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ID-FRONTIERS for August 20-26, 2000

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 Subject From Date  Time 
 Bahrain gull pics  Martin Reid   Sun, 20 Aug 2000  8:28am 
 Re: Albatross: a conservative advocate  David James   Sun, 20 Aug 2000  7:28pm 
 Caspian Tern photos from UK  Martin Birch   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  1:40am 
 The Sibley Guide to Birds  Beth and Will Russel  Tue, 22 Aug 2000  7:01am 
 Re: The Sibley Guide to Birds  Bill Principe   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  7:23am 
 Re: The Sibley Guide to Birds  Bob Abrams   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  7:49am 
 Sibley Guide to Birds  Jennifer Hanson   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  9:07am 
 AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals  Andrew Kratter   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  9:42am 
 Grave  Campbell Colin MSM N  Tue, 22 Aug 2000  12:21pm 
 Re: Grave  Bill Principe   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  1:49pm 
 Re: Grave  Dave Rintoul   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  5:29pm 
 Re: Grave  Chris Sloan   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  5:19pm 
 Mystery Grouse Photo  Ryan Shaw   Tue, 22 Aug 2000  9:00pm 
 Re: Grave  Peter and Carol Wilk  Wed, 23 Aug 2000  3:44am 
 Re: AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals  Dick Newell   Wed, 23 Aug 2000  8:45pm 
 Re: AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals  Dick Newell   Thu, 24 Aug 2000  2:16am 
 Interesting Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida  Noel Wamer   Thu, 24 Aug 2000  2:11pm 
 Re: Interesting Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida  Florida Nature Tours  Thu, 24 Aug 2000  3:07pm 
 More Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida  Noel Wamer   Fri, 25 Aug 2000  8:55am 
 QRY: Ringed Plover ..C. hiaticula.. in E Canada/US?  James H. Barton  Fri, 25 Aug 2000  2:37pm 
 Manx Shearwater in Michigan  Allen T Chartier   Fri, 25 Aug 2000  4:14pm 
 Ringed Plover ..C. hiaticula.. in E Canada/US  norman van swelm   Sat, 26 Aug 2000  1:58pm 
 Re: [BIRDBAND] MANX SHEARWATER  Allen T Chartier   Sat, 26 Aug 2000  3:35pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Bahrain gull pics From: Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET> Date: 20 Aug 2000 8:28am Dear all, I have completed placing my photos of imms at the Bahrain gull page - there are one hundred individuals grouped in random order on six pages: http://www.martinreid.com/bahinx.html - any feedback would be appreciated (please tell me if you want the comments to be private or anonymous) - I am especially keen to get comments on the right-most bird of the four different adults - thank you. Martin Martin Reid upupa(AT)airmail.net http://www.martinreid.com or http://www.cyberramp.net/~upupa
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Albatross: a conservative advocate From: David James <dave-james(AT)BEYOND.NET.AU> Date: 20 Aug 2000 7:28pm Discussion of the Cordell albatross has been a bit brief, and there surely must be much more to say about it. I'd like to add a cautionary note (which means I probably won't help much!). I'm not really up on the group these days (and would like to be corrected/updated), but I have seen lots of adult and imm. cauta (1980's and early to mid 1990' s) and a handful of adult ONLY bulleri, salvini and eremita, early to mid 1990's in SE Aust., NZ and the Southern Ocean. The Cordell bird is clearly not bulleri on underwing pattern - enough said. So, cauta, steadi, salvini or eremita? In the 1980s the odd immature birds seen off Aust that resembled the Cordell bird were identified as salvini, based on the presence of entirely dark primaries without a pale wedge extending thru the bases of p9 to c. p6, and the extensively dark hood. I saw maybe 4-5 of these but not one since about '91. Myself and some others are no longer prepared to accept any of these as definite salvini, while other observers evidently still identify them as such. Some observers have reported that birds like the Cordell bird make up a small proportion of immatures seen offshore of cauta colonies in Tasmania, suggesting that they are POSSIBLY (even if unlikely) within the plumage range of cauta. So, what's the hard evidence? We know the field marks of adults because they