a Swainson's being seen in the top of a tree, it is possible and happened to myself and two top field birders at Wapanocca NWR on a May Big Day one morning. We watched the bird 40 feet off the ground for quite a few minutes not believing what we were looking at, having to be sure of the ID for the count, then the bird dropped straight down into a low bush in front of us and disappeared into the underbrush. Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler From: Nick Anich <nicka29(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 1:40pm http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/image/97125949 This is not a Swainson's Warbler. The bill is too small and differently shaped, the legs are black and not pink, the legs are not thick enough, and the back is less brown. This is not to say that there never was a Swainson's there, just that this is not it. Gary is correct that generally Swainson's should be on their breeding grounds by now, but with all the flooding in the bottomlands this year, anything could happen. And a number of other species can initially respond with interest to Swainson's playbacks. (I should also note to prospective users of playback that playbacks [esp. during the breeding season] should be used judiciously, but that's another rant entirely.) I can't explain the apparent reddish tinge to the crown, perhaps a photo artifact. This appears to be a vireo. In this posture the bird looks longer than a Philadelphia typically appears, and with the crown constrast, I wonder if it's a Red-eyed. Though the bill looks a bit shorter than an average Red-eyed, it's head is titled a bit, which may explain that. Either way, it's a vireo, not a Swainson's. Nick Anich (now) Durham, NC
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Birds, other Wildlife and Fescue From: Jerry W Davis <jwdavis(AT)FS.FED.US> Date: 16 May 2008 2:51pm You may not sit down with horticultural, wildlife, or toxicology journals for your reading pleasure. For some this will be old information and others may not have a first hand knowledge of the adverse impacts that infected fescue (not to mention infected perennial ryegrass) can have on birds, mammals, invertebrates, livestock, wildlife habitat dynamics and wildlife habitat in general. Those working with the recovery of the northern bobwhite and grassland birds are well aware of the phrase "Don't Do Fescue". They are aware of the impacts that the 40 million acres of fescue, and 15 million acres of Bermuda and Bahia grasses, (that have replaced native warm season grasses) have had and is having on native wildlife. For some it will be enlightening and others will be upset because it is calling their baby ugly. For those that want more insight do a Google search on fescue and endophytes. Take a couple of minutes to read the summary below. Store it away in your crinkled cranium for use and understanding and in helping others to understand. With knowledge and problem recognition comes the responsibility for you to take action to help solve the problem. One unaware is one too many. My apology in advance for cross posting. Delete or network if needed WILDLIFE AND FESCUE INFORMATION YOU NEED TO KNOW Tall fescue was introduced into the United States from Europe in the early 1800’s and the Kentucky 31 variety is a perennial cool-season grass that was developed in 1931 and had widespread released in 1943. Today fescue covers 40 million acres ( 4 million acres in Arkansas) and two other species, common Bermuda and Bahia grass cover another 15 million acres. Many do not know that these grasses are invasive and have replaced native vegetation with habitat that is of little to no value for wildlife. In addition to the structural characteristics of these grasses not being good wildlife habitat, much of the “old” fescue are infected with an internal fungus (endophyte – endo = inside + phyte = plant) which improves the survival of the plants and discourages herbivore consumption. Fescue produces chemicals making it toxic and alkaloids are found throughout the plant, but are especially concentrated in the seeds and leaves. Although this fungus and alkaloids are good for the fescue and protects the grass from insects, nematodes and discourages grazing herbivores, it has adverse impacts on livestock, wildlife, and insects. At least 41 species of insects are affected by the presence of endophytes in grasses and the list will grow with additional investigation. The fescue endophyte leads to “fescue toxicosis” in grazing animals including, insects, birds, and mammals such rabbits and livestock and a low palatability to ungulates like deer, and elk. This toxicity leads to reduced palatability, poor weight gain and reproduction, elevated body temperatures and respiration rates, defecation wallows, decreases forage and feed intake, decreases in growth and milk production, causes the pregnancy rates to drop, weaning weights to drop, retention of winter coats, it creates prolonged gestation in brood mares, foaling difficulty, thickened placenta, and foals may be born weak or dead and mares may die in foaling. Fescue foot tends to develop in late fall and winter and the extremities – tail, ears, and rear feet undergo necrosis (death) which some know as “dry gangrene”. Infected fescue cost beef producers over $1 Billion per year in lost production and income. Indirectly, fescue has indirect effects on vertebrate and invertebrate species composition and the food chain. Scientific