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Subject: Sunday hunting comments due
From: "liz lathrop" <lizbirder(AT)cconnect.net>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 7:46am
From the Raleigh News & Observer today ...
"Today is the final day to submit comments on Sunday hunting as the NC
Wildlife Resources Commission wraps up a comprehensive study and
prepares to start a second, specific study of allowing Sunday hunting on
a limited number of state game lands.
In NC, hunting on Sunday is prohibited by state law except on some
military installations where the federal government has exclusive
jurisdiction. The ban has been in effect since 1869."
To add your comments today, go online to www.ncwildlife.org -- look
under Features for Sunday Hunting Comments.
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Subject: Re: Sunday hunting comments due
From: "Phil Dickinson" <pdickins(AT)triad.rr.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 8:59am
An historical note on the Sunday hunting ban: The 1869 ban was a "Jim Crow"
creation designed principally to stop African-American sharecroppers and
tenant farmers from procuring their own food on their day off, thus making
them more dependent upon whites. It is interesting how the issue of Sunday
hunting has evolved.
Phil Dickinson
Winston-Salem
----- Original Message -----
From: "liz lathrop" <lizbirder(AT)cconnect.net>
To: <carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 7:46 AM
Subject: Sunday hunting comments due
>
> From the Raleigh News & Observer today ...
>
> "Today is the final day to submit comments on Sunday hunting as the NC
> Wildlife Resources Commission wraps up a comprehensive study and prepares
> to start a second, specific study of allowing Sunday hunting on a limited
> number of state game lands.
>
> In NC, hunting on Sunday is prohibited by state law except on some
> military installations where the federal government has exclusive
> jurisdiction. The ban has been in effect since 1869."
>
> To add your comments today, go online to www.ncwildlife.org -- look under
> Features for Sunday Hunting Comments.
>
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Subject: BERMUDA PETREL off Hatteras Aug. 28; Space this weekend
From: "J. BRIAN PATTESON" <patteson1(AT)mindspring.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 10:09am
Carolinabirders,
I was out to the Gulf Stream on Monday w/ a private charter, not
strictly birding all day, but looking carefully at the birds we saw and
keeping tally. About 30 miles southeast of Hatteras Inlet we
encountered a Bermuda Petrel, and I was able to get a few photos. The
best of these are probably on film, which is not yet back to me from the
lab, but I did post a cropped digital shot on our home page at
http://www.seabirding.com/. This is the third encounter with Bermuda
Petrel on my boat this year, but the first photographed. The first
sighting (in May) was moderately distant in rough seas and the second
one (in June) was brief and distant.
August was good for Pterodromas and tropicbirds- a light morph Herald
(Trindade) Petrel on August 5, a dark morph Herald on August 6, a Fea's
Petrel on August 12 (in 40 fathoms!), and White-tailed Tropicbirds on
August 13 and 19. We also saw a Magnificent Frigatebird in the Gulf
Stream on August 6, which is more of a rarity for that locale than any
of the aforementioned species!
I had hoped to run two or three trips this weekend, but it looks like we
will only be running one, and that will be on Sunday, September 3. For
some reason, Labor Day weekend has for years been a hard one to book,
despite the fact that birding can be quite good w/ chances to see most
of the species we see in July and August, plus a better chance for
Long-tailed Jaeger and Sabine's Gull. When I started running trips here
in the early 90's it was a more popular time to go, but I suppose storm
patterns since the mid 90's onward have discouraged some people from
signing up for these trips. Anyhow, as of last night, I was told that
some rooms were still available at Cape Pines Motel (and perhaps
elsewhere) for this weekend.
Sunday's forecast is for light southerly winds. There is plenty of
space available and it should be a good time for Bridled and Sooty
Terns, which are less predictable earlier in the summer. This might
also be the last open boat birding trip down here for a few weeks, as I
am more inclined to take a charter than hold a date open for weeks and
have five or six people sign up, which has sometimes been the case this
summer. Our charter rates are actually quite reasonable, so if you can
round up a group of eight or ten people, it is not much more than our
regular birding trips and possibly still less money than an all day West
Coast trip. We are still open for charter next weekend as well as Sept.
