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| Subject | From | Date | Time |
| RF opinions on two shorebirds | Martin Reid | Sun, 7 Aug 2005 | 4:25am |
| Fw: [EBN] Re: Some unidentified birds | Norman D.van Swelm | Sun, 7 Aug 2005 | 4:25am |
| Re: RF opinions on two shorebirds | Bruce Deuel | Mon, 8 Aug 2005 | 1:47pm |
| Surfbirds question | Lethaby, Nick | Mon, 8 Aug 2005 | 2:08pm |
| Re: Surfbirds question | Tim Avery | Mon, 8 Aug 2005 | 2:30pm |
| Re: Surfbirds question | Lethaby, Nick | Mon, 8 Aug 2005 | 2:39pm |
| Re: Surfbirds question | Elliot Kirschbaum | Tue, 9 Aug 2005 | 6:28am |
| bashing stumps for Magellanic Woodpecker in Chile | BrdBk(AT)AOL.COM | Wed, 10 Aug 2005 | 8:35am |
| Re: Red-tailed Hawk? | Floyd Hayes | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 11:13am |
| Sorry... | Jim Barton | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 1:34pm |
| Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana- opinions
solicited | Caleb Putnam | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 3:47pm |
| Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited | Lethaby, Nick | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 4:34pm |
| Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited | Mike Patterson | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 5:14pm |
| Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited | Jason Rogers | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 8:53pm |
| Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited | miguel demeulemeeste | Thu, 11 Aug 2005 | 11:01pm |
| Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper | Kevin Karlson | Fri, 12 Aug 2005 | 10:55am |
| Dunne's new book | Ian Paulsen | Fri, 12 Aug 2005 | 11:15am |
| Re: Dunne's new book | sharonks(AT)MN.RR.COM | Fri, 12 Aug 2005 | 1:42pm |
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Subject: RF opinions on two shorebirds
From: Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET>
Date: 7 Aug 2005 4:25am
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Dear All,
Ian Boustead recently posted some wonderful images of shorebirds to
the North America Common/Scarce page at Surfbirds:
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery20
- I'd like to solicit opinions on the Id. of the adult Dowitcher and
also the adult Golden Plover both from July 31 - thanks.
Martin
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Subject: Fw: [EBN] Re: Some unidentified birds
From: "Norman D.van Swelm" <Norman.vanswelm(AT)wxs.nl>
Date: 7 Aug 2005 4:25am
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Subject: [EBN] Re: Some unidentified birds
Dear All
greeting from a warm (46c) and humid Bahrain - although currently only a =
few in number and despite the weather Bahrain's resident birders =
continue to turn up a good number of oddities amongst the returning =
migrants themselves starting to be observed in ever increasing numbers.
All our current batch of oddities can be viewed at the following page=20
http://www.hawar-islands.com/breakingnews.html
This last weekend Juhani Kyyr=F6 juhani.kyyro(AT)sci.fi =
www.virtual-bird.com turned up the following individuals - excellents =
photographs of the birds are available see below
the first bird most probably an escape is thought to be a Chestnut =
Sparrow Passer eminibey but I could well be completely wrong on this ID =
this is a guess - therefore I would be grateful for any assistance see =
"requiring identification" on page above or to view the photographs =
direrctly follow the link below
http://www.hawar-islands.com/unknown_id.html
The second bird possing problems is a stange rufous coloured Collared =
Dove - I would be grateful for any assistance - to view its photographs =
follow the link below
http://www.hawar-islands.com/dove.html
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Subject: Re: RF opinions on two shorebirds
From: Bruce Deuel <BDEUEL(AT)DFG.CA.GOV>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 1:47pm
Hi all,
I'll get the ball rolling, unless somebody else posts before I finish,
by saying the dowitcher looks like a perfectly good adult Long-billed as
we know them here on the West Coast.
I'll withhold comment on the plover since I have so little opportunity
to study these, living inland as I do, that I'd just make a bigger fool
of myself than usual.
Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Redding, California
>>> Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET> 08/07/05 4:25 AM >>>
Dear All,
Ian Boustead recently posted some wonderful images of shorebirds to
the North America Common/Scarce page at Surfbirds:
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery20
- I'd like to solicit opinions on the Id. of the adult Dowitcher and
also the adult Golden Plover both from July 31 - thanks.