return to the colonies, are easily photographed, and can be compared to birds seen at sea, there's plenty of skins, etc., so the suites of characters have long been known. For instance we know that adult cauta always show a pale wedge intruding into the base of the primaries and adult salvini and eremita never do. But does this hold up for immatures? Can young cauta or young steadi show totally dark primaries? Can anyone answer this one with evidence? Because of this gap, it's pretty difficult to identify a young salvini in Aust. because you can't be sure you're not looking at a dark cauta or maybe a steadi. Conversely, some observers in Aust. apparently identify birds like the Cordell bird as steadi, but I don't know their reasons. Just to confuse things more, there's plenty of debate about whether steadi differs at all from cauta. Darkish shy albatross seen and photographed off Chilli by Reid, Jaramillo etc. are evidently darker than typical cauta in Aust., and what we know of their movements support ID as salvini, but does this constitute sufficient grounds to call them salvini? Alvaro referred to the "imm salvini" photo 70 in Harrison (reproduced in Enticott & Tipling p.33:4)., but is this photo really a salvini? Why? As far as I can tell, the only grounds for eliminating eremita from the Cordell equation is the "not so dark head". How do we know that immature eremita can't have a head pattern like this, even if it seems unlikely? There is one fresh JUVENILE skin of eremita in Wellington (NMNZ) which i think is the only one anywhere; from memory (1992/3) it has a very extensive dark hood, little different from and adult but perhaps more smoky/smudgy?; and a dark grey bill with black tip. There are a few photos of adult eremita (Harrison 72,. Lindsey 1986 The Seabirds of Aust, P. 126; and especially a fantastic underwing shot in Harper & Kinsky 1977, p.20) . Even adults are difficult - the from s-e NSW, Aust. in Harrison pl. 71 and Enitcott & Tippling 33:6 is labelled as eremita but why isn't it salvini? Nevertheless, the Cordell bird is neither adult nor fresh juvenile. Maybe a year old, or 2? What effect would wear/molt have on the head pattern of eremita this age? The axillary notch or "thumbprint" seems pretty small and atypical for cauta, but what would the molt of 2-3 feathers do to the notch of any taxon in the cauta complex. The extra smudging on the leading edge of the hand and the shape of demarcation between back and rump (as pointed out by others) look promising for sorting out the cauta complex, but it is necessary to know the range that these characters can take in each of the 3-4 taxa before we can use them. Adult eremita and perhaps salvini might have slightly broader leading edges to the arm than cauta does, but this is pretty subtle, untested and who knows whether it is relevant to immatures? I suppose I could be interpreted as saying "you can't identify anything because maybe there's something we don't know (maybe there's some overlap between cauta and salvini)". Hopefully there are some answers to some of these issues that can dispel this position. Quite a few Aussies know more about it than I do, but not everyone is prepared to rave about the uncertain on the net. Thalasarche cauta ssp. seems safe; T. c. salvini is still the lead contender for my money, but I don't see that this can be proven on present knowledge. Hopefully, there's more information on these beasts out there somewhere. Good luck! David James PO BOX 5225 Townsville Mail Centre, Qld 4810, Australia ___________________________
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Caspian Tern photos from UK From: Martin Birch <martinb(AT)ACTIONAID.ORG.UK> Date: 22 Aug 2000 1:40am nice pics of Caspian Tern by British rare bird photographer Iain Leach on north-east coast of UK at the following url (http://www.surfbirds.com)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: The Sibley Guide to Birds From: Beth and Will Russell <russell(AT)RTD.COM> Date: 22 Aug 2000 7:01am A copy of David Sibley's book (The Sibley Guide to Birds) arrived on my porch late last week. As one of the technical reviewers, I had seen most of it in bits and pieces last summer but that dribble of black and white xeroxes didn't prepare me for the enormity of the final work. It's a tome, weighing more than two and one half pounds and measuring 9.75" x 6.5" x 1.5". According to the publisher, the 544 pages contain more than 6600 illustrations. In some respects, this is an idiosyncratic book and I suspect critics will find things that don't meet their favor, but none of this should or will alter the fact that North America now has a book where virtually every plate has images that look like real birds in much of their natural variation. The ID text is brief but succinct. These are plates to study; tiny features that can't command limited text space nonetheless routinely appear in the illustrations. I'm not sure when this book will reach bookstores. When it does, buy two copies. You'll wear one out... Will Russell
