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ID-FRONTIERS for February 18-24, 2001

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 Subject From Date  Time 
 Barn Swallow subspecies  Peter G. Merritt  Sun, 18 Feb 2001  11:36am 
 Vagrant swifts in MA  James H. Barton  Mon, 19 Feb 2001  5:56pm 
 Swifts  Clay Taylor   Mon, 19 Feb 2001  7:44pm 
 Aechmorphorus Grebe - Florida  Noel Wamer   Mon, 19 Feb 2001  8:22pm 
 Barn Owl Tyto alba ssp guttata?  Ricard Gutierrez   Tue, 20 Feb 2001  3:36pm 
 Unidentified UK Gull  Dick Newell   Thu, 22 Feb 2001  4:34pm 
 FL Aechmorphorus Grebe - Summary  Noel Wamer   Thu, 22 Feb 2001  9:15pm 
 Re: Unidentified UK Gull  Koen Verbanck   Fri, 23 Feb 2001  7:21am 
 White-fronted Goose id  Dick Newell   Fri, 23 Feb 2001  1:48pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Barn Swallow subspecies From: "Peter G. Merritt" <merritt(AT)GATE.NET> Date: 18 Feb 2001 11:36am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hello, I am trying to find someone familiar with plumage variations in the Barn = Swallow to view a short videotape that I took in Florida. The bird that = I videotaped appears to me that it may be the Eurasian subspecies of the = Barn Swallow (Hirundo rustica rustica). However, I would like to get the = opinion of someone who has experience working with Barn Swallows.=20 I have about 1 minute and 7 seconds of good video of this bird. The = swallow is perched and spends most of the time preening, ruffling its = feathers, and twisting its head. The feathers along the ventral mid-line = of the upper breast are partially separated, which may be the result of = the constant movement of air associated with a long migratory flight. = Even so, there appears to be a complete gray band characteristic of the = H. r. rustica. I would appreciate hearing from someone who has = experience with plumage variations in Barn Swallows and would be willing = to view the tape and offer an opinion concerning the identification of = subspecies. Sincerely, Peter G. Merritt, Ph.D. merritt(AT)gate.net ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Vagrant swifts in MA From: "James H. Barton" <redwing1986(AT)MEDIAONE.NET> Date: 19 Feb 2001 5:56pm Friends, I'd like to pursue the subject of vagrant swifts with a view to compiling a list of possibilities and probabilities in different regions of the U.S.. Such a list might help observers pick up important characters on these exciting and enigmatic birds in flight. To that end, here are my four records from MA, two of which I still have trouble believing. Mid-May. Noticeably smaller and paler swift soaring with Chimney Swifts at the entrance to the Mt. Auburn Cemetery, Cambridge, MA. Three observers. Underside seen well. Overall shape seemingly more compact. Two observers quite familiar with Vaux's Swift. Reported and recorded as Vaux's, C. vauxi. Mid-May. Swift with long forked tail and white rump, seen moving northwards at high speed at Plum Island, Newburyport, MA. Seen two weeks later at a Purple Martin house on PI. White throat. I've convinced several knowledgeable people that this was a Fork-tailed Swift, A. pacificus. But I haven't really convinced myself. Mid-August. Large, very dark, bulky swift (as I perceived it, given my experience with Chimney Swift) with shallowly forked tail, coursing a salt marsh at eye level at Belle Isle, E. Boston. Taken to be Black Swift C. niger, which I had seen in California. Not large enough or with tail sufficiently deeply forked to be Common Swift, A. apus. Mid-August. Most startling. Associated with a major hurricane. Very small, very dark swift seemingly without any tail, smaller than Tree Swallow, T. bicolor. First thought to be Tree Swallow, but >...noticeably smaller, all dark below, with evident swift shape and flight pattern...<. Fluttering above an insect rich field at the Fresh Pond Reservation, Cambridge, MA. Studied at length against the background of high, thick haze. Underside seen well. Shades of dark coloration not possible to observe. Short-tailed Swift, C. brachyura ??? Have at them. Yours, Jim Barton redwing1986(AT)mediaone.net Cambridge, MA