Martin
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Subject: Surfbirds question
From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby(AT)TI.COM>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 2:08pm
All:
Since a lot of posts come here with links to Surfbirds, I'd like to ask
about how this site works (or doesn't in my experience). At least on my
browser, I always end up on the same page there and clicking on the
Gallery links still takes you to that same page. There are no obvious
links (that work) to any of the content from the main page. I have
occasionally got to the photos by using the search facility but you
usually need to know more details about the photo.
Is anyone else having the same experience as me?
Nick Lethaby
DSP/BIOS Product Manager
Software Development Systems
Texas Instruments
805 562 5106
nlethaby(AT)ti.com
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[mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bruce Deuel
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 1:47 PM
To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDWG01] RF opinions on two shorebirds
Hi all,
I'll get the ball rolling, unless somebody else posts before I finish,
by saying the dowitcher looks like a perfectly good adult Long-billed as
we know them here on the West Coast.
I'll withhold comment on the plover since I have so little opportunity
to study these, living inland as I do, that I'd just make a bigger fool
of myself than usual.
Cheers,
Bruce Deuel
Redding, California
>>> Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET> 08/07/05 4:25 AM >>>
Dear All,
Ian Boustead recently posted some wonderful images of shorebirds to
the North America Common/Scarce page at Surfbirds:
http://www.surfbirds.com/cgi-bin/gallery/display.cgi?gallery=gallery20
- I'd like to solicit opinions on the Id. of the adult Dowitcher and
also the adult Golden Plover both from July 31 - thanks.
Martin
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Subject: Re: Surfbirds question
From: Tim Avery <tanager(AT)TIMAVERYBIRDING.COM>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 2:30pm
Nick adn Others,
Go to surfbirds.com
Click on the link that says North American Rare
or North American Scarce
or whatever you choose
SCROLL DOWN TO PICTURES. The pictures are about 1/2 way down, and there are
many pages of images. The site could be an awesome way to share rare bird
photos but very few people use it unfortuanately.
Good Birding
Tim Avery
Salt Lake City, UT and Southwest, WY
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Subject: Re: Surfbirds question
From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby(AT)TI.COM>
Date: 8 Aug 2005 2:39pm
OK. It turns out I was not scrolling down enough. Thanks everyone.
Nick Lethaby
DSP/BIOS Product Manager
Software Development Systems
Texas Instruments
805 562 5106
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[mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Tim Avery
Sent: Monday, August 08, 2005 2:30 PM
To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: Re: [BIRDWG01] Surfbirds question
Nick adn Others,
Go to surfbirds.com
Click on the link that says North American Rare
or North American Scarce
or whatever you choose
SCROLL DOWN TO PICTURES. The pictures are about 1/2 way down, and there
are
many pages of images. The site could be an awesome way to share rare
bird
photos but very few people use it unfortuanately.
Good Birding
Tim Avery
Salt Lake City, UT and Southwest, WY
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Subject: Re: Surfbirds question
From: Elliot Kirschbaum <kingfisher500(AT)ADELPHIA.NET>
Date: 9 Aug 2005 6:28am
on 8/8/05 5:08 PM, Lethaby, Nick at nlethaby(AT)TI.COM wrote:
> Since a lot of posts come here with links to Surfbirds, I'd like to ask
> about how this site works (or doesn't in my experience). At least on my
> browser, I always end up on the same page there and clicking on the
> Gallery links still takes you to that same page. There are no obvious
> links (that work) to any of the content from the main page. I have
> occasionally got to the photos by using the search facility but you
> usually need to know more details about the photo.
>
> Is anyone else having the same experience as me?
It looks like the same page when I click on a link, but when I scroll down I
see that it is really a new page. The address bar at the top of the browser
also shows a new address in that the gallery number has changed.
The problem seems to be that the page layout in combination with my window
size makes it appear at first that the page has not changed.
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Subject: bashing stumps for Magellanic Woodpecker in Chile
From: BrdBk(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 10 Aug 2005 8:35am
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Hello. Indeed, we vainly ased stumps from the Torres del Paine virtually
to the end of the South American continent, where we finally raised a pair of
Magelanic Woodpeckers with Black-browed Albatross passing along the coast and
through the Straights of Magellan right behind us.