studies in birds show that captive zebra finches fed infected tall fescue seeds had increased body temperatures and at higher ambient temperatures, it caused an increase in bird mortality. Japanese quail fed infected tall fescue seeds had a 10% reduction in productivity. Recent research on bluebirds eating insects that fed on infected fescue produces eggs with lower egg volume. The implications of lower egg volume are obvious. Even research on seed harvesting ants in Arizona showed that ants harvested less fescue infected seeds than they did non-infected seeds. With today’s designer genetics, researchers are designing grass and fungus combinations that repel insects to make lawns insect free and give grass eating birds (such as Canada geese), an illness researchers call “post-ingestion malaise” which makes the birds sick so they will not want to return to an area. Forty years of Breeding Bird Survey data indicate a decline in all but three grassland birds. All other grassland related bird species including the Northern bobwhite are declining. The causes of these declines may be complex. However, one would be remiss and myopic not to think that the conversion of 55 million acres of native grasslands with grass species of little value for wildlife would contribute to these declines and will continue to do so. Living organisms are made up of the same or similar molecular structure and it can safely assumed that the impacts from infected fescue and the loss of habitat would also impact others species whether they have specific research or not. With this in mind, persons interested in birds and other wildlife need to ponder some of these implications. The declining populations of grassland birds could be reversed if many of these 55 million acres are converted back into native warm season grasses. Some beef producers are not aware of the negative impacts of fescue and the toxicity of endophytes, and others are willing to live with the loss of one billion dollars per year in production. Even facing this reality, there are millions of acres of fescue, Bermuda, and Bahia grass pastures that are not stocked with livestock and will never be used for beef production. For those wanting to replace fescue, States have programs to help landowners eliminate fescue and replace it with native warm season grasses that are not toxic to wildlife and provide wildlife habitat. Habitat loss is a critical impact, but infected fescue pastures make livestock and wildlife, including birds, sensitive to heat and contribute to lost production and reproduction. Signs of this may be observed with livestock suffering from elevated temperatures using ponds and streams trying to reduce body temperatures. With the increase of ambient temperatures, further declines in populations, production, reproduction, survival and nesting success are to be expected. In addition to pastures and roadsides, millions of acres of lawns contain fescue infected with endophytes. These infected lawns produce fewer insects and can support toxic seeds. Some homeowners want lawns supporting bird habitat, but are not aware of the fescue problem. When they purchase fescue grass seeds there are no warning labels that say it is not good for wildlife. Before the problems of lost wildlife habitat, declining birds, toxicity to livestock and wildlife, and reduced production, reproduction and heat tolerance are to be solved, persons must realize that a problem exists. Many of us could be compared to a person diving off Hermits Roost into the Grand Canyon and the Colorado River a mile below. Every 50 feet the words can be heard - "everything is still OK, everything is still OK," everything is still OK. It is that sudden realization and impact at the bottom that will get our attention and then it is too late. As biologists and some beef producers would say, “Don’t Do Fescue”. If you did do fescue, for the sake of habitat, wildlife, and bird recovery, you should make a commitment to correct the problem. Contact your local State lands biologist. Jerry W. Davis Forest Wildlife Program Manager Ouachita National Forest May 8, 2006 Jerry W. Davis Forest Wildlife Program Manager Ouachita National Forest PO Box 1270 Hot Springs, AR 71902-1270 501-321-5201 Voice
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Photo Puzzle From: "FENNELL, Ellen" <EFENNELL(AT)AUDUBON.ORG> Date: 16 May 2008 3:32pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- It appears to have the white feathers on the lower half of the wings of the= Ivory-bill but no white markings extending down the back. Ellen M. Fennell Director of Development Audubon Arkansas 201 East Markham Street, Suite 450 Little Rock, AR 72201 Tel: 501.244.2229 Fax: 501.244.2231 www.ar.audubon.org<http://www.ar.audubon.org> DONATE ONLINE to protect the Little River Bottoms https://loon.audubon.org/payment/donate/ARLRBDF.html When one tugs at a single thing in nature; he finds it attached to the rest= of the world. -- John Muir -----Original Message----- From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List [mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.= EDU] On Behalf Of Dennis Braddy Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 9:18 AM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Photo Puzzle Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property<htt= p://gallery.mac.com/dmbraddy/100241/Defaced-20Government-20Property/web.jpg= >? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawki= ng ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Swainson's From: "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> Date: 16 May 2008 3:39pm I do not doubt that Dan found a real Swainson's at Alsopp. This is a significant location that bears watching in the future. I look forward to taking a good look at the habitat the next time I'm in Little Rock. I would appreciate being told of any other Swainson's discovered this spring in the Arkansas River drainage upstream from Bayou Meto (email: gravesg(AT)si.edu). Does anybody know of a Swainson's locale in Jefferson County? Sandy Berger has already sent coordinates (Google Earth) of the birds found near Ft. Smith in April. I see lots of Swainson's perched high in trees and even occasionally on electric wires...but always in response to playback during my population surveys. Males quickly return to the forest floor as soon as the perceived threat is gone. A word of caution about playback. Males quickly habituate to chronic playback and after a couple of weeks of harassment, they won't respond normally (instead, they circle the playback at a distance but mostly out of sight). A bigger challenge, and one that I recommend, is seeing a Swainson's without the aid of playback. Relatively few birders (nationwide) have accomplished this feat. Gary Graves Smithsonian Institution
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Photo Puzzle From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 4:09pm --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Can you figure out what's wrong in my photo Defaced Government Property? Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Boundary_(ID_C7/rXN3O1kw9b7NQA0eciA)--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 4:19pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 5/16/2008 3:39:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU writes: I see lots of Swainson's perched high in trees and even occasionally on electric wires...but always in response to playback during my population surveys. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original statement was made "If you see a warbler foraging in the canopy, it is not a Swainson's Warbler." In the instance I posted about, the Swainson's was discovered in the top of the willow trees actually foraging on a insect hatch. We also have never used playbacks when doing any Big Days. Birds just can and will show up doing the unexpected at anytime, especially if you spend enough time in the field. It is best when it comes to birds to Never say Never and be careful using an unqualified Always ;o) Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Mourning Warbler, Philadelphia Vireo, Bell Trail Map From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 5:14pm --Boundary_(ID_kNUR4Ra+tH6gbGeis0nfyA) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT There are a bunch of new photos in the Arkansas Birder Gallery New Guest Photos album. Ron Howard sent several excellent photos including Mourning Warbler (the very one that Pat saw at Craighead Forest Park yesterday morning) and Philadelphia Vireo. Michael Budd contributed some really fine rail photos. Pat stopped by Bell Slough today and took a photo of the trail map on the trailhead sign. Kelly Chitwood, Sally Jo Gibson, Dale Provost, Joe Neal, Aaron Gwin, David Oakley, Lynn Nowell, Jeff Meek, Cyndi Emerson, and Dick Baxter have also contributed photos to Arkansas Birder recently. Dennis and Patricia Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking --Boundary_(ID_kNUR4Ra+tH6gbGeis0nfyA) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Boundary_(ID_kNUR4Ra+tH6gbGeis0nfyA)--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: odd goose and RB Grosbeak From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Donna_Haynes?= <birdiehaynes(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 6:01pm At lunch today I dropped some breadcrumbs for the geese at Cooks Landing. A whole bunch crowded around me, but this one looked quite different than the other Canada Geese there. His head had a lit of white on it. I was thinking a hybrid. What do you guys think? (these geese are wild geese, right?) http://s244.photobucket.com/albums/gg9/birdiehaynes/birds/? action=view¤t=attachment.jpg Also, my mom, who was babysitting my son at my house today called and reported a male Rose-Breasted Grosbeak that visited several times today. Donna Haynes West Pulaski Co.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU> Date: 16 May 2008 6:58pm Jeff: You should document your unusual foraging observation of Swainson's Warbler for a peer-reviewed journal. Researchers (including some World-class birders) have logged nearly ten thousand hours studying Swainson's in 14 states and Jamaica over the past quarter century and nobody has reported them feeding on insect hatches in the upper canopy (although I have observed males pick caterpillars from a branch while they were searching for taped playback of song). Needless to say, you should obtain some good video if you ever observe this behavior again. Two recent papers that addressed foraging behavior: Graves, G. R. 1998. Stereotyped foraging behavior of the Swainson's Warbler. Journal of Field Ornithology 69:121-127 Strong, A. M. 2000. Divergent foraging strategies of two neotropical migrant warblers: implications for winter habitat use. Auk 117:381-392 GRG Smithsonian ________________________________ From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List on behalf of Jeff R. Wilson Sent: Fri 5/16/2008 5:19 PM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: Re: Swainson's In a message dated 5/16/2008 3:39:49 P.M. Central Daylight Time, GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU writes: I see lots of Swainson's perched high in trees and even occasionally on electric wires...but always in response to playback during my population surveys. