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IN-BIRD for Thursday, January 3, 2002

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 Subject From Time 
 Red-tailed Hawk  Robert Kissel   12:57am 
 Re: Red-tailed Hawk on ground  John Castrale   8:43am 
 Big thank you, another question  Seth Keller   9:45am 
 Sandhills at Jasper-Pulaski  John Castrale   10:24am 
 RT Hawk behavior  Joan E Tweedell   10:31am 
 Indiana species  Don Gorney   12:51pm 
 Summit Lake Jan 3  Don Gorney   12:58pm 
 Lake Erie  Chuck Taggert   2:02pm 
 Re: Big thank you, another question  Moore Jeffrey   2:24pm 
 Binoculars for Sale  Rob Rutledge   4:01pm 
   Chuck Taggert   4:12pm 
 IAS 2002 fieldtrips update: some changes and corrections  Dan Leach   6:37pm 
 Short-eared Owls- Dekalb County  Rodger Rang   7:21pm 
 Summit Lake 1/3  SPancol(AT)AOL.COM  8:52pm 
 Harris's Sparrow & Turkey Vultures  Susan Hengeveld   9:39pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Red-tailed Hawk From: Robert Kissel <bluesdoc(AT)BLUEMARBLE.NET> Date: 3 Jan 2002 12:57am I had a curious observation this afternoon of a RED-Tailed hawk (RTHA). I was driving North on SR 37 a few miles of Bloomington on my way to Martinsville. I saw 1 RTHA perched on a tree, surveying the highway grassy median. About 200 meters later there was a JUV RTHA in the median. I swung back around to ensure the bird was okay. For about 20-25 minutes I watched this bird from about 10m away standing in 1 spot, walk/jumping to another spot 3-5m away, standing some more and occasionally poking its beak in the grass. The bird flew several times easily up the median 10-20m so I judged that the bird was "ok" and not in need of rehab. assistance. I am curious as to what frequncy such behaviors are seen, in JUV vs AD and what they might represent. Are these lower frequency feeding responses? part of a JUV's learning process to survive? any more frequently observed in winter vs warmer months? or indication of problems? When I drove back South a few hours later the bird was not to be seen on the median. Any research or systematic observations out there? Bob Solsberry
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Red-tailed Hawk on ground From: John Castrale <jcastrale(AT)DNR.STATE.IN.US> Date: 3 Jan 2002 8:43am It is not unusual to see red-tails on the ground. The past couple of winters, I received numerous calls of a red-tail in the median south of Bloomington. I observed him on several occasions myself and saw him in flight, so he was not injured, but just found it effective to hunt on the ground. Palmer's account of Red-tails in the Handbook of North American Birds devotes a couple of paragraphs to "hunting afoot". He states it is "common in redtails, especially young birds in first fall and winter" > [IN-BIRD] Red-tailed Hawk > Date: > Thu, 3 Jan 2002 00:57:52 -0500 > From: > Robert Kissel > To: > IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG > > > > > I had a curious observation this afternoon of a RED-Tailed hawk (RTHA). I > was driving North on SR 37 a few miles of Bloomington on my way to > Martinsville. I saw 1 RTHA perched on a tree, surveying the highway grassy > median. About 200 meters later there was a JUV RTHA in the median. I swung > back around to ensure the bird was okay. For about 20-25 minutes I watched > this bird from about 10m away standing in 1 spot, walk/jumping to another > spot 3-5m away, standing some more and occasionally poking its beak in the > grass. The bird flew several times easily up the median 10-20m so I judged > that the bird was "ok" and not in need of rehab. assistance. > > I am curious as to what frequncy such behaviors are seen, in JUV vs AD and > what they might represent. Are these lower frequency feeding responses? part > of a JUV's learning process to survive? any more frequently observed in > winter vs warmer months? or indication of problems? > > When I drove back South a few hours later the bird was not to be seen on the > median. > > Any research or systematic observations out there? > > Bob > Solsberry >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Big thank you, another question From: Seth Keller <kellers(AT)CULVER.K12.IN.US> Date: 3 Jan 2002 9:45am Thanks everyone for the many responses. I learned a lot from them. I now = know a great deal more about plumages and variations. =20 I really enjoyed the vast array of books and websites that were suggested = as well. I am now much more suspicious of the field guide I am using. I = apologize for not having it with me today or I would give you the name. I = believe the author's name was Stan something. Anyway, here's my question. = My field guide describes 112 different species of birds in Indiana. = However, in your replies there are at least six different species that I = do not find in my field guide. Unless that these are just slang terms = that I'm not familiar with. How many different species of birds are there = in Indiana? Seth