Yours,
Jim Barton
Cambridge, MA
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Subject: Re: Red-tailed Hawk?
From: Floyd Hayes <floyd_hayes(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 11:13am
I have finally posted the comments of 16 respondents,
including Brian Wheeler and Bill Clark (authors of
"Hawks of North America," on the possible Red-tailed
Hawk in Trinidad.
The photo with a link to the comments is at:
http://www.geocities.com/secaribbirds/ttmysteryhawk
Unfortunately there is no consensus. Thanks again to
those of you who took the time to send your comments.
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Hidden Valley Lake, CA
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Subject: Sorry...
From: Jim Barton <redwingatfp1986(AT)COMCAST.NET>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 1:34pm
Sorry, the message about bashing stumps in imitation of Magellanic
Woodpeckers was intended for Birdchat.
Yours,
Jim Barton
redwingatfp1986(AT)comcast.net
Cambridge, MA
US Coordinator, Proact
campaigning for birds and their habitats
before it's too late
www.proact-campaigns.net
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Subject: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana- opinions
solicited
From: Caleb Putnam <larus10(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 3:47pm
ID Frontiers-
Bob Martinka found and photographed a very interesting juvenile peep in
Helena, Montana, USA today, 11 Aug 2005, which may or may not be a Spoonbill
Sandpiper. A few things about the bird seem somewhat wrong, including the
shape of the spatula and certain aspects of the plumage. Various
explanations have been thrown around including an aberrant juv. Semipalmated
Sandpiper or even (gasp!) a Red-necked Stint X Spoonbill Sandpiper. Several
of Bob's photos are viewable at:
http://community.webshots.com/album/420015255LEEslT
Opinions would be much appreciated, as it would possibly be the first inland
North American record of Spoonbill Sandpiper, and one of only a handful of
records anywhere on the continent. If Bob's field notes (especially
regarding foraging behavior and things like primary extension beyond the
tail tip) become available I will forward them to the list.
Cheers,
Caleb Putnam
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Subject: Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited
From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby(AT)TI.COM>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 4:34pm
Caleb:
I don't believe this is a Spoonbill Sandpiper. In addition to the shape
of the spatula, Spoobill Sands show a slight upturn to the tip of the
bill in sideways profile. Your bird definitely doesn't have that.
I think it's hard to comment on the plumage. My experience and most
photos I've seen of juvs is from birds in September. I think Dennis
Paulson has shown that juveniles (especially birds seen earlier in the
season) don't always show the 'sanderling-like' contrasting plumage that
is at least fairly typical in September.
I would agree that your bird is either an aberrant Semi-palmated
Sandpiper or a hybrid between that species (or a stint) and Spoonbill
Sand.
Nick Lethaby
DSP/BIOS Product Manager
Software Development Systems
Texas Instruments
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[mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Caleb Putnam
Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2005 3:47 PM
To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [BIRDWG01] Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana- opinions
solicited
ID Frontiers-
Bob Martinka found and photographed a very interesting juvenile peep in
Helena, Montana, USA today, 11 Aug 2005, which may or may not be a
Spoonbill
Sandpiper. A few things about the bird seem somewhat wrong, including
the
shape of the spatula and certain aspects of the plumage. Various
explanations have been thrown around including an aberrant juv.
Semipalmated
Sandpiper or even (gasp!) a Red-necked Stint X Spoonbill Sandpiper.
Several
of Bob's photos are viewable at:
http://community.webshots.com/album/420015255LEEslT
Opinions would be much appreciated, as it would possibly be the first
inland
North American record of Spoonbill Sandpiper, and one of only a handful
of
records anywhere on the continent. If Bob's field notes (especially
regarding foraging behavior and things like primary extension beyond the
tail tip) become available I will forward them to the list.
Cheers,
Caleb Putnam
Caleb G Putnam
Grand Rapids, MI
larus10(AT)hotmail.com
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Subject: Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited
From: Mike Patterson <celata(AT)pacifier.com>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 5:14pm
If I put my finger over the funny knob on the end of the beak of this
bird, I see Semipalmated Sandpiper.
Like many of the folks who will no doubt be commenting on this bird,
I've never seen an actual Spoonbilled Sandpiper. But every reference
I can find says, that if I put my finger over the bill and focus on
the rest of the bird, I should see strong braces and pointier, less scale-
like scaps and coverts.
