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| Probable Solander's Petrel off California | Peter Pyle | Tue, 23 Aug 2005 | 8:58am |
| Fwd: Solander's screw-up? | sgmlod(AT)AOL.COM | Wed, 24 Aug 2005 | 6:05pm |
| Re: Probable Solander's Petrel off California | Nate Dias | Wed, 24 Aug 2005 | 7:41am |
| phalarope leg coloration | Bryan Guarente | Wed, 24 Aug 2005 | 9:37pm |
| Re: phalarope leg coloration | Hugh McGuinness | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 6:30am |
| Re: phalarope leg coloration | Lethaby, Nick | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 7:50am |
| Re: phalarope leg coloration | Kevin Karlson | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 8:03am |
| Pheucticus ID | GreatGrayOwl(AT)AOL.COM | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 11:49am |
| Re: phalarope leg coloration | OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 11:50am |
| Your opinion of this Jaeger... | Matt Orsie | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 7:54pm |
| Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger...Corrected web
address | Hugh McGuinness | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 8:03pm |
| North American Birds: latest issue | Ian Paulsen | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 9:06pm |
| Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger... | GreatGrayOwl(AT)AOL.COM | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 9:36pm |
| Juvenile Red Phalarope in TN | OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 11:07pm |
| Correct Address to Phalarope site | OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM | Thu, 25 Aug 2005 | 11:12pm |
| Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger... | Martin Reid | Fri, 26 Aug 2005 | 7:40am |
| Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger... | rsheil | Fri, 26 Aug 2005 | 2:16pm |
| Unusual Blue Grosbeak | Dave DeReamus | Sat, 27 Aug 2005 | 11:21pm |
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Subject: Probable Solander's Petrel off California
From: Peter Pyle <ppyle(AT)BIRDPOP.ORG>
Date: 23 Aug 2005 8:58am
Hi all -
On 8 August we observed a dark Pterodroma petrel 173 miles west of Cape
Mendocino that we've provisionally identified as a Solander's (Providence)
Petrel. I was able to obtain about 40 images, the best of which are now
posted on Debi Shearwater's site (thanks to Les Lieurance) at
http://www.shearwaterjourneys.com/images/SolandersPetrel.html
I would be interested in comment/confirmation, especially from those who
know this species. In life it appeared larger and lankier than Murphy's
Petrel (of which we had 2 in the same vicinity) and flew with much longer
arcs. Many plumage features appear to rule out Murphy's Petrel.
It was first spotted by Gary Fredrichsen and observed by Thomas Staudt and
myself. I chose to attempt obtaining digital images rather than studying it
in life, an interesting choice we are now having to make at sea. The bird
was observed as part of Southwest Fisheries Science Center's CSCAPE marine
mammal and seabird survey, a five-month effort that will cover all waters
between the Mexican and Canadian borders and out to 250 or 300 nautical
miles from shore. For more information, including trackline and weekly
reports, see
http://swfsc.nmfs.noaa.gov/PRD/PROJECTS/CSCAPE/default.htm
Apologies for the cross-posting.
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Subject: Fwd: Solander's screw-up?
From: sgmlod(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 24 Aug 2005 6:05pm
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Greetings All
I am sending this message to the entire listserv, as Terry Wahl's email to Peter
keeps bouncing back to him. Terry, as many of you know, spent many years at sea
censusing seabirds and has quite a collection of photos to rely upon.
Below is his second attempt to contact PPyle.
Cheers Steven Mlodinow
Hi, again, and maybe again
I don't know if you received my correction re:wrong description of SOPE's tail.
I messed up Steve Mlodinow's address for a copy and keep getting messages that
the note to you was not sent.
Anyway, Solander's does have a wedge-shaped tail, as shown by the photos on the
website. Murphy's is often pointed. Along with general, easier-appearing flight
style and other field marks Solander's is distinnctive. And I am confident you
had a Solander's.
You get this ID from an observer with newly-acquired credibility problems, of
course.
Best,
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Subject: Re: Probable Solander's Petrel off California
From: Nate Dias <offshorebirder(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 24 Aug 2005 7:41am
Peter,
I think the bird looks good for Solander's Petrel,
though I have no experience with Solander's /
Providence in the field.
Re: the images on the Shearwaterjourneys web page - in
some shots (like top left) the bird appears to be
pale-headed and in others (particularly bottom right
photo) the bird appears to have a darkish hood. But
overall, I think the bird looks like it had a darkish
hood - was this the case?
