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Subject: How do dey do dat?
From: "fred" <fredhouk(AT)bellsouth.net>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 2:54am
Hi, Susan...
Is there a way to best attract orioles in winter...jelly in some kind of
special container, or an orange colored nectar feeder?
I'm clueless...just ask my wife.
BTW...I used up 115 pounds of sugar this year, which matches my all-time
high, despite starting the year so late, and so sparsely.
Amazing year, really. Never got the impression that the actual number of
birds was quite as high as previous years, but they seemed to need/want the
sugar syrup more than other years. Might have been something to do with a
clear dearth of some insects this summer (perhaps the drought/deluge
cycles?)
Fred Houk
Chatham County
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Subject: Re: The loneliest bird, in the whole USA...
From: "fred" <fredhouk(AT)bellsouth.net>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 3:13am
Response to an email from fellow Carolinabirds participant Anne Lurie... I
think the gist of this might be of interest to the rest of the chatlist. I
won't include her email, since I haven't asked permission...she offered some
interesting comments on my question about guesstimating hummingbird numbers
from sugar useage. Here is my response:
Hi, Anne...thanks for emailing me.
Actually, I was hoping somebody with an ornithological bent would do the
"math" for me...I did it previously, and came up with some ratio of the
weight of the syrup (1 part sugar to four parts water) to the "normal"
useage of a hummingbird, averaged out over the summer...it's kinda like
playing three dimensional chess.
Remember, the birds weigh something like five grams, and the only thing I've
ever read about their ability to consume was that they could eat "up to
their body weight" each day.
I presume, being in the deep woods, that "normal" birds also eat a lot of
other stuff...bugs, mostly. And that they come and go, over the summer.
And that they have young, who don't eat the same as adults....and...and...
(You get the picture.)
My guesstimate a few years ago had me with hundreds of hummingbirds, on
average, and in toto, and I've always wondered if that could possibly be
correct. On some days, for sure, I can guesstimate over a hundred at a time
(although not the entire day, of course) just by trying to count them, and
extrapolation. But those days are compacted into a few weeks, and the
average numbers of birds is not symetrical all year, nor predictable.
Hence my use of sugar as a starting point to figure out numbers.
It's also a tad problematic from year to year, as some summers have more
bugs, and others more drought, etc.
Also, I ain't that bright...
Fred Houk
Chatham County
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Subject: Hummers
From: "kaye fenlon" <ktfenlon(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 10:16am
We still have several hummers at all 4 of our feeders....definitely more
than I ever have had this late. I too thought this week's cool mornings
would send them on their way. Sept.14 our last male left, but on Sept. 21
another male was at the front kitchen window feeder. He is still here
guarding it this morning! I'll have to check them all now to see if a
Rufous is back too.
My Mother in southern Ohio had a male come through after all her males had
been gone for 10 days.
Have a good birding weekend,
Katie Fenlon
Clemson, SC
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Subject: Re: The loneliest bird, in the whole USA...
From: "Anne Lurie" <alurie(AT)nc.rr.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 10:37am
BTW,
When I re-read my response to Fred, it was painfully obvious that I had
simply misunderstood his original post! Sorry about that!
I'm determined, however, to make some attempt to keep track of the sugar I
use to feed hummers.
Anne Lurie
Raleigh, NC
alurie(AT)nc.rr.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "fred" <fredhouk(AT)bellsouth.net>
To: "Anne Lurie" <alurie(AT)nc.rr.com>; "carolinabirds"
<carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 3:13 AM
Subject: Re: The loneliest bird, in the whole USA...
> Response to an email from fellow Carolinabirds participant Anne Lurie... I
> think the gist of this might be of interest to the rest of the chatlist.
> I won't include her email, since I haven't asked permission...she offered
> some interesting comments on my question about guesstimating hummingbird
> numbers from sugar useage. Here is my response:
>
> Hi, Anne...thanks for emailing me.
>
> Actually, I was hoping somebody with an ornithological bent would do the
> "math" for me...I did it previously, and came up with some ratio of the
> weight of the syrup (1 part sugar to four parts water) to the "normal"
> useage of a hummingbird, averaged out over the summer...it's kinda like
> playing three dimensional chess.
>
> Remember, the birds weigh something like five grams, and the only thing
> I've ever read about their ability to consume was that they could eat "up
> to their body weight" each day.
>
> I presume, being in the deep woods, that "normal" birds also eat a lot of
> other stuff...bugs, mostly. And that they come and go, over the summer.
> And that they have young, who don't eat the same as adults....and...and...
>
> (You get the picture.)
>
> My guesstimate a few years ago had me with hundreds of hummingbirds, on
> average, and in toto, and I've always wondered if that could possibly be
> correct. On some days, for sure, I can guesstimate over a hundred at a
> time (although not the entire day, of course) just by trying to count
> them, and extrapolation. But those days are compacted into a few weeks,
> and the average numbers of birds is not symetrical all year, nor
> predictable.
>
> Hence my use of sugar as a starting point to figure out numbers.
>
> It's also a tad problematic from year to year, as some summers have more
> bugs, and others more drought, etc.
>
> Also, I ain't that bright...