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: The Sibley Guide to Birds From: Bill Principe <ThePrincipes(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 22 Aug 2000 7:23am At 06:53 AM 8/22/2000 -0700, Will Russellwrote: >A copy of David Sibley's book (The Sibley Guide to Birds) arrived on >my porch late last week. As one of the technical reviewers, I had seen >most of it in bits and pieces last summer but that dribble of black and >white xeroxes didn't prepare me for the enormity of the final work. The Oxford English Dictionary defines "enormity" as "Deviation from moral or legal rectitude. Extreme or monstrous wickedness." I hope you didn't mean that.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: The Sibley Guide to Birds From: Bob Abrams <Icepeep(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 22 Aug 2000 7:49am I am sure it is, as we say in Boston, wicked good.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Sibley Guide to Birds From: Jennifer Hanson <ammodramus(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 22 Aug 2000 9:07am Hello Frontiers, I was under the impression that the Sibley guide volume of paintings was to be accompanied by another volume with a detailed text and black and white drawings. Does anyone know if this is still the case? The prepublication comments about the Sibley guide that I've seen so far (on this forum and UKBirdNet) have only described the volume with paintings and a "succinct" (as Will Russell put it) text. Many thanks, Jennifer Hanson Montclair, New Jersey USA ammodramus(AT)hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals From: Andrew Kratter <kratter(AT)FLMNH.UFL.EDU> Date: 22 Aug 2000 9:42am Frontiers-people As a member of the AOU Committee on Classification and Nomenclature (the Check-list Committee), I hope I can add some insight as to how I (and to some degree most or all the committee) determine "convincing published evidence." As most of you know we tend to hold the status quo until such evidence is published. The current committee has taken strides to avoid hastily splitting or lumping taxa, so that the check-list can maintain some stability amid the huge amount of new published data on taxonomy and systematics (all this is spelled out in the prefaces of the 7th edition and the 42nd supplement). On to teals.... Johnson and Sorenson (Auk 116:792-805, 1999) certainly present good evidence that crecca and carolinensis are separate species. The sequence divergence (5.8%) is certainly large for closely related taxa in North America (but bird "species" in Amazonia may approach this level of divergence), indicating that these two taxa have been evolving in genetic isolation for quite some time. However, there is no rule of thumb for how divergent two taxa have to be considered separate species, at least for those who follow the biological species concept. The point at which reproductive isolation arises is arbitrary along the continuum of genetic divergence. Conceivably, species could be reproductively isolated on the basis of a single base pair substitution, which would be almost undetectable by today's methods of sequencing only very small parts of the genome (result: two species in the BSC, maybe something like Anas cyanoptera and discors , Blue-winged and Cinnamon teals). On the other hand, two populations may be genetically isolated for long periods and only accumulate neutral substitutions that have no bearing on whether they are reproductively isolated (one species in the BSC). But with 5.8% sequence divergence, there is definitely a strong chance that some of this divergence will have bearing on reproductive isolation. There is also a problem of having paraphyletic taxa, because A. flavirostris (Speckled Teal of South America) and carolinensis are more closely related than crecca and