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Sandhills at Jasper-Pulaski From: John Castrale <jcastrale(AT)DNR.STATE.IN.US> Date: 3 Jan 2002 10:24am Jim Bergens, J-P manager, sent me this note this morning. John Castrale We counted 11,061 cranes this morning. This is very high for this late in the season. It is possible that most of these may spend the winter, although we did have cranes leave yesterday. Winds are from the NW today, so cranes may also leave today. The first cranes usually arrive near the end of January or the first of February on their northward migration.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: RT Hawk behavior From: Joan E Tweedell <joantweedell(AT)JUNO.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 10:31am I once watched an immature RTHA in my yard, it was grounded by a heavy rainstorm and sat under a bush for several hours. glowering and streaming water. Finally it began to jump up and pull berries from the bush to eat. Any port in a storm. I think that learning to hunt is difficult, as witnessed by the numbers of immature raptors that starve to death. Anything that works will do, perhaps the RTHA in the median was looking for small rodents or remembering finding grasshoppers there in the fall. Joan in South Bend.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Indiana species From: Don Gorney <dongorney(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 12:51pm There are 398 species that have been accepted for Indiana. Jeff McCoy hold the Big Year record for Indiana (observing the most number of birds by one person in one year) with 305 species in both 1995 and 1997. Quite a feat that would be hard to equal or surpass - except of course by Jeff himself. --- Seth Keller <kellers(AT)CULVER.K12.IN.US> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the many responses. I learned a lot from them. > I now know a great deal more about plumages and variations. > > I really enjoyed the vast array of books and websites that were > suggested as well. I am now much more suspicious of the field guide > I am using. I apologize for not having it with me today or I would > give you the name. I believe the author's name was Stan something. > Anyway, here's my question. My field guide describes 112 different > species of birds in Indiana. However, in your replies there are at > least six different species that I do not find in my field guide. > Unless that these are just slang terms that I'm not familiar with. > How many different species of birds are there in Indiana? > > Seth ===== Don Gorney Indianapolis, IN dongorney(AT)yahoo.com www.dongorney.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Summit Lake Jan 3 From: Don Gorney <dongorney(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 12:58pm I birded Summit Lake State Park, Henry County, for about an hour on January 3 to see what waterfowl were present. The small amount of open water had the ducks huddled pretty close together so its would be easy to overlook a sleeping duck. I didn't count numbers except for a few species where it was a little easier. A white domestic goose is also present. A scope is a must. Pied-billed Grebe - 5 Canada Goose Gadwall American Black Duck Mallard Northern Shoveler Green-winged Teal Canvasback - 22+ Ringed-neck Duck Lesser Scaup Bufflehead Hooded Merganser - 7+ BALD EAGLE - 1, first year bird Northern Harrier - 1 Eastern Bluebird - 2 Northern Mockingbird - 1 ===== Don Gorney Indianapolis, IN dongorney(AT)yahoo.com www.dongorney.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Lake Erie From: Chuck Taggert <warrech(AT)EARLHAM.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2002 2:02pm hello everyone, this is my first report to this email. i realize this is an Indiana email system but with the similarities in bird species between lower Lake Michigan and Lake Erie that this would be interested. i recently spent a week in Cleveland and did a little birding. I saw a tagged Canada goose near my mother's house in Olmsted Twsp. and have reported it to the research group. I was looking particularly for Long-tailed Ducks and Scoters at Lake Erie but was unsuccessful. I have also found that Sibley's Guide and Peterson's Guide both do not include the great lakes for the winter ranges of the Mallard and Gadwall. Is this because they are dabbling ducks and they assume that they would not be found on such large bodies of water? None-the-less this is not accurate especially for the Mallard because I personally have seen very large numbers of Mallards on Lake Erie nearly everytime I go up to the Lake regardless of the time of year. Chris Warren Earlham College Olmsted Township, OH Small farm ponds 12/15/01- 12/30/01 Mallard 100+ Canada Goose 80+ Northern Shoveler 2 Ring-billed Gull 25 Red-tailed Hawk 2 Bayvillage, OH Lake Erie 12/24/01 HORNED GREBE 1 GADWALL 2 Mallard 80+ COMMON MERGANSER 1 Ring-billed Gull 200+ Herring Gull 2