>
> Fred Houk
> Chatham County
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Subject: Cowbirds
From: "KC Foggin" <KCFoggin(AT)sc.rr.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 10:42am
Had a good number of Cowbirds land in the yard this a.m. :(
KC Foggin
Socastee
Myrtle Beach SC
www.birdforum.net
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Subject: Re: Double message posting
From: <lmontpitt2(AT)bellsouth.net>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 10:58am
Mine come double.
Lisa Montgomery
Charlotte NC
----- Original Message -----
From: "Buddy Garrett" <medxam(AT)ncfreedom.net>
To: "carolinabirds" <carolinabirds(AT)duke.edu>
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 10:38 PM
Subject: Double message posting
> My inquiry about double posting of messages to Carolina Birds came
> through twice with the same posting time and I only posted once. This
> has been going on for at least a week!
>
> Buddy Garrett
>
> --
> Charles L. (Buddy) Garrett, MD
> 132 Dockside Drive
> Jacksonville, NC 28546
> medxam(AT)onslowonline.net
> H-910-577-6776
> O-910-577-2286
> C-910-389-0858
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Subject: Hummers & Goldfinches
From: Michael Logue <mlogue(AT)madison.main.nc.us>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 11:57am
We still have a fair amount of Hummers, the recent cold weather
didn't seem to faze them. As for the goldfinches, they seem to be
going through 10 pounds of niger a week, so I am willing to share
with anyone who wants some of them. The last time I went through
niger at such a rate was several years ago when we had scads of Pine
Siskins. They used to ring the yard in the tops of the trees when
they weren't feeding. They were so feisty that they practically
drove away the Goldfinches.
Upper Spring Creek, Madison County, 3600'
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Subject: re: Ruffed Grouse Fearlessness - WAS Re: attack of the Blue
Jays
From: "Michael C. Parrish" <pendragon1998(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 1:16pm
I've had similar experiences with Ruffed Grouse in the mountains of W.
NC. I was driving up a dirt road and came across a pair (I assume
males) engaged in some mating season fighting. They were fairly aware
of the loud van I was in, but showed little regard for it due to their
concentration on each other. I wonder if the grouse Reece saw were in
a similar state of mind?
On the other hand, I've had so many encounters with exploding coveys
(is that the right word?) of grouse in the deep woods that I am sure
for the most part grouse which aren't acclimated to humans are still
pretty spook-able. For those of you who've had that happen to you in
the stillness of the woods, you understand how horrible that can be on
your heart!
~Michael
--- Reece Mitchell <reecejudy(AT)bellsouth.net> wrote:
> Ruffed Grouse are known to produce individuals that show no fear of
> humans. I've encountered two of these. One was so far back in the
> 'boonies" I much doubt it had had human contact when young.
> I had to shoo it off the trail.
> Don't suppose it had a long life.
> Reece
Michael C. Parrish
Watkinsville, GA (Oconee Co.)
http://parrishm.myweb.uga.edu/
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Subject: owl attacks
From: "Rob G." <thrush(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 4:42pm
unless I missed it no one has yet mentioned the article in today's News &
Observer about owl attacks in Chapel Hill apropos of recent discussion:
http://www.newsobserver.com/102/story/489891.html
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Subject: HBSP, 23 Sept 06
From: Steve Thomas <stype(AT)sccoast.net>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 3:56pm
We walked down to the jetty at Huntington Beach State Park and saw a
Reddish Egret on the sand bar at the inland side of the fenced bird
nesting enclosure - the only sighting we had that the Robin Carter
and/or the Jack Peachey parties didn't equal or better on 9/10.
The mink is still at the jetty.
Steve Thomas
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Stephen Thomas
Aynor, SC
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Subject: Evergreen Nature Preserve - 9/23/06
From: "Larry" <Larry(AT)lbarden.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 8:11pm
2 hours at Evergreen in urban Charlotte produced 35 species (sorry Ron)
including
Magnolia Warbler
Ovenbird
Tennessee Warbler
2 Rosebreasted Grosbeak
And of all things, a flyover Double crested Cormorant.
Cheers,
Larry
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Subject: Something I've never witnessed before
From: "KC Foggin" <KCFoggin(AT)sc.rr.com>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 8:24pm
Others might have seen this, but today was the first time for me to see a
Northern Cardinal eating off one of the suet feeders. Got herself quite a few
mouthfuls too.
KC Foggin
Socastee
Myrtle Beach SC
www.birdforum.net
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Subject: Caesars Head Hawk Watch - 9/23/06
From: "Jeff Catlin" <shieffcat(AT)bellsouth.net>
Date: 23 Sep 2006 8:42pm
Tough weather = tough counting!
We had more visitors than birds! 3 Broad-wings, 1 Osprey and a Peregrine
Falcon.
Visitors:
Skip Harrison from Sandersville, GA
Dee Dee Bonds from Inman, SC
Donna Caouette & Mark Wiencek from Boiling Springs, SC
Robert & Stephany Eaddy form Lake City, SC
Jeff & Suzi Heddleston and sons, from Taylors, SC
Robert & Sue Sutton from Sunset, SC
Wing Nuts: Chris Newton, Mitchell Rice, Tami King and me.
For daily and monthly summaries visit:
http://hawkcount.org/month_summary.php?rsite=551&go=Go+to+site
Jeff Catlin
Marietta, SC
jcatlin(AT)gcbirdclub.org
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