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Subject: Anyone ever see a Cardinal do this?
From: "KC Foggin" <KCFoggin(AT)sc.rr.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 3:19am
Jumped from the bath into the Honeysuckle and just started rolling around. New
to me.
http://upload.pbase.com/image/59946927
KC Foggin
Socastee
Myrtle Beach SC
www.birdforum.net
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Subject: Re: Chickadees
From: Sfantony20(AT)aol.com
Date: 10 May 2006 8:38am
In a message dated 4/30/2006 8:55:36 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
wforsythe(AT)mchsi.com writes:
Folks,
I have recently moved to a different home just outside of
Hendersonville proper. I have 1 3/4 acres of mostly woods, but the
immediate area around the house has a 20'-30' wide lawn which is surrounded
by rhodo's and other trees, bushes, etc. I put out 4 blue bird boxes and
now have Chickadees nesting in 3 of them. All of these boxes are within a
100 foot circle. I am surprised that Chickadees will tolerate each other
and that they would nest within such a close proximity to each other but
everything seems calm on the home front. Is this unusual or do they always
tolerate each other so well? Any comments will be welcome.
Thanks,
Wayne
Wayne K. Forsythe
Hendersonville, N. C.
828-697-6628
wforsythe AT mchsi dot com
I know this is out of the area but my parents up in WV have chickadees
nesting right beside their porch in a tiny bird house. The also have Phoebes
everywhere, and my Mom has been trying everything to keep them from nesting on
her front porch which is quite a messy situation. Her last attempt was to put
plastic snakes all over the porch and on the eaves because somebody told here
they would not nest where they thought there were snakes. Not quite
successful, the phoebes built one nest on one of the fake snakes head!!!!
LOL!!!
Tammy Lester
Atlantic Beach, NC
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Subject: Re: Chucks in Orange County
From: Norman Budnitz <norman.budnitz(AT)duke.edu>
Date: 10 May 2006 8:44am
Hi Jacob,
I live on Garrett Drive, a dirt road off of Murphy School Rd. I have
been hearing Chuck's this spring and heard them last spring, but not
prior to that. So I think Chucks in this immediate area are a new
phenomenon. I have also heard Whips from my house, but their calls seem
to come from an area toward Friends School Rd rather than toward Murphy
School Rd. Different habitat, I presume.
Norm
Jacob Socolar wrote:
> Hi carolinabirders,
> Good warblers in Duke Forest's Korstian divison (Orange County, NC) Sunday
and today have included at least two adult male Chestnut-sideds, several
Black-throated Blues, and one each of Worm-eating and Magnolia (all were seen
and heard, except for the Magnolia, which was only seen) in addition to the
usual suspects.
> Saturday night I checked the areas along the north side of Mount Sinai Road
(still Orange County, NC) for nightbirds, hearing at least seven
Chuck-will's-widows and a single Whip-poor-will along with a couple of Barred
Owls. Most of the Chuck-will's were heard along Murphy School Road, just
birding from the car. If this area turns out to be reliable for
Chuck-will's-widow, then I believe it will be one of the only such areas in
Orange County. (please correct me if I'm wrong)
>
> Good Birding,
> Jacob Socolar
> Chapel Hill, NC
>
>
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GSK NTH-M2451
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Durham NC 27713
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Subject: Re: Chickadees
From: K Dean EDWARDS <kde(AT)angst.engr.utk.edu>
Date: 10 May 2006 9:16am
We have Carolina Chickadees nesting in 2 boxes in our yard about
150 ft apart with the feeder station directly in the middle. I
wouldn't call it "peaceful co-existence". The first pair started
about 2 weeks before the second. When the second pair moved in
there were hourly fights and near constant singing and fussing
competitions. The first set are about to fledge now and as the
young got older, less and less time was spent fighting and more
and more spent gathering food. Now they are fairly tolerant of each
other but I suspect only because they are too busy to bother with
fighting.
Dean Edwards
Knoxville, TN
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Subject: Awesome Yard Bird Day
From: "kaye fenlon" <ktfenlon(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 9:16am
Hello Carolina Birders,
The day started off with a COMMON YELLOWTHROAT singing in the front yard, I
figured he would move on after feasting on a few worms and bathing in my
"oasis", but he stayed around all day and delighted us with his song...
singing late into the evening in the hedge nearby. Later in the morning
when I was out trimming azaleas, a lifer bird for me landed in an oak tree
not 20 feet away and started singing...a SUMMER TANAGER. I did not need my
binocs to see him...resplendent in his flaming scarlet plummage!! I thought
the day couln't get any better, but I also saw PALM WARBLER, MAGNOLIA
WARBLER and a flock of CEDAR WAXWINGS. To top it all off.. when we were
having dinner on the deck a SWAINSON'S WARBLER flew into a huge magnolia
and sang for more than an hour. It was magical..birding does not get any
better than that for me and it was all in my own yard!