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Swifts From: Clay Taylor <CTaylor(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 19 Feb 2001 7:44pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi Jim - Obviously, the swift sightings are pretty interesting, but the bare = bones report (no specific dates, photos, videos, expanded field notes, = etc....) leaves me nothing to "Have at". Were these sightings written = up and submitted to any review committee, or is this e-request the first = step in such a process? Living just to your south, I would conclude that some (all?) of = these birds could have passed by my area either before or after you saw = them in Eastern Mass, so I certainly am interested in knowing more about = them. Clay Taylor Moodus, CT ctaylor(AT)swarovskioptik.com=20 ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Aechmorphorus Grebe - Florida From: Noel Wamer <nwamer(AT)FCOL.COM> Date: 19 Feb 2001 8:22pm A grebe of this genus was present for several weeks this winter at Sanibel Island Florida, and beautiful photographs of it were obtained and are posted on the Web: http://home.earthlink.net/~bonniedabird/images/Rarities/WEGR1.jpg http://home.earthlink.net/~bonniedabird/images/Rarities/WEGR2.jpg http://www.javaswift.com/floridabirds/Western%20Grebe.html Do the bill color and large, well-defined white lore patch on this bird make it an example of an enigmatic intermediate bird as illustrated in The Sibley? Later... Noel Wamer nwamer(AT)fcol.com http://www.badbirdz.com Jacksonville, FL, US 30.2820 -81.4972 "You can't stop us 'cause our eyes can see" (Van Morrison)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Barn Owl Tyto alba ssp guttata? From: Ricard Gutierrez <GUTARB(AT)terra.es> Date: 20 Feb 2001 3:36pm Hello: On behalf of my colleague at the Feral Birds Spanish Committe (GAE), Jordi Clavell albanell(AT)retemail.es who is not in this forum, I forward his query about the possible ssp identity of some Barn Owl shots taken in Spain which have caused some controversy. His message is as follows: Hi all, On the web [http://idd002nn.eresmas.net/tyto/Tyto.htm] we have enclosed several photos of Tyto alba specimens, coming from a work of Jaume Bonfil, Anna Varea and Francesc Moncasí, taken from 1996 to 1998 in Catalunya (NE Spain). The point is that the Tyto that can be seen on the pictures are very dark, with the plumage like that of the ssp. guttata, but they were ringed within the full breeding season in Catalunya, an area where only the nominal form alba is supposed to be found In this study it has been found a high variability of colours, and some very dark examples, often exceeding the usual differences between males and females. Therefore we should be interested to gather opinions of ornithologists well acquainted with guttata, for the right identification of these specimens. The point is outstanding because in none of the consulted sources is the ssp. guttata described as a breeder in SW Europe, and it even gives cause to think if T. a. guttata is really a ssp. or a 'form' or coloration 'phase' which could appear less frequently in SW Europe than in other areas. Jordi Clavell Thank you Ricard Gutiérrez RBS http://www.terra.es/personal3/gutarb 20.2.2001
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Unidentified UK Gull From: Dick Newell <dick.newell(AT)APPLEONLINE.NET> Date: 22 Feb 2001 4:34pm On http://www.cambridgebirdclub.org.uk/photos.htm see 4 pictures, taken by Dave Hatton, of an unidentified gull, originally picked out by Simon Stirrup, at Milton Landfill, Cambridge, UK on 15/11/98 (pictures also temporarily on faster site below). This bird turned up shortly after some of us in the UK were starting to get our brains around Caspian Gull (aka Pontic Gull) Larus cachinnans cachinnans. At first we thought it was another Caspian Gull. Now, after a lot more experience with cachinnans, we are not sure what it is. The bird appears to be in 2nd winter (2CY) plumage - but even that has been challenged. It has a mirror on P10, which we believe is normal for cachinnans at this age, but very unusual, if at all, on michahellis. The bill was unusual, being a combination of black with yellow from the tip along the culmen. This pattern is occasionally seen in a number of large gulls in Europe. It was very active and full of charisma, extremely aggressive to other gulls, frequently lunging at them and often raising its wings. It had a peculiar feeding habit, holding its bill under the water and advancing rapidly. Opinions on its identification would be welcome, there is no consensus or firm commitment to an id among the few people we have consulted so far. Dick Newell Faster site: http://magikcircle.com/cbc/photos.htm