16. Soon after that we will probably take the boat up to Va. to look
for White-faced Storm Petrel and return to Hatteras in early October.
Brian Patteson
Hatteras, NC
brian(AT)patteson.com
http://www.seabirding.com/
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Subject: Sunday Hunting Comment
From: "John Ennis" <swampwolf(AT)thebusinessbirder.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 10:08am
FYI
I just submitted the following comment:
I think the law should remain as is...no Sunday hunting...wildlife need a
rest...and it would limit my outdoor activities on Sundays during hunting
season due to concerns about being hit by a stray bullet...
There are, however, many costs to Sunday hunting that must be borne by
society, government and/or individuals...
Sunday hunting would increase the number of forest fires, increase the need
for enforcement, and may increase the number of deer/auto collisions...this
latter concern is already a huge issue...
My feeling is that Wildlife Resources Enforcement may not be doing an
adequate job of enforcement now due to lack of funding (so I have been told
by hunters) and adding another day would only strain the already limited
resources...
John Ennis
Leland, NC
910-371-9729
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Subject: Warblers really moving in WNC
From: "Simon Thompson" <simont(AT)charter.net>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 11:31am
C-birders
A wet rainy start to the day here in Asheville, but my front garden (lots of
tall spruces, flowering plums and other bird-attracting shrubs) had a great
flock of warblers etc moving though this morning.
Best were Bay-breast, Tennessee, Prairie (not common here at all), Hooded,
Blackburnian, Chestnut-side etc. Also watched mixed flock mobbing a roosting
Common Nighthawk - and it's still August - just!
Talking of warblers, we still have space on our 2 upcoming day trips:
9/17- birding, butterflying at Grovestone Quarry near Asheville
9/27 - Blue Ridge Birding with Dwayne Martin
Just let us know if you would like to join us.
Simon
Simon Thompson
Ventures Birding and Nature Tours
PO Box 1095
Skyland, NC 28776
Phone: 828.253.4247
Travel AT birdventures.com
www.birdventures.com
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Subject: RE: Sunday Hunting Comment
From: "Doss, John M CIV USA USAIMA" <john.m.doss(AT)us.army.mil>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 1:48pm
I respectfully disagree with John E.
" Sunday hunting would increase the number of forest fires, increase the
need
for enforcement, and may increase the number of deer/auto
collisions...this
latter concern is already a huge issue..."
I have a tough time seeing a connection between any of these statements
and hunting. First off, most hunters have a 9-5, Mon-Fri job. Weekends
are the only time they can get out. Opening hunting in certain state
game lands on Sunday would actually boost license for those that don't
think it is worth the money to purchase a license and only be able to us
it one day a week. I'm a DOD civ employee and am allowed to hunt on
Sundays here, but I know for a fact that our Wildlife Branches hunting
permit sales would go up if none civilian employees could hunt on Sunday
and a little rational thought would extend it to the entire state.
Most of these hunters do not live next door to where they plan to hunt,
so they get off work Friday and have to travel to their hunting
location. This eats up even more time and limits more potential hunters
from enjoying their outdoor activities.
An increase in forest fire is a mute point. Many states do allow Sunday
hunting and there are no numbers that point to an increase of forest
fires due to Sunday hunting. Even in our own state there is nothing to
show that there is a difference between forest fire on Sat (hunting) vs.
Sun (no hunting) during the hunting season.
There is no increase in the need for law enforcement. The law officers
are out there on Sunday rather there is hunting or not. They are still
out there on Sundays looking for poachers, illegal dumpers, ect... What
Sunday hunting would do is boost the revenues used to pay these people.
Not only would there be an increase in license sales, but also an
increase in everything associated with hunting (bullets, guns, camo,
ect...) which would add additional funds through the P&R act that then
filter back down to the states from the Federal government. A lot of
this money is why we have state game lands and is the major contributor
of conservation projects which not only help game species, but also
no-game species such as the avian population we care so much for.
With the deer/auto collision rate increase, please reread the forest
fire section since the same rational applies here to.