Of interesting note.. when the House wren would sing the Common
Yellowthroat would immediately start singing. It was almost like they were
dueling. The House Wren moved right over to the bushes where the
Yellowthroat was singing . At first I did not think anything of it, but as
I really started listening it really did seem deliberate?? This went on for
quite awhile. I had never observed that before between two different
species. It is amazing what you can observe while trimmimg up the yard.
I am seeing both male and female Hummingbirds now, but not very often.Very
late in the evening they come in to the feeders. The number we have around
is defintely lower than ever before. Usually when I am out in the yard all
day, I see them on the flowers or hear them, but I saw none yesterday. Some
of my neighbors have made the same comment.
Have a good birding day,
Katie Fenlon
Clemsom, SC
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Subject: Butner birds
From: "Kevin Caldwell" <kevin(AT)equinoxenvironmental.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 10:18am
In doing botanical work on a 5K acre tract near Butner (north of Durham)
last week, we heard and saw / heard some good migratories including:
RH / RB / Pileated / Downy W-peckers
RS / RT Hawks and Goshawk (Butner lake)
Warbs were numerous: N.Parula /BTGW /Redstart / BTBW / Yellow / Ovenbird /
Y.Rumps / Worm-eating / LAW Thrush / Swainsons / Prairie / Hooded / YB Chat
/ B&W
~30 Turkeys (by sight)
REVI / BHVI / YEVI / WEVI's
Field / Song / WT Sparrows (still) / Towhee
YB Cuckoo
EW Pewee
BG Gnat-catchers
GC Fly / Acadian Flycatchers
WBNHatch
Sc Tanagers
Wood Thrush
Belted Kingfisher
All residents in tow of course but fowl was sparse, only Canada's &
Mallards. No wood ducks to be seen.
Possibly Wilson's warbs moving through but only based on sound - does anyone
hear them moving through the Butner / Durham area this time of year?
Kevin Caldwell
Barnardsville, NC (mts)
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Subject: Re: Carolinas Nature Sound Workshop/Conference in March, May
or June, 2007
From: "David Ross" <dlrossjr(AT)gmail.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 10:42am
Sound Enthusiast,
Been away from gmail for a while..
A workshop sounds great, especially if there is enough interest.
Cornell's Lab of O. has been running field courses for decades. They
were filled with information on technique, equip, archives,
documentation, etc.. but the true strength, and lasting value (at
least in my experience) was in the time in the field working with
experienced people, and then later listening to our efforts. So I
would suggest focusing on the recording side.
I live in Durham, and frankly the triangle, it is a very, very noisy
place. It is simply impossible to pretend to escape masking noise,
near Duke, Durham and the surroundings. Lots of great roads, and RDU.
The NC State Hill Experimental Forest in Northern Durham County, is
still noisy but maybe acceptable--not sure how much lodging they have
their, There has been some recent logging, but there is the a nice
forest in the form of an absolute preserve of mesic forest near the
Flat River, and a few other spots nearby, including ponds and fields.
They do run a 10 week forestry field course there.
The Congaree, is still fairly close to a busy enough road, and has the
usual planes trains and autos, but its better noise-wise than the
triangle. It also has the draw of being "The Congaree".
Have any mountain-folk weighed in on this?
Dave Ross
On 4/3/06, Robin Carter <rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com> wrote:
> Greetings all,
>
> Many emails have been kicking around recently about having a nature sound
> recording workshop or small conference somewhere in the Carolinas as soon as
> possible. Several suggestions have been made. Here is my overview of what we
> have suggested.
>
> 1. The meeting should be technical, but open to beginners. We need some
> hands-on instruction for beginners, but it would also be good to have a
> paper session and perhaps even a guest speaker.
>
> 2. It would be good to schedule this meeting sometime when birds and frogs
> are calling, but not during April or early May (since birders are already
> booked solid during those times).
>
> 3. It would be good to have a more or less central location in North
> Carolina or South Carolina for this meeting.
>
> 4. The meeting should last about two or three days, perhaps over a weekend
> (Friday through Sunday morning).
