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IN-BIRD for Friday, January 18, 2002

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 Subject From Time 
 Need Loction of WinterCrow Roosts  Ron Weiss   9:31am 
 State Atlas Projects  Ron Weiss   10:35am 
 Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts  Ron Weiss   2:26pm 
 Re: more screech owl questions  Dunning, Barny  2:57pm 
 never read your own postings  Dunning, Barny  3:08pm 
 Re: Illinois information online  Don Gorney   3:11pm 
 Black Rail locations  Jhawillet(AT)AOL.COM  3:39pm 
 Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts  Angelo Dattilo   3:57pm 
 Re: Black Rail locations  J.D. Phillips  4:11pm 
 Almost Perfect Lunch Hour  Dan Kaiser   5:48pm 
 Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts  Bill Murphy   6:18pm 
 Bird Behavior  Carl Henschen   6:44pm 
 Herring versus Black-backed  Chuck Taggert   6:47pm 
 Re: Black Rail locations  Bruce M. Bowman  11:08pm 
 (Fwd) Ivory-Billed Woodpecker Recording  Bruce M. Bowman  11:08pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Need Loction of WinterCrow Roosts From: Ron Weiss <chipperwoods(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 18 Jan 2002 9:31am Dear Inbirders Does anyone know the locations of any winter crow roosts? The USDA folks at Purdue and the Indiana State Department of Health folks that are tracking West Nile Virus in Indiana would like to compile the current locations of crow roosts prior to this next mosquito season. This year, we are interested in locating roosts State wide as the West Nile Virus is more widespread than the first time we made this request. The corvids are good indicator species for WNV, and knowing the locations of their roosts will assist in tracking down the focal points of the virus infection. You can respond to the address in the heading or this message or to my address at the ISDH at rweiss(AT)isdh.state.in.us Thanks for your help! Sincerely, Ron Weiss ISDH
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: State Atlas Projects From: Ron Weiss <chipperwoods(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 18 Jan 2002 10:35am Dear Inbirders Does anyone know if Illinois has completed and published their state breeding bird atlas? Also, is there a central URL or other site that will list those states that have completed their atlas? Thanks Ron
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts From: Ron Weiss <chipperwoods(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 18 Jan 2002 2:26pm Alicia Thanks for the offer to help with the crow monitoring. I will keep you posted. We have discussed the possibity of tagging a few crows to follow their movements. As you may already know, they wander up to 50 miles or more from their roost sites. It is likely that the crows are being infected with the West Nile Virus by mosquito bites at their roost sites, so if the roost sites are located, the areas can be checked for mosquito breeding sites and the mosquito breeding sites eliminated. This is an effective and economical way to break the infection cycle. It is good for people and for the bird populations, esp. the corvids, since this virus is mostly fatal to them. There is a photo essay on the Indiana program to control WNV and the other Arborviruses on the CWBO web page in the topics menu. Ron
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: more screech owl questions From: "Dunning, Barny" <bdunning(AT)FNR.PURDUE.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 2:57pm The message below appeared earlier this week, and I have not seen any = posted responses. I just reclaimed my BNA account for the Eastern = Screech-Owl, and can report the following: Nesting takes place in a period lasting about 18 weeks, and begins = earlier in the southern portion of the species' range (i.e., egg dates = range 6-7 days earlier in northern population than for those in = Florida). A complete portrait of timing is available only for central = Texas populations:=20 courtship: late Jan-mid March first egg: 21 March in suburbs, 27 March in rural areas first hatchling: 21 April in suburbs, 27 April in rural areas first fledgling: 18 May We can add a week or so to those dates for our latitude. Eggs are laid = later in rural areas than in suburbs, and later in suburbs than in city = centers, probably due to the "urban heat island" effect which makes = urban areas comparatively warm and wet. Eggs are also laid later in = cold springs, in years with low food supply, and if both parents are = inexperienced. Barny -----Original Message----- From: Pj & Lori Pulliam [mailto:pulliams(AT)ATT.NET] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:22 PM To: IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG Subject: [IN-BIRD] more screech owl commentary, questions recently our screech owl has only eaten one mouse instead of it's normal 3-4 on three different nights and on one occasion passed entirely and then flew into the woods . my wonder as to why was shortly answered when i heard it doing the social call in the woods. seems he may have something more important on his mind. now the question. when do they start pairing up, mating, laying eggs etc. the people on this list have been very helpful with all of my questions. thanks. pj & lori
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: never read your own postings From: "Dunning, Barny" <bdunning(AT)FNR.PURDUE.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 3:08pm I just looked over my last posting and realized I got one thing mixed = up. Since phenology is advanced earlier in the southern part of the = Eastern Screech-Owl range, then I should'a written: "... egg dates range 6-7 days LATER in northern populations than in = Florida..." Barny Department of Forestry and Natural Resources Purdue University West Lafayette IN 47907-1159 bdunning(AT)fnr.purdue.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Illinois information online From: Don Gorney <dongorney(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 18 Jan 2002 3:11pm Ron and others, Illinois has not published their breeding bird atlas yet. However, Vernon Kleen has done a great job of getting breeding bird maps online at: http://www.inhs.uiuc.edu/chf/pub/ifwis/maps/ --- Ron Weiss <chipperwoods(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> wrote: > Dear Inbirders > > Does anyone know if Illinois has completed and published their state > breeding bird atlas? > > Also, is there a central URL or other site that will list those > states > that have completed their atlas? > > Thanks > Ron ===== Don Gorney Indianapolis, IN dongorney(AT)yahoo.com www.dongorney.com __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Black Rail locations From: Jhawillet(AT)AOL.COM Date: 18 Jan 2002 3:39pm My impression is that Black Rail is a long shot in Indiana and neighboring states--I don't have the bird on my Indiana state list. If you are planning to travel, though, here are some good spots for at least hearing one of the maddening little critters: 1. West Pond and Mittry Lake, Lower Colorado River Valley, California/Arizona. See the ABA Birder's