The Virtual Birder
The Virtual Birder ®
OnLocation
B-Mail
BIRDxxxx
BIRDCHAT
ID-FRONTIERS
BIRDHAWK
US:NewEngland
US:NewYork
US:MidAtlantic
US:South
US:MidWest
US:West
Canada
Families
Real Birds
Hot Links
Gallery
Media Shelf
Prizes
EdCentral
Rants & Raves
 
 
B-MAIL sm      
 

ID-FRONTIERS for December 1-6, 2003

[ Prev Week | Next Week | Calendar Month | ID-FRONTIERS Info ]

Messages are displayed in the order they were received.
 Subject From Date  Time 
 Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak?  Jean Iron   Tue, 2 Dec 2003  10:52am 
 Re: Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak?  Joseph Morlan   Tue, 2 Dec 2003  11:09am 
 "Prairie" Merlin  Joseph Morlan   Tue, 2 Dec 2003  11:23am 
 grosbeak ID  Paul Lehman   Tue, 2 Dec 2003  2:52pm 
 Re: Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak?  Les Chibana   Tue, 2 Dec 2003  5:55pm 
 Fw: Taxonomic Recommendations from the Association of European Records and Rartities Comittees  Jim Barton   Wed, 3 Dec 2003  12:45pm 
 Double glaucous  Alvaro Jaramillo   Thu, 4 Dec 2003  1:13am 
 Argentatus vs. hyperboreus: hybrid or not ?  Menotti Passarella   Thu, 4 Dec 2003  1:41am 
 Gnatcatcher  Joseph Morlan   Thu, 4 Dec 2003  9:07am 
 Re: Double glaucous  Stephen J. Davies  Thu, 4 Dec 2003  1:47pm 
 vegae vs smith x G-w  Phillip Pickering   Fri, 5 Dec 2003  8:22pm 
 Re: Gnatcatcher  Rich Hoyer   Fri, 5 Dec 2003  9:26pm 
 Re: vegae vs smith x G-w  Martin Reid   Sat, 6 Dec 2003  6:17am 
 Variation in Black Brant  Andrew Harrop   Sat, 6 Dec 2003  7:43am 
 Arizona Sphyrapicus  Mark Stevenson   Sat, 6 Dec 2003  8:06am 
 Re: Variation in Black Brant  Andy Guthrie   Sat, 6 Dec 2003  9:46am 
 Black Brant variation  Gary Felton   Sat, 6 Dec 2003  12:39pm 
To use email addresses replace '(AT)' with '@'.
This is done to confuse the spam 'bots.


[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak? From: Jean Iron <jeaniron(AT)SYMPATICO.CA> Date: 2 Dec 2003 10:52am Dear ID-Frontiers, There are three photos of an apparent first basic (first winter) male Black-headed Grosbeak or Rose-breasted Grosbeak at a feeder near Ottawa, Ontario. The upper mandible appears to be pale in two of the photos suggesting a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. We would appreciate comments. Go to the third item under 2003 to view photos http://www.ofo.ca/photos/ Ron Pittaway Jean Iron http://www3.sympatico.ca/jeaniron/ 9 Lichen Place Toronto ON M3A 1X3 416-445-9297
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak? From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan(AT)CCSF.ORG> Date: 2 Dec 2003 11:09am On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:51:51 -0500, Jean Iron <jeaniron(AT)SYMPATICO.CA> wrote: >There are three photos of an apparent first basic (first winter) male >Black-headed Grosbeak or Rose-breasted Grosbeak at a feeder near Ottawa, >Ontario. The upper mandible appears to be pale in two of the photos >suggesting a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. We would appreciate comments. Go to >the third item under 2003 to view photos http://www.ofo.ca/photos/ This is a Black-headed Grosbeak. Note the dark culmen on both photos. Also the apparent pale horn coloration on the maxilla look to me like highlights rather than the uniform pale ivory color of male Rose-breasted. -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044 jmorlan(AT)ccsf.org California Birding & new rarities http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: "Prairie" Merlin From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan(AT)CCSF.ORG> Date: 2 Dec 2003 11:23am I seek opinions on the racial identity of a Merlin I photographed in San Diego this weekend. Photo is at: http://community.webshots.com/photo/95025754/102752926MEcvop I felt it was F. c. richardsonii but this identification has been questioned as not being pale enough. In the field, I thought the upperparts were pale brownish-blue and the white tail bands seemed about the same width as the dark (except for the terminal dark bar). The thin eyeline and faint malar also seemed to me to be a better match for the richardsonii on pages 454-455 of Wheeler's new "Raptors of Western North America." -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044 jmorlan(AT)ccsf.org California Birding & new rarities http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: grosbeak ID From: Paul Lehman <lehman.paul(AT)VERIZON.NET> Date: 2 Dec 2003 2:52pm IDFrontiers: I agree with Joe that the bird is certainly a Black-headed Grosbeak. Bill color looks OK. Also, the breast color and pattern, and black flight feathers, would suggest that it is older than in its first fall/winter. --Paul Lehman