>
> Various suggestions have been made for time and place. June seems to be the
> preferred month (but late May or March would also work). Two main venues
> have been suggested -- Duke University and Congaree National Park. Duke
> would have good conference facilities, but so would Congaree National Park.
> At Congaree NP the recording practicum could be held only a short walk from
> the meeting place.
>
> I have started preliminary inquiries into having such a workshop at Congaree
> National Park in March, late May or early June, 2007. It is far too late to
> get anything organized for this year (2006).
>
> Other times or places might work. There is some appeal in going to the
> mountains. We might be able to schedule something earlier on the coast in
> winter. Even Congaree NP would be good for a winter conference since there
> is quite a nice soundscape in winter in the park.
>
> Now is the time for making your opinions and ideas known. Please feel free
> to forward this to anyone who might be interested.
>
> Robin Carter
> Columbia, SC USA
> mailto:rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com
>
>
--
David Ross
www.tinkfrog.com
www.theBirdZoo.com
www.CostaRicanBirds.com
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Subject: Re: Butner birds
From: jspippen(AT)duke.edu
Date: 10 May 2006 2:42pm
Hi Kevin,
While a Wilson's Warbler is possible, I would suggest you heard variations
of Yellow-rumps.
Also, can you give some details on the N. Goshawk? That's one heckuva
rare bird here and now! I know some folks (myself included) that would
very much like to see a goshawk in North Carolina!
Thanks for the report.
Jeff
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Kevin Caldwell wrote:
> In doing botanical work on a 5K acre tract near Butner (north of Durham)
> last week, we heard and saw / heard some good migratories including:
>
> RH / RB / Pileated / Downy W-peckers
> RS / RT Hawks and Goshawk (Butner lake)
> Warbs were numerous: N.Parula /BTGW /Redstart / BTBW / Yellow / Ovenbird /
> Y.Rumps / Worm-eating / LAW Thrush / Swainsons / Prairie / Hooded / YB Chat
> / B&W
> ~30 Turkeys (by sight)
> REVI / BHVI / YEVI / WEVI's
> Field / Song / WT Sparrows (still) / Towhee
> YB Cuckoo
> EW Pewee
> BG Gnat-catchers
> GC Fly / Acadian Flycatchers
> WBNHatch
> Sc Tanagers
> Wood Thrush
> Belted Kingfisher
>
> All residents in tow of course but fowl was sparse, only Canada's &
> Mallards. No wood ducks to be seen.
>
> Possibly Wilson's warbs moving through but only based on sound - does anyone
> hear them moving through the Butner / Durham area this time of year?
>
>
>
> Kevin Caldwell
> Barnardsville, NC (mts)
>
>
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jeffrey S. Pippen
Nicholas School of the Environment and Earth Sciences
Rm A-241 LSRC Bldg, Box 90328
Duke University, Durham, NC 27708
PH: (919) 660-7278
http://www.duke.edu/~jspippen/nature.htm
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Subject: (Fwd) Sprague's Pipit
From: "Will Cook" <cwcook(AT)duke.edu>
Date: 10 May 2006 3:08pm
Doug Shadwick asked me to forward the message below to Carolinabirds.
Dave Lenat got some photos showing additional details that help
identify the birds as Sprague's Pipit, such as pale leg color and
back/crown streaking. I bet Kent will post these to the CBC website
soon. Amazing!
------- Forwarded message follows -------
Subject: Re: Sprague's Pipit
From: Douglas S Shadwick <dshadwic(AT)csc.com>
Date sent: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:55:02 -0400
Following up on Dave Lenat's posting for the Sprague's Pipits at the Horne
Farm near Stedman, NC, I followed up on the birds this morning (May 9).
After not finding the birds at the location Dave had posted and meeting
Dave, I explored the surrounding fields and found a group of four pipits
in a field adjacent to the one Dave had originally seen them in. Although
I only got looks through a spotting scope at a distance of 100 yards or so,
the main field marks of the pipits could be distinguished clearly. I did
not hear any calls while observing the birds.
The pipits seem to be quite comfortable foraging and preening. Maybe
they'll stay a while.