Caleb Putnam wrote:
>
> ID Frontiers-
>
> Bob Martinka found and photographed a very interesting juvenile peep in
> Helena, Montana, USA today, 11 Aug 2005, which may or may not be a Spoonbill
> Sandpiper. A few things about the bird seem somewhat wrong, including the
> shape of the spatula and certain aspects of the plumage. Various
> explanations have been thrown around including an aberrant juv. Semipalmated
> Sandpiper or even (gasp!) a Red-necked Stint X Spoonbill Sandpiper. Several
> of Bob's photos are viewable at:
>
> http://community.webshots.com/album/420015255LEEslT
>
> Opinions would be much appreciated, as it would possibly be the first inland
> North American record of Spoonbill Sandpiper, and one of only a handful of
> records anywhere on the continent. If Bob's field notes (especially
> regarding foraging behavior and things like primary extension beyond the
> tail tip) become available I will forward them to the list.
>
> Cheers,
> Caleb Putnam
>
> Caleb G Putnam
> Grand Rapids, MI
> larus10(AT)hotmail.com
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And now for something completely different... Salamanders
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Subject: Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited
From: Jason Rogers <hawkowl(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 8:53pm
There are, believe it or not, two records of Spoon-billed Sandpiper for
Alberta that have been accepted by the Alberta Bird Record Committee:
- two birds near Keoma (near Calgary) on 19 May 1984
- another sighting at same location on 9 May 1992
Each record consists of a description accompanied by sketches.
Regards,
Jason Rogers
Banff, AB
hawkowl(AT)hotmail.com
>From: Caleb Putnam <larus10(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
>Reply-To: Caleb Putnam <larus10(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
>To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
>Subject: [BIRDWG01] Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana- opinions
>solicited
>Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:46:59 -0600
>
>ID Frontiers-
>
>Bob Martinka found and photographed a very interesting juvenile peep in
>Helena, Montana, USA today, 11 Aug 2005, which may or may not be a
>Spoonbill Sandpiper. A few things about the bird seem somewhat wrong,
>including the shape of the spatula and certain aspects of the plumage.
>Various explanations have been thrown around including an aberrant juv.
>Semipalmated Sandpiper or even (gasp!) a Red-necked Stint X Spoonbill
>Sandpiper. Several of Bob's photos are viewable at:
>
>http://community.webshots.com/album/420015255LEEslT
>
>Opinions would be much appreciated, as it would possibly be the first
>inland North American record of Spoonbill Sandpiper, and one of only a
>handful of records anywhere on the continent. If Bob's field notes
>(especially regarding foraging behavior and things like primary extension
>beyond the tail tip) become available I will forward them to the list.
>
>Cheers,
>Caleb Putnam
>
>Caleb G Putnam
>Grand Rapids, MI
>larus10(AT)hotmail.com
>
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>www.michiganaudubon.org/specialty_tours.html
>
>
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Subject: Re: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana-
opinions solicited
From: miguel demeulemeester <miguel(AT)DEMEULEMEESTER.NET>
Date: 11 Aug 2005 11:01pm
As for bill shape, if this bird would be "10 miles out on the mud", maybe..., it
is difficult at times to judge the shape of the bill on a Spoonbilled
Sandpiper, personally witnessed in South Korea.
And as others did: put your finger covering the bill and one has a classic,
beautifully photographed Semipalmated Sandpiper...
Browse around on the web for 1cy Spoonbilled Sandpipers and you can immediately
see why...
see for example: http://aves.birdinkorea.net/report/03-09/page02.htm
Spoonies are more Little Stint-like with rusty edging to the tertails, rusty
crown, etc...
Regards,
Miguel Demeulemeester - Belgium
>
> > > From: Caleb Putnam <larus10(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
> > > Reply-To: Caleb Putnam <larus10(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
> > > To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
> > > Subject: [BIRDWG01] Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper in Montana- >
> > opinions solicited
> > > Date: Thu, 11 Aug 2005 16:46:59 -0600
> > >
> > > ID Frontiers-
> > >
> > > Bob Martinka found and photographed a very interesting juvenile
> > > peep in Helena, Montana, USA today, 11 Aug 2005, which may or
> > may > not be a Spoonbill Sandpiper. A few things about the bird
> > seem > somewhat wrong, including the shape of the spatula and
> > certain > aspects of the plumage. Various explanations have been
> > thrown > around including an aberrant juv. Semipalmated Sandpiper
> > or even > (gasp!) a Red-necked Stint X Spoonbill Sandpiper.