It's also hard to see the darkish "M" on the
upperwings that Solander's Petrel should have, but I
think I can see it in a couple of the images.
Here is my 2 cents' worth:
The larger size, longer wingspan, less uniform
coloration and hooded appearance eliminate Murphy's
Petrel (P. ultima).
The pale flashes at the base of the primaries on the
underwing are too bright and well-defined for
Great-winged Petrel (Pterodroma macroptera). Some of
the photos (esp. of the underside) do not seem to me
to eliminate Great-winged Petrel, but other photos
seem to show a darker hood, which eliminates P.
macroptera. Dark "M" on upperwings (apparent in some
images) would also eliminate Great-winged Petrel.
The non-brown appearance, lack of white wing flash
(white base of primaries) on upperwing and lack of
white spots on sides of uppertail eliminate dark morph
Kermadec Petrel (P. neglecta).
The pale chin strap, grayish (non-brown) coloration,
etc. eliminates dark phase Herald Petrel (P.
arminjoniana).
The lack of pale leading edge of underwing and
presence of pale chin strap eliminate Kerguelen Petrel
(P. brevirostris).
After that, other comparisons seem implausible.
Nice find and nice cruise, you lucky dogs.
Nate Dias - Charleston, SC (formerly San Francisco,
CA)
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Subject: phalarope leg coloration
From: Bryan Guarente <dafekt1ve(AT)YAHOO.COM>
Date: 24 Aug 2005 9:37pm
I recently observed a phalarope in east central Illinois that looked
good in almost all respects, as far as I could tell, for a red-necked
phalarope. The only part of this bird that threw me off was the leg
coloration. I saw this bird in flight 4 separate times and each time I
was blown away by the fact that the bird had yellow legs, something I
had never associated with red-necked phalarope. I have heard of a
reference to red-necked phalarope juveniles (maybe fledglings, this was
unclear to me) having yellow legs and sometimes retaining this feature
into early september. Is this something others have seen? Along the
same lines, has anyone seen or heard of drastically different
(aberrant) leg colorations in phalaropes into adult plumages (I know
charadriiformes are rather variable in most cases, but do not know
specifics about this feature in phalaropes)? Any other ideas on this
would be great too (hybrid anyone?).
I have some VERY POOR quality photos (heat waves, midday light,
distant, but still photos) that do not end up showing the yellow leg
coloration, only a lighter coloration... i.e. not black legs. I am 99%
sure that the leg color was yellow. I apologize here for the poor
quality of the photos. I have posted them to a website here:
http://www.atmos.uiuc.edu/~bguaren2/phalarope/index.html
Any responses you may have to this query would be fantastic either to
the list or privately. Thanks in advance for responses.
Bryan Guarente
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Atmospheric Sciences Graduate Assistant
Champaign, IL
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Subject: Re: phalarope leg coloration
From: Hugh McGuinness <hmcguinness(AT)ROSS.ORG>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 6:30am
Bryan,
I'm not completely confident in this because I feel I can't see the bird
well enough in your photos, but my first impresseion is that the bird is
a RED PHALAROPE, not a Red-necked Phalarope. Two points that would
support this are the relatively thick eye-patch, and the relatively
short, thick, slightly down-curved bill. Red Phalarope would also
explain the leg coloration you observed.
hugh
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[mailto:BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU] On Behalf Of Bryan Guarente
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2005 12:38 AM
To: BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU
Subject: [BIRDWG01] phalarope leg coloration
I recently observed a phalarope in east central Illinois that looked
good in almost all respects, as far as I could tell, for a red-necked
phalarope. The only part of this bird that threw me off was the leg
coloration. I saw this bird in flight 4 separate times and each time I
was blown away by the fact that the bird had yellow legs, something I
had never associated with red-necked phalarope. I have heard of a
reference to red-necked phalarope juveniles (maybe fledglings, this was
unclear to me) having yellow legs and sometimes retaining this feature
into early september. Is this something others have seen? Along the
same lines, has anyone seen or heard of drastically different
(aberrant) leg colorations in phalaropes into adult plumages (I know
charadriiformes are rather variable in most cases, but do not know
specifics about this feature in phalaropes)? Any other ideas on this
would be great too (hybrid anyone?).
