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| Subject | From | Date | Time |
| Mourning Dove in Denmark | tfvp(AT)TISCALI.DK | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 2:13pm |
| Unidentified exotic (Portugal) | PeF | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 2:33pm |
| Exotic Species (Portugal) - Part II | PeF | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 2:44pm |
| Exotic Bird Species (Portugal) - Part III | PeF | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 4:03pm |
| Re: Unidentified exotic (Portugal) | Bill Pranty | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 5:41pm |
| Re: Unidentified exotic (Portugal) | Chris Tessaglia-Hyme | Mon, 19 May 2008 | 6:25pm |
| winter wren split | Ian Paulsen | Tue, 20 May 2008 | 5:15pm |
| Re: winter wren split | Barb Beck | Tue, 20 May 2008 | 5:53pm |
| Mouning Dove in Scandinavia | =?windows-1252?Q?Ken | Wed, 21 May 2008 | 11:31am |
| Mouning Dove in Scandinavia | =?windows-1252?Q?Ken | Wed, 21 May 2008 | 11:37am |
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Subject: Mourning Dove in Denmark
From: tfvp(AT)TISCALI.DK
Date: 19 May 2008 2:13pm
Hi all.
To day, Denmark have the first record of Mourning Dove,
A photo of the bird from Skagen, can be found at this link.
http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=showpicture&picture_id=21608
And more photos will soon be online.
Is it possible from this photo, to tell what subspecies it belong to.
thanks in advance
Tommy Frandsen
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Subject: Unidentified exotic (Portugal)
From: PeF <correio.do.pef(AT)GMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2008 2:33pm
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Hello,
can someone tell me what species does this bird belongs to? It was found
outside Lisbon, Portugal, being clearly an exotic there but... exactly what
it is I do not know. Any ideas?
Many thanks,
Pedro Fernandes
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Subject: Exotic Species (Portugal) - Part II
From: PeF <correio.do.pef(AT)GMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2008 2:44pm
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Hmmm, it seems I forgot to send a link with my last message. Sorry about
that.
Here it is.
http://aves.team-forum.net/desafios-de-identificacao-f17/exotica-manhosa-t729.htm
Cheers,
Pedro
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Subject: Exotic Bird Species (Portugal) - Part III
From: PeF <correio.do.pef(AT)GMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2008 4:03pm
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Hmmm, sorry about this mess and the number of emails.
Apparently you need to log in to that bird forum, and the Portuguese seems
to be an obstacle (though what is written is of little relevance for the ID,
mainly it says that the photo was taken outside Lisbon some years ago by a
friend of mine and that the bird was very tame and was caught and kept in
captivity afterwards - by the way, this forum also has an English spoken
section for the non Portuguese speakers :) ). No one there could ID this guy
for me so I decided to post it here.
I have been advised to post it on PicasaWeb or something, so here it goes.
Sorry about this, I am not too good with this forums and no-attachment
servers.
Here it is again:
http://picasaweb.google.com/correio.do.pef/ExoticBirdSpecies/photo#5202227095498285202
Any comments are appreciated.
Many thanks, and sorry about the messy mails!
Cheers,
Pedro
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Subject: Re: Unidentified exotic (Portugal)
From: Bill Pranty <billpranty(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 19 May 2008 5:41pm
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Hi Pedro,
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It's a Golden-breasted Myna (Mino anais).
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Best regards,
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Bill Pranty
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Subject: Re: Unidentified exotic (Portugal)
From: Chris Tessaglia-Hymes <cth4(AT)cornell.edu>
Date: 19 May 2008 6:25pm
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In checking my copy of the Helm Guide to Starlings and Mynas (1998,
Chris Feare and Adrian Craig), this bird can actually further be
identified to subspecies as /Mino anais orientalis/ from northern New
Guinea. This is on Plate 7, page 60-61, with text on page 133.
