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BIRDCHAT for Wednesday, April 30, 2008

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 Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds (link)  Devorah Bennu   11:13am 
 RE: Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds (link)  Barry K. MacKay  12:53pm 
 RFI  Bob Cirillo  2:46pm 
 CANADIAN ATTITUDE TO CORMORANTS.  The RIDERS   3:02pm 
 Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds.  The RIDERS   3:18pm 
 [Fwd: [Ontbirds]Pelee - Tram Changes]  bruce   3:21pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds (link) From: Devorah Bennu <birdologist(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 30 Apr 2008 11:13am Hey everyone, I just learned about this terrible tragedy that is happening right across the border in Canada; http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/04/syncrude_tries_to_duck_disaste.php GrrlScientist Devorah http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/ Roosting high up a tree somewhere in Central Park, NYC ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RE: Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds (link) From: "Barry K. MacKay" <mimus(AT)sympatico.ca> Date: 30 Apr 2008 12:53pm Right across the border indeed (as well as on your side). The cull is taking place to save "rare Carolinian plants" that are only rare in the sense that they are at the northern limit of their range. The border is something less than a 100 metres....a football field's length...south of the island. Were it just a tiny bit further north...a fraction of a mile, those plants would not be considered rare (which does not mean that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service wouldn't be doing the killing instead of Parks Canada.) The irony is that I suspect those plants wouldn't be there were it not for cormorants, since the thin soil of Middle Island has organic materials that suggest earlier colonization by birds. The problem is that there is no record of birds on Middle Island prior to 1908, and at that time the only colonial nesting waterbird species on the island was the Common Tern (now absent; there are cormorants, night-herons, egrets, Great Blue Herons and Herring Gulls). The federal and provincial wildlife management community has it firmly fixed in its collective mind that the Double-crested Cormorant is not a native breeding species in the Great Lakes. That's absurd, but the knowledge we have of the birds of the region in the early 19th century, and earlier, is very, very poor, compared to other parts of North America. We do know that the first three editions of the AOU checklist included the Great Lakes in the breeding range of the species; we do know that the first book on the birds of Ontario listed them as a breeding species producing "immense" numbers of young in Ontario lakes; we do know that the bones of the species were dug out of a kitchen midden on the Niagara Peninsula, squarely between Lakes Erie and Ontario, dating to the 16th century; we do know that the species was sketched by an early 19th century naturalist who lived in southern Ontario, between Rice Lake and Toronto, and we do know that the species bred in Ohio, in large numbers, and that includes Sundusky Bay, which opens into Lake Erie and is arguably parts of the Great Lakes...but none of that matters. The official version is that they did not start nesting in the Great Lakes until 1913, earliest...and spread east until hit by DDT after WWII, and are now "hyperabundant", although a recent well done study indicates there were more in North America prior to the 20th Century than after. It shouldn't matter -- bird populations do change, but the argument goes that the "primal" or natural state of Middle Island is the state it was in a few years ago, with more trees than would be there with cormorants. Thus, it is seen as "restoration" to kill off most of the birds, so that the island can continue to look as it did when cormorants were very few in number. That makes no sense to me. There is absolutely nothing unnatural about cormorants nesting on an island in a lake! We know they (and a heck of a lot of other Carolinian fauna and flora) were hugely persecuted through the 19th century, and unfortunately by the time naturalists competent to record them were present in the Great Lakes, they were mostly gone, I fear, and now it is thought by the decision-makers that they weren't here in the first place...although it is never really explained why a fish-eating waterbird found from BC to Labrador and from James Bay (there is a 19th Century breeding record from James Bay on the Quebec side) to the West Indies and Mexico, would avoid the largest source of fresh-water fish in the world. They are vilified