I have some VERY POOR quality photos (heat waves, midday light, distant,
but still photos) that do not end up showing the yellow leg coloration,
only a lighter coloration... i.e. not black legs. I am 99% sure that
the leg color was yellow. I apologize here for the poor quality of the
photos. I have posted them to a website here:
http://www.atmos.uiuc.edu/~bguaren2/phalarope/index.html
Any responses you may have to this query would be fantastic either to
the list or privately. Thanks in advance for responses.
Bryan Guarente
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Atmospheric Sciences Graduate
Assistant Champaign, IL
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Subject: Re: phalarope leg coloration
From: "Lethaby, Nick" <nlethaby(AT)TI.COM>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 7:50am
A couple of years ago I saw a Red-necked Phalarope with fleshy-yellow
legs in Santa Barbara. The bird was feeding on the beach at point-blank
range so no doubt about the id. Your photos are a bit too distant for me
to determine what it is. The mantle pattern looks typical for a
Red-necked but I'm not sure I have ever seen a juvenile Red Phalarope
since these seem to moult in first-winter plumage very early.
Nick Lethaby
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Subject: [BIRDWG01] phalarope leg coloration
I recently observed a phalarope in east central Illinois that looked
good in almost all respects, as far as I could tell, for a red-necked
phalarope. The only part of this bird that threw me off was the leg
coloration. I saw this bird in flight 4 separate times and each time I
was blown away by the fact that the bird had yellow legs, something I
had never associated with red-necked phalarope. I have heard of a
reference to red-necked phalarope juveniles (maybe fledglings, this was
unclear to me) having yellow legs and sometimes retaining this feature
into early september. Is this something others have seen? Along the
same lines, has anyone seen or heard of drastically different
(aberrant) leg colorations in phalaropes into adult plumages (I know
charadriiformes are rather variable in most cases, but do not know
specifics about this feature in phalaropes)? Any other ideas on this
would be great too (hybrid anyone?).
I have some VERY POOR quality photos (heat waves, midday light,
distant, but still photos) that do not end up showing the yellow leg
coloration, only a lighter coloration... i.e. not black legs. I am 99%
sure that the leg color was yellow. I apologize here for the poor
quality of the photos. I have posted them to a website here:
http://www.atmos.uiuc.edu/~bguaren2/phalarope/index.html
Any responses you may have to this query would be fantastic either to
the list or privately. Thanks in advance for responses.
Bryan Guarente
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Atmospheric Sciences Graduate Assistant
Champaign, IL
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Subject: Re: phalarope leg coloration
From: Kevin Karlson <karlson3(AT)COMCAST.NET>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 8:03am
reply to phalarope leg coloration and suggestion of Red Phalarope, by
Kevin Karlson
I am replying both to the question of leg coloration on a juvenile
Red-necked Phalarope seen by Bryan Guarente, and the suggestion by
another member that this bird might be a Red Phalarope. First the
identity: this bird is a juvenile Red-necked Phalarope for the following
reasons: 1) the structure of this bird in the first and third photo
shows the typical plump, pot bellied look of Red-necked Phalarope, with
the first photo showing the small head and very fine-tipped bill. Red
Phalarope is noticeably more attenuated (tapered) in the rear end, with
longer primaries and undertail coverts, giving the bird a distinctive
drawn out appearance, and even in juvenile plumage shows a much heavier
bill. 2) photos 2 and 3of this bird show the distinctive gold to buff
braces and dark centered feathers on the upperparts, with virtually no
molt out of juvenile plumage. Red-necks retain their juvenile plumage
well into the fall months, some as late as November. They molt mainly
after they reach their wintering areas. Red Phalarope, on the other
hand, is virtually never seen in full juvenile plumage away from the
breeding grounds. They start their molt in high arctic breeding areas,
with rapid replacement of almost all upper back feathers except for
median and greater wing coverts, tertials and flight feathers. Even
birds seen in August, like one I photographed in Cape May years ago,
show a mostly pale gray back with pale feather edges. Paul Lehman, who
goes to Gambel every year from mid August until October, says that
juvenal Red Phalaropes have already molted a good deal of back feathers
by the time he arrives. This bird is clearly in full juvenile plumage,
with obvious gold back braces, or edges to mantle feathers and dark
colored feathers on the upperparts. While early Red-necked's show these
gold braces on the back, birds seen later (Sept onward) appear mostly
black, gray and white, having worn the colorful edges off the back
feathers while still reataining the distinctive braced appearance with
dull whitish edges. Even if a full juvenile Red were to appear in the US
prior to molt, they do not show prominent gold braces on the back, but
uniform bold gold feather edges to most back feathers.