carolinensis. However, I am not uncomfortable with some paraphyly at the species level. Such a situation could arise when you have two genetically isolated populations (A & B) , which are not reproductively isolated (e.g., Carolina Chickadees). Let's say that one of these populations (A) gives rise to a new population (A1) that becomes genetically and reproductively isolated from A (as fate would have it by a single base pair substitution that changes molt schedule). Meanwhile, A and B still are having only neutral substitutions that have no bearing on reproductive isolation. A1 and A are thus sister taxa, but using a BSC, A and B are still the same species. Two paraphyletic species have arisen. To me, the evidence for lumping crecca and carolinensis was probably inadequate by today's standards, but that's the status quo. Given the arbitrary nature at which reproductive isolation arises in regards to the continuum of sequence divergence, most of us in the committee would like to see some new published information on frequency of hybridization, and other characters that have bearing on reproductive isolation (molt schedules, displays, timing of breeding, etc) from areas near parapatry before we make a decision. Maybe we only have to revisit the old literature. I am sure that we shall deal with this by the next supplement, scheduled for July, 2002. Hope this helps, Andy Kratter Dr. Andrew Kratter, Collections Manager- Ornithology Florida Museum of Natural History PO Box 117800 University of Florida Gainesville, FL 32611 USA Ph. (352) 392-3293 Fax (352) 846-0287 http://www.flmnh.ufl.edu/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Grave From: Campbell Colin MSM NECO US <colin.campbell(AT)CIBASC.COM> Date: 22 Aug 2000 12:21pm Can any of you romantic scholars help me out? On the gravestone of Alexander Wilson in Philadelphia is the inscription: INGENIO STAT SINE MORTE DECUS Yes,yes, I know what the individual bits are - more of less - but what does the whole mean? Please, no random guesses, I have enough of those. Many thanks and lang may yer lums reek, Colin
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Grave From: Bill Principe <ThePrincipes(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 22 Aug 2000 1:49pm At 09:22 PM 8/22/2000 +0200, you wrote: >Can any of you romantic scholars help me out? On the gravestone of Alexander >Wilson in Philadelphia is the inscription: > >INGENIO STAT SINE MORTE DECUS Given the sorry state of my high school Latin, I can only hope it means "To Nature goes the glory of persisting beyond death," a reference to the fact that the natural world he studied went on, but poor Wilson was mortal. Ah, the enormity of it all!
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Grave From: Dave Rintoul <drintoul(AT)KSU.EDU> Date: 22 Aug 2000 5:29pm > > Can any of you romantic scholars help me out? On the gravestone of Alexander > Wilson in Philadelphia is the inscription: > > INGENIO STAT SINE MORTE DECUS > > Yes,yes, I know what the individual bits are - more of less - but what does > the whole mean? Please, no random guesses, I have enough of those. My high-school Latin faltered on this one, so I asked a real expert, Bill Harris, emeritus professor of Classics at Middlebury College. Here is his reply: ====== at non ingenio quaesitum nomen ab aevo excidet: ingenio stat sine morte decus. Horace is speaking of fame after death, a reputation that lives on. "..but a sought-after reputation does not disappear (if) with talent (ingenium). "With talent/genius the decoration/honor stands without death" I have translated overly literally but OK since you sent the Latin I guess. "If you work with real ability and talent, your fame lasts FOREVER". In Horace's case this is true,. but not of his compatriot Gallus from whom we have just ONE line remaining. There is a two column study of Lost Latin Literature, so Horace was OK for himself but not for the other guys. ===== hope this helps Dave -- Dave Rintoul, Ph.D. mailto:drintoul(AT)ksu.edu Biology Division - KSU ICBM: 39.18N, 96.34W Manhattan KS 66506-4901 VOX: 785-532-6663 http://www-personal.ksu.edu/~drintoul/ FAX: 785-532-6653 "When evolution is outlawed, only outlaws will evolve." M. Decker (1999)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Grave From: Chris Sloan <chris.sloan(AT)home.com> Date: 22 Aug 2000 5:19pm Wow, a question that I'm actually qualified to answer (I have a classics degree). Literally, it