because their excrement kills trees (it also kills bacteria, it appears, and like vultures, who excrete on their feet to help reduce pathogens, the highly acidic nature of cormorant excrement serves a biological function of value to them and other birds in the colony), and because they eat fish. One favourite, though unproved, theory of wildlife managers is that they benefit from the agricultural subsidy of catfish farms on their wintering ground, and very accessible non-native Alewives (and, recently, Round Gobies) in the Great Lakes, and thus their numbers are inflated. But looking at early records of Great Lakes fisheries it seems to me incomprehensible that they had less accessible fish biomass prior to Europeans arriving in the Great Lakes, than after. The vilification is endless. Just recently I found a report by COSEWIC about the Lake Erie Watersnake, an endemic race of Northern Watersnake found only on the Lake Erie Islands (COSEWIC is the supposedly independent body that advises the Canadian federal government on rare or endangered species), in which a provincial employee discusses a dead snake found with bird pecks on its body. This is an island with lots of gulls and herons, but the species speculated about was...yep...the cormorant...the only colonial nesting waterbird species on the island that does not eat snakes! (And BTW, the snakes are thriving -- they also love Round Gobies -- and there is no indication that cormorants threaten them in any way). We took Parks Canada to court because it had not done what it is legally mandated to do, but we lost...the court essentially ruled that they could do what they choose to do because, in effect, they are their own authority. Now we'll be on the hook for court costs, but we had to do something. The shooters are using .117 rifles, which is smaller than a .22, and will, I'm sure, cause even more wounding. My friends are trying to document things, legally, because it seems unless we show just how cruel and bloody these culls are, no one much cares. So far there is little opposition to culling in the U.S., but I happen to know that there is immense pressure on Canadian by the U.S. authorities to "do something", since the Americans want to knock the continental population down by about half (although exactly how many there are is uncertain). The pork-barrel catfish farm lobby of the southern U.S. is, it seems, quite powerful. Barry Barry Kent MacKay Markham, Ontario, Canada > -----Original Message----- > From: National Birding Hotline Cooperative (Chat Line) > [mailto:BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Devorah Bennu > Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 2:12 PM > To: BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU > Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing > Migratory Birds (link) > > Hey everyone, > > I just learned about this terrible tragedy that is happening > right across the border in Canada; > > http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/2008/04/syncrude_tries_t > o_duck_disaste.php > > GrrlScientist > Devorah > http://scienceblogs.com/grrlscientist/ > Roosting high up a tree somewhere in Central Park, NYC > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________ > ______________________ > Be a better friend, newshound, and > know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. > http://mobile.yahoo.com/;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ > > BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html > Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1404 - Release > Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.6/1404 - Release Date: 4/29/2008 6:27 PM BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RFI From: "Bob Cirillo" <rcirillo(AT)cableone.net> Date: 30 Apr 2008 2:46pm I am leaving on a trip to Jaco, Costa Rica on 06/09/08.I would like to bird at least 2 maybe 3 days.Does anyone have recommendations for birding hotspots and English speaking guides for this area?? Bob Cirillo Sun City, Arizona BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: CANADIAN ATTITUDE TO CORMORANTS. From: The RIDERS <rider(AT)xcelco.on.ca> Date: 30 Apr 2008 3:02pm Hi Chatters. I totally support the suggestion that the DOUBLE-CRESTED CORMORANTS be culled on Middle Island in Lake Erie. Reason--They will destroy what is left of the Carolinian ecosystem on Middle Island. The same 'tree huggers' were against any WHITE-TAILED DEER culls in Ontario which have been proved to be very successful in restoring habitat, conserving the gene pool in the soil, the health of the forest and improved the size and health of the deer themselves. Now they are not half starved at the beginning of the winter, and none are starving locally now. We most likely will not re-introduce