Doug Shadwick
Chapel Hill, NC
------- End of forwarded message -------
--
Charles W. "Will" Cook w 919-660-5144
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook cwcook(AT)duke.edu
Box 90340, Biology Dept., Duke Univ., Durham, NC 27708
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Subject: Re: (Fwd) Sprague's Pipit
From: "Will Cook" <cwcook(AT)duke.edu>
Date: 10 May 2006 3:34pm
Oops -- looking at the pictures more closely, I think juvenile Horned
Lark is a better fit. That would make a lot more sense. This site has
some images and discussion:
http://keenbirding.com/Fall05/mystreyanswer010905.html
and another photo:
http://www.birds.cornell.edu/AllAboutBirds/BirdGuide/Horned_Lark.html
> Doug Shadwick asked me to forward the message below to Carolinabirds.
> Dave Lenat got some photos showing additional details that help
> identify the birds as Sprague's Pipit, such as pale leg color and
> back/crown streaking. I bet Kent will post these to the CBC website
> soon. Amazing!
>
> ------- Forwarded message follows -------
> Subject: Re: Sprague's Pipit
> From: Douglas S Shadwick <dshadwic(AT)csc.com>
> Date sent: Tue, 9 May 2006 16:55:02 -0400
>
> Following up on Dave Lenat's posting for the Sprague's Pipits at the Horne
> Farm near Stedman, NC, I followed up on the birds this morning (May 9).
> After not finding the birds at the location Dave had posted and meeting
> Dave, I explored the surrounding fields and found a group of four pipits
> in a field adjacent to the one Dave had originally seen them in. Although
> I only got looks through a spotting scope at a distance of 100 yards or so,
> the main field marks of the pipits could be distinguished clearly. I did
> not hear any calls while observing the birds.
>
> The pipits seem to be quite comfortable foraging and preening. Maybe
> they'll stay a while.
>
> Doug Shadwick
> Chapel Hill, NC
>
> ------- End of forwarded message -------
--
Charles W. "Will" Cook w 919-660-5144
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook cwcook(AT)duke.edu
Box 90340, Biology Dept., Duke Univ., Durham, NC 27708
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Subject: Lower Saluda 05/10
From: "Jason Giovannone" <buteo2808(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 3:50pm
Another pleasant day at the zoo with more great birds today. I had 2
Solitary & 5 Spotted Sandpipers on top of MIll Race. I saw my first cuckoos
on site today as well. I found the Yellow-billed along the woodland walk on
the Lexington county side, and the Black-billed was found on the Richland
County side along the trail were the proposed riverwalk will go. I also had
several Swainson's Thrushes singing which was a nice treat. I saw my first
Blackpoll Warbler & Northern Waterthrushes of the season & the first Yellow
Warbler of the year for the zoo. Good Birding!
Jason Giovannone
Columbia, SC
Full List
Canada Goose
Wood Duck
Mallard
Double-crested Cormorant
Great Blue Heron
Green Heron
Red-tailed Hawk
Killdeer
Solitary Sandpiper
Rock Pigeon
Mourning Dove
Black-billed Cuckoo
Yellow-billed Cuckoo
Chimney Swift
Belted Kingfisher
Red-bellied Woodpecker
Downy Woodpecker
Eastern Wood-Pewee
Great Crested Flycatcher
Eastern Kingbird
Red-eyed Vireo
Blue Jay
American Crow
Northern Rough-winged Swallow
Carolina Chickadee
Tufted Titmouse
Brown-headed Nuthatch
Carolina Wren
Swainson's Thrush
Catharus Species
Wood Thrush
American Robin
Gray Catbird
Northern Mockingbird
Cedar Waxwing
Northern Parula
Yellow Warbler
Black-throated Blue Warbler
Pine Warbler
Blackpoll Warbler
American Redstart
Prothonotary Warbler
Ovenbird
Northern Waterthrush
Common Yellowthroat
Hooded Warbler
Summer Tanager
Northern Cardinal
Indigo Bunting
Common Grackle
Brown-headed Cowbird
House Finch
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Subject: Sprague's Pipit vs. Juvenile Horned Lark
From: David Lenat <lenatbks(AT)mindspring.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 3:56pm
After review of pictures taken this morning, the consensus is that the
"Sprague's Pipits" seen by myself and Doug Shadwick are actually
juvenile Horned Larks. Going strictly by the standard field guides does
seem to produce the pipit identifications, but more detailed use of
other guides and web resources indicate Horned Lark. One troubling
aspect of these birds was the presence of a small flock, whereas the
Sprague's Pipit is usally seen singly.
I will be glad to send pictures to anyone who would like to either test
their ID skills or learn from my mistake.
Dave Lenat, Raleigh
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Subject: Oops - meant Osprey not Goshawk!
