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ARBIRD-L for Monday, May 19, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 Black-bellied Whistling-Duck  Charles Mills   6:33am 
 Rick Evans Grandview Prairie  Kelly Chitwood   8:12am 
 AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts  Leif E Anderson   9:32am 
 Re: Black-bellied Whistling-Duck  Dennis Braddy   10:56am 
 Re: Swainson's  Steven W. Cardiff  11:00am 
 Centerton FH.  Jacque Brown   11:04am 
 Re: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts  J. O. and Sally Jo G  2:22pm 
 Re: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts  Mary Alice Beer   5:28pm 
 Re: Swainson's  Jeff R. Wilson  6:23pm 
 Bell Slough Trail Map  Dennis Braddy   10:46pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Black-bellied Whistling-Duck From: Charles Mills <swamp_fox(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 6:33am As I was raising the flag at the post office moments ago, a pair of Black-bellied Whistling-Ducks flew by less than 75 feet overhead. Hope I can take that as a sign that work won't be such a major pain today. Charles Mills Ogden AR 71853 Sent from my iPhone
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Rick Evans Grandview Prairie From: Kelly Chitwood <kchitwood(AT)CABLELYNX.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 8:12am I visited the prairie this weekend. The wildflowers were simply wonderful. I practically had the entire place to myself. My target was Bobolinks, but struck out. Found 40 species of birds. Most noteworthy would be Grasshopper Sparrow. Cheers, Kelly Chitwood Camden, AR
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts From: Leif E Anderson <leanderson(AT)FS.FED.US> Date: 19 May 2008 9:32am Greetings all, I too never tire of looking at Rose-breasteds. I bird all over the country and have found our checklist to be the most thorough of all. In this case the 4D-5B refers to the period when Rose-breasted Grosbeaks usually occur. The "+" sign indicates that there have been sightings outside that range. I had a pair stay into early June one year. I searched real hard for a nest but never found one. I would predict that they will be the next species to start nesting in the state in big numbers (now that Cave Swallows have finally shown up at Lake Millwood). Why?: 1) We have lots of the same habitat that they nest in, further north. 2) They nest within 100 or so miles of the state. So check around real carefully if you've got males and females on into late May/ June. It be so cool to be the one that finds a nest and gets an " * ", put next to the species name on the checklist! Cheers, Leif @ Hector
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Black-bellied Whistling-Duck From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 10:56am I guess things will be just ducky. :-) Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking On May 19, 2008, at 6:33 AM, Charles Mills wrote: > As I was raising the flag at the post office moments ago, a pair of > Black-bellied Whistling-Ducks flew by less than 75 feet overhead. > Hope I can take that as a sign that work won't be such a major pain > today. > > Charles Mills > Ogden AR 71853 > > Sent from my iPhone
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: "Steven W. Cardiff" <scardif(AT)LSU.EDU> Date: 19 May 2008 11:00am > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Arbirders- Specifically referring to Dale=B9s photos, they are definitely both vireos. Like others, I was tempted to endorse the first photo as a Philadelphia but couldn=B9t rule out Red-eyed. The second photo, if indeed o= f the same individual, seems more suggestive of Red-eyed. Steve Cardiff On 5/16/08 9:33 PM, "Dale Provost" <dprovost(AT)SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > I appreciate everyone's comments. The knowledge here is so much more tha= n we > find in books. I do have another photo of the same bird, from below, and= have > posted it with the first at: http://www.pbase.com/daleprovost/warbler > =20 > Dale Provost > West Little Rock >> =20 >> ----- Original Message ----- >> =20 >> From: Jeff R. Wilson <mailto:OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> >> =20 >> To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU >> =20 >> Sent: Friday, May 16, 2008 7:41 PM >> =20 >> Subject: Re: Swainson's >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> In a message dated 5/16/2008 6:58:28 P.M. Central Daylight Time, >> GRAVESG(AT)si.edu writes: >> =20 >>> (including some World-class birders) have logged nearly ten thousand h= ours >>> studying Swainson's in 14 states and Jamaica over the past quarter cen= tury >>> and nobody has reported them feeding on insect hatches in the upper ca= nopy >> =20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>=20 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>= >> >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> All I can say is, they were in the wrong place at the wrong time, I've = seen >> it once and don't expect to see it again but I'll keep looking. Sorry, = but >> I'm not a world class birder and hope never to claim to be but making a >> first time observation