ID-FRONTIERS for March 1-9, 2002

Messages are displayed in the order they were received.  Subject  From  Date   Time   Fwd: Re: [Laridae] A pale herring gull !?   Rik Winters    Fri, 1 Mar 2002   5:21am   Re: [Laridae] A pale herring gull !? - AND MORE   Martin Reid    Fri, 1 Mar 2002   8:27am   Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck   Wayne C. Weber   Sat, 2 Mar 2002   10:53am   Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck   ian paulsen    Sat, 2 Mar 2002   11:36am   Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck   Tony Leukering    Sat, 2 Mar 2002   11:40am   Hybrid Aythya diving-duck   Angus Wilson    Sat, 2 Mar 2002   2:31pm   Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck   Peter Adriaens    Sun, 3 Mar 2002   1:00pm   RFI: Owls of Chiapas   Dan Lockshaw    Sun, 3 Mar 2002   6:31pm   Pictures of Painted Bunting (fwd)   ian paulsen    Sun, 3 Mar 2002   9:13pm   Need Photo Comparison   D.W. King   Tue, 5 Mar 2002   8:16am   Larus canus from DE   Matt Sharp    Tue, 5 Mar 2002   10:49am   [BIRDCHAT] Maryland Kelp Gull Review Status Report (fwd)   ian paulsen    Thu, 7 Mar 2002   5:31pm   A new quiz bird   Michel Bertrand    Fri, 8 Mar 2002   8:42am

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Subject: Fwd: Re: [Laridae] A pale herring gull !?
From: Rik Winters <gagel(AT)WXS.NL>
Date: 1 Mar 2002 5:21am

Dear Bruce, Menotti and others,

I do not agree with Menotti's suggestion the bird might be a Caspian Gull.
The apparently (almost) all dark tail would be extremely exceptional for
the
species. Also, most structural features do not fit this option.
I'm not familiar with GlaucousxHerring-hybrids, so I cannot really comment
on Bruce's statement. On a hybrid I would not expect to see dark outer
primaries, dark (remnants of) tertials and an almost unmarked dark tail.
Could you elaborate on that Bruce?
What is left of the wingcoverts and tertials, the dark eye and several
other
features all point at a bird in it's first spring (second calendar year).
I'm a bit surprised to see this bird does not show any signs of moult,
which
I think is a bit late. It does suggest the bird has not too long ago
returned from southerly wintering grounds, what is also suggested by the
extreme wear of the plumage. Also, the bird seems to have replaced the
majority -but not all- of it's scapulars during the post-juvenile moult.
This extend of post-juvenile moult is typical for European Herring Gulls
wintering in the north of the Netherlands. The few Glaucous Gulls seen here
typically have not replaced any (or very few?) juvenile scaps. Bruce, could
you (or anyone else) tell more about how this compares to birds observed
around Newfoundland?

Alltogether, I still feel comfortable with the bird being a bleached
Herring, but I would be interested to know more about hybrids.

kind regards,
Rik Winters


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Subject: Re: [Laridae] A pale herring gull !?  - AND MORE
From: Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET>
Date: 1 Mar 2002 8:27am

Dear All,
I find myself in agreement with Rik on this bird.  At first I did consider
it having some GLGU genes solely due to the bill pattern, but I have found
enough examples of presumed HERGs with this pattern (as early as their
first November) to feel comfortable with it being a "pure" HERG of some kind.
I've added six new pages of presumed smithy HERGs from Texas to my web
site, most are from the same three-day period in November 1999, and there
is one adult with P7 the longest primary in mid-January:
http://www.martinreid.com/hsmitinx.html
I'd value comments on these new gulls, as I feel that they all expand the
envelope for "smith" - assuming that they are smiths, of course....
Cheers,
Martin

Martin Reid
Fort Worth, Texas
upupa(AT)airmail.net
http://www.martinreid.com


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Subject: Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck
From: "Wayne C. Weber" <contopus(AT)SHAW.CA>
Date: 2 Mar 2002 10:53am

Angus and Bird-ID Aficionados,

Based on both the photos of the Long Island bird and on biogeographic
grounds, I would say that your hybrid Aythya is almost certainly a
TUFTED DUCK X GREATER SCAUP.