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Rose-breasted or Black-headed Grosbeak? From: Les Chibana <les(AT)BIRDNUTZ.COM> Date: 2 Dec 2003 5:55pm This is not as easy for me, who doesn't have enough field experience with Rose-breasted in various seasonal plumage. I looked at a few guides, NGS and Sibley, and read through Pyle. It was nice to see that these references noted the difficulty of IDing this plumage. I should probably just be silent but perhaps I can at least muddy the waters a bit. BHGR = Black-headed Grosbeak RBGR = Rose-breasted Grosbeak HY = hatch-year (immature plumage) (SY = second year, a hatch year bird after Jan. 1 and before a pre- alternate molt, which is questionable in these species) AHY = after hatch-year (adult plumage) rects = rectrices, tail feathers AGE In photo 1, the rects appear brownish, and to my eye, tapered, which is a HY characteristic. However, judging tapered vs. truncate shapes can be tough in a photo on the web. Also, the brownishness could be a factor of the way the image was prepared for the web. The high contrast background snow could have affected the overall contrast in the bird's plumage. I CAN see subtle differences in the darkness of the tail and the crown and wings. Another possible HY feature is contrast between replaced and retained rects, where the central rects (R1) are darker & blacker than the outers. This apparently shows up in a only a small percentage of individuals, but is useful if present. While this contrast can show up in an image of unknown processing, it doesn't appear to be the case with this bird. This is probably an inconclusive image for ageing. Photo 2 doesn't seem to have anything that I could use for ageing. The 3rd photo shows the primary coverts fairly well. These look dark and even in tone with the greater coverts and primaries. This tips the age scale to AHY. Another feature showing in photo 3 are the white bases of the primaries that form that white panel below the lower wingbar. I'm not clear on how this patch should be measured. Pyle notes measurements for this feature, stating that one measures the white beyond the tip of the longest primary covert. But I can't find any clarification if this means measuring along the primary right below the longest covert [P8?], or if you measure across two primaries to the widest point of the white patch on P6[?]. If anyone knows, please educate me. For Rose-breasted: HY females should have -2 to +2 mm of white (minus values don't show); HY males 4 to 14 mm. AHY females should be 0 to 4 mm; AHY males 14 - 24 mm. For Black-headed: HY females should have -5 to +2 mm of white; HY males 4 to 9 mm. AHY females should be 0 to 6 mm; AHY males 11 - 19 mm. Since it's unclear how to measure this, and since this bird wasn't measured, this may be a moot point. Age doesn't seem to be conclusive by this feature (but see sex). SEX The white panel showing at the base of the primaries in photos 1 & 3 might be useful if the measurements fall in the extreme ends of the range of possibilities. The uncertainty was noted in the previous paragraph. One might guess that this bird is a male because the extent of white seems to at least exceed the 4 to 6 mm maximum for AHY female. Something that I'm seeing in photo 3, that could be my imagination, is a bit of a rosy wash on the mid to upper breast and at the bend of the wing below the covering breast flank feathers, as well as on the flanks of the breast. I see this on both of my CRT monitors (Sony Trinitron Multiscan and Hitachi SuperScan hooked up to a G4 Mac). This weighs in favor of male Rose-breasted Grosbeak. However, this is not apparent in photo 2, which I would expect to show more clearly because of the orientation of and lighting on the bird. So, chalk that up as imagination. SPECIES Photo 1 doesn't show the contrast between a tawny or cinnamon rump and the streaked back which is a feature of male Black-headed Grosbeak. This may be due to the image quality. In Pyle, the difference in belly/flank streaking is noted only between females of the species. I can't find any indication if this is useful for males. There are some very fine streaks on the lower flanks and maybe the belly, seen in photo 3, but not in photo 2. As with many common species that winter elsewhere, I am lacking in knowledge of what even BHGR look like in winter. Well, hopefully there was some value in what I could dig up. Les Chibana, Palo Alto CA On Tuesday, December 2, 2003, at 09:51 AM, Jean Iron wrote: > Dear ID-Frontiers, > > There are three photos of an apparent first basic (first winter) male > Black-headed Grosbeak or Rose-breasted Grosbeak at a feeder near > Ottawa, > Ontario. The upper mandible appears to be pale in two of the photos > suggesting a Rose-breasted Grosbeak. We would appreciate comments. Go > to > the third item under 2003 to view photos http://www.ofo.ca/photos/ > > Ron Pittaway > > Jean Iron > http://www3.sympatico.ca/jeaniron/ > 9 Lichen Place > Toronto ON M3A 1X3 > 416-445-9297 >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Fw: Taxonomic Recommendations from the Association of European Records and Rartities Comittees From: Jim Barton <redwingatfp1986(AT)COMCAST.NET> Date: 3 Dec 2003 12:45pm Hello. The AERC Taxonomic Advisory Committee's press release below was forwarded to UKBirdnet by Norman van Swelm. I think many people will find the species discussions of interest on both sides of the pond. Don't skip the front matter, where the Committee presents an overview of the several different approaches to speciation which it applied in arriving at its recommendations. Yours, Jim Barton redwingatfp1986(AT)comcast.net Cambridge, MA US Coordinator, Proact campaigning for birds and their habitats before it's too late www.proact-campaigns.net ASSOCIATION OF EUROPEAN RECORDS AND RARITIES COMMITTEES Press Release 1 December 2003 AERC TAC's Taxonomic Recommendations Please find on http://aerc.be/aerc_tac.htm the latest taxonomic recommendations of the Taxonomy Advisory Committee of the AERC. >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Double glaucous From: Alvaro Jaramillo <chucao(AT)COMCAST.NET> Date: 4 Dec 2003 1:13am Folks British Columbia to California in winter is the land of hybrid gulls. They can make a sizeable proportion of a big gull group here in Half Moon Bay, California. The most common hybrid is Western x Glaucous-winged, and much less common but not that unusual is Glaucous-winged x Herring. The one hybrid that is pretty rare here is Glaucous x Glaucous-winged Gull, as is Herring x Glaucous. Now remember that these are assumed to be hybrids due to structural and plumage features that don't quite fit with the pure forms. We don't really know if these individual birds we see are hybrids, but most probably are. Today I saw one bird that could be a Glaucous x Glaucous-winged Gull, in its second plumage cycle. The bird was structurally intermediate between the two, but had a long and rather parallel-edged bill like Glaucous. The bill pattern was typically Glaucous. Body plumage was somewhat like Glaucous-winged Gull except that it showed a contrasting whiter head and underparts. The primaries were paler than the tertials, and on close inspection were dark only on their tips, the bases were white. I did not see the bird in flight. Also note that it is in its second year but has dark eyes, a Glaucous-winged feature. http://chucao.home.comcast.net/palethayer.html cheers Alvaro Alvaro Jaramillo chucao(AT)comcast.net Montara, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide http://www.fieldguides.com/home.htm
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Argentatus vs. hyperboreus: hybrid or not ? From: Menotti Passarella <menotti.passarella(AT)LIBERO.IT> Date: 4 Dec 2003 1:41am I think this photo taken in Italy is very interesting: http://www.geocities.com/migliarino2004/Gabb17-6.JPG Cheers Menotti Passarella, Italy
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Gnatcatcher From: Joseph Morlan <jmorlan(AT)CCSF.ORG> Date: 4 Dec 2003 9:07am This Blue-gray Gnatcatcher was photographed 2 Dec 2003 at near Clarkdale, Arizona. However I was wondering if it might possibly be a Black-capped Gnatcatcher. I realize it's way out of range but it seems to have a very long thin bill, graduated tail tip, contrasting brownish back.... http://www.naturesongs.com/photos/bggn8175-1s.jpg -- Joseph Morlan, Pacifica, CA 94044 jmorlan(AT)ccsf.org California Birding & new rarities http://fog.ccsf.org/~jmorlan/ California Bird Records Committee http://www.wfo-cbrc.org/cbrc/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Double glaucous From: "Stephen J. Davies" <sdavies(AT)cgl.ucsf.edu> Date: 4 Dec 2003 1:47pm Alvaro and co This bird reminds me of a couple of first-year birds we've had in Northern California in recent winters. While superficially resembling Glaucous Gull, they've exhibited features that aren't quite right for that species (mostly relating to bill shape and coloration, and possibly head shape). Photos of two such birds can be found here: www.badboybirding.com/GLGUxGWGU_home.htm The first of these birds was also discussed on Joe Morlan's website some time ago (I believe Joe still has this page up: http://fog.ccsf.cc.ca.us/~jmorlan/apr01.htm). Might hybridization between Glaucous and Glaucous-winged Gulls result in birds that look like this? While these two are first-years, one feature they share with Alvaro's bird is the extensive black tip to the bill, with black bleeding back along the cutting edge of the mandible (unlike the neat "dipped in