As for the yellow leg color, most juvenile Red and Red-necks show mostly
pink legs early in the season, which can vary as to the amount of gray
mixed in. While I have never seen yellow legs on juv Red or Red-necked
Phalaropes, it is probably just a slight shift in pigment, or lack of
pigment. Birds like Red Knot can show gray to green to pink to yellow
colored legs, depending upon hormone levels and pigment distribution.
Snowy Plovers also run the range from gray to green to pink legs, as do
Herring Gulls, which sometimes show yellowish legs instead of the
expected pink. This young bird is just showing a slight variation in leg
color, and would not warrant any thought of hybrid, since juv Red
Phalarope typically shows pinkish to gray legs, and Wilson's does not
nest in Arctic breeding areas.
Bryan Guarente wrote:
>I recently observed a phalarope in east central Illinois that looked
>good in almost all respects, as far as I could tell, for a red-necked
>phalarope. The only part of this bird that threw me off was the leg
>coloration. I saw this bird in flight 4 separate times and each time I
>was blown away by the fact that the bird had yellow legs, something I
>had never associated with red-necked phalarope. I have heard of a
>reference to red-necked phalarope juveniles (maybe fledglings, this was
>unclear to me) having yellow legs and sometimes retaining this feature
>into early september. Is this something others have seen? Along the
>same lines, has anyone seen or heard of drastically different
>(aberrant) leg colorations in phalaropes into adult plumages (I know
>charadriiformes are rather variable in most cases, but do not know
>specifics about this feature in phalaropes)? Any other ideas on this
>would be great too (hybrid anyone?).
>
>I have some VERY POOR quality photos (heat waves, midday light,
>distant, but still photos) that do not end up showing the yellow leg
>coloration, only a lighter coloration... i.e. not black legs. I am 99%
>sure that the leg color was yellow. I apologize here for the poor
>quality of the photos. I have posted them to a website here:
>
>http://www.atmos.uiuc.edu/~bguaren2/phalarope/index.html
>
>Any responses you may have to this query would be fantastic either to
>the list or privately. Thanks in advance for responses.
>
>Bryan Guarente
>University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
>Atmospheric Sciences Graduate Assistant
>Champaign, IL
>
>
>
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Subject: Pheucticus ID
From: GreatGrayOwl(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 25 Aug 2005 11:49am
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Hi all:
In my experience, some to many non-adult-male Pheucticus grosbeaks cause no
small amount of ID uncertainty. The ageing and sexing criteria in Pyle
(1997) have not been particularly helpful for the few birds that I've captured
over the years here in CO and they also don't do an awful lot with the
(apparently) wide range of variation in presumed hybrids I've seen here (which
are not
at all rare here).
With that in mind, I respectfully offer for your perusal three pictures of a
bird captured at Barr Lake, CO, on 22 August 2005. They can be viewed at
_http://www.schmoker.org/BirdPics/pheucticus/_
(http://www.schmoker.org/BirdPics/pheucticus/)
and I'd appreciate hearing from those with opinions as to the ID, age, and
sex of the bird pictured -- either privately or to the list as a whole. I
will post again after summarizing responses within a reasonable time frame.
That post will also present my concerns with this bird in particular and with,
particularly, the sexing for immature Black-headed Grosbeaks in early fall
presented in Pyle (1997).
Thanks to Bill Schmoker for hosting the pix; feel free to peruse his
excellent site.
Finally, sorry for the cross-posting to those of you that will be receiving
this message twice.
Thanks,
Tony Leukering
Brighton, CO
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Subject: Re: phalarope leg coloration
From: OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 25 Aug 2005 11:50am
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In a message dated 8/25/2005 9:51:29 A.M. Central Standard Time,
nlethaby(AT)TI.COM writes:
I'm not sure I have ever seen a juvenile Red Phalarope
since these seem to moult in first-winter plumage very early.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
In a message dated 8/25/2005 10:04:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
karlson3(AT)COMCAST.NET writes:
Red Phalarope, on the other
hand, is virtually never seen in full juvenile plumage away from the
breeding grounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I was fortunate enough to find and photograph a juvenile plumaged Red
Phalarope that had only molted a few (4) mantle feathers on each side, here at
Memphis, TN on August 19, 2000. I too expected never to see one in this plumage
down here but heck Steve McConnell and I had an adult in breeding plumage
flying around at Little Creek one year and I never thought I'd see that outside
of going to Churchill, so anything is possible with Wind Birds.