Tufted Ducks, to the best of my knowledge, have not been known to
breed in North America. In Asia, from where this bird probably
originated, there are Greater Scaup but no Lesser Scaup. Therefore,
the possibility of Lesser Scaup as a parent of this hybrid is very
slim.

Several years ago (I can't find the exact date at the moment), I
observed a bird on Nicola Lake, south of Kamloops, B.C., which I
studied at close range and concluded was a TUFTED DUCK X GREATER
SCAUP. This bird was not photographed, but I did take detailed field
notes on the bird.

I'm not sure how rare TUFTED DUCK X GREATER SCAUP hybrids are in
Europe or Asia (perhaps some of our Old World subscribers can provide
information?), but they are certainly not unheard of.

One wrinkle: if the Long Island bird was of captive origin, it
certainly could be a TUFTED DUCK x LESSER SCAUP hybrid, as nearly any
hybrids are possible in captivity. However, if the bird is of wild
origin (which I consider most likely), I believe the possibility of a
TUFTED DUCK X LESSER SCAUP hybrid can be virtually eliminated.

Wayne C. Weber
Kamloops, BC, Canada
contopus(AT)shaw.ca

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From: Angus Wilson <wilsoa02(AT)ENDEAVOR.MED.NYU.EDU>
To: <BIRDWG01(AT)listserv.arizona.edu>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 5:43 PM
Subject: [BIRDWG01] Hybrid Aythya diving-duck

> Last weekend I photographed an interesting hybrid duck on Massapequa
> Lake on the south shore of Long Island New York. Reminiscent of a
Tufted
> Duck, most or all observers now agree this is a hybrid of some kind,
> most likely a Tufted Duck x scaup combo. Exactly which naughty scaup
is
> involved presents more of a challenge.
>
> The pictures can be found on this page
>
> http://www.oceanwanderers.com/Aythyahybrid.html
>
> I'd appreciate any informed comments or additional information.  If
> possible post to the main list so that everyone can enjoy the
discussion
> if there is one!
>
> Cheers,
>
> Angus Wilson
> New York City
> angus.wilson(AT)med.nyu.edu
>
> **************************
> Visit "Ocean Wanderers", an on-line
> resource for serious birders at:
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Subject: Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck
From: ian paulsen <ipaulsen(AT)KRL.ORG>
Date: 2 Mar 2002 11:36am

HI Wayne et al.:
 There is a way that a lesser Scaup x Tufted Duck hybrid could happen in
the wild. Most duck do their courtship display on their wintering grounds,
so a tufted duck/lesser scaup pairing could happen here in the wild and if
I remeber correctly the male duck usually follwos the female to her
breeding grounds. So a male Tufted could follow a female lesser scaup to
her breeding grounds in North America. If you are really interested in
duck hybrids you should consult the following British publication"
 Hybrid Ducks by Eric and Barry Gillham. They also produce supplements to
this volume (lasttime I checked they are up to number 5!). Try
www.nhbs.com for more details.
sincerely

Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
ipaulsen(AT)krl.org
A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
"Rallidae all the way"


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Subject: Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck
From: Tony Leukering <GreatGrayO(AT)AOL.COM>
Date: 2 Mar 2002 11:40am

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Hi all:

While Wayne's logic is right on if these Tufted x scaup hybrids are produced
in the Old World, I beg to differ with his thesis, for two reasons.

1) Birds that are out of range occasionally, rather than not breeding at all,
pair with individuals not of their species, e.g., the Laughing Gull way back
when that bred in a Ring-billed Gull colony in Ohio.

2) Most duck species pair on the winter grounds, with the male following the
female to her natal site.  Should a male Tufted Duck have wintered in the New
World (and that seems to be the sex of most birds that we are able to find --
and I do realize that we are probably missing females, but we certainly do
know that males overwinter in North America) and paired with a scaup, it
could have been either scaup species and  they probably produced North
American-bred hybrid young.  Granted, every time that I've seen Tufted Duck
(which ain't many), it has been in the company of Greater Scaup so, perhaps
that species is the likely other parent of a Tufted x scaup hybrid.  However,
I do believe that there is a reasonable possibility that Lesser could be
involved in a Tufted x scaup hybrid combo.  That is, unless Tufted Ducks do
not pair on the winter grounds....