Distribution: "Endemic to New Guinea and Salawati Island, and may occur
on Yapen Island. It does not occur along the north coast or the
southeast, which Coates finds surprising, or in the Trans Fly region,
but is widespread elsewhere." Relations With Man: "Golden-breasted Mynas
were readily available in bird shops in Singapore in 1990 (CJF)." Noted
principle reference: Coates, BJ (1990) /The Birds of Papau New Guinea/,
Vol 2.
Hope this helps!
Good birding!
Sincerely,
Chris T-H
Bill Pranty wrote:
> Hi Pedro,
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> It's a Golden-breasted Myna (Mino anais).
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> Best regards,
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> Bill Pranty
> Bayonet Point, Florida
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Subject: winter wren split
From: Ian Paulsen <birdbooker(AT)ZIPCON.NET>
Date: 20 May 2008 5:15pm
HI ALL:
I saw this on another listserver:
http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2008.03769.x
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Ian Paulsen
Bainbridge Island, WA, USA
" Which just goes to show that a
passion for books is extremely unhealthy."
from Cornelia Funke's "Inkheart".
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Subject: Re: winter wren split
From: Barb Beck <barb(AT)birdnut.obtuse.com>
Date: 20 May 2008 5:53pm
Both forms of this bird sing in the area west of Swan Hills, Alberta.
Barb Beck
Edmonton, Alberta
Ian Paulsen wrote:
> HI ALL:
> I saw this on another listserver:
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> http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/j.1365-294X.2008.03769.x
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Subject: Mouning Dove in Scandinavia
From: =?windows-1252?Q?Kent_Olsen?= <kent_olsen(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 May 2008 11:31am
Hi BIRDERS,
More great photos of the Mourning Dove in Denmark have been taken and
published. Photos from different angles can be viewed her:
http://birdsdk.blogspot.com/2008/05/srgedue-zenaida-macroura-2052008-
skagen.html
http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=listpictures&species_id=445
If accepted as a spontaneous record, it constitutes the first ever record
for Scandinavia in category A.
The big question for the Danish and other Scandinavian birders is now
whether the photos support a determination of subspecies as well as age
class?
Are the exposed primaries and wings in general long enough for the bird to
be either an Eastern mourning dove (Z. m. carolinensis) or a Western
mourning dove (Z. m. marginella)?
Is the plumage in general dark enough for the bird to be an Eastern
mourning dove (Z. m. carolinensis)?
Does the fact that the there are extensive white tips the three outer tail
feathers in each tail side suggest a male?
Does the fact that the central tail feathers are relative short compared
with other tail feathers indicate a 2.nd calendar year age class?
Hope someone with knowledge will answer these questions.
Thanks in advance
Kent Olsen
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Subject: Mouning Dove in Scandinavia
From: =?windows-1252?Q?Kent_Olsen?= <kent_olsen(AT)HOTMAIL.COM>
Date: 21 May 2008 11:37am
Hi BIRDERS,
More great photos of the Mourning Dove in Denmark have been taken and
published. Photos from different angles can be viewed her:
http://birdsdk.blogspot.com/search/label/S%C3%B8rgedue
http://www.netfugl.dk/pictures.php?id=listpictures&species_id=445
If accepted as a spontaneous record it constitutes the first ever record
for Scandinavia accepted in category A.
The big question for the Danish and other Scandinavian birders is now
whether the photos support a determination of subspecies as well as age
class?
Are the exposed primaries and wings in general long enough for the bird to
be either an Eastern mourning dove (Z. m. carolinensis) or a Western
mourning dove (Z. m. marginella)?
Is the plumage in general dark enough for the bird to be an Eastern
mourning dove (Z. m. carolinensis)?
Does the fact that the there are extensive white tips the three outer tail
feathers in each tail side suggest a male?
Does the fact that the central tail feathers are relative short compared
with other tail feathers indicate a 2.nd calendar year age class?
Hope someone with knowledge will answer these questions.
Thanks in advance
Kent Olsen
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