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The original statement was made "If you see a warbler foraging in the canopy, it is not a Swainson's Warbler." In the instance I posted about, the Swainson's was discovered in the top of the willow trees actually foraging on a insect hatch. We also have never used playbacks when doing any Big Days. Birds just can and will show up doing the unexpected at anytime, especially if you spend enough time in the field. It is best when it comes to birds to Never say Never and be careful using an unqualified Always ;o) Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. ________________________________ Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001> .
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 May 2008 7:41pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 5/16/2008 6:58:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, GRAVESG(AT)si.edu writes: (including some World-class birders) have logged nearly ten thousand hours studying Swainson's in 14 states and Jamaica over the past quarter century and nobody has reported them feeding on insect hatches in the upper canopy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> All I can say is, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, I've seen it once and don't expect to see it again but I'll keep looking. Sorry, but I'm not a world class birder and hope never to claim to be but making a first time observation of any kind does not require one to be such, but being there at the right time helps. I've put myself in many places often enough to get lucky quite a few times, missing only a total of 15 weekend days out birding in over 21+ years and birding every chance in between. That totals somewhat over 30,000 hours actively birding in the field and getting lucky enough to find and document over 30 first state records here in the mid-south. A long time ago, when I first got into birding, I got tired of hearing "we don't get them here" or "they don't do that" or "you don't find them there" I believe birds are capable of just about anything, at anytime, anywhere......... Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: odd goose and RB Grosbeak From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Ray?= <cardcards(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 8:28pm I see this goose every time I'm riding @ the dam. It's "honk" is different than the Canada's & it seems that the Canada's do not like to hang around with it. They seem to tolerate it. It seems to be the classic "you're different from us, so you don't belong!" issue, so often a human response. David Ray
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: Dale Provost <dprovost(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 9:34pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I appreciate everyone's comments. The knowledge here is so much more = than we find in books. I do have another photo of the same bird, from = below, and have posted it with the first at: = http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/warbler Dale Provost West Little Rock ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Jeff R. Wilson=20 To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU=20 Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Swainson's In a message dated 5/16/2008 6:58:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, = GRAVESG(AT)si.edu writes: (including some World-class birders) have logged nearly ten thousand = hours studying Swainson's in 14 states and Jamaica over the past quarter = century and nobody has reported them feeding on insect hatches in the = upper canopy = >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >>>> All I can say is, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, I've = seen it once and don't expect to see it again but I'll keep looking. = Sorry, but I'm not a world class birder and hope never to claim to be = but making a first time observation of any kind does not require one to = be such, but being there at the right time helps.=20 I've put myself in many places often enough to get lucky quite a few = times, missing only a total of 15 weekend days out birding in over 21+ = years and birding every chance in between. That totals somewhat over = 30,000 hours actively birding in the field and getting lucky enough to = find and document over 30 first state records here in the mid-south. A = long time ago, when I first got into birding, I got tired of hearing "we = don't get them here" or "they don't do that" or "you don't find them = there" I believe birds are capable of just about anything, at anytime, = anywhere......... Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family = favorites at AOL Food. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Allsopp Saturday morning? From: Jim Dixon <jamesdixonlr(AT)ATT.NET> Date: 16 May 2008 9:48pm Anybody going to Allsopp Park Saturday morning? I'm trying to decide between there and Bell Slough. -- Jim Dixon Little Rock, AR www.jamesdixon.us

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