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Subject: Swainson's Warbler
From: "Graves, Gary" <GRAVESG(AT)SI.EDU>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:16am
My original statement stands---if you see a warbler foraging high in the canopy,
it will not be a Swainson's. Dinner is on me to anyone that can prove
otherwise. 30,000 hours of general birding (which equals about 14 standard
work-years by my calculation) is quite an impressive claim. However, I'm not
sure what relevance that has to Swainson's Warbler foraging behavior. Even the
most dogged birders are lucky to "see" more than a couple of Swainson's each
year (and usually just long enough to check off the Big Day list or year list,
etc.). Swainson's Warbler researchers observe more foraging maneuvers, singing
behavior, etc. in a week of field work than unfocused week-end birders observe
in a lifetime. That is not to say that birders don't occasionally observe avian
behaviors that are noteworthy or previously unknown---it probably happens quite
frequently given the huge number of birders. Unfortunately, many birders don't
know what is unusual and don't know how to document unusual phenomena in a way
that adds to the corpus of scientific knowledge. And that is a great shame,
because ornithology is one of relatively few scientific disciplines where
amateurs can make substantive contributions. A good interface between the
amateur birder and scientific ornithology is the state ornithological journal.
Most of Arkansas' neighbors (Oklahoma, Missouri, Texas, Tennessee, Kentucky,
Louisiana, Kansas) have peer-reviewed state ornithological journals, sponsored
and published by state ornithological societies. Several of these journals have
been published more than 40 consecutive years (e.g., Bulletin of the Oklahoma
Ornithological Society). Unfortunately, Arkansas has no comparable publication
outlet for the many exciting discoveries that have accumulated over the past
decade (e.g., new state records; breeding range extensions; noteworthy
invasions). As a consequence, noteworthy ornithological records and
observations in Arkansas are given short shrift in the scientific literature
because there are few other publication outlets for local and regional reports
(quarterly records published in North American Birds are not considered to be
peer-reviewed). In sum, Arkansas' ornithological profile is far less than what
it should be.
Gary Graves
Smithsonian Institution
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List on behalf of Jeff R. Wilson
Sent: Fri 5/16/2008 8:41 PM
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: Re: Swainson's
In a message dated 5/16/2008 6:58:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, GRAVESG(AT)si.edu
writes:
(including some World-class birders) have logged nearly ten thousand hours
studying Swainson's in 14 states and Jamaica over the past quarter century and
nobody has reported them feeding on insect hatches in the upper canopy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
All I can say is, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, I've seen it
once and don't expect to see it again but I'll keep looking. Sorry, but I'm not
a world class birder and hope never to claim to be but making a first time
observation of any kind does not require one to be such, but being there at the
right time helps.
I've put myself in many places often enough to get lucky quite a few times,
missing only a total of 15 weekend days out birding in over 21+ years and
birding every chance in between. That totals somewhat over 30,000 hours actively
birding in the field and getting lucky enough to find and document over 30
first state records here in the mid-south. A long time ago, when I first got
into birding, I got tired of hearing "we don't get them here" or "they don't do
that" or "you don't find them there" I believe birds are capable of just about
anything, at anytime, anywhere.........
Good Birding !!!
Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA
6300 Memphis-Arlington Road
Bartlett, TN 38135
http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/
What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens.
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Subject: About "Troubling Nature etc.."
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:35am
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I've had computer trouble and missed the beginning of this.. However, now
I'm reading all the good comments.. I'm driven to my usual wordy-birdy-nerdy
observations: First, growing up on a farm helped me accept a lot of things
my friends find appalling..( The current Arkansas legislation being
considered about cruelty to animals is closely related to this "nature
behavior"
understanding..I understand the Farm Bureau's concern. ) Second, taking Dr.
Doug James' animal behavior class at the U of A, was really revealing; I've
seen the behavior of animals entirely differently since I took that. Many of
us know Doug as one of our founders of AAS and he's been invaluable to
ornithology in Arkansas. Thanks, Doug.
JoAnne Rife in the Arkansas Ozarks
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Subject: Re: Chesney Prairie, belated note..
