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ID-FRONTIERS for April 1-7, 2001

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 Subject From Date  Time 
 Re: North American vs Eurasian Surf Scoter  Tony Leukering   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  9:18am 
 Re: North American vs Eurasian Surf Scoter  Tony Leukering   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  9:24am 
 Common Black Hawk  Will Russell   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  12:19pm 
 First Kittlitz's Plover (Ch.pecuarius) for Spain description online  Ricard Gutierrez   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  2:19pm 
 Re: Common Black Hawk  Tony Leukering   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  4:33pm 
 RFI Hybrid Black-headed X Rose-breasted Grosbeaks  Tom & Heather   Sun, 1 Apr 2001  8:57pm 
 Mystery vireo in Miami  John H Boyd III   Mon, 2 Apr 2001  4:43am 
 Mystery vireo in Miami-a possible solution  Glenn A dEntremont   Tue, 3 Apr 2001  6:54pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: North American vs Eurasian Surf Scoter From: Tony Leukering <GreatGrayO(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 1 Apr 2001 9:18am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi all: The Dutch have, indeed, split _aprylfullsii_, but have gone one step further and separated the barely clinal variation that is represented by _gulliblensis_. This latter form was first described by Oberholser in Bird-Life of Texas, but submerged into _aprylfullsii_ by all subsequent authors (e.g., AOU 1983, AOU 1998, and Seuss year uncertain). Oberholser separated _gulliblensis_ from other forms primarily due to its longer third toe (mean=27.4mm SE 4.3 vs. 25.8 mm SE 3.6 in nominate and 26.2 mm SE 4.0 in _aprylfullsii_) and by the chicks have down feathers with slightly longer dark bases. He theorized that these features helped the bird in diving through denser, saltier water (typically found on inland, saline lakes e.g., Great Salt Lake, Mono Lake) and in thermoregulation of the chicks, respectively. I don't see any valid reasoning behind these pronouncements, as the species is quite rare on these inland, saline lakes. Ah, well, ain't science wonderful. Thanks to Angus for initiating this very interesting and foolish thread! Enjoy the Day, all! Tony Leukering Brighton, CO ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: North American vs Eurasian Surf Scoter From: Tony Leukering <GreatGrayO(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 1 Apr 2001 9:24am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi all: I forgot to include the citations for my references in my recent post. They are below. Tony Leukering Brighton, CO American Ornithologists' Union. 1983. Check-list of North American Birds, 6th ed. Allen Press, Lawrence, KS. American Ornithologists' Union. 1998. Check-list of North American Birds, 7th ed. Allen Press, Lawrence, KS. Oberholser, H.C. 1974. Bird-life of Texas. (I don't have the pub here, so...). Seuss, Dr. Year uncertain. One Fish, Two Fish, Red Fish, Blue Fish. (ditto, above). ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Common Black Hawk From: Will Russell <russell(AT)RTD.COM> Date: 1 Apr 2001 12:19pm A few weeks ago, Steve Howell called my attention to a first winter Common Black Hawk soaring over the ruins at Palenque, Chiapas, Mexico. Looking up I was stunned to see a bird whose shape and plumage were so close to that of first winter Red-tailed Hawk that I might well have dismissed it as a Red-tail had I seen the bird in the colder months in Arizona where an eye-opening array of first-winter Red-tail plumages occur. Common Black Hawk nests in Arizona, of course, and adults are regularly seen as spring migrants and on their breeding grounds along certain streams, but my known exposure to fledged young had always been on or near the ground. Young Arizona-reared Common Black Hawks apparently remain in Mexico during their first summer but I wonder why I've never seen a young bird in the fall except low along streams and under the canopy in flooded nut tree groves. Have I overlooked them overhead or are their numbers just so small and their cross-country altitude so high as to make detection unlikely? It's dangerous to generalize from one bird but two things stuck me about the Palenque individual. The inner primaries were more translucent than in any Red-tail resulting in strikingly bright, pale pannels and the background color of the tail was pale, contrasting with the narrow dark transverse bands and, at least at moderate heights, producing a tail pattern not seen on any(?) Red-tail.. I suspect a Red-tail specialist looking at the Palenque bird could have given me a number of plumage features that singly or collectively were unlikely to be present in any Red-tail but with the two exceptions noted above, all my unprepared mind could record was similarities. Will Russell russell(AT)rtd.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: First Kittlitz's Plover (Ch.pecuarius) for Spain description online From: Ricard Gutierrez <GUTARB(AT)terra.es> Date: 1 Apr 2001 2:19pm Hello: In the RBS (Rare Birds in Spain) website I have put a description with sketch drawings of th 1st Spanish record of Kittlitz's Plover (Charadrius pecuarius) seen a few weeks ago in La Mancha, Toledo. The bird was in good condition and there seems to be no doubt of its origin. Despite being a largely sedentary (or thought to be) species in N Africa, there are some records from Morocco and one from France which more or less fit the dates of the current sighting. Also all recent reports in the country Thank you Ricard Gutiérrez http://www.terra.es/personal3/gutarb 1.4.2001