of any kind does not require one to be such, but >> being there at the right time helps. >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> I've put myself in many places often enough to get lucky quite a few ti= mes, >> missing only a total of 15 weekend days out birding in over 21+ years a= nd >> birding every chance in between. That totals somewhat over 30,000 hours >> actively birding in the field and getting lucky enough to find and docu= ment >> over 30 first state records here in the mid-south. A long time ago, whe= n I >> first got into birding, I got tired of hearing "we don't get them here"= or >> "they don't do that" or "you don't find them there" I believe birds are >> capable of just about anything, at anytime, anywhere......... >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> Good Birding !!! >>=20 >> Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA >> 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road >> Bartlett, TN 38135 >> http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ >> What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >> =20 >>=20 >> Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites= at >> AOL Food <http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=3Daolfod00030000000001> = . >>=20 ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Centerton FH. From: Jacque Brown <bluebird2(AT)COX.NET> Date: 19 May 2008 11:04am Hi All, Sunday David Oakley, Mile Mlodinow and I went to Centerton Fish Hatchery in the Morning looking for shorebirds. There were Several drained ponds and the Lake on the farthest West side was also drained. There were a lot of shorebirds. I don't have the numbers but Mike Counted we went back and forth a few times between two ponds to try to be accurate. We then left to go to the Beaver Lake Van Winkle area . A lot of birds were heard and some even made short appearances. I added Worm Eating Warbler ,Kentucky Warbler and The Acadian Flycatcher to my Life list with photos, and I was able to update my Hooded Oriole photo from 1995. David had plans so Mike and I retured to the Fish Hatchery in the afternoon. I wanted to try for a better photo of the Black Terns we had seen in the morning. The numbers had increased from 3 to 10. I was able to get great photos, there were also Dunlin on the return trip that weren't seen in the morning. There were quite a few numbers of those. Both lifers for me and great pics too. Also were Semi Plovers and Semi Sandpipers, Stilt sandpipers, White Rumped Sandpipers, Spotted sandpipers, Pectoral Sandpipers, one or two Least Sandpipers, Wilson's Phalarope, Yellowlegs, and Killdeer and Baby Killdeer. I'm sure i am missing something. There were Scads of Canada Geese, One Pied Billed Grebe and a few Blue Winged teal. Some Barn Swallows, and the usual host of blackbirds. Since the Numbers had been increasing over two days the Dunlin and Black Terns may still be there. On Saturday while counting Birds at the drainied farthest west Lake the birds were flushed by a Perigrine Falcon. I was able to get a nice photo or two of that . I wish I hade the font bar on my toolbar to bold the unusual birds but I don't so I apologise to those of you who requested that a while back. Good Birding, Jacque Brown. -- Jacque Brown Bella Vista, Benton, Co AR, bluebird2(AT)cox.net
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts From: "J. O. and Sally Jo Gibson" <sjogibson(AT)ALLTEL.NET> Date: 19 May 2008 2:22pm We have 3 females and one male Rose-breasted Grosbeaks on the feeders at noon today, May 19. Sally Jo Gibson Harrison -----Original Message----- From: The Birds of Arkansas Discussion List [mailto:ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU] On Behalf Of Leif E Anderson Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:57 AM To: ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU Subject: [ARBIRD-L] AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts Greetings all, I too never tire of looking at Rose-breasteds. I bird all over the country and have found our checklist to be the most thorough of all. In this case the 4D-5B refers to the period when Rose-breasted Grosbeaks usually occur. The "+" sign indicates that there have been sightings outside that range. I had a pair stay into early June one year. I searched real hard for a nest but never found one. I would predict that they will be the next species to start nesting in the state in big numbers (now that Cave Swallows have finally shown up at Lake Millwood). Why?: 1) We have lots of the same habitat that they nest in, further north. 2) They nest within 100 or so miles of the state. So check around real carefully if you've got males and females on into late May/ June. It be so cool to be the one that finds a nest and gets an " * ", put next to the species name on the checklist! Cheers, Leif @ Hector
