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BIRDCHAT for Friday, April 4, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 Name The Hawks  Canyon Wren  6:03am 
 N Am. migratory birds and pesticides in Latin America  JPMyers(AT)aol.com  5:38am 
 [Fwd: [Ontbirds]Point Pelee-Report Ending April 3,2008]  bruce   3:24am 
 =?windows-1252?Q?Border_Fence_and_Sabal_Palm_Sanctuary?=  =?windows-1252?Q?Ric  8:41am 
 Review of Kenn Kaufman's New Book  Patrick Belardo   8:53am 
 field guides  Liz Day   12:39am 
 Pale Male?  Kathy Andrich   11:48am 
 Re: Pale Male?  Steve Moore  11:57am 
 Re: field guides  Nancy L Newfield   1:59pm 
 RE: field guides  Robert McNab   2:49pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Name The Hawks From: "Canyon Wren" <canyonwren(AT)comcast.net> Date: 4 Apr 2008 6:03am Hi Birders, Since March 26, I have been monitoring a pair of Red-shouldered Hawks that have a nest in a tree in the office complex where my office is located; a partially wooded area. When I first discovered them, the nest was already complete and the female was incubating although copulation had been observed on that date so egg laying was most likely not complete then. I've watched at this pair struggles against wind, heavy rainfall, freezing temperatures and even snow. I have a much deeper respect for wildlife after observing what is required of a species to proliferate itself. Each day when I arrive at work, I check the nest for an occupant. I repeat that again late in the day before I depart or dark sets in whichever occurs first. I am keeping a daily log of the activities I observe including photos when possible. After referring to this pair as "my hawks" for the past few weeks, I have decided I want to bestow names upon both of them. I am thinking of names of well known couples from prior history. Some names that have occurred to me include Burns and Allen, Romeo and Juliet, Ronnie and Nancy, Lancelot and Guinevere, Daisy and Donald, and even Franklin and Eleanor. I even did a Google search of famous couples to see if any appropriate names popped up. Today, the idea occurred to me to give birders the opportunity to have input into this naming. There fore, I am requesting those who are interested in doing so, email me an appropriate name of a well known couple. Please put those names in the subject line of the email and send the email to me privately. Please respond by April 14. After that date, I will go through the submissions and report back to the list my choice along with those names that were submitted most frequently. This is only a for fun activity. There is no prize except the possibility that your names may be chosen. Enjoy Spring Migration and Good Birding! Lynea Lynea Hinchman Michigan City, Indiana Heart of the Indiana Dunes CanyonWrenatComcastdotnet "The beauty and genius of a work of art may be reconceived though its first material expression be destroyed. A vanished harmony may yet again inspire the composer, but when the last individual of a race of living beings breathes no more, another heaven and another earth must pass before such a one can be again." William Beebe BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: N Am. migratory birds and pesticides in Latin America From: JPMyers(AT)aol.com Date: 4 Apr 2008 5:38am American songbirds are being wiped out by banned pesticides. The number of migratory songbirds returning to North America has gone into sharp decline due to the unregulated use of highly toxic pesticides and other chemicals across Latin America. London Independent, England. 4 April 2008. complete story at: http://tinyurl.com/4fh6f7 Pete Myers White Hall, VA EnvironmentalHealthNews.org ************** Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. (http://travel.aol.com/travel-guide/united-states?ncid=aoltrv00030000000016) BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [Fwd: [Ontbirds]Point Pelee-Report Ending April 3,2008] From: bruce <brucep(AT)mnsi.net> Date: 4 Apr 2008 3:24am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Enjoy and Good Birding B and B's Bed and Breakfast 216 Erie St South Wheatley (around the corner from Pt Pelee) Ontario N0P2P0 800-851-3406 www.mnsi.net/~brucep www.bandbsbandb.