From: "Kevin Caldwell" <kevin(AT)equinoxenvironmental.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 4:11pm
Correction - I meant to post Osprey not N.Goshawk from the Butner Lake, so
pardon the error. I was corrected by Jeff Pippen (thanks). Having been in
N.England the past 4 years where they both occur readily, I confused then in
listing - my fault.
Jeff also suggests that the possible "Swainson's" may be variation of
Y.Rumps. Sibley shows the breeding / migration lines as being pretty close
to Butner / Durham though ,but its tough to tell exactly from the map and
its not listed in the Durham Co NHP report of the 1993 APES work.
Kevin Caldwell
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Subject: Acadian Flycatcher
From: "Stu Gibeau" <sgibeau(AT)bellsouth.net>
Date: 10 May 2006 4:35pm
Went to my usual spot in Montreat, NC at the trail head to the Rainbow Trail
and heard the Acadian Flycatcher this afternoon. Also saw a green heron on
a stick in a puddle at the Christian radio station in Black Mountain today.
That's the same puddle I saw too Spotted Sandpipers yesterday. Also heard a
LA Waterthrush today by the Swannanoa river in Black Mountain.
Stu Gibeau
Black Mountain, NC
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Subject: Re: Sprague's Pipit vs. Juvenile Horned Lark
From: Kent Fiala <fiala(AT)ipass.net>
Date: 10 May 2006 6:09pm
Dave is feeling too embarrassed to allow me to post his photos on the
CBC web site. However I feel that we should give him credit for getting
the birds correctly identified. Too often on carolinabirds we see cases
where someone simply reports seeing an unusual bird by giving its name
and no other details. Sometimes people even get in a huff over being
asked for more details. This could have been another case where Dave
simply said "I saw Sprague's Pipits" and that would be that. But he
persevered and got evidence that he shared with other interested
parties, and the identification was resolved. We need more of this.
Even though you may not be able to see Dave's photos, if you follow
those links that I sent Will, you will see birds that look pretty much
identical. Would you have identified them correctly?
Kent Fiala
Chapel Hill Township, NC
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Subject: Request for newsletter submissions
From: "Steven Shultz" <SSHULTZ(AT)nc.rr.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 6:09pm
Members of the Carolina Bird Club (you are a member, right?? If not,
check out the website at www.carolinabirdclub.org to review the
advantages and accoutrements of membership) are invited to submit
articles for the bi-monthly Newsletter. The newsletter's primary focus
is to share news of Club events such as the three annual meetings and
special field trips, but often has room for articles of interest by
members. Have a favorite birding spot that could use some more birders
from time to time? Write up a short article describing the location,
access, and special birding features. Go on a birding trip to an exotic
locale? Send a brief write up of what you did and what you saw. Have a
humorous birding anecdote, or a look back at a birding event long past?
Write it up and see your name in lights! ...well maybe not, but you may
see your article in print!
Seriously. The Newsletter often struggles for content, and when I
inherited the task of editor, there was a catalog of exactly one article
submitted for review. I can write stuff and stick it in there, but I'm
sure everyone would soon tire of that rather quickly :-) Submissions
can be sent directly to me, or through the
-Newsletter(AT)carolinabirdclub.org- e-mail address.
Here's a handy disclaimer courtesy of the CBC Webmaster:
Merely submitting information for publication doesn't mean it will be
published. For example, requests for commercial announcements will
mostly be ignored. Items that are controversial, or that might require
input from the CBC Executive Committee prior to publishing might be
delayed.
The e-mail addresses above support attachments, but let's try to keep
them as small as possible, eh?
Best,
Steve Shultz
Apex, NC
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Subject: Re: Carolinas Nature Sound Workshop/Conference in March, May
or June, 2007
From: "Frederick Houk Jr" <woodthrush2263(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 10 May 2006 7:00pm
Mason Farm at UNC would also be a good location. It's proximate to Jordan
Lake, as well...