I really do not see any reason not to have Sunday hunting. We would be
shooting our selves in the foot by not wanting it. Those dollars are
the exact same dollars that go into creating and protecting the lands we
love so much. This is a way to increase the outdoors budget for our
state and I see no logic in saying no to something that will bring more
dollars in that are are protected by law and must be spent on
conservation. Some people might not chose to hunt on Sunday due to
religious reasons and I respect that, but that is their choice not to
hunt on Sunday and should not be law.
Sorry for the tirade and being off subject for this forum, but this is
something I feel strongly about. Some might remember to the letter I
wrote back when this issue came up a year or so ago. I do believe in
what I'm saying.
Have a good day!
John M. Doss
Wildlife Biologist
DPTM - Range Control Division
Fort Bragg, North Carolina
(910) 396-7971 office
(910) 432-8531 fax
john.m.doss(AT)us.army.mil
-----Original Message-----
From: carolinabirds-owner(AT)acpub.duke.edu
[mailto:carolinabirds-owner(AT)acpub.duke.edu] On Behalf Of John Ennis
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 10:08 AM
To: carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu
Subject: Sunday Hunting Comment
FYI
I just submitted the following comment:
I think the law should remain as is...no Sunday hunting...wildlife need
a
rest...and it would limit my outdoor activities on Sundays during
hunting
season due to concerns about being hit by a stray bullet...
There are, however, many costs to Sunday hunting that must be borne by
society, government and/or individuals...
Sunday hunting would increase the number of forest fires, increase the
need
for enforcement, and may increase the number of deer/auto
collisions...this
latter concern is already a huge issue...
My feeling is that Wildlife Resources Enforcement may not be doing an
adequate job of enforcement now due to lack of funding (so I have been
told
by hunters) and adding another day would only strain the already limited
resources...
John Ennis
Leland, NC
910-371-9729
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Subject: Ernesto and birding
From: mike johnson <lists(AT)webfargo.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 4:12pm
With Ernesto coming through what would be the best strategy to find some
unusual and as important a good variety of birds? I'm not looking for
anything in particular just a good variety and potentially something
unusual for NC.
Should one bird around central NC where the storm is coming through, go to
the mountains or the beach? Any specifically recommended sites are welcome.
Thanks in advance!
mike johnson
burlington,nc
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Subject: Re: Ernesto and birding
From: "J. BRIAN PATTESON" <patteson1(AT)mindspring.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 4:43pm
Mike,
Logistics and safety are always the first considerations for storm
birding. If you are on the coast, be aware that some areas might be
cordoned off by law enforcement or made inaccessible by high water. As
one gets farther from the coast, swollen creeks and rivers might get you
trapped and fallen trees and powerlines can be a real problem. So you
need to look at that before you set out for an area only to find
yourself unable to reach it or unable to get back home readily. Poor
planning could leave you "out to lunch" as it were.
Wherever you go, time is of the essence. Some storm blown species,
notably Sooty Terns, will not stay long after it clears a bit. Inland,
large lakes and dams are good places to check. On the coast it's a bit
harder b/c there are so many places which might be productive. Often
the sounds, rivers, and inlets can all be productive, particularly if
there is a bridge or causeways which keep the birds penned in, and big
open areas like ball fields and parking lots might be good places to
look for resting gulls, terns, skimmers and such.
Good luck, and be safe.
Brian Patteson
Hatteras
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike johnson" <lists(AT)webfargo.com>
To: <carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:12 PM
Subject: Ernesto and birding
>
> With Ernesto coming through what would be the best strategy to find
some
> unusual and as important a good variety of birds? I'm not looking for
> anything in particular just a good variety and potentially something
> unusual for NC.
>
> Should one bird around central NC where the storm is coming through,
go to
> the mountains or the beach? Any specifically recommended sites are
welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> mike johnson
> burlington,nc
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> www.webfargo.com
> CCDA CCNA CCSA CCSE MCP+I MCSE
>
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Subject: Chatham Co. Fall Count - 9/16
From: "Will Cook" <cwcook(AT)duke.edu>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 4:42pm
The most exciting time of the year for birding is here - Fall! If
you enjoy identifying confusing fall warblers, or just need an excuse
to get out and do some birding, come join us for the 11th annual
Chatham County (NC) fall bird count. There are many great birding
spots around Jordan Lake -- let me know what your favorite area is
and I'll assign you to that, if it's still available. Other parts of
Chatham County are virtually unexplored for birding -- if you're
adventurous, you can try to find a new birding hotspot.