ink" black bill tip of typical Glaucous Gull). Cheers Stephen Stephen J. Davies San Francisco, CA "I spent most of my money on booze, birds and fast cars. The rest I just squandered" - George Best www.badboybirding.com -----Original Message----- From: NBHC ID-FRONTIERS Frontiers of Field Identification [mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Alvaro Jaramillo Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 12:14 AM To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU Subject: [BIRDWG01] Double glaucous Folks British Columbia to California in winter is the land of hybrid gulls. They can make a sizeable proportion of a big gull group here in Half Moon Bay, California. The most common hybrid is Western x Glaucous-winged, and much less common but not that unusual is Glaucous-winged x Herring. The one hybrid that is pretty rare here is Glaucous x Glaucous-winged Gull, as is Herring x Glaucous. Now remember that these are assumed to be hybrids due to structural and plumage features that don't quite fit with the pure forms. We don't really know if these individual birds we see are hybrids, but most probably are. Today I saw one bird that could be a Glaucous x Glaucous-winged Gull, in its second plumage cycle. The bird was structurally intermediate between the two, but had a long and rather parallel-edged bill like Glaucous. The bill pattern was typically Glaucous. Body plumage was somewhat like Glaucous-winged Gull except that it showed a contrasting whiter head and underparts. The primaries were paler than the tertials, and on close inspection were dark only on their tips, the bases were white. I did not see the bird in flight. Also note that it is in its second year but has dark eyes, a Glaucous-winged feature. http://chucao.home.comcast.net/palethayer.html cheers Alvaro Alvaro Jaramillo chucao(AT)comcast.net Montara, California Field Guides - Birding Tours Worldwide http://www.fieldguides.com/home.htm
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: vegae vs smith x G-w From: Phillip Pickering <philliplc(AT)HARBORSIDE.COM> Date: 5 Dec 2003 8:22pm Last week I videotaped this large adult dark-eyed Herring-type gull on the central Oregon coast. Its primaries were slightly but perceptibly paler than black, and the "black" was largely restricted to the outer webs above the mirrors on P9-10, so I assume it's most likely just a smithsonianus x Glaucous- winged. However I thought it otherwise showed striking similarity to larus vegae based on photo study, particularly the P10 mirror size and distinct white tongues on P8-5, and also some structural features. The breast/head streaking looked fine to me for Herring, with no fine G-w-like vermiculations on the breast such as shown by some more obvious hybrids. Pardon crummy video capture image quality: http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull01.jpg http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull02.jpg http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull03.jpg http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull04.jpg http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull05.jpg http://www.harborside.com/~philliplc/drgull06.jpg Assuming this isn't a vegae, I'm wondering just how closely a smith x G-w could mirror vegae's features, and how you would confidently differentiate out of vegae's normal winter range (or if it's even possible with current state of knowledge). I've been able to find numerous adult vegae photos on the web, but none showing spread primary pattern (there is one vegae photo in Grant with primaries partially spread), so I'd appreciate any photo reference or comments. Also is vegae known to interbreed with Glaucous-winged or Glaucous? Cheers, Phil Pickering Lincoln City, Oregon philliplc(AT)harborside.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Gnatcatcher From: Rich Hoyer <calliope(AT)THERIVER.COM> Date: 5 Dec 2003 9:26pm Hi All, I think this is a Blue-gray Gnatcatcher. What I can see of the actual back looks gray; only the wing coverts seem to have a tinge of brown. Besides that, the outermost tail feathers are nicely visible, and they are too long for Black-capped Gnatcatcher. Good Birding, Rich --- Rich Hoyer Tucson, Arizona Senior Field Leader WINGS, Inc. http://www.wingsbirds.com ---