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Ontbirds]Point Pelee-Report Ending April 3,2008 Date: Thu, 3 Apr 2008 13:47:14 -0400 From: Janice.Sarkis(AT)pc.gc.ca To: ONTBIRDS(AT)hwcn.org Submitted by Todd Pepper for Friends of Point Pelee. Friends of Point Pelee is a Not for Profit volunteer organization supporting Point Pelee National Park of Canada Weather has continued to affect spring migration at Point Pelee. Another 10 cm of snow fell on the Park on March 28th, however by the weekend there were some snow free patches on parts of the Tip Trail, Woodland Nature Trail, Tilden Trail and DeLaurier Trail, and in the under story of the forest. There is also open water now at Sanctuary Pond, along the Marsh Boardwalk and at Sturgeon Creek, and all three locations had their first Great Blue Herons of the season. Warmer temperatures and rain at the beginning of this week should mean an end to the snow and remaining ice. There was a new wave of Golden-crowned Kinglets in the Park this week, having been notably absent since early February. The over-wintering Yellow-rumped Warbler has been joined by others of its kind as there were multiple sightings in multiple locations over multiple days in the last week. Eastern Phoebe, while about a week late, was observed on the main road south of the Visitor’s Centre on March 28th, and in other locations throughout the Park on subsequent days, including the usual locations along the east side of the Woodland Nature Trail, near the south bridge on that trail, and on the west side of the Tilden Trail. The place to be continued to be the flooded field outside of Point Pelee at the intersection of Concession Road D and Road 19. Three new species of dabbling duck, Gadwall, American Widgeon and American Black Duck joined the Mallards, Blue-winged Teal, Northern Pintail, Green-winged Teal, Canvasback, and Redhead that have been favouring this location. A few Tundra Swans were still in this flooded field, but the larger concentration of Swans at the north-east corner of Concession B and Concession Road 19 has mostly moved on. Common Goldeneye, Greater and Lesser Scaup and Common and Red-breasted Merganser were common and abundant in the waters of Lake Erie off the Tip. I hope that you are enjoying these reports produced for the Friends of Point Pelee and the birding community. Visitors to Point Pelee National Park should note that the bridge over the Sturgeon Creek from the Bevel Line Road to Point Pelee Drive is closed for repair until April 18, 2008. To access the Park go east on Seacliff Drive East from Erie Street South in Leamington. Continue east on Seacliff Drive past the Bevel Line turn-off to Concession Road 12. Turn Right on Concession 12 and join up with Point Pelee Drive at Paula's Restaurant. 4th Annual Fundraising Dinner Friday May 9th, 2008 @5:30 PM Pelee Days Inn- $60 per person ($25 tax receipt) Reservations can be made at www.friendsofpointpelee.com To help our environmental impact...this is a ticketless event! Presentation: "Coming Home: Return of Western Lake Erie's & Detroit River's Charismatic Megafauna" by Dr. John Hartig - Detroit River International Wildlife Refuge Janice Rogers, General Manager Friends of Point Pelee 519-326-6173 info(AT)friendsofpointpelee.com www.friendsofpointpelee.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- X19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX18NCk9OVEJJ UkRTIGlzIHByZXNlbnRlZCBieSB0aGUgT250YXJpbyBGaWVsZCBPcm5pdGhvbG9naXN0cyAt IHRoZSBwcm92aW5jaWFsIGJpcmRpbmcgb3JnYW5pemF0aW9uLg0KU2VuZCBiaXJkIHJlcG9y dHMgdG8gT05UQklSRFMgbWFpbGluZyBsaXN0IE9OVEJJUkRTQGh3Y24ub3JnDQpGb3IgaW5z dHJ1Y3Rpb25zIHRvIGpvaW4gb3IgbGVhdmUgT05UQklSRFMgdmlzaXQgaHR0cDovL3d3dy5v Zm8uY2EvaW5mb3JtYXRpb24vb250YmlyZHNzZXR1cC5waHANCk9OVEJJUkRTIEd1aWRlbGlu ZXMgbWF5IGJlIHZpZXdlZCBhdCBodHRwOi8vd3d3Lm9mby5jYS9pbmZvcm1hdGlvbi9vbnRi aXJkc2d1aWRlLnBocA0KDQo=
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: =?windows-1252?Q?Border_Fence_and_Sabal_Palm_Sanctuary?= From: "=?windows-1252?Q?Richard_H._Payne_(rhp_AT_shsu.edu)?=" <rhp(AT)SHSU.EDU> Date: 4 Apr 2008 8:41am The following story is on the Austin American-Statesman web page this morning. Dick Payne Colorado Springs, CO --------------------- Border fence could cede last sabal palm forest to Mexico Friday, April 04, 2008 BROWNSVILLE Fence could cede forest to Mexico The announcement this week that the federal government would waive a number of environmental protection laws for the border fence is expected to lead to the closure of two nature preserves that support a growing ecotourism business in a struggling region. The Sabal Palm Audubon Center and Sanctuary and most of The Nature Conservancy's Lennox Foundation Southmost Preserve would end up in the no- man's land between the fence and Mexico. Between the Audubon and The Nature Conservancy's sites, as well as some neighboring National Wildlife Refuge land, the last native groves of a sabal palm forest that once blanketed thousands of acres along the banks of the Rio Grande will be ceded to the Mexican side of the fence. Fence planners have suggested they could add an access gate for