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:55am
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I have been without e-mail a few days..So this is belated.. YES, our Martha
Milburn did make that judgment in a few seconds and while on a field trip
with DOBC birding bunch. Her friends in AAS will want to know she has had a
short hospital stay and is now back in Harrison from Springfield MO. Here is
her address for a little while: Golden Living Center - Hilltop, 202 Tims
Avenue, Harrison AR 72601
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Subject: Martha M.
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:58am
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Oops! I hadn't read Sally Jo's notice yet..sorry!! JoAnne Rife
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Subject: Re: AAS Field List Question
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 2:22pm
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I have a friend, a well educated, knowledgable man, who tells me he has had
three of four rose-breasted grosbeaks in his within-the-city-limits yard for
quite a few days.. I have heard of a lot of them but not of any that stayed
around?? JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks..(Boone County)
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Subject: Question?
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 2:25pm
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Any up-date on the Arkansas Breeding Bird Atlas?? I haven't been to any
meeting lately and just wondered?? JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks
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Subject: Tick-a-tie revisited
From: Jim Dixon <jamesdixonlr(AT)ATT.NET>
Date: 17 May 2008 2:25pm
Several of you suggested Summer Tanager but I listed to two recordings,
one from the Patuxent website and one from the All About Birds website
and neither sounded like what I heard. However, today at Craighead
Forest Park, I saw and heard Summer Tanagers and one of them did
"tick-a" with the same voice. So, you three were correct.
thanks
--
Jim Dixon
Little Rock, AR
www.jamesdixon.us
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Subject: Re: Arbirds website
From: JoAnne Rife <RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 2:29pm
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Stochastic process sounds to me like it would have somethng to do with the
math called chaos theory?? Multiple variables acting together in a short
time, shorter than human observation can be made?? But possibly now more
believable because computers can do math faster???JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks..
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Subject: FW: eBird Report - Chalk Bluff Natural Area , 5/17/08
From: Bill Shepherd <stoneax63(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 5:43pm
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Arbirders:
=20
Below is a list of what I observed in three hours this morning in Chalk Blu=
ff Natural Area, Clay County. Though I'd have to admit that birding was fa=
irly slow today, I'm convinced the place has a strong potential--especially=
at this time of year. You can't get any farther northeast in the woods an=
d still be in Arkansas.
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transient species bolded
=20
Bill ShepherdBill Shepherd2805 Linden, Apt. 3 Little Rock, Arkansas 72205-5=
964 Stoneax63(AT)hotmail.com (501) 375-3918> Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:33:35 -=
0400> From: do-not-reply(AT)ebird.org> To: Stoneax63(AT)Hotmail.com> Subject: eBi=
rd Report - Chalk Bluff Natural Area , 5/17/08> > > > Location: Chalk Bluff=
Natural Area> Observation date: 5/17/08> Number of species: 23> > Green He=
ron 1> Mourning Dove 1> Ruby-throated Hummingbird 2 one or both gathering c=
obwebs> Red-bellied Woodpecker 3> Pileated Woodpecker 1> Eastern Wood-Pewee=
5 one at a nest> Acadian Flycatcher 2> Great Crested Flycatcher 3> Blue Ja=
y 3> Carolina Chickadee 1> Tufted Titmouse 1> Carolina Wren 3> Eastern Blue=
bird 1> Catharus sp. 3> Wood Thrush 1> Northern Parula 1> Chestnut-sided Wa=
rbler 2> Blackpoll Warbler 2> Ovenbird 1> Kentucky Warbler 1> Northern Card=
inal 1> Indigo Bunting 4> Brown-headed Cowbird 1> > This report was generat=
ed automatically by eBird v2(http://ebird.org)=
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Subject: AAS Field List Question
From: Mary Alice Beer <abeer(AT)ARTELCO.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 6:02pm
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I guess the buzzwords here are "stayed around" --how long a period.
Late April and the first couple of weeks into May are always a special
time for me for that's when I expect the Rose-breasteds and they DO =
linger.