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts From: Mary Alice Beer <abeer(AT)ARTELCO.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 5:28pm Thank you Leif. I do agree our checklist is super - in fact, I keep a small stack on hand to give to visiting birders. Out of state birders always comment on the tremendous amount of data contained in just one sturdy handy listing and wish they did have a like one for their state.. And yes, I am aware of the + sign but I misinterpreted the one following the R-b Gs. I thought it referred to the fall dates - not to both periods. I also do remember the conversation last year (?) re the possibility of the long lingering ones nesting here and of course am keeping a wary eye out for signs of such. There is still one pair here for sure - actually more for I hear them singing in the woods - but now I also have a squadron of 5 VERY aggressive Blue Jays which attack any birds at the feeders - even following them to the ones in the front yard after chasing them away in the back yard.. Mary Alice Beer Fairfield Bay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Leif E Anderson" <leanderson(AT)fs.fed.us> To: "Mary Alice Beer" <abeer(AT)artelco.com> Cc: <ARBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.UARK.EDU> Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: AAS Field List Question, Rose-breasted Grosbeaks thoughts Greetings all, I too never tire of looking at Rose-breasteds. I bird all over the country and have found our checklist to be the most thorough of all. In this case the 4D-5B refers to the period when Rose-breasted Grosbeaks usually occur. The "+" sign indicates that there have been sightings outside that range. I had a pair stay into early June one year. I searched real hard for a nest but never found one. I would predict that they will be the next species to start nesting in the state in big numbers (now that Cave Swallows have finally shown up at Lake Millwood). Why?: 1) We have lots of the same habitat that they nest in, further north. 2) They nest within 100 or so miles of the state. So check around real carefully if you've got males and females on into late May/ June. It be so cool to be the one that finds a nest and gets an " * ", put next to the species name on the checklist! Cheers, Leif @ Hector
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Swainson's From: "Jeff R. Wilson" <OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 6:23pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- =20 In a message dated 5/19/2008 11:00:42 A.M. Central Daylight Time, =20 scardif(AT)LSU.EDU writes: I was tempted to endorse the first photo as a Philadelphia but couldn=E2=80= =99t rule=20 out Red-eyed. The second photo, if indeed of the same individual, seems=20 more suggestive of Red-eyed. Steve Cardiff >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> =20 I asked for another photo and we got it;o) I took both photos and lightened= =20 them and still lean to Philli but we can all learn something here. On the=20 first photo the head looked too round on the crown where Red-eye looks flat= =20 headed to me and the white line over the eye rises in a bump rather than be= ing=20 straight giving a Philli a cute, round eyed look and then the bill appeared= =20 small, but maybe it is just the way the head is turned in the photo. =20 The second photo didn't help me much but I'm curious as to the wing=20 extension. The wing tips fall short of the undertail coverts and appear sho= rter in=20 length from the coverts than I remember on Red-eyed. The bill does look muc= h=20 larger but the tail itself appears really short for Red-eye. Maybe Steve or= =20 others can give some thoughts. Great way to learn anyway it goes or maybe t= here=20 is just no way to be sure but will give us something to think about when th= e=20 next Red-eye or Philli jumps up. =20 Thanks for sharing.......... Good Birding !!! Jeff R. Wilson / TLBA 6300 Memphis-Arlington Road Bartlett, TN 38135 http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/ What is this feathered thing that lifts my heart to the heavens. **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family=20 favorites at AOL Food. =20 (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=3Daolfod00030000000001) ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Bell Slough Trail Map From: Dennis Braddy <dmbraddy(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 19 May 2008 10:46pm --Boundary_(ID_vuxVogMqzHKXTP4MDl3N0g) Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT With suggestions from Herschel Raney and using his renderings of the North and Wooded Levee Trails, plus high-resolution satellite-mode maps, Pat's photo of the North and South Loop trailhead map, and a map- in-hand traversal of the latter trails for final tweaks, the Bell Slough WMA hotspot map on Arkansas Birder is now an interactive, draggable, zoomable, mode-changeable trail map. Click on the map markers for directions to Bell Slough and for trail and landmark names. You can view a larger version of the map by clicking on the link below its left-hand corner. You can also print a copy to carry with you like I did. Go ahead. Give it a try. Dennis Braddy Little Rock, AR http://www.arkansasbirder.net "Eternity is a very long time, especially towards the end." - Stephen Hawking --Boundary_(ID_vuxVogMqzHKXTP4MDl3N0g) Content-type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Boundary_(ID_vuxVogMqzHKXTP4MDl3N0g)--

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