Last year we had a nice showing of shorebirds:
http://chbc.carolinanature.com/ccf05res.html
I don't think we're going to be getting the shorebirds this year,
especially if the tropical storm comes through. The year before we
had some interesting storm-blown birds:
http://chbc.carolinanature.com/ccf04res.html
Who knows what we'll turn up this year?
Forms and results of past counts are on the Chapel Hill Bird Club web
site: http://chbc.carolinanature.com/
Just send me an e-mail to sign up.
Thanks!
Will
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Charles W. "Will" Cook w 919-660-5144
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook cwcook(AT)duke.edu
Box 90340, Biology Dept., Duke Univ., Durham, NC 27708
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Subject: Re: Ernesto and birding
From: "Steve" <scompton(AT)sc.rr.com>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 4:48pm
Mike and storm birders,
Inland lakes have been productive during and after storms
over the years. I hope to visit the Orangeburg,SC sodfarm Saturday for
migrant shorebirds. If weather permits, a safe coastal location might yield
a passing pelagic species. Whatever you chose, SAFETY FIRST!
Don't challenge big wind and don't drive through extensive standing water.
Steve Compton
Summerville,SC
scompton(AT)sc.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "mike johnson" <lists(AT)webfargo.com>
To: <carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 31, 2006 4:12 PM
Subject: Ernesto and birding
>
> With Ernesto coming through what would be the best strategy to find some
> unusual and as important a good variety of birds? I'm not looking for
> anything in particular just a good variety and potentially something
> unusual for NC.
>
> Should one bird around central NC where the storm is coming through, go to
> the mountains or the beach? Any specifically recommended sites are
> welcome.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
>
> mike johnson
> burlington,nc
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> www.webfargo.com
> CCDA CCNA CCSA CCSE MCP+I MCSE
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Subject: Re: Ernesto and birding
From: "Will Cook" <cwcook(AT)duke.edu>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 5:52pm
On 31 Aug 2006 at 16:12, mike johnson wrote:
> With Ernesto coming through what would be the best strategy to find some
> unusual and as important a good variety of birds? I'm not looking for
> anything in particular just a good variety and potentially something
> unusual for NC.
>
> Should one bird around central NC where the storm is coming through, go to
> the mountains or the beach? Any specifically recommended sites are welcome.
In the Piedmont, the best strategy is to head to the nearest large
lake (e.g. Jordan Lake, Falls Lake, or Kerr Lake) close to the center
of rotation of the tropical system (if you can get there safely).
I'd concentrate on spots that have a good view of the lake (e.g.
Ebenezer Point, the US 64 bridge, the Farrington Rd. bridge, or the
751 bridge) and watch for birds flying by.
As Brian mentioned, it's important to get there the day of the storm.
Most storm-blown birds will be gone by the next day.
The birds from Ernesto won't be on the same order of magnitude, but
since we're almost at the 10-year anniversary of Hurricane Fran, I
thought folks might enjoy reading a couple of messages I sent to
Birdchat (below). This was pre-Carolinabirds, so I've never posted
it here before. What a day!
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Date: Fri, 6 Sep 1996 23:42:49 -0400
From: "Charles W. Cook"
Subject: Hurricane Fran birds - NC
Here's what was seen in the wake of Hurricane Fran on 9/6/96 in
north-central North Carolina. Several of the best birders in the Raleigh
area were forced to stay home and clean up the mess, but for those of us
who made it out, it was like a day at the beach. Species in all caps are
firsts for the area. An asterisk after the species indicates a first
county record. An asterisk after the number indicates a record high count
for the county. I spent most of the day at Jordan Lake and tried to keep
a conservative count. I haven't heard specific totals for many of the
species at Falls Lake, but there were large numbers of Laughing Gulls and
terns.
Jordan Lake, Chatham Co., NC
(several observers)
BLACK-CAPPED PETREL* - 1
AUDUBON'S SHEARWATER* - 1
LEACH'S STORM-PETREL* - 1
Storm-Petrel sp. - 1 I'm not sure of all the details (I didn't see it),
but this bird had a white belly and dark undertail coverts. The observers
speculated that it might be a Fregetta sp. We'll be looking for it
tomorrow!