Enjoy,

Tony Leukering
Brighton, CO

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Subject: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck
From: Angus Wilson <wilsoa02(AT)ENDEAVOR.MED.NYU.EDU>
Date: 2 Mar 2002 2:31pm

The more I think about it, the more complex I think this issue becomes.
Do we really have any firm knowledge of what Tufted x Greater Scaup and
Tufted x Lesser Scaup look like? Many arguments stem from observations
of wintering birds where their origins and parentage are unknown. As
Wayne Weber suggests, the photos of the Long Island bird could also fit
a Tufted x Greater Scaup hybrid and I would love to see more photos of
these types of birds. Surfing around on the web I've run across many
reports of hybrid aythya but relatively few photographs.

Arguments based on breeding range don't seem that helpful. I agree with
Ian Paulsen and Tony Leukering that hybrid pairs most likely form on the
wintering grounds and that Tufted Ducks in North America may have to
pair with other species including the two scaup, Ring-necked Duck,
Canvasback or Redhead and so on. As far as I know, most eastern North
American Tufted Ducks are found in scaup flocks (composed of either
species or mixed) but this may not apply to the whole continent.

Also I've focused on the Tufted x scaup pairing but this is simply an
assumption based on appearance. Should we discount other combinations
(e.g. Ring-necked Duck x Scaup)? I half wonder if the "Lesser Scaup"
isn't a throw back to ancestral aythya, given that so many combinations
seem to generate birds of this type (see the Collins Guide for paintings
of several combos).  Unfortunately, I don't have access to the
publications by Eric and Barry Gillham (see
http://www.fsinet.or.jp/~bird/bird/HybridDucks.html) and would like to
know if they illustrate Aythya hybrids of known parentage, ie from
collections? In a past ID-Frontiers message Paul Larkin (3 Sep 2000)
mentioned that Bulletin #3 includes a description of Ring-necked Duck x
Tufted Duck which might be interesting. [I believe the Gillham books are
available from Subbuteo Books
(http://www.subbooks.demon.co.uk/diversto.htm).]

I've exchanged e-mails with Osao Ujihara who has been studying this
topic and who provides a unique collection of photographs. I thought it
would be useful to share some of his thoughts with the wider group.

Osao writes, "In my experience, typical Tufted x Greater hybrids are
usually larger than Tufted Ducks or Lesser Scaups, and have broad black
bill-markings that are usually a little narrower than that of Tufted
ducks. Their bills and heads often look stout like Greater Scaups. The
Massapequa Lake bird does not look so stout to my eye."

"[The] Tufted x Lesser-like hybrids that I put [on] my pages were
similar to Tufted Ducks in size, and I didn't feel any Greater
Scaup-like, heavy structural impressions. The black bill-marking of the
male was not so broad, and was similar to that of Greater Scaup. Of
course I am not sure whether they were real Tufted x Lesser or not,
because Tufted x Greater hybrids also might include smaller variants.

Regarding possible hybridization of Asian Tufted Ducks with Lesser
Scaup, Osao offers the following: "..... in Japan, I used to count
around 10 Lesser Scaups in some winters........ So I guess, if they
migrate to Russia with Tufted Ducks, they might mate with Tufted Ducks."

This suggests that Lesser Scaup may be a relatively frequent wanderer to
Kamchatka or eastern Siberia, if so many can be found in Japan. Perhaps
hybrid return to western North America and may even wander across the
continent. The assumption with eastern records of Tufted Duck is that
these originate in Iceland where they overlap with Greater Scaup as a
breeding species.

Many thanks to those who've chimed in so far.

Angus Wilson
New York City
angus.wilson(AT)med.nyu.edu

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Subject: Re: Hybrid Aythya diving-duck
From: Peter Adriaens <peter.adriaens(AT)dutchbirding.nl>
Date: 3 Mar 2002 1:00pm

Hello,

there is one more useful reference treating a.o. the topic of 'scaup' x
Tufted Duck hybrids:

Randler, C. (2000): Die Bestimmung von Tauchentenhybriden der Gattung
Aythya ("Identification of hybrid Aythya ducks").
Limicola 14:1; 1-35.  [In German, but with English summary]

Randler's article is basically a comprehensive summary of his extensive
research into the available literature, including descriptions and
photographs of hybrids recorded in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland (1,300
birds).