its property, but Audubon Texas has dismissed that as unworkable once the preserve is behind a steel fence. BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Review of Kenn Kaufman's New Book From: Patrick Belardo <pbelardo(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 4 Apr 2008 8:53am I recently posted a review of Kenn Kaufman's new book "Flights Against the Sunset" to my blog. If you're a fan of Kenn's, you'll certainly enjoy his new book. Link to book review: http://www.hawkowlsnest.com/2008/03/review-kaufmans-flights-against-sunset.html Patrick Belardo pbelardo-at-yahoo Piscataway, NJ http://www.hawkowlsnest.com ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: field guides From: Liz Day <fraternobombus(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 4 Apr 2008 12:39am I would recommend only the Peterson for beginners. Peterson and Sibley are the only two authors who have been able to make their artwork consistent enough across species that it is useful for ID. As a non-beginner, I use Sibley to study the more difficult birds, or points of ID, and Peterson (either the 1947 or the new one) for brushing up on more familiar birds, because RTP shows the most birds per page. That's important when they're zipping around. I am mystified by people's use of National Geographic. I have this book and never use it. What do people like about it?? Liz Day Indianapolis ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Pale Male? From: Kathy Andrich <chukarbird(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 4 Apr 2008 11:48am Hi Birdchat, Did NYC Red-tailed Hawk, Pale Male disappear? I visited the website and did not see any current information. The current photo's of the Fordham nest male are amazing and were worth the look. Kathy Roosting in Kent, WA chukarbird at yahoo dot com ____________________________________________________________________________________ You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost. http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Pale Male? From: "Steve Moore" <steve(AT)birdwatchradio.com> Date: 4 Apr 2008 11:57am Based on the latest postings on Marie Winn's blog...it looks like all is OK with Pale Male and hatchlings immanent. http://www.mariewinn.com/marieblog/index.htm Steve(AT)BirdwatchRadio.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathy Andrich" <chukarbird(AT)YAHOO.COM> To: <BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU> Sent: Friday, April 04, 2008 2:38 PM Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Pale Male? > Hi Birdchat, > > Did NYC Red-tailed Hawk, Pale Male disappear? I > visited the website and did not see any current > information. The current photo's of the Fordham nest > male are amazing and were worth the look. > > Kathy > Roosting in Kent, WA > chukarbird at yahoo dot com > > > > ____________________________________________________________________________________ > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster > Total Access, No Cost. > http://tc.deals.yahoo.com/tc/blockbuster/text5.com > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: field guides From: Nancy L Newfield <nancy(AT)casacolibri.net> Date: 4 Apr 2008 1:59pm Liz, At 01:39 AM 4/4/2008, Liz Day wrote: >I would recommend only the Peterson for beginners. > >Peterson and Sibley are the only two authors who have >been able to make their artwork consistent enough >across species that it is useful for ID. As a >non-beginner, I use Sibley to study the more difficult >birds, or points of ID, and Peterson (either the 1947 >or the new one) for brushing up on more familiar >birds, because RTP shows the most birds per page. >That's important when they're zipping around. > >I am mystified by people's use of National Geographic. >I have this book and never use it. What do people >like about it?? When I got my first few field guides in the late 1960s, the 'Golden Guide' by Chandler Robbins was my first choice. The Peterson guide had plates in one place, species accounts in another, and maps in the back. The 'Golden Guide' had everything in one place in the book. RTP's guides being divided into eastern and western was also a problem for us in the Deep South, where many western [and tropical] vagrants appear each fall and winter. The 'Golden Guide' had its problems, not the least of which was the poor production quality. A copy seldom lasted a year under field use conditions. When the National Geographic came out in the early 1980s [I think], it became the natural successor to the 'Golden Guide'. I know that the format of the Peterson guide has been changed to make it more user-friendly, but old habits die hard. My autographed copies sit on the shelf while I keep a Sibley guide and a National Geographic [2nd or 3rd edition] in the car. I don't even possess the later editions as the artwork is really inferior [or at least that's the way it seemed when I saw a newer one some years ago]. None of my comments should be thought to be criticisms of RTP. He was a trailblazer, who opened the door to birding to many generations of North Americans. He was also a kind and thoughtful person, who wrote the foreword to my second book and who gave me a lot of personal encouragement. NLN ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Nancy L Newfield Casa Colibrí Metairie, Louisiana USA nancy(AT)casacolibri.