says "Distinction with respect to nature persists without end." What it means, I presume, is that Wilson's accomplishments in the natural world will live forever. I'll close by saying that this is WAY off-topic, and so any further discussion should probably be conducted in private. Chris Sloan chris.sloan(AT)home.com Nashville, TN > -----Original Message----- > From: NBHC ID-FRONTIERS Frontiers of Field Identification > [mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU]On Behalf Of Campbell Colin MSM > NECO US > Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2000 2:22 PM > To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU > Subject: [BIRDWG01] Grave > > > Can any of you romantic scholars help me out? On the gravestone > of Alexander > Wilson in Philadelphia is the inscription: > > INGENIO STAT SINE MORTE DECUS > > Yes,yes, I know what the individual bits are - more of less - > but what does > the whole mean? Please, no random guesses, I have enough of those. > > Many thanks and lang may yer lums reek, > > Colin >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Mystery Grouse Photo From: Ryan Shaw <BLKittiwake(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 22 Aug 2000 9:00pm Hey Ya'll I thought I would pass along a photo of a mystery grouse, to get some outside comments and opinions about this bird. Photo taken by Charlie Wright of Sumner Washington. at this web address http://www.hometown.aol.com/birdking88/mystery1.html Good Birding Ryan Shaw Olympia, WA BLKittiwake(AT)aol.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Grave From: Peter and Carol Wilkinson <pcwilkinson(AT)CLARA.CO.UK> Date: 23 Aug 2000 3:44am >On the gravestone of Alexander Wilson in Philadelphia is the inscription: > >INGENIO STAT SINE MORTE DECUS "By its nature deathless glory remains". From the way it scans it sounds like a quote from proper Latin verse, but I do not know from what (it is now 34 years since I last had to translate English verse into Latin verse, in an exam!). Peter Wilkinson Wheathampstead, Herts, England pcwilkinson(AT)clara.co.uk PS. For those who are interested in how it is put together: Ingenio = by its nature (ingenium means nature in the sense of character or innate quality) stat = stands (several senses, but here obviously meaning standing firm, abiding, continuing) sine morte = literally, without death, used poetically as an adjective, deathless, qualifying decus, which means any thing that ornaments, embellishes, adorns or honours. I chose glory for the translation above, but one could choose honour, dignity, virtue or other similar expressions.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals From: Dick Newell <Dick.Newell(AT)SMALLWORLD.CO.UK> Date: 23 Aug 2000 8:45pm Andrew Kratter wrote: "There is also a problem of having paraphyletic taxa, because A. flavirostris (Speckled Teal of South America) and carolinensis are more closely related than crecca and carolinensis." At the risk of demonstrating my ignorance, or even worse, being off-topic, nay controversial, this is so counter-intuitive that does it not need challenging? Whereas I am quite prepared to believe that when applied to the genetic material in the mitochondrial DNA of these 3 forms, it is correct, but it is not necessarily true about the forms themselves. It seems more likely that one of the ancestors of Speckled Teal was a hybrid, and there are a number of candidate forms in the southern hemisphere that could be (descendants of) the other parent. Taxonomic classification seems to be in a straightjacket because it would like to assume that everything evolved in a neatly divergent way - but it often ain't like that - especially with ducks (and gulls). If what I am saying is correct, then the fact that Speckled Teal exists at all should have no bearing on what we can say about the relationship between carolinensis and crecca. Now, how did Baikal Teal and carolinensis both get that vertical bar? ...... Dick Newell
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: AOUCLC on Green-winged Teals From: Dick Newell <Dick.Newell(AT)SMALLWORLD.CO.UK> Date: 24 Aug 2000 2:16am Further to my previous post, I should also have included the possibility that carolinensis had a hybrid origin involving Speckled Teal. This would then be a situation very similar to the relationship of Pomarine Skua/Jaeger to the other skuas/jaegers (i.e morphologically closer to Parasitic and Long-tailed, but mtDNA and parasites more similar to Great Skua) - which by the way doesn't seem to me to be a good reason to merge them all into one genus. Dick Newell