Fred Houk
Chatham County
>From: "David Ross" <dlrossjr(AT)gmail.com>
>To: "Robin Carter" <rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com>
>CC: "Doug Pratt" <Doug.Pratt(AT)ncmail.net>, "Chris Hill"
><chill(AT)kingfish.coastal.edu>, "William Majoros" <bmajoros(AT)duke.edu>, "John
>Grego" <jrgrego(AT)mindspring.com>, "Irvin Pitts" <ipitts(AT)scprt.com>, "Fred
>Houk" <woodthrush2263(AT)hotmail.com>, "Walter Knapp"
><wwknapp(AT)mindspring.com>, "J. M. Lynch" <jmlynch(AT)earthlink.net>, "John
>Cely" <jecely(AT)sc.rr.com>, "Caroline Eastman" <ceastman(AT)sc.rr.com>,
>"Naturerecordists(AT)Yahoogroups.Com" <naturerecordists(AT)yahoogroups.com>,
>CarolinaBirds <carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
>Subject: Re: Carolinas Nature Sound Workshop/Conference in March, May or
>June, 2007
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:39:06 -0400
>
>Sound Enthusiast,
>
>Been away from gmail for a while..
>
>A workshop sounds great, especially if there is enough interest. Cornell's
>Lab of O. has been running field courses for decades. They
>were filled with information on technique, equip, archives,
>documentation, etc.. but the true strength, and lasting value (at
>least in my experience) was in the time in the field working with
>experienced people, and then later listening to our efforts. So I
>would suggest focusing on the recording side.
>
>I live in Durham, and frankly the triangle, it is a very, very noisy
>place. It is simply impossible to pretend to escape masking noise,
>near Duke, Durham and the surroundings. Lots of great roads, and RDU.
>
>The NC State Hill Experimental Forest in Northern Durham County, is
>still noisy but maybe acceptable--not sure how much lodging they have
>their, There has been some recent logging, but there is the a nice
>forest in the form of an absolute preserve of mesic forest near the
>Flat River, and a few other spots nearby, including ponds and fields.
>They do run a 10 week forestry field course there.
>
>The Congaree, is still fairly close to a busy enough road, and has the
>usual planes trains and autos, but its better noise-wise than the
>triangle. It also has the draw of being "The Congaree".
>
>Have any mountain-folk weighed in on this?
>
>
>Dave Ross
>
>On 4/3/06, Robin Carter <rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com> wrote:
>>Greetings all,
>>
>>Many emails have been kicking around recently about having a nature sound
>>recording workshop or small conference somewhere in the Carolinas as soon
>>as
>>possible. Several suggestions have been made. Here is my overview of what
>>we
>>have suggested.
>>
>>1. The meeting should be technical, but open to beginners. We need some
>>hands-on instruction for beginners, but it would also be good to have a
>>paper session and perhaps even a guest speaker.
>>
>>2. It would be good to schedule this meeting sometime when birds and frogs
>>are calling, but not during April or early May (since birders are already
>>booked solid during those times).
>>
>>3. It would be good to have a more or less central location in North
>>Carolina or South Carolina for this meeting.
>>
>>4. The meeting should last about two or three days, perhaps over a weekend
>>(Friday through Sunday morning).
>>
>>Various suggestions have been made for time and place. June seems to be
>>the
>>preferred month (but late May or March would also work). Two main venues
>>have been suggested -- Duke University and Congaree National Park. Duke
>>would have good conference facilities, but so would Congaree National
>>Park.
>>At Congaree NP the recording practicum could be held only a short walk
>>from
>>the meeting place.
>>
>>I have started preliminary inquiries into having such a workshop at
>>Congaree
>>National Park in March, late May or early June, 2007. It is far too late
>>to
>>get anything organized for this year (2006).
>>
>>Other times or places might work. There is some appeal in going to the
>>mountains. We might be able to schedule something earlier on the coast in
>>winter. Even Congaree NP would be good for a winter conference since there
>>is quite a nice soundscape in winter in the park.
>>
>>Now is the time for making your opinions and ideas known. Please feel free
>>to forward this to anyone who might be interested.
>>
>>Robin Carter
>>Columbia, SC USA
>>mailto:rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com
>>
>>
>
>
>--
>David Ross
>www.tinkfrog.com
>www.theBirdZoo.com
>www.CostaRicanBirds.com
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Subject: Re: Carolinas Nature Sound Workshop/Conference in March, May
or June, 2007
From: BILL HILTON JR The Piedmont Naturalist <hilton(AT)hiltonpond.org>
Date: 10 May 2006 7:33pm
I like Robin's suggestion of Congaree National Park just outside
Columbia SC. It would be a ways to go for some of the North Carolina
contingent but is central for South Carolinians and has easy access
by everyone via Interstate highways. MapQuest says it's right at four
hours from downtown Durham to Congaree headquarters.