In '07, the first one arrived on 4-21 after which I had increasing =
numbers.
There were 19 on 5-4 after which they dwindled down to the last one on =
5-16.=20
This year - '08, the first one arrived on 4-24 and by 4-29 had 13. The =
highest
numbers - 18- were tallied on 5-1. Only had 4 today 5-17.
They do seem to exceed the 4D to 5B period listed in the AR Checklist.
Actually while I eagerly await their arrival each year, I think just =
hearing them all
around me in the woods is almost as fine as seeing them. Whoever said =
"they sound
like a robin that's graduated with high honors from music school" =
certainly had it
right on the nose...
Mary Alice Beer
Fairfield Bay
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From: JoAnne Rife=20
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU=20
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ARBIRD-L] AAS Field List Question
I have a friend, a well educated, knowledgable man, who tells me he has =
had three of four rose-breasted grosbeaks in his within-the-city-limits =
yard for quite a few days.. I have heard of a lot of them but not of any =
that stayed around?? JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks..(Boone County)
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Subject: Re: AAS Field List Question
From: "J. O. and Sally Jo Gibson" <sjogibson(AT)ALLTEL.NET>
Date: 17 May 2008 6:20pm
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We still have Rose-Breasted Grosbeaks at our feeder here in Harrison, Boone
Co. I keep daily records of what I see in our yard (missing a few days or
weeks at a time). The grosbeaks been here since April 28. There aren't as
many as there were at first, but we still have both male and females. We
have lots of feeders up with a variety of bird seed, peanuts, suet (Bo
Verser's), etc. We've had an unusual number of both male & Female Indigo
Buntings, also. Haven't seen the Lincoln's Sparrow in a few days.
Sally Jo Gibson
Harrison, AR
From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List
[mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Mary Alice Beer
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 6:03 PM
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Subject: [ARBIRD-L] AAS Field List Question
I guess the buzzwords here are "stayed around" --how long a period.
Late April and the first couple of weeks into May are always a special
time for me for that's when I expect the Rose-breasteds and they DO linger.
In '07, the first one arrived on 4-21 after which I had increasing numbers.
There were 19 on 5-4 after which they dwindled down to the last one on 5-16.
This year - '08, the first one arrived on 4-24 and by 4-29 had 13. The
highest
numbers - 18- were tallied on 5-1. Only had 4 today 5-17.
They do seem to exceed the 4D to 5B period listed in the AR Checklist.
Actually while I eagerly await their arrival each year, I think just hearing
them all
around me in the woods is almost as fine as seeing them. Whoever said "they
sound
like a robin that's graduated with high honors from music school" certainly
had it
right on the nose...
Mary Alice Beer
Fairfield Bay
----- Original Message -----
From: JoAnne Rife <mailto:RifeJA(AT)AOL.COM>
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ARBIRD-L] AAS Field List Question
I have a friend, a well educated, knowledgable man, who tells me he has had
three of four rose-breasted grosbeaks in his within-the-city-limits yard for
quite a few days.. I have heard of a lot of them but not of any that stayed
around?? JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks..(Boone County)
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Subject: Fwd: AAS Field List Question
From: Jacque Brown <bluebird2(AT)COX.NET>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:45pm
MY RB Grosbeaks seem to have been replaced by House Finches today.
--
Jacque Brown
Bella Vista,
Benton, Co AR,
bluebird2(AT)cox.net
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 18:03:26 -0500
From: Mary Alice Beer <abeer(AT)ARTELCO.COM>
Subject: AAS Field List Question
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
I guess the buzzwords here are "stayed around" --how long a period.
Late April and the first couple of weeks into May are always a special
time for me for that's when I expect the Rose-breasteds and they DO linger.
In '07, the first one arrived on 4-21 after which I had increasing numbers.
There were 19 on 5-4 after which they dwindled down to the last one on 5-16.
This year - '08, the first one arrived on 4-24 and by 4-29 had 13. The highest
numbers - 18- were tallied on 5-1. Only had 4 today 5-17.
They do seem to exceed the 4D to 5B period listed in the AR Checklist.