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Interesting Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida From: Noel Wamer <nwamer(AT)FCOL.COM> Date: 24 Aug 2000 2:11pm During the afternoon of August 21, 2000 Jack Dozier and I observed an interestingly plumaged cowbird visiting the feeders at his home at Bald Point, Franklin County, FL. We both judged the bird to be a male Bronzed Cowbird in molt between juv. and first basic plumage. I took a few passable shots with a digital camera through a telescope. There are very few records of this species in Florida in late-summer. The closest confirmed nesting record that I am aware of is from southern Mississippi. Does anyone know of summer records from Alabama? The somewhat meager resources here at the home-office do not have an illustration of this plumage, and I could find no images of this plumage on the internet. I have prepared a web page with pictures of this cowbird. There are two rather poor pictures that show size relative to female Red-winged Blackbirds, and three better pictures of the cowbird, with enlargements of head & bill, and both wing-tips. http://www.badbirdz.com/jacksCowbird.htm As always, comments are welcomed and complaints will be handled on case-by-case basis. Later... Noel Wamer nwamer(AT)fcol.com http://www.badbirdz.com Jacksonville, FL, US 30.2820 -81.4972 "A strange bird may cause a slight unrest until it is named..." (Walker Percy)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Interesting Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida From: Florida Nature Tours <fnt(AT)GDI.NET> Date: 24 Aug 2000 3:07pm Noel Wamer wrote: > > During the afternoon of August 21, 2000 Jack Dozier and I observed an > interestingly plumaged cowbird: Noel: Figs. 4 & 4a bare a striking resemblance to my old third grade teacher at PS 15 in Rochester, NY. Whacha think Judy D.?? I know that possession is 9 points of the law, but couldn't we call it Miss Benedict's Cowbird??? Wes Biggs Florida Nature Tours, Orlando 407/363-1360 fnt(AT)gdi.net http://www.floridanaturetours.com ABA sponsored
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: More Cowbird - Bald Point, Florida From: Noel Wamer <nwamer(AT)FCOL.COM> Date: 25 Aug 2000 8:55am Several comments about the pictures of Dozier's cowbird that I posted yesterday question whether the bill is too big and stout for Bronzed. I have prepared a comparison of the line-drawing outline of the head and bill of Bronzed from Pyle (1995) and the previous picture of the bill of Dozier's cowbird. The Pyle outline has been rotated to approximate the head and bill angle in the picture. To my eye it looks like a good fit. The comparison can be viewed at: http://www.badbirdz.com/jacksCowbird2.htm As always, comments are welcomed and complaints will be handled on case-by-case basis. Later... Noel Wamer nwamer(AT)fcol.com http://www.badbirdz.com Jacksonville, FL, US 30.2820 -81.4972 "A strange bird may cause a slight unrest until it is named..." (Walker Percy)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: QRY: Ringed Plover ..C. hiaticula.. in E Canada/US? From: "James H. Barton" <redwing1986(AT)MEDIAONE.NET> Date: 25 Aug 2000 2:37pm Friends, I'd appreciate being informed of sightings of Ringed Plover ..C. hiaticula.. in E. Canada and the U.S., whether or not submitted to or approved by records committees. Credible auditory/sight reports conceivably may have been submitted, but not accepted because of the bird's rarity. I've been told of a report from Massachusetts a few years ago, but I don't know if the observer(s) ever prepared or submitted any documentation. Thanks, Jim Barton redwing1986(AT)mediaone.net Cambridge, MA