> > Several of > Bob's photos are viewable at:
> > >
> > > http://community.webshots.com/album/420015255LEEslT
> > >
> > > Opinions would be much appreciated, as it would possibly be the
> > > first inland North American record of Spoonbill Sandpiper, and
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Subject: Possible Spoonbill Sandpiper
From: Kevin Karlson <karlson3(AT)COMCAST.NET>
Date: 12 Aug 2005 10:55am
response by Kevin Karlson to possible Spoonbill Sandpiper report:
This bird is not a Spoonbill Sandpiper. It is a very typical example of
a juv Semipalmated Sandpiper, with a slight aberration to the bill tip.
Since juv Semipalmated Sandpipers are extremely variable in juv plumage
with respect to brightness and amount of rufous coloration to feather
edges and peachy color to the throat, the tendency is to reach for other
more exotic species when slight variations occur. I have seen and even
photographed a number of "peep" with deformed bills, especially bill
tips. The tips of shorebirds bills are flexible, allowing for movement
independent of the rest of the hard bill. This probably results in more
deformities in the prehensile tips. This bill tip is nothing like a
Spoonbill Sandpiper, and the plumage is also too drab. Spoonbills have
very bright feather edges to all upperpart feathers, including tertials,
similar to Little Stint. They also show darker feather centers on the
upperparts, and very bright rufous-buff wash across the throat and sides
of the breast. Semi typically shows a peach wash to the sides of the
upper breast, with a pale throat. Photos of juv Spoonbills that I have
seen have white mantle braces, similar to Little Stint, which Semi P
does not show. Juv Spoonbills also show a paler facial pattern, somewhat
like Western Sand rather than the almost hooded look to juv Semi's,
which have dark cheeks and cap. There is nothing about this bird to
suggest a hybrid between a Spoonbill and any other peep. It is simply a
typical juv Semi with a deformed bill tip.
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Subject: Dunne's new book
From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker(AT)ZIPCON.NET>
Date: 12 Aug 2005 11:15am
HI:
I read in the latest ABA's Winging It that Pete Dunne is to have
published next year a book called : Dunne on Birds. Does anyone know what
kind of bird book this is supposed to be, like a field guide?
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Subject: Re: Dunne's new book
From: sharonks(AT)MN.RR.COM
Date: 12 Aug 2005 1:42pm
As I understand it, it's a field guide without photos, with Dunne
explaining what he sees in the bird and how he identifies it. I think
it's along the lines of his jizz of each bird in North America.
Sharon Stiteler
Minneapolis, MN
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Date: Friday, August 12, 2005 1:16 pm
Subject: [BIRDWG01] Dunne's new book
> HI:
> I read in the latest ABA's Winging It that Pete Dunne is to have
> published next year a book called : Dunne on Birds. Does anyone
> know what
> kind of bird book this is supposed to be, like a field guide?
>
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Subject: Long-tailed Stint
From: SGMlod(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 13 Aug 2005 12:09pm
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Greetings All
A cautionary tail (pun intended).
So, I was birding my local patch, which was splendidly full of common and
uncommon shorebirds alike, when my friend (Steve Pink) and I found a gray
peep/stint with a long tail. The tail projection beyond the wing was similar to
that
of a Spotted Sandpiper.
Also, the outertail edge looked white when viewed with the bird perched (but
I've noticed Leasts, Westerns, etc can appear to have white outer edge to the
folded tail before).
We became quite excited about the possibility of Temminck's Stint.
Fortunately the bird was cooperative, good prolonged views were had, and (I
won't bore
with details) it was clearly a fresh basic-plumaged Least. I've seen a couple
of these in the last week or so (this place gets hundreds of Leasts and a few
do winter in the vicinity, presumably explaining the presence of birds having
molted into basic).
I'm not certain why the tail projected so far beyond the wings; perhaps the
tertails were not fully grown in (but primary tips were not visible or barely
visible). The long tail projection was easily apparent the entire 30 minutes or
so we viewed the bird.
In any case, something to keep in mind.
Cheers
Steven Mlodinow
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