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: FL Aechmorphorus Grebe - Summary From: Noel Wamer <nwamer(AT)FCOL.COM> Date: 22 Feb 2001 9:15pm The inquiry I posted a week or so ago about the Aechmorphorus grebe from Sanibel Island, Florida resulted in responses from nine persons. I would like to thank all of them for their thoughtful comments. As no one responded directly to the list, I will only post a "box-score" of the opinions: Western - 1 intermediate/hybrid - 7 not sure -1 I would especially like to thank the person who went to the trouble to examine a number of museum specimens. I certainly agree with this person's comment: >Whatever the answer, this kind of stuff makes birding fun! Later... Noel Wamer Jacksonville, FL, US nwamer(AT)fcol.com http://www.badbirdz.com/ "Even in its most primitive form, naming is a kind of judgment." (Walker Percy)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Unidentified UK Gull From: Koen Verbanck <verbanckk(AT)SKYNET.BE> Date: 23 Feb 2001 7:21am Hi all, this bird looks like a michahellis: I think that this bird is a second summer (3yc) bird with a strange moult-pattern (based a.o. on the large amount of adult looking secundaries, quite a few grey median & lesser wingcoverts, tail which is already largely white with only little remains of the black tailband ; strange is the lack of adult-looking greater coverts. This age would also explain the white mirror on P10). The bill pattern is quite variable in michahellis in this stage but isn't unusual: although the yellow tip is quite extensive, there is also a less clear yellow billbase. Normally I would expect to see more clear yellow at the base. Love to hear other opinions, greatings Koen Verbanck. > On http://www.cambridgebirdclub.org.uk/photos.htm see 4 pictures, taken by > Dave Hatton, of an unidentified gull, originally picked out by Simon > Stirrup, at Milton Landfill, Cambridge, UK on 15/11/98 (pictures also > temporarily on faster site below). This bird turned up shortly after some of > us in the UK were starting to get our brains around Caspian Gull (aka Pontic > Gull) Larus cachinnans cachinnans. At first we thought it was another > Caspian Gull. Now, after a lot more experience with cachinnans, we are not > sure what it is. The bird appears to be in 2nd winter (2CY) plumage - but > even that has been challenged. It has a mirror on P10, which we believe is > normal for cachinnans at this age, but very unusual, if at all, on > michahellis. The bill was unusual, being a combination of black with yellow > from the tip along the culmen. This pattern is occasionally seen in a number > of large gulls in Europe. It was very active and full of charisma, extremely > aggressive to other gulls, frequently lunging at them and often raising its > wings. It had a peculiar feeding habit, holding its bill under the water and > advancing rapidly. > Opinions on its identification would be welcome, there is no consensus or > firm commitment to an id among the few people we have consulted so far. > Dick Newell > Faster site: http://magikcircle.com/cbc/photos.htm >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: White-fronted Goose id From: Dick Newell <dick.newell(AT)APPLEONLINE.NET> Date: 23 Feb 2001 1:48pm Having heard that a flock of 8 Greenland White-fronted Geese, together with 1 European White-front, had turned up not far from here (Cambridge, UK) I went to see them. Greenland White-front is a mega rarity here in East Anglia, but there was not a twitcher to be seen - they are not considered a different species. Anyway, I found 9 geese with white fronts and most had bright orange bills, some looking more pinkish. I have to admit, that I was fairly persuaded that these were indeed Greenland White-fronts. Take a look at http://www.cambridgebirdclub.org.uk/photos.htm - what would you make of them? Dick Newell Temporary faster site: http://magikcircle.com/cbc/photos.htm
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