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Manx Shearwater in Michigan From: Allen T Chartier <amazilia(AT)JUNO.COM> Date: 25 Aug 2000 4:14pm Banders, On August 19 a banded Manx Shearwater was discovered in the driveway of a residence in Macomb County, Michigan by a 12 year old girl! I'm astounded that this family of non-birders (I presume) was able to track down where this bird was banded via the internet. The bird was apparently banded in Ireland in 1991. Not only is this a first record for this species for Michigan, but as far as I've been able to determine, is the first inland occurrence of the species in North America. Even stranger given that there are no weather systems that would have pointed to this bird's presence here, similar to the Leach's Storm-Petrel that showed up in Ontario about 3 weeks (?) ago! The bird was brought to the Detroit Zoo for care, but on August 24 it died, and is apparently intended to be sent to the University of Michigan Museum of Zoology - Bird Division. Thanks to Karl Overman, compiler of the Detroit Rare Bird Alert for providing information on this bird. Allen Chartier 1442 West River Park Drive Inkster, MI 48141 Website: http://www.amazilia.net Email: amazilia(AT)juno.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Ringed Plover ..C. hiaticula.. in E Canada/US From: norman van swelm <Norman.vanswelm(AT)WXS.NL> Date: 26 Aug 2000 1:58pm James wrote: > Friends, I'd appreciate being informed of sightings of Ringed Plover >..C. hiaticula.. in E. Canada and the U.S., whether or not submitted to >or approved by records committees. Credible auditory/sight reports >conceivably may have been submitted, but not accepted because of the >bird's rarity. > James' request reminded me of informing you on hiaticula behaviour in Western Europe in particular for those of you who recorded Semipalmated Plovers showing display outside the breeding areas. But let me first tell you about the fate of the two chicks I banded at the same time James had his alarming Ringed Plover at the Cape. They both grew up well and I last saw them on Thursday. Since ten days they are attended by one parent only, the male. The female has no doubt left to moult, probably on the English south coast where many of our breeders have been trapped during winter. The male in the mean time watches over the young from 20 to 40 meters distance. If a person or dog approaches he raises alarm and the young lie still in between the boulders even though they are now able to fly. I visit them at regular intervals and the last few days they lie side by side with migrants which arrived during the night. These migrants are young birds too (mostly of the race tundrae) and they do not associate with the male. It should be remembered that the Dutch birds belong to the race hiaticula, the largest and rarest of the Ringed Plover races. Non-breeding birds as seen displaying by some of you, do not occur in the breeding areas. We only see breeding pairs and I don't know if non-breeders which remained in the winter quarters along the English and the Atlantic coasts of France and Iberia display there. The only groups, sometimes very large ones, we encounter during spring and late summer contain arctic birds belonging to the races tundrae (Russia) and psammodroma from Ellesmere and Greenland, the latter is the race most likely to be seen in the Eastern USA. Both these races make long journeys and winter in the tropics. In spring many birds are paired already and may show short outbreaks of display whereas in autumn groups the pairs have dissolved and aggressive behaviour has more to do with establishing feeding territories. So, the Ringed Plover behaviour seen by James at the Cape, would, when seen here always be associated with plovers tending chicks. Norman
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: [BIRDBAND] MANX SHEARWATER From: Allen T Chartier <amazilia(AT)JUNO.COM> Date: 26 Aug 2000 3:35pm Banders & Birders, I have been inundated with requests for more information on this incredible record! As the Autumn Season compiler for Michigan, I will be pursuing all these details, and any that can be provided through this forum are greatly appreciated. I will ascertain the band number directly from those who have the bird in their possession. I also will have soon the name of the girl that found the bird, in case those who banded the bird wish to contact her directly for any reason. One additional detail I can provide at this time is that the bird was found in the town of Armada, Michigan, which is in Macomb County in the southeastern side of the state, near Lake St. Clair. As noted in my posting, there seem to be absolutely NO weather conditions that could have caused this bird's vagrancy on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone on the other side of the pond have some insight on this? Allen Chartier 1442 West River Park Drive Inkster, MI 48141 Website: http://www.amazilia.net Email: amazilia(AT)juno.com
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