Here along the Mississippi River, we get quite a few Wilson's Phalarope
(high count in spring in the hundreds) and Red-necked yearly, even had a
breeding
plumaged Red-necked in spring a couple of years ago. Red are by far the
rarest but I've had all 3 species in view in TN at one time in September and on
the same day at two locations once before that.
I'll put together a few photos and let you all know when and where,
hopefully tonight. Now back to work.........
Good Birding!!!
Jeff R. Wilson
OL'COOT / TLBA
Bartlett, TN
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Subject: Your opinion of this Jaeger...
From: Matt Orsie <vireo(AT)ADELPHIA.NET>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 7:54pm
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Hi All,
I'm an avid birder from West Virginia and a couple a days ago I =
found
the first Jaeger to show up in the state in 32 years. Needless to saw we =
don't get many
seabirds here in land locked WV.
This sub-adult or adult Jaeger seems to exhibit characteristics of PAJA =
and LTJA.
I'd be interested in what you think.
I've posted 7 images at http://wvbirder/mto9 that you can look it.
Thanks and Good Birding,
Matt Orsie
Summit Point, WV
Jefferson County
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Subject: Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger...Corrected web
address
From: Hugh McGuinness <hmcguinness(AT)ROSS.ORG>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 8:03pm
The posted address for viewing the Jaeger photos doesn't seem to work, but the
following does: http://wvbirder.com/mto9/ Interesting bird.
hugh
Hugh McGuinness
Sag Harbor, NY
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Subject: [BIRDWG01] Your opinion of this Jaeger...
Hi All,
I'm an avid birder from West Virginia and a couple a days ago I found
the first Jaeger to show up in the state in 32 years. Needless to saw we don't
get many
seabirds here in land locked WV.
This sub-adult or adult Jaeger seems to exhibit characteristics of PAJA and
LTJA.
I'd be interested in what you think.
I've posted 7 images at http://wvbirder/mto9 that you can look it.
Thanks and Good Birding,
Matt Orsie
Summit Point, WV
Jefferson County
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Subject: North American Birds: latest issue
From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker(AT)ZIPCON.NET>
Date: 25 Aug 2005 9:06pm
HI:
The latest issue of North American Birds has many articles of interest:
1) Three articles on the Ivory-billed Woodpecker (including new artwork by
David Sibley comparing it to the Pileated Woodpecker).
2) two sapsucker articles.
3) two photo salons: northern owl invasion and Mexico comes to Texas.
plus the usual columns!
--
Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
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Subject: Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger...
From: GreatGrayOwl(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 25 Aug 2005 9:36pm
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Hi all:
I don't see any real reason to debate the identity of the WV jaeger -- it is
an adult-like Long-tailed. The overall gray tone of the back contrasting
strongly with the darker flight feathers; the extensive gray on the belly
extending up nearly to the chest; the very long central rects; the bill shape;
and
the head pattern all point to Long-tailed and away from the other jaegers.
Additionally, one can even discern in pj6 that only the outer two primaries
have whitish shafts.
Though very soft, the date is also quite suggestive of Long-tailed.
Finally, the bird is standing on dirt in many pictures -- another strong
argument
for Long-tailed! :-)
Excellent record!
Tony Leukering
Brighton, CO
In a message dated 8/25/2005 8:55:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,
vireo(AT)ADELPHIA.NET writes:
Hi All,
I'm an avid birder from West Virginia and a couple a days ago I found
the first Jaeger to show up in the state in 32 years. Needless to saw we
don't get many
seabirds here in land locked WV.
This sub-adult or adult Jaeger seems to exhibit characteristics of PAJA and
LTJA.
I'd be interested in what you think.
I've posted 7 images at _http://wvbirder/mto9_ (http://wvbirder/mto9)
that you can look it.