Black-bellied Plover - 15
Semipalmated Plover - 3
Willet - 3* (previous record high 2)
Marbled Godwit - 4* (previous record high 1)
Ruddy Turnstone - 1
Sanderling - 22
Semipalmated Sandpiper - 2
Buff-breasted Sandpiper - 1
Red-necked Phalarope - 40* (previous record high 1)
Parasitic Jaeger - 1 (second record)
Laughing Gull - 232* (previous record high 9)
Ring-billed Gull - 1
Herring Gull - 4
Great Black-backed - 2* (previous record high 1)
Caspian Tern - 14
Royal Tern - 91* (previous record high 2 with Hurricane Hugo)
SANDWICH TERN* - 6
Common Tern - 19
Forster's Tern - 14
LEAST TERN* - 6
BRIDLED TERN* - 1
Sooty Tern - 1 (there were 3 on 9/22/89 after Hugo)
Black Tern - 23
Black Skimmer - 6 (two previous records of 1)
Falls Lake, Durham/Wake Co., NC
(several observers)
SOOTY SHEARWATER* - 1
Red-necked Phalarope - 20* (previous record high 1)
Laughing Gull
Herring Gull
Great Black-backed Gull
Caspian Tern
Royal Tern
SANDWICH TERN*
Common Tern
Forster's Tern
LEAST TERN*
Black Tern
Chapel Hill Country Club golf course pond, Orange Co., NC
(Will Cook)
Laughing Gull* - 110
Forster's Tern - 2
Black Tern - 6*
Black Skimmer* - 1
Lesser Yellowlegs - 1
Pectoral Sandpiper - 1
Carrboro, Orange Co., NC
(Todd Hass)
Mississippi Kite - 1
Harris Lake, Wake Co., NC
(David Wright, Taylor Piephoff, Judy Walker, et al.)
Sooty Tern* - 1
That's all for now. I hope some of those Kerr Lake (Virginia) birds
(Sabine's Gull, Fea's Petrel) head our way on their way back to sea!
--------------------------------
Date: Sat, 7 Sep 1996 14:40:14 -0400
From: "Charles W. Cook"
Subject: Re: Hurricane Fran birds - NC
We went back to Jordan Lake, Chatham Co., NC, today (Saturday September 7)
to see if any hurricane birds were still lingering. Except for about 20
Black Terns and a few Forster's (which are normal migrants here), ALL the
hurricane birds left during the night. Not a single Laughing Gull, Royal
Tern, or shorebird (except for the usual Killdeer & Spotted Sandpiper).
Here are a few additions to yesterday's list from Falls Lake, Durham/Wake
Co., NC:
Sooty Tern - 3 (I think 2 ad., 1 juv.)
Bridled Tern - 1
Marbled Godwit - 1
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Charles W. "Will" Cook w 919-660-5144
http://www.duke.edu/~cwcook cwcook(AT)duke.edu
Box 90340, Biology Dept., Duke Univ., Durham, NC 27708
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Subject: Probable Rufous Hummingbird in North Augusta
From: "Lois" <croakie(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 6:27pm
I have a banded, female Selaphorous hummingbird in my yard and I think it's
the same bird that was here last winter and probably the same the year
before. This is 6 weeks before last year's show-up date which was 6 weeks
before the year before! Apparently (assuming it's the same bird) she really
likes my yard.
Lois Stacey
North Augusta, SC (Aiken Cnty)
croakie(AT)comcast.net
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Subject: Juv.Magnificant Frigatebird
From: "Dennis Forsythe" <dennis.forsythe(AT)citadel.edu>
Date: 31 Aug 2006 7:16pm
Billy McCord emailed me to say there was an immmature Frigatenbird at Ft.
Johnson, Charleston Co., SC this morning. I missed it as usual.
Dennis
Dennis M. Forsythe PhD, PA
Emeritus Professor of Biology
The Citadel
171 Moultrie St
Charleston, SC 29409
843-795-3996 Home
843-953-7264 Fax
843-708-1605 Cell
dennis.forsythe(AT)citadel.edu
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