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: vegae vs smith x G-w From: Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET> Date: 6 Dec 2003 6:17am Dear Phil and fellow larophiles, Thanks for providing an interesting bird to study. Before commenting I must tell you that I've seen precisely ONE adult Vega Gull... but I have studied them extensively in 100+ images from Japan, Korea and Alaska. Here are some reference sites: http://larus.hp.infoseek.co.jp/vega.html - the fabulous gull site by the Ujiharas. http://www.wbkenglish.com/lwhgid.asp#section4 - a work-in-progress section in the tremendous Korean Conservation/Birding site http://www.martinreid.com/veguinx.html - mostly summer birds from AK, plus the first VEGU from the "Lower 48". I can see that your bird is vegaely (ouch) like a Vega Gull, but there are a number of tell-tale differences that I see: A) Head pattern: On VEGU the streaking on the crown and face seems always to be strictly longitudinal; your bird has fairly obvious transverse patterns right in the crown - a strong sign of GWGU genes, I feel. B) Face pattern: the eye looks too small for the face, and is placed high up - just like GWGU and unlike any of the HERG assemblage; also, the patch of almost smooth dark below the eye is wrong for VEGU and again strongly indicative of GWGU genes. C) Breast markings: VEGU does often have transverse bars here, but intermixed with many vertical streaks; your bird seems to me almost all barring; the very few "VEGU" images that approach (but not match) this degree of barring seem to be questionable as pure VEGUs (maybe they are indeed VEGUxGWGUs?) D) Primary molt: your bird seems to have a molt score of 50, or at the most, 49. In late Nov/early Dec this is at least 4 - 5 weeks early for typical VEGU, and may only be matched by a tiny number of advanced-molt VEGUs, if at all. E) Primary pattern: While most VEGUs have less black in the Ps than most Smiths, the black is pure black, and the actual delineation between the black and the gray is clean and similar to the HERG assemblage, with P10 being all-black (both webs) from above and has only a short, clean gray basal tongue on the inner web from below - your bird is much more like a SBGU pattern of merging - actually the upperpart contrast between the inner and outer webs is too sharp for even SBGU. The white subterminal "pearls" are variable in VEGU, but when present are normally roundish spots, rather than thin crescents. F) leg color: a minor point given that we have no comparative data, but they legs look a bit washed-out, with a hint of grayish/yellow in the tarsus; typical VEGU has strongly pink legs like SBGU and some HERGs. I'd be very interested in feedback on my comments - especially if I'm wrong! Good Gulling, Martin Martin Reid Fort Worth, Texas mailto:upupa(AT)airmail.net http://www.martinreid.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Variation in Black Brant From: Andrew Harrop <andrew.harrop(AT)VIRGIN.NET> Date: 6 Dec 2003 7:43am Dear All, There has been some discussion in the UK recently about the acceptable parameters of variation in vagrant Black Brants. It would be useful to know your views on variation in: collar - can it be broken at the front, and if so what proportion of birds show this? darkness of upperparts and lower breast - how much contrast can there be between the upper and lower breast? Also, how frequently are intergrades observed in the N. American populations? Many thanks, and best wishes. Andrew Harrop andrew.harrop(AT)virgin.net
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Arizona Sphyrapicus From: Mark Stevenson <drbrdr(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 6 Dec 2003 8:06am Hi All, An interesting sapsucker currently present at Patagonia Lake State Park, Arizona has sparked some disagreement over whether it is Sphyrapicus ruber daggetti or Sphyrapicus nuchalis or a hybrid involving ruber or........ Some photos that I took yesterday are viewable at: http://members.cox.net/cdbenesh/sapsucker.html I would appreciate your comments. Mark Stevenson Tucson, AZ
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Variation in Black Brant From: Andy Guthrie <andyguthrie(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 6 Dec 2003 9:46am There has been increasing interest & scrutiny of this issue in New York State where we search for Black Brant in the large wintering flocks of Atlantic (hrota) Brant. Following the discovery of an "intermediate" type Brant last winter, Angus Wilson put together a comprehensive review of the situation from an eastern NA perspective, at: http://www.oceanwanderers.com/IntrmBrantNY.html The web page includes links to reference photos of Black Brant from California showing some degree of variation, and also links to more pages by Angus on other problematic birds and Black Brant from NY. Any additional thoughts on the situation would be welcome. We haven't noticed any Black Brant & intermediate types so far this year - they seem more frequent later in winter & toward early spring. Incidentally, it seems like it was an excellent breeding year for Atlantic Brant. Several spot counts so far this fall have shown flocks to be about 