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Common Black Hawk From: Tony Leukering <GreatGrayO(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 1 Apr 2001 4:33pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi all: I would agree with Will's comments about the similarity between juv COBH and RTHA. However, I would not agree that there are no Red-tail plumages with a tail pattern matching that of a juv COBH. Some adult Harlan's Hawks have eerily similar tail patterns, though they're usually not as strikingly black-and-white as that of COBH. Of course, adult Harlan's should not show a translucent wing panel, making separation much more obvious. Enjoy, Tony Leukering Brighton, CO ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RFI Hybrid Black-headed X Rose-breasted Grosbeaks From: Tom & Heather <THLALLY(AT)EMAIL.MSN.COM> Date: 1 Apr 2001 8:57pm Hi all, I am hoping that someone can direct me to photos of presumed hybrid Black-headed (Pheucticus Melanocephalus) X Rose-breasted (P. Ludovicianus) Grosbeaks . What I really am interested in are photos of hybrid females or aberrant plumages of the above species. Thanks in advance. Tom Lally Edison Park, Chicago, IL thlally(AT)msn.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Mystery vireo in Miami From: John H Boyd III <boydj(AT)FIU.EDU> Date: 2 Apr 2001 4:43am There's a vireo in Miami that has us somewhat puzzled. Structure and plumage strongly suggest Warbling Vireo, but the song sounds a lot more like Bell's. Bell's is a rare occasional wintering bird, while this bird was at least 3 weeks earlier than any accepted report of Warbling. Any tips on nailing this one down would be appreciated. Is there some field mark we missed? Can Bell's really look so much like Warbling? Could it be Warbling with an aberrant song? Here's the description: Vireo seen at A.D. Barnes Park, Miami, on March 31 and April 1, 2001 Observed briefly on March 31, 2001 @ about 2pm. Observed on-and-off from 8am to 1pm on April 1, 2001 with about a dozen other birders. Weather ranged from post-rain overcast to blue skies. The bird was mostly seen inside the canopy and overhead, but we did see it some in full sunlight, and not far above eye-level. References and tapes were consulted several times during the 5-hour viewing period on April 1, as well as in the evening of March 31 and April 1. They include Sibley, Kaufman photo + advanced birding, Audubon master, Stokes, NGS III, Peterson, Pyle, and Stokes & Peterson CDs. Appearance: Gray cap (darker than face), white supercilium, short gray eyeline, not extending to bill, no eye-ring, pale area beneath eye (contrasting with eyeline) almost as thick as supercilium, eye dark. Vireo-type bill, but pointy, lower mandible flesh colored, upper mandible color not clearly noted. Gray head (darker on top), back with olive tones in the gray. No hint of wing bars. A white feather edge is visible at the bend of the folded wing. Underparts light, yellow wash on flanks and breast (flank yellow was brightest), also pale yellowish wash on undertail coverts. Some of the yellow wash on the underparts was only visible in good light. Tail was medium length, and dusky gray underneath. Overall shape of bird from underneath similar to Red-eyed Vireo. The bird appeared larger than nearby Prairie Warblers, about the same size as nearby Black-and-white Warblers. Definitely smaller than a Red-eyed Vireo (which was not present). Compared to a Blue-headed Vireo, (which was present) it was more lightly-built, but maybe not shorter. Behavior: The vireo was extremely active early on Apr 1, moreso than nearby warblers. Later in the day its activity level was comparable to nearby warblers. When we saw in the hot afternoon on March 31, it was not particularly active. Song: I would describe the song as similar to Bell's Vireo. It sang quite a bit, but I would not describe it as full song...some sort of subsong, or whatever you call it. The song was slower than Bell's examples on tapes, paced more like Warbling. The bird's voice had a bit of a buzzy to burry tone, unlike the clear whistles of (Eastern) Warbling, or the more Grosbeak-like tones of (Western) Warbling, but very similar to the tone of Bell's. The song was quite busy, with occasional scold notes or other noises. It often had an ending quite like Bell's. (Larry Manfredi recorded some examples of its song on his new digital recorder.) The scold call was similar to Warbling...I don't know Bell's scold call. Other comments: If I saw the bird without hearing it, I would consider it an obvious Warbling Vireo. If I heard it without seeing it, I would take it for a Bell's Vireo (but an unusual song). -- John H. Boyd III boydj(AT)fiu.edu Dept. of Economics Phone: 305-348-3287 Florida International University Fax: 305-348-1524 Miami, FL 33199 http://ecojb.fiu.edu/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Mystery vireo in Miami-a possible solution From: Glenn A dEntremont <gdentremont(AT)JUNO.COM> Date: 3 Apr 2001 6:54pm No doubt this bird was probably reared within sound of a Bell's Vireo. I suggest that anyone interested read a recent article which appeared in Bird Observer, Volume 28, number 5 (October 2000) which documents a Philadelphia Vireo which learned a Warbling Vireo Song. The article is entitled "The Oxbird [National Wildlife Refuge in Harvard Massachusetts] Philadelphia Vireo" written by Ron Lockwood. Bird Observer is a bi-monthly journal of eastern Massachusetts complete with sight reports of MA birds. It has peer reviewed articles which are useful in other parts of North America as the above article shows. Glenn On Mon, 2 Apr 2001 07:43:00 -0400 John H Boyd III <boydj(AT)FIU.EDU> writes: > There's a vireo in Miami that has us somewhat puzzled. Structure and > plumage strongly suggest Warbling Vireo, but the song sounds a lot > more > like Bell's. Glenn d'Entremont gdentremont(AT)juno.com Stoughton, MA
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