Of all records examined for this article, 2.9% refer to hybrid Tufted Ducks
x Greater Scaups. Records of Tufted Duck x Lesser Scaup hybrids, on the
other hand, seem to be very scarce; the author found only two references to
birds that were suspected to be of this hybrid combination, namely:

- Peterjohn, B. (1989): Description of a probable Tufted Duck x Lesser
Scaup hybrid. American Birds 43: 487.
- Harrop, A. (1998): Female Aythya hybrid resembling Lesser Scaup.
  British Birds 91: 195 - 197.

For comparison: the commonest hybrid type in Europe, Tufted Duck x Pochard,
has a share of 62.4% in Randler's sample.

As for the New York hybrid, there can be no doubt that one of the parents
is a Tufted Duck (cf. obvious 'tuft' on the rear head, for instance), while
bill pattern (with very little black at the tip), dark grey rather than
black upperparts, white flanks, etc. strongly indicate that the other
parent is one of the 'scaups'.
Size of Tufted Duck x Greater Scaup is described as variable, ranging from
only marginally larger than Tufted Duck (Bullock, D; 1976:"Probable Scaup x
Tufted Duck hybrids". Scottish birds 9: 118 - 119) to almost as big as
Greater Scaup.
The bird's plumage is quite in accordance with descriptions of other Tufted
Duck x Greater Scaup hybrids, except perhaps for a few minor points:
-> Head coloration: most often, a greenish gloss is recorded in males of
this hybrid type - but a purplish cast has been described as well;
-> Back colour: according to the article, some fine dark vermiculations or
even barring, are usually visible on the grey upperparts, though less
obvious than in Lesser Scaup.

Whatever this hybrid may be, I think its 'Tufted Duck element' is the most
dominant one, which would explain the bird's rather small size, obvious
tuft, dark grey back, and bill shape.

I don't think it is known how to tell a Tufted Duck x Greater Scaup hybrid
from a Tufted Duck x Lesser Scaup, except perhaps when size, bill shape,
and head shape strongly suggest the former (i.e. are similar to Greater
Scaup). Head gloss is also suggested as being something worth looking at.
In any case, the latter combination seems to be genuinely rare.
It should be noted that in the female probable Tufted Duck x Lesser Scaup
described by Harrop (1998), the white wing stripe reached onto the
primaries.

To conclude, I would like to mention that the article also contains a
photograph of a known hybrid male Tufted Duck x Greater Scaup, in captivity
(Abb. 24). This photograph originally appeared in the book by Gillham &
Gillham (already referred to by other members of this list) - see figure N°
142.

Best wishes,
Peter Adriaens
Belgium


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Subject: RFI: Owls of Chiapas
From: Dan Lockshaw <dan100(AT)COX.NET>
Date: 3 Mar 2002 6:31pm

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Hi All,
 I am heading to Chiapas in two weeks to search for owls. I will be =
photographing, recording and videoing as much as possible to add to my =
web site, Owling.com.
 Below is a list of owls that I am searching for in Chiapas. I am hoping =
that some of you may have experience with Chiapas and might help me out. =
If you can assist with any known locations or good areas in Chiapas for =
any of the following species (below), please help me out.
 I assume most people on this list are familiar with Owling.com but for =
those who are not, please except my invitation to visit and enjoy the =
owls ( http://owling.com ) found in North and Central America.
 The birds I will be searching for in the 2+ weeks in Chiapas are as =
follows:
Aegolius ridgwayi - Unspotted Saw-whet Owl
Asio clamator - Striped Owl
Asio stygius - Stygian Owl (might as well toss this in there)
Glaucidium griseiceps - Central American Pygmy-Owl
Lophostrix cristata - Crested Owl
Otus barbarus - Bearded Screech-Owl
Otus choliba - Tropical Screech-Owl
Otus cooperi - Pacific Screech-Owl
Pulsatrix perspicillata - Spectacled Owl
Strix nigrolineata - Black-and-White Owl
Strix fulvescens - Fulvous Owl