I think those folks who have never been to Congaree would be
astounded at the habitat--to say nothing of the abundance of birds
available for recording. The place IS noisy, but it's almost all
natural sounds. :-)
Cheers,
BILL
>Mason Farm at UNC would also be a good location. It's proximate to
>Jordan Lake, as well...
>
>Fred Houk
>Chatham County
>
>>From: "David Ross" <dlrossjr(AT)gmail.com>
>>To: "Robin Carter" <rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com>
>>CC: "Doug Pratt" <Doug.Pratt(AT)ncmail.net>, "Chris Hill"
>><chill(AT)kingfish.coastal.edu>, "William Majoros"
>><bmajoros(AT)duke.edu>, "John Grego" <jrgrego(AT)mindspring.com>, "Irvin
>>Pitts" <ipitts(AT)scprt.com>, "Fred Houk"
>><woodthrush2263(AT)hotmail.com>, "Walter Knapp"
>><wwknapp(AT)mindspring.com>, "J. M. Lynch" <jmlynch(AT)earthlink.net>,
>>"John Cely" <jecely(AT)sc.rr.com>, "Caroline Eastman"
>><ceastman(AT)sc.rr.com>, "Naturerecordists(AT)Yahoogroups.Com"
>><naturerecordists(AT)yahoogroups.com>, CarolinaBirds
>><carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
>>Subject: Re: Carolinas Nature Sound Workshop/Conference in March,
>>May or June, 2007
>>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 10:39:06 -0400
>>
>>Sound Enthusiast,
>>
>>Been away from gmail for a while..
>>
>>A workshop sounds great, especially if there is enough interest.
>>Cornell's Lab of O. has been running field courses for decades. They
>>were filled with information on technique, equip, archives,
>>documentation, etc.. but the true strength, and lasting value (at
>>least in my experience) was in the time in the field working with
>>experienced people, and then later listening to our efforts. So I
>>would suggest focusing on the recording side.
>>
>>I live in Durham, and frankly the triangle, it is a very, very noisy
>>place. It is simply impossible to pretend to escape masking noise,
>>near Duke, Durham and the surroundings. Lots of great roads, and RDU.
>>
>>The NC State Hill Experimental Forest in Northern Durham County, is
>>still noisy but maybe acceptable--not sure how much lodging they have
>>their, There has been some recent logging, but there is the a nice
>>forest in the form of an absolute preserve of mesic forest near the
>>Flat River, and a few other spots nearby, including ponds and fields.
>>They do run a 10 week forestry field course there.
>>
>>The Congaree, is still fairly close to a busy enough road, and has the
>>usual planes trains and autos, but its better noise-wise than the
>>triangle. It also has the draw of being "The Congaree".
>>
>>Have any mountain-folk weighed in on this?
>>
>>
>>Dave Ross
>>
>>On 4/3/06, Robin Carter <rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com> wrote:
>>>Greetings all,
>>>
>>>Many emails have been kicking around recently about having a nature sound
>>>recording workshop or small conference somewhere in the Carolinas as soon as
>>>possible. Several suggestions have been made. Here is my overview of what we
>>>have suggested.
>>>
>>>1. The meeting should be technical, but open to beginners. We need some
>>>hands-on instruction for beginners, but it would also be good to have a
>>>paper session and perhaps even a guest speaker.
>>>
>>>2. It would be good to schedule this meeting sometime when birds and frogs
>>>are calling, but not during April or early May (since birders are already
>>>booked solid during those times).
>>>
>>>3. It would be good to have a more or less central location in North
>>>Carolina or South Carolina for this meeting.
>>>
>>>4. The meeting should last about two or three days, perhaps over a weekend
>>>(Friday through Sunday morning).
>>>
>>>Various suggestions have been made for time and place. June seems to be the
>>>preferred month (but late May or March would also work). Two main venues
>>>have been suggested -- Duke University and Congaree National Park. Duke
>>>would have good conference facilities, but so would Congaree National Park.
>>>At Congaree NP the recording practicum could be held only a short walk from
>>>the meeting place.
>>>
>>>I have started preliminary inquiries into having such a workshop at Congaree
>>>National Park in March, late May or early June, 2007. It is far too late to
>>>get anything organized for this year (2006).
>>>
>>>Other times or places might work. There is some appeal in going to the
>>>mountains. We might be able to schedule something earlier on the coast in
>>>winter. Even Congaree NP would be good for a winter conference since there
>>>is quite a nice soundscape in winter in the park.
>>>
>>>Now is the time for making your opinions and ideas known. Please feel free
>>>to forward this to anyone who might be interested.