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Big thank you, another question From: Moore Jeffrey <merlin46783(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 2:24pm Seth, One thing to keep in mind is that some books may show the more common birds seen in an area. Even the Sibley or National Geographic guides do not show every species seen in North America. My guess is that your book is one showing the more common birds. My favorite guide is the National Geographic Guide (now in its 3rd ed.) It shows most of the birds you will encounter and is small enough to easily carry into the field. The Sibley Guide is also very good. Every guide has its advantages. Good to see a new face in the crowd. I hope you have many hours (years?) of enjoyment from watching birds. Jeff Moore Roanoke, IN --- Seth Keller <kellers(AT)CULVER.K12.IN.US> wrote: > Thanks everyone for the many responses. I learned a > lot from them. I now know a great deal more about > plumages and variations. > > I really enjoyed the vast array of books and > websites that were suggested as well. I am now much > more suspicious of the field guide I am using. I > apologize for not having it with me today or I would > give you the name. I believe the author's name was > Stan something. Anyway, here's my question. My > field guide describes 112 different species of birds > in Indiana. However, in your replies there are at > least six different species that I do not find in my > field guide. Unless that these are just slang terms > that I'm not familiar with. How many different > species of birds are there in Indiana? > > Seth __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Binoculars for Sale From: Rob Rutledge <RMRutledge(AT)IMCPL.LIB.IN.US> Date: 3 Jan 2002 4:01pm Hi everyone I have a pair of really nice Lieca 7x42BA binoculars for sale. I'm asking $450.00 dollars, they retail new for $850.00 to $900.00. So make me an offer, I'll even take monthly payments. Leica LC Trinovid Ultra 7x42 BA Incredible twilight performance that must be seen to be believed. Leica offers a new generation of binoculars which feature state-of-the-art optical excellence, durable and reliable precision mechanics and an exemplary, functional classic design. Limited light won't limit your viewing through this incredibly bright Ultra 7x42 binocular. You'll continue seeing clear views of wildlife because of state-of-the-art optics. A field of view 420'/1000 yards lets you track wildlife as it moves across the landscape; 17mm of long eye relief will benefit eye glass wearers; close focus of 12'; and weighs 31.4 ounces. Contact me if your interested. Rob Rutledge 609 Danver Lane Beech Grove, In 46107 Phone : 317-784-2927 E-Mail is rmrutledge(AT)imcpl.org
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: From: Chuck Taggert <warrech(AT)EARLHAM.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2002 4:12pm Thanks for the suggestion Bruce. I do have the National Geographic 2nd edition guide however i rarely refer to it anymore. I consider the Peterson and the Sibley much better for use in the field. I have not seen the 3rd edition but its going to take a lot to take me away from Sibley. Its bulky and hard to carry but worth it if you find a way. If i am going to walk a ways I will still always take the Peterson's and then refer to Sibley later. I have not been pleased with the overall representation of the bird species in the National Geographic guide. Anyway, different strokes for different folks. Thank you again. Chris Warren Earlham College
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: IAS 2002 fieldtrips update: some changes and corrections From: Dan Leach <dleach(AT)TIMA.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 6:37pm Fellow IN-BIRDers, Here is some updated information concerning the schedule of = fieldtrips for the first half of 2002: In the Field Trips 2002 article on page 3 of the December 2001 = Cardinal newsletter were two dates given for the traditional eagle field = trip in Parke and Vermillion Counties; note that the Saturday January = 19th, 2001 date is the valid date. The 9:00AM EST starting time from the = Turkey Run State Park Inn is still the same (8:00AM for those of you who = would like to get there earlier and enjoy the nice breakfast buffet the = Inn restaurant offers). The date of the March field trip to the Dugger-Minnehaha-Hawthorn = Mine area has been