Thank you in advance and good birding,
Dan Lockshaw
http://owling.com
dan100(AT)cox.net
dan(AT)owling.com
Aliso Viejo, CA

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Subject: Pictures of Painted Bunting (fwd)
From: ian paulsen <ipaulsen(AT)KRL.ORG>
Date: 3 Mar 2002 9:13pm

HI Frontiers:
 Can anyone tell me what age/sex class this bird is? Pyle 1997 book states
that some females can have a few red and blue feathers.
sincerely

Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
ipaulsen(AT)krl.org
A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
"Rallidae all the way"

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Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 19:24:34 -0800
From: Ilene Samowitz <ilenesamowitz(AT)attbi.com>
To: tweeters(AT)u.washington.edu
Subject: Pictures of Painted Bunting

I thank lots of you for help in answering my questions on bird
photography/digiscoping.  I have just started getting my equipment together.
I am currently shooting pictures with a Coolpix 900 through my Leica 77 APO
scope with a 20X eyepiece.  I am handholding them.

Here is the website to see the two pictures I took today of the Painted
Bunting.

http://photos.yahoo.com/rockawaybirder select album birds.

Please let me know if you have any problems accessing them.

Ilene Samowitz
Cedar Park, NE Seattle (N of Matthews Beach)


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Subject: Need Photo Comparison
From: "D.W. King" <cerulean(AT)oneimage.com>
Date: 5 Mar 2002 8:16am

I just found early arriving 2 sparrows.  All conditions here in Boulder
County say
winter, although our CFO records have shifted to spring.

I am interested in obtaining photos comparing the following:
    Lincoln's Sparrow     1st Winter or Hatch Year
    Song Sparrow           after Hatch Year but not full adult yet
    Vesper Sparrow        Winter adult versus Hatch Year

Can anyone out there help?
    D.W. King         Lyons,Colorado         cerulean(AT)oneimage.com


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Subject: Larus canus from DE
From: Matt Sharp <sharp(AT)ACNATSCI.ORG>
Date: 5 Mar 2002 10:49am

Hello

Martin Reid has graciously set up a web-page at www.martinreid.com/megup11.html
for a gull that was found at the Cherry Island Landfill outside of Wilmington DE
 on 2/15/02 by myself and George Armistead.

Based on the photos can this bird be identified to subspecies (or species
depending on whoose taxonomy you are following)?

In the field it struck us as being too large, long-billed, and dark mantled for
either Larus canus canus or L. c. brachyrhynchus.  So much so that we never were
 quite sure of it's identity until after we got George's photos developed (and
we are still not quite sure other than it is definitley Larus canus in the broad
 sense).

In direct comparison to the many Ring-billed Gulls present it fell within the
range of size variation for that species. It was as large, or larger than some
individuals, but slightly smaller than others.  Unfortunately we were not able
to get photos, or even a clear view of the spread-wing while the bird was in
flight.
The mantle shade relative to Ring-billed is well presented in the photos, as is
the bill shape and size.

Please send responses to BOTH sharp(AT)acnatsci.org and
georgearmistead(AT)hotmail.com.  Many thanks and enjoy

Matt Sharp
VIREO/Academy of Natural Sciences
Phila. PA


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Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Maryland Kelp Gull Review Status
         Report (fwd)
From: ian paulsen <ipaulsen(AT)KRL.ORG>
Date: 7 Mar 2002 5:31pm

HI ALL:
 I thought this might be of interest??

Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
ipaulsen(AT)krl.org
A.K.A.: "Birdbooker"
"Rallidae all the way"

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Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 18:32:55 -0500
From: Phil Davis <pdavis(AT)IX.NETCOM.COM>
To: BIRDCHAT(AT)listserv.arizona.edu
Subject: [BIRDCHAT] Maryland Kelp Gull Review Status Report

Chatters -

The MD/DC Records Committee (MD/DCRC) held its 2002 Annual Meeting two
weeks ago. (Minutes of that meeting can be found on the MD/DCRC web pages.
The URL is in my signature block).