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RE: field guides From: Robert McNab <wahooking(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 4 Apr 2008 2:49pm I agree with Nancy in saying that I preferred "the Golden Guide" to RTP when I was a beginning birder in the early 70s. But perhaps this is only because it was the only field guide I knew about as a child. I also prefer the National Geo (5th Edition) to Sibleys Guide. Perhaps it is that he Golden Guide and National Geographic are laid out in similar fashion, and to some extent, both RTP and Sibley are laid out similarly. I've always loved Nat Geo and only use Sibley as an at-home reference. The National Geo fifth edition with its inside cover index all but makes Sibley unusable for me in the field. But like one gentleman already wrote: field guides are subject to the idiosyncrasies of the birder, as is their choice in binoculars. Whatever works best for you... Robert McNab Laguna Niguel, CA > Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2008 15:59:56 -0600> From: nancy(AT)CASACOLIBRI.NET> Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] field guides> To: BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU> > Liz,> > At 01:39 AM 4/4/2008, Liz Day wrote:> > >I would recommend only the Peterson for beginners.> >> >Peterson and Sibley are the only two authors who have> >been able to make their artwork consistent enough> >across species that it is useful for ID. As a> >non-beginner, I use Sibley to study the more difficult> >birds, or points of ID, and Peterson (either the 1947> >or the new one) for brushing up on more familiar> >birds, because RTP shows the most birds per page.> >That's important when they're zipping around.> >> >I am mystified by people's use of National Geographic.> >I have this book and never use it. What do people> >like about it??> > When I got my first few field guides in the late > 1960s, the 'Golden Guide' by Chandler Robbins was > my first choice. The Peterson guide had plates > in one place, species accounts in another, and > maps in the back. The 'Golden Guide' had > everything in one place in the book. RTP's > guides being divided into eastern and western was > also a problem for us in the Deep South, where > many western [and tropical] vagrants appear each fall and winter.> > The 'Golden Guide' had its problems, not the > least of which was the poor production > quality. A copy seldom lasted a year under field > use conditions. When the National Geographic > came out in the early 1980s [I think], it became > the natural successor to the 'Golden Guide'.> > I know that the format of the Peterson guide has > been changed to make it more user-friendly, but > old habits die hard. My autographed copies sit > on the shelf while I keep a Sibley guide and a > National Geographic [2nd or 3rd edition] in the > car. I don't even possess the later editions as > the artwork is really inferior [or at least > that's the way it seemed when I saw a newer one some years ago].> > None of my comments should be thought to be > criticisms of RTP. He was a trailblazer, who > opened the door to birding to many generations of > North Americans. He was also a kind and > thoughtful person, who wrote the foreword to my > second book and who gave me a lot of personal encouragement.> > NLN> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> Nancy L Newfield> Casa Colibrí> Metairie, Louisiana USA> nancy(AT)casacolibri.net> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~> > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html> Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html _________________________________________________________________ Pack up or back up–use SkyDrive to transfer files or keep extra copies. Learn how. hthttp://www.windowslive.com/skydrive/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_skydrive_packup_042008 BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html

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