Actually while I eagerly await their arrival each year, I think just hearing
them all
around me in the woods is almost as fine as seeing them. Whoever said "they
sound
like a robin that's graduated with high honors from music school" certainly had
it
right on the nose...
Mary Alice Beer
Fairfield Bay
----- Original Message -----
From: JoAnne Rife
To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU
Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2008 2:22 PM
Subject: Re: [ARBIRD-L] AAS Field List Question
I have a friend, a well educated, knowledgable man, who tells me he has had
three of four rose-breasted grosbeaks in his within-the-city-limits yard for
quite a few days.. I have heard of a lot of them but not of any that stayed
around?? JoAnne Rife in the Ozarks..(Boone County)
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Subject: Buffalo Road Mourning Warbler
From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 9:47pm
Today I followed up on recent reports of Red Crossbill in the Red-
cockaded Woodpecker habitat along Buffalo Road in Scott county. I
dipped on Red Crossbill and Red-cockaded Woodpecker. Below is the
complete list of 33 species that I identified within a 0.6 mile radius
of a point 3.8 miles from AR-71 on Buffalo Road. The best bird may be
Mourning Warbler. There are no records in the AAS database for Scott
county. I'm checking to see if it is a county bird.
Red Crossbills have been reported at two locations in the past month.
The first spot is 3.2-3.3 miles from AR-71 on Buffalo Road. When you
get to the cement culvert, back up about 100 feet and walk up the
trail with RCW markings on the trees. (Just past the culvert is where
I saw the Mourning Warbler.) The next location is 4.0-4.1 miles from
AR-71. Look for 2 interpretive signs off the right side of the road.
Again, hike up the trail past RCW trees until you get to #4. Don't
stand under #3. It looks like it could fall the rest of the way down
any minute.
Blue Grosbeak
Blue-gray Gnatcatcher
Baltimore Oriole
Brown-headed Nuthatch
Mourning Warbler
American Crow
Fish Crow
Turkey Vulture
Black Vulture
Prairie Warbler
Common Yellowthroat
Pine Warbler
Summer Tanager
Red-bellied Woodpecker
Northern Flicker
Red-headed Woodpecker
Chipping Sparrow
Eastern Wood-Pewee
Kentucky Warbler
Indigo Bunting
Carolina Wren
Carolina Chickadee
Red-tailed Hawk
Wilson's Warbler
Great Crested Flycatcher
Yellow-breasted Chat
Pileated Woodpecker
White-eyed Vireo
Red-eyed Vireo
Blue Jay
Tufted Titmouse
White-breasted Nuthatch
Northern Cardinal
Dennis Braddy
Little Rock, AR
http://www.arkansasbirder.net
"Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen
Hawking
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Subject: Yellow Orchard Oriole?
From: Jim Dixon <jamesdixonlr(AT)ATT.NET>
Date: 17 May 2008 10:16pm
Friday morning at Two Rivers Park, I saw a bird that looked exactly like an
adult breeding male Orchard Oriole except there was yellow where there should
have been burnt orange. Would this be a transitional stage from juvenile to
adult? I thought it had to be at the time but none of my field guides show it
or the Baltimore looking like this. I managed to get his song in the background
on my digital recorder. It is not incredibly good quality but is discernible.
thanks
--
Jim Dixon
Little Rock, AR
www.jamesdixon.us
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Subject: Re: Swainson's Warbler
From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 17 May 2008 11:30pm
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In a message dated 5/17/2008 9:16:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
GRAVESG(AT)si.edu writes:
My original statement stands---if you see a warbler foraging high in the
canopy, it will not be a Swainson's. Dinner is on me to anyone that can prove
otherwise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>
OK everybody, I'll make this a Mexican standoff, I'll buy dinner if anyone
can prove it can't, or more to the point, didn't happen.
Also, I added 13.5 hours in the field today to my 30,000 + hour total and
more to come tomorrow in AR ;o)
Good Birding !!!
Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA
6300 Memphis-Arlington Road
Bartlett, TN 38135
http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/
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