Thanks and Good Birding,
Matt Orsie
Summit Point, WV
Jefferson County
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Subject: Juvenile Red Phalarope in TN
From: OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 25 Aug 2005 11:07pm
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It was brought up in the discussion of the east central Illinois Red-necked
Phalarope that Red Phalaropes are seldom seen off the breeding grounds in
juvenile plumage. I've posted a bunch of shots of TN phalaropes on a web page
including a Juvenile plumaged Red that showed up in Memphis on August 19, a few
years back.
If interested try: _http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/gallery/phalarope_
(http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/gallery/phalarope)
Good Birding!!!
Jeff R. Wilson
OL'COOT / TLBA
Bartlett, TN
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Subject: Correct Address to Phalarope site
From: OLCOOT1(AT)AOL.COM
Date: 25 Aug 2005 11:12pm
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Sorry, they gave me the wrong address. This will take you to the album;
_http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/phalaropes_
(http://www.pbase.com/ol_coot/phalaropes)
Good Birding!!!
Jeff R. Wilson
OL'COOT / TLBA
Bartlett, TN
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Subject: Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger...
From: Martin Reid <upupa(AT)AIRMAIL.NET>
Date: 26 Aug 2005 7:40am
Dear all,
I just want to echo Tony Leukering's excellent comments about this
LTJA - I wish it would come down to Texas....
Cheers,
Martin
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Martin Reid
San Antonio, Texas
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Subject: Re: Your opinion of this Jaeger...
From: rsheil <rsheil(AT)JUNO.COM>
Date: 26 Aug 2005 2:16pm
I will go with this LTJA being younger than an adult, probably
third-summer, possibly second-summer, based on the presence of some barring
on the underwing coverts, a few barred feathers on the uppertail coverts,
duskily spotted and streaked ear coverts, and the remnants of a gray chest
band.
Regards,
Richard Heil
S. Peabody, MA
rsheil(AT)juno.com
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From: <GreatGrayOwl(AT)AOL.COM>
To: <BIRDWG01(AT)LISTSERV.ARIZONA.EDU>
Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 12:36 AM
Subject: Re: [BIRDWG01] Your opinion of this Jaeger...
>
> Hi all:
>
> I don't see any real reason to debate the identity of the WV jaeger -- it
is
> an adult-like Long-tailed. The overall gray tone of the back contrasting
> strongly with the darker flight feathers; the extensive gray on the belly
> extending up nearly to the chest; the very long central rects; the bill
shape; and
> the head pattern all point to Long-tailed and away from the other
jaegers.
> Additionally, one can even discern in pj6 that only the outer two
primaries
> have whitish shafts.
>
> Though very soft, the date is also quite suggestive of Long-tailed.
> Finally, the bird is standing on dirt in many pictures -- another strong
argument
> for Long-tailed! :-)
>
> Excellent record!
>
> Tony Leukering
> Brighton, CO
>
>
> In a message dated 8/25/2005 8:55:08 PM Mountain Standard Time,
> vireo(AT)ADELPHIA.NET writes:
>
> Hi All,
> I'm an avid birder from West Virginia and a couple a days ago I found
> the first Jaeger to show up in the state in 32 years. Needless to saw we
> don't get many
> seabirds here in land locked WV.
>
> This sub-adult or adult Jaeger seems to exhibit characteristics of PAJA
and
> LTJA.
> I'd be interested in what you think.
>
> I've posted 7 images at _http://wvbirder/mto9_ (http://wvbirder/mto9)
> that you can look it.
>
>
> Thanks and Good Birding,
> Matt Orsie
> Summit Point, WV
> Jefferson County
> web site: _http://wvbirder.com_ (http://wvbirder.com/)
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Subject: Unusual Blue Grosbeak
From: Dave DeReamus <becard(AT)FAST.NET>
Date: 27 Aug 2005 11:21pm
Hi all,
A Blue Grosbeak with an unusual plumage was photographed in eastern PA
during this past breeding season. The bird was seen feeding young in the
company of a singing adult male. I would appreciate any comments or
opinions as to whether this bird is an abnormally bluish female or a very
dull first-year male.
The observed behavior mentioned above (the bird feeding young) points to the
bird being a female. Has anyone out there ever seen a first-year male feed
young in the company of an adult male?
Four photos of the bird can be viewed at the following link:
http://www.users.fast.net/~becard/index8.html
Thanks and Good Birding,
Dave DeReamus
Compiler of the 'Eastern PA Birdline'
Easton, PA
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