moved up from March 16th to March 2nd in order to = retain the expert leadership of IU Bloomington's Professor Lee = Sterrenburg. Starting place(s) and time will be announced soon. Make a = note of it! The date of the June 8th Dubois County outing is being retracted, = and needs to be considered tentative until the season and personal = schedules advance a little further; the trip is still on, but a firm = date will be announced later in order to engage the talents of Ms. = Theresa Schwinghammer, local expert on this interesting south-central = Indiana region. Please watch for announcements and updates to be posted to this = list-serv, and published in the newsletter of the Indiana Audubon = Society, the Cardinal. Dan Leach, v.p. IAS '00-'02/Field Trips co-chair =20 =20 =20
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Short-eared Owls- Dekalb County From: Rodger Rang <rrang(AT)FWI.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2002 7:21pm At least three SEOW's remain at the intersection of CRs 68 & 63 in = extreme southern Dekalb Co. just east of Spencerville (DeLorme page 23, = H:11). Under mostly clear skies, I noticed the first owl at 5:25P being = harassed by several of the seven Northern Harriers (including a nice = silvery male) that I had counted. The owl quickly disappeared, last = seen very near the mentioned intersection. Upon leaving the area at = about 5:45 and with very little light remaining, I saw the silhouette of = 3 owls on the opposite (west) side of CR 63 well south of CR 68. =20 I also noted several cock RNPH taking short flights as I was scanning = the taller grass on the east side of the road when I first arrived. Rodger Rang Fort Wayne
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Summit Lake 1/3 From: SPancol(AT)AOL.COM Date: 3 Jan 2002 8:52pm Summit Lake 1/3: Late afternoon 3 White-throated Sparrows (C.R. 600) 1 Swamp Sparrow (C.R. 500-wintering in the cattail swamp half way down C.R. 500-heard it, but did not see it). 6 Bluebirds (C.R. 750) 1 SHORT-EARED OWL (C.R. 750-flushed from south pasture) The main lake was frozen except for an area roughly the size of a football field. The area can be birded from 2 locations: The first location is at the beach. Just west of the concession stand, one can bird the open water from the volleyball court. The second location gets you within 100 yards(much closer) to the open water. From the intersection of C.R. 500 and C.R. 750 (Nature Area-north side of the lake), go west on C.R.750 past the lake overlook. A road bordering a deciduous woods on your left will lead you to a bluff overlooking an island and the open water. 6+ Bufflehead 4+ Lesser Scaup 20+ American Coots 3+ Hooded mergansers 20+ Ring-necked Ducks 57 Canvasbacks - A personal high count for me, beating 46 on January 25, 1998. 3 Wood Ducks (male) First overwintering Wood Ducks I have ever had at Summit. My computer records list earliest Wood Duck arrival at February 25, 1997. 2 Northern Pintail 2 American Wigeons (male) 2 Common Goldeneye (female) 2 Black Ducks 1 Pied-billed Grebe 1 Northern Harrier (feeding on a Coot right in the middle of all the waterfowl and next to the edge of the open water). 17 different species of waterfowl were found here on 1/3, when all reports are considered. Not bad when most water in central Indiana is frozen. Eagle Creek 1/2: 1 Greater White-fronted Goose 20 Common Mergansers (Dam) 14 Common Goldeneye (Dam) 2 Lesser Scaup Steve Pancol
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Harris's Sparrow & Turkey Vultures From: Susan Hengeveld <shengeve(AT)INDIANA.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2002 9:39pm On our way home from our holiday travels yesterday (Wed.), Jim and I stopped in Shelby County to look for the Harris's Sparrow first reported by Don Gorney. We arrived around 4:15pm. We hung out on the side of the road north of the seed pile. We spent ~20 minutes watching the pile with scopes, slowing getting closer to the pile, with no sign of the Harris's Sparrow. We finally decided to put the scopes away and walk the road scanning the nearby brush. On our return from putting the scopes in the car, we noticed a lot of birds around the pile and soon afterwards the HARRIS'S SPARROW appeared! Of course, we were scopeless at the time. We had excellent looks regardless, for about 5 minutes or so. Traffic was steady. After our initial look at the bird Jim saw the bird one other time for just a brief moment on the far side of the seed piles. Nice start to an Indiana year list! Thanks Don! ------------- Also of note: on our way home from school today, we spotted TWO TURKEY VULTURES soaring over some fields on Old 37 Northeast of Bloomington! ...susan & Jim
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