>>>
>>>Robin Carter
>>>Columbia, SC USA
>>>mailto:rcarter(AT)sc.rr.com
>>>
>>
>>David Ross
>>www.tinkfrog.com
>>www.theBirdZoo.com
>>www.CostaRicanBirds.com
--
BILL HILTON JR., Executive Director
Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History
1432 DeVinney Road, York, South Carolina 29745 USA
hilton(AT)hiltonpond.org, (803) 684-5852, eFax: (503) 218-0845
The mission of Hilton Pond Center for Piedmont Natural History is "to
conserve plants, animals, habitats, and other natural components of
the Piedmont Region of the eastern United States through observation,
scientific study, and education for students of all ages." Please
visit our web sites (courtesy of Comporium.net) at
http://www.hiltonpond.org and http://www.rubythroat.org ("Operation
RubyThroat: The Hummingbird Project").
"Never trust a person too lazy to get up for sunrise or too busy to
watch the sunset." BHjr.
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Subject: Re: Sprague's Pipit vs. Juvenile Horned Lark
From: Harry LeGrand <harry.legrand(AT)ncmail.net>
Date: 10 May 2006 8:12pm
Kent Fiala wrote:
> Dave is feeling too embarrassed to allow me to post his photos on the
> CBC web site. However I feel that we should give him credit for getting
> the birds correctly identified. Too often on carolinabirds we see cases
> where someone simply reports seeing an unusual bird by giving its name
> and no other details. Sometimes people even get in a huff over being
> asked for more details. This could have been another case where Dave
> simply said "I saw Sprague's Pipits" and that would be that. But he
> persevered and got evidence that he shared with other interested
> parties, and the identification was resolved. We need more of this.
>
> Even though you may not be able to see Dave's photos, if you follow
> those links that I sent Will, you will see birds that look pretty much
> identical. Would you have identified them correctly?
>
> Kent Fiala
> Chapel Hill Township, NC
>
>
>
>
As NC Bird Records Committee chair, I'm glad that photos were taken, and
the true and correct identity as juvenile Horned Larks was made.
Were photo field guides used? The Kaufman guide, on page 263, has a
nice photo of juvenile Horned Lark on the same page as pipits and
Skylark. When making ID's of difficult species, including immature
gulls, shorebirds, etc., use of photographs is a big help. Too often, I
feel, folks rely on National Geo., Sibley, or Peterson guides -- i.e.,
paintings only. It's good to remember to use Kaufman, The Master guide,
Stokes' guides, and specialty photo guides of gulls, hawks, etc. -- and,
try "Googling" the species to see many other photos on websites.
Harry LeGrand
Raleigh, NC
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Subject: Warbler migrants in Person County, NC
From: Harry LeGrand <harry.legrand(AT)ncmail.net>
Date: 10 May 2006 8:30pm
Folks:
There must have been a good input of migrants last night, as I heard
singing several species I don't usually encounter much anymore around
the lower Piedmont. I spent 6 hours working along the Tar River in
Person Co., NC, today (May 10). I heard a Cerulean, a Canada, a
Chestnut-sided, and a Blackpoll (last bird not scarce). I also heard at
least 6 Kentucky Warblers, probably all on their breeding grounds. A
Rose-breasted Grosbeak was singing also. Alas, I heard or saw no migrant
thrushes; numbers of these birds -- Swainson's, Gray-cheeked, and
Veery, along with Wood Thrushes -- have plunged in recent decades. (I
did have several Wood Thrushes, likely on their territories.) My
favorite sighting was a female Wood Duck being followed closely by three
recently-fledged ducklings, on a beaver-impounded portion of the river.
Harry LeGrand
Raleigh, NC
[ << | >> | ^^ ]
Subject: Balsam Mountains spring count
From: mjwestphal <mjwestphal(AT)unca.edu>
Date: 10 May 2006 9:32pm
Last call for anyone interested in participating in the Great Balsam/Plott
Balsam Mountains IBA spring bird count on Saturday, May 20th. This includes
the high elevation areas between Mount Pisgah and the Smokies. I could use a
few more people, especially if you have some birding by ear skills and like
hiking. I need some folks to cover some of the trails in the Shining Rock
Wilderness. Let me know ASAP.
Thanks,
Marilyn
Marilyn Westphal
Environmental Quality Institute
University of North Carolina-Asheville
One University Heights
Asheville, NC 28804
828/251-6823
mjwestphal(AT)unca.edu
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