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ID-FRONTIERS for August 27-31, 2000

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 Subject From Date  Time 
 Re: [BIRDBAND] MANX SHEARWATER  Dick Newell   Sun, 27 Aug 2000  12:00am 
 Guernsey Griffon  Brian Small   Sun, 27 Aug 2000  1:14am 
 Lava Beds titmice]  Don Roberson and/or   Sun, 27 Aug 2000  8:45pm 
 QRY: Fall, winter adult Pac GP ..fulva../Am GP ..dominica..  James H. Barton  Mon, 28 Aug 2000  9:15am 
 breast pattern of young Parakeet Auklets  Albert Tristan McKee  Tue, 29 Aug 2000  10:33am 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: [BIRDBAND] MANX SHEARWATER From: Dick Newell <Dick.Newell(AT)SMALLWORLD.CO.UK> Date: 27 Aug 2000 12:00am Allen Chartier said: "As noted in my posting, there seem to be absolutely NO weather conditions that could have caused this bird's vagrancy on this side of the Atlantic. Anyone on the other side of the pond have some insight on this?" First, Manx Shearwater is not that uncommon in the western Atlantic and, as recently discussed on UKBN, coastal fog, particularly around estuaries, can result in seabirds getting lost inland. Once lost, who knows where they might end up. I myself have seen a Fulmar 50 miles inland circling among the gulls on a garbage dump, with no severe weather. Also, in September, about 15 years ago, I was called by one of my staff to come and see a "duck" on the lawn of our office - also 50 miles inland. I asked her what kind of duck was it - she didn't know, but it had webbed feet. When I eventually came down to look - I found a Manx Shearwater. There had been no severe weather, so one assumes it got lost in the fog, possibly in the Wash. Dick Newell, Cambridge, England
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Guernsey Griffon From: Brian Small <BrianJSmall(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 27 Aug 2000 1:14am For those interested, there are images of the Griffon Vulture on Guernsey at www.surfbirds.com.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Lava Beds titmice] From: Don Roberson and/or Rita Carratello <creagrus(AT)MONTEREYBAY.COM> Date: 27 Aug 2000 8:45pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- ----INCLUDING message/rfc822 MIME SECTION---- ---- DELETING EXCESS HEADER LINES ---- Date: Sun, 27 Aug 2000 19:50:38 -0800 From: Don Roberson and/or Rita Carratello <creagrus(AT)montereybay.com> To: countylisters(AT)listbot.com, calbird(AT)kiwi.net, birdwg01(AT)listserv.ariz.edu, Subject: [CALBIRD] Lava Beds titmice Sender: owner-calbird(AT)trogon.kiwi.net Reply-To: Don Roberson and/or Rita Carratello <creagrus(AT)montereybay.com> I have put together a page on the mystery of titmice i.d. in Lava Beds National Monument, e. Siskiyou Co., California, which appear to be in-between the known ranges of Oak and Juniper Titmice, and show some intergrade characters. It is an interesting mystery (at least to me) and the page is at http://montereybay.com/creagrus/titmouse_id.html This problem was discussed (and left unresolved) on the California "county listers" chat line a year or two past, and I have included some excellent comments from John Sterling on this problem from a year or so ago. However, I have never seen photos posted before so these may add to the discussion. This could also be of interest to Oregon birders. I would be very pleased to receive additional comments -- public or private -- on this problem that to me is still unresolved. Thanks. Don Roberson
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: QRY: Fall, winter adult Pac GP ..fulva../Am GP ..dominica.. From: "James H. Barton" <redwing1986(AT)MEDIAONE.NET> Date: 28 Aug 2000 9:15am Friends, I'm seeking info on the transitional Aug/Sep/Oct plumages of Pacific Golden Plover ..fulva.. vs. American Golden Plover ..dominica.., and also on advanced transitional or full winter plumage. Most standard U.S. and European sources, e.g. Nat Geo, Jonsson, BWP don't seem to be much help on these plumages. Maybe Point Reyes BO or ..Western Birds.. has published something in the U.S. Good material might available from Australia and New Zealand. Collins (Mullarney et al. p. 135)) does contrast an "Aug" fulva with a "Sep" dominica, showing differences. But I would sure like to examine additional material. I'd especially appreciate photos or illustrations presenting good views of the sides and back, including views (if such exist) of fulva from the rear. If you have personal slides or photos which you would care to share, I'd be happy to discuss suitable arrangements. Yours, Jim Barton redwing1986(AT)mediaone.net Cambridge, MA
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: breast pattern of young Parakeet Auklets From: Albert Tristan McKee <bertmckee(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 29 Aug 2000 10:33am Folks, I've been out of reach of regular e-mail for quite some time, so I'm not sure what has been happening on this list. I am writing to inquire about the appearance and varibility of young Parakeet Auklets. A Shearwater Journeys trip this past weekend encountered a somewhat controversial alcid 40 miles off Monterey, which I identified as a juvenile Parakeet. This bird's breast pattern was a subject of concern: it was pale tan from the waterline up to a rounded border with a dark throat. Thus the pattern was similar to an alternate-plumaged Parakeet Auklet or Common Murre, with pale tan replacing the white. Several references suggested that juvenile Parakeets are similar to winter adults, which would be all wrong, but Sibley's wonderful new guide shows a bird with quite a bit of dark on the breast (as well as a small, dark bill, similar to our bird's). However, the pattern of the Monterey bird still doesn't quite fit. Any comments from people with Alaskan experience would be most appreciated. Tristan McKee Pescadero, CA bertmckee(AT)hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.
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