GRAY WOLVES into the deer areas of Ontario to control the deer population. So culls have to be done. When BALD EAGLES re-establish a territory on Middle Island, it is possible that the problem of Cormorants will be solved. Until then--- Down with Cormorants- Here is to success by the Eagles or Gunners, whichever comes first! Enjoy your Birding. Alf. PS. It is also time for a MUTE SWAN cull too. As taxpayers we have supported the re-introduction of TRUMPETER SWANS into Ontario which are a native species, and yet the Ontario Government protects the destructive and agressive alien MUTES. Is it because they are alleged to be unable to speak for themselves? Actually they can and one was vocalising loudly on Kettle Point eight weeks ago! My joy is that Kettle Point being a Chippewa Reserve, comes under the Federal Government and so--- Mute Swan for Christmas. If the Queen can have one, why not us? Cheers. Alf. BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canadian Environmental Tragedy Killing Migratory Birds. From: The RIDERS <rider(AT)xcelco.on.ca> Date: 30 Apr 2008 3:18pm Hello Chatters. There seems to have been an attempted cover-up by those in power to prevent the facts being reported. It looks like 500 birds were killed by an oily pond. The law is specific about what has to be done to prevent birds from landing in and and becoming contaminated by such toxic waters. This was not done. Period. So let us see the culprit in court? Probably not--too rich, too important? The oil produced from these Alberta Tar Sands comes at the cost of possibly the worst Environmental pollution in Canada. The Alberta politicians are also trying to cover this up. Not many of us 'general public' can get to see this dreadful mess on the land. Rant over. Alf. Forest Ontario. Canada. BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [Fwd: [Ontbirds]Pelee - Tram Changes] From: bruce <brucep(AT)mnsi.net> Date: 30 Apr 2008 3:21pm FYI Good Birding Bruce B and B's Bed and Breakfast 216 Erie St South Wheatley (around the corner from Pt Pelee) Ontario N0P2P0 800-851-3406 www.mnsi.net/~brucep www.bandbsbandb.com -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [Ontbirds]Pelee - Tram Changes Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 09:24:50 -0400 From: Michael Carlson <mecec(AT)comcast.net> Reply-To: mecec(AT)comcast.net Organization: MEC Environmental Consulting To: ontbirds(AT)hwcn.org <ontbirds(AT)hwcn.org> This email was approved by the Ontbirds coordinator. Birders, Those planning to come to Point Pelee this year should be aware of changes in the operation of the tram or transport from the Visitor Centre to the Tip. These changes are as follows: 1) There will only be one two-car tram operating every 20 minutes. The other transports were deemed unsafe and were taken off the road. This means there will be no second tram to handle overflows on the peak weekends in May as in the past,. For at least the first two weekends in May, it may be wise to plan on taking the tram 20 minutes before the time you are interested in. This way you will likely be in the queue for the tram time you want. According to Marian Stranak, Superintendent of Point Pelee National Park, the park is negotiating with a local bus company to provide transport in the unlikely event that the existing tram fails. 2) The last tram will leave the Visitor Centre at 5 pm. (The first one still will leave at 6 am until May 20, when it leaves at 10 am.) 3) The tram will no longer stop at the halfway point for people to embark or disembark. 4) Parks Canada HQ this year rejected Point Pelee's request for a new transport system, according to Ms. Stranak. She is hopeful and indicated that the park is committed to trying to implement a new system. A Friends of Point Pelee representative indicated to me recently that the organization is considering the possibility of raising funds for a new tram. Ms. Stranak indicated that park staff will be looking closely at user comments concerning the changes in the tram schedule, and assured me that the park would reconsider these changes if they adversely affected visitors' experience of the park, based on feedback received. Blessings, Mike Carlson Royal Oak, MI _______________________________________________ ONTBIRDS is presented by the Ontario Field Ornithologists - the provincial birding organization. Send bird reports to ONTBIRDS mailing list ONTBIRDS(AT)hwcn.org For instructions to join or leave ONTBIRDS visit http://www.ofo.ca/information/ontbirdssetup.php ONTBIRDS Guidelines may be viewed at http://www.ofo.ca/information/ontbirdsguide.php BirdChat Guidelines: http://www.ksu.edu/audubon/chatguidelines.html Archives: http://listserv.arizona.edu/archives/birdchat.html

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