The Kelp Gull was the subject of much discussion. Even though there is no
"decision" on the gull at this time, we wanted to update the birding public
on the status of the review. A status summary prepared by our committee
Chair, Paul O'Brien, is presented below.

Phil

>Date:         Thu, 7 Mar 2002 15:45:58 EST
>From:         Paul O'Brien <PObrien776(AT)AOL.COM>
>Subject: [MDOSPREY] Maryland Kelp Gull Review
>To:           MDOSPREY(AT)HOME.EASE.LSOFT.COM
>
>Birders,
>
>The Maryland/DC Records Committee has now gathered a good deal of
>background material bearing on the specific identification and possible
>origin of the famous Sandgates, MD (Sea Breeze Restaurant) Kelp Gull.  We
>consider that the status of this bird can now be reviewed with
>significantly increased understanding and insight.
>
>  The delay of our review was brought about by our attempts to get a DNA
>analysis to provide information as to the possible hybrid parentage of the
>MD bird, and to gather as much information as we could find on this species.
>Mark Hoffman and Jane Kostenko were able to retrieve a few feathers that
>dropped from the preening gull and these were sent out for DNA analyses.
>Unfortunately, for a variety of  technical reasons the resulting DNA
>pattern could not be compared with known patterns from  Kelp Gulls.  In
>addition, it seems that further attempts at DNA analysis at this time would
>be unlikely to give a definitive answer as to the parentage of the MD KEGU
>because, for some regions of DNA in large white-headed gulls individual
>variation within species is as great as interspecific variation, and, for
>other regions, appropriate studies of Kelp Gulls have not yet been made.
>However, we have obtained expert opinions to the effect that structure,
>plumage and soft parts coloration are at this time more reliable indicators
>of hybrid status.  Furthermore, at least one expert sees no indication that
>the MD KEGU is anything other than a full KEGU, based on the photo in
>Birding World, Vol. 14, page 113, 2001.
>
>The other knotty issue is, of course, origin.  Thanks to the efforts of our
>former chair, Harvey Mudd, we have come into possession of a preprint of a
>paper (due out this month) by Frederic Jiguet in which he outlines biometric
>and plumage differences among five discrete populations of KEGUs from South
>America, Antarctica, Africa, Madagascar and the South Indian Ocean.  Using
>Jiguet's criteria, our analyses of photographs of the MD KEGU suggest that
>it is not derived from any of the populations other than the South American.
>  Dr. Jiguet has been kind enough to confirm that, in his opinion, this
>conclusion is correct.   The history we have been able to learn of the known
>collections of KEGUs in this country suggests these birds are all derived
>from eggs imported from Antarctica by Sea World (information supplied by
>Donna Dittmann, LSUMNS).   The Antarctic forms of Kelp Gull can be reliably
>distinguished from the South American forms on the basis of the  biometric
>and plumage differences described by Jiguet.  Therefore, it would appear
>there are indications that the MD KEGU may not be an escapee from the Sea
>World collections.
>
>That is where the matter stands at this time.  We will be sending the
>documentation out for review shortly and will inform the birding community of
>the outcome as soon as it is available.
>
>Paul J. O'Brien, Chair
>MD/DC Records Committee
>Rockville, Mont. Co., MD
>pobrien776(AT)aol.com

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Phil Davis, Secretary
MD/DC Records Committee
2549 Vale Court
Davidsonville, Maryland  21035     USA
301-261-0184
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Subject: A new quiz bird
From: Michel Bertrand <bertrmi(AT)COLBA.NET>
Date: 8 Mar 2002 8:42am

I have only a minute to tell you that a new mystery bird is on QuébecOiseaux
quiz webpage at
http://www.quebecoiseaux.qc.ca/HTML/Defi.html

I will send a translation of the webpage text during the weekend, but you
can see rigth now if that bird is challenging for you. When answering, don't
forget to include your complete name and postal address (it's a rule to make
you eligible for the prizes).

Please don't include my message with your answer (because I have to print a
work copy of all the received answers when writing the official answer for
the magazine).

Good luck ! Have fun...

     MICHEL BERTRAND
     Sainte-Julie, Qc
     bertrmi(AT)colba.net

Caressez longuement votre phrase, et elle finira par sourire.
-- Anatole France