50% young birds, as opposed to last year when numbers of young were much lower. Cheers, Andy Guthrie Greenwich, CT andyguthtrie(AT)earthlink.net Andy Guthrie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andrew Harrop" <andrew.harrop(AT)VIRGIN.NET> To: <BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 9:41 AM Subject: [BIRDWG01] Variation in Black Brant > Dear All, > > There has been some discussion in the UK recently about the acceptable > parameters of variation in vagrant Black Brants. It would be useful to know > your views on variation in: > > collar - can it be broken at the front, and if so what proportion of birds > show this? > darkness of upperparts and lower breast - how much contrast can there be > between the upper and lower breast? > > Also, how frequently are intergrades observed in the N. American > populations? > > Many thanks, and best wishes. > Andrew Harrop > andrew.harrop(AT)virgin.net
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Black Brant variation From: Gary Felton <gljeinwv(AT)JUNO.COM> Date: 6 Dec 2003 12:39pm This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ----__JNP_000_6b25.4945.1c56 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I had a Black Brant here (northcentral West Virginia) in May of 2002. Without seeing the bird, someone raised the possibility that this bird could have been a Gray-bellied. I circulated a poor-quality, video capture of the bird and got several mixed responses from, "it looks like a black to me", to "it could be a black, or a gray-bellied", to "it's too light to be a black" Since I submitted this to the WV records committee, I did an extensive amount of research on both Pacific Black and Gray-bellied and consequently sought as many photographs of and as much information on Black Brants as I could get my hands on. The only Black Brant I've seen was the one here, so I had to rely on the opinions of west coast birders I spoke with and all of the information I obtained which included the Birding World articles, "Identification of Grey-bellied Brant" by Martin Garner and Richard Millington and "Black, Dark-bellied and Pale-bellied Brent Geese" by Richard Millington. I also managed to obtain some quality footage of a Black Brant that was taken in Alaska. The brant in the Alaska footage matched the bird I had here in every aspect including coloration, necklace and the amount of contrast between the neck sock and the lower breast (which wasn't considerable, but noticeable nonetheless). Based on everything I've seen and heard, there's more variation on Black Brant in regards to the amount of contrast between the neck sock and lower breast than is the accepted notion. It's obvious that the amount of neck-sock/lower breast contrast on a Black Brant viewed at a distance in overcast conditions is going to appear considerably less than on a close Black Brant in bright sunlight. Birds of Europe, NGS, Sibley and Ducks, Geese and Swans of NA by Frank Bellrose, all illustrate Black Brants with a varying degree of neck-sock/lower breast contrast and I think there's a reason for that. Either they're all incorrect, but one, or they're all correct due to plumage variation among Black Brants. The Black Brant that was here was very dark brown below with very little contrast between the neck sock and lower breast, but the contrast was, as I pointed out, noticeable. I've believe I've read that females, especially in the spring, tend to be lighter below than males, which I believe accounted for the skepticism from some birders who viewed the video capture of the bird here. I'd be interested in hearing from west coast birders as to their views in regards to just how dark Black Brant are below and which of the field guides that I mentioned most accurately illustrates Black Brant. Regarding necklace, every Black Brant photograph I've seen shows an extensive, unbroken necklace and that was definitley the case with the Black Brant that was here. For anyone interested in this topic, I suggest they check the Washingotn Brant Foundation web page at http://www.washingtonbrant.org/ and watch the slide show at the link for the Arctic Brant Research Now Underway Satellite Telemetry Project for 2002... . The slide show contains photos of both Black and Gray-bellied Brant that were taken on Melville Island. Gary Felton Kingwood, WV GLJEINWV(AT)JUNO.COM ----__JNP_000_6b25.4945.1c56 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- ----__JNP_000_6b25.4945.1c56--

[ Prev Week | Next Week | Calendar Month | ID-FRONTIERS Info ]
Send feedback on these pages to: BMail@greatblue.com
B-Mail Message Content Disclaimer
Layout Copyright © 1999-2001 Great Blue Media Works
Last Updated: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:52pm MT