BIRDCHAT for Tuesday, December 22, 2009

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Subject: NYS Kingbird Archives/ ABA Birding Archives
From: Ber Carr <mycocarex(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2009 8:02am

The NY State Ornitological Association has recently added past editions of their
 quarterly journal in an online archive. This is a great resource for
information for the distribution of NY Birds.

I checked the ABA site, but only a small portion of the articles from Birding
are archived.  This may have been covered before, but will the full editions of
Birding be archived? I'm at the point where I'd like to donate my hard copies to
 others who would like to read them. These people may join once they've had a
chance to read the magazine.

 

Bernie Carr

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Subject: Adelie Penguins and Temp Change
From: Mark Leggett <palmwarbler(AT)gmail.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2009 12:28pm

Interesting article in the Dec 21 & 28, 2009, issue of The New Yorker
entitled The Ice Retreat: Global Warming and the Adelie Penguin by Fen
Montaigne.  Environmental change is occurring in Antarctica very fast.

Mark Leggett
Palm Springs CA

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Subject: Re: Non-countable exotics on Christmas Bird
         Counts
From: "Mitch" <mitch(AT)utopianature.com>
Date: 22 Dec 2009 2:47pm

Hi Joe,

Thanks!   Yes I am sure it was not "ABA submittable" for a
while way back when because a couple times I thought there
were earthquakes and it turned out to be disgruntled listers finding
out the bird was not ABA submittable under the rules then,
based on it not being accepted by the CBRC.   :)

I don't know the current rules, obviously, because I don't
competitively list.

P.S.  So just 30 some years after everyone else figured it out,
the CBRC got it?    :)

Thanks again,
best regards,
Mitch

Mitch Heindel
Utopia, TX

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Morlan" <jmorlan(AT)gmail.com>
To: "Mitch" <mitch(AT)utopianature.com>
Cc: <BIRDCHAT(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sent: Monday, December 21, 2009 6:16 PM
Subject: Re: [BIRDCHAT] Non-countable exotics on Christmas Bird Counts

> On Mon, 21 Dec 2009 16:37:03 -0600, "Mitch" <mitch(AT)utopianature.com>
wrote:
>
> >I think some of the confusion comes from an old (?) rule of ABA's
> >that went something like: to count a bird for submitted state totals
> >the species has to be on that state's official list.  Is that rule extant
> >or did I mis-understand it?
>
> Current rules require that the ABA, AOU and Clements checklists must be
> followed.  State checklists are not mentioned. I believe that there may
> have been such a rule during the short-lived "list verification," but no
> such rule is in the current version of rules posted at:
>
> http://www.aba.org/bigday/rules.pdf
>
> >So for example when hundreds of people saw a Falcated Duck
> >in 1969 at Newport Bay, and then the CBRC rejected it, leaving
> >the species off the state list, it could not be counted and submitted
> >with ABA totals because the species was not on the state list.
>
> Actually, the CBRC reversed its decision on the Newport Bay Falcated Duck
> in 2006. In my opinion, neither the original questioning of the duck's
> natural occurrence, nor its subsequent acceptance should have impacted
your
> list.
>
> The species was already on the ABA checklist.  You saw it to your
> satisfaction.  It appeared to be wild and unrestrained.  I say it was
> entirely your call whether you counted it on your list.
>
> --
> Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA        jmorlan (at) ccsf.edu
> SF Birding Classes start Feb.9     http://fog.ccsf.edu/jmorlan/
> California Bird Records Committee  http://www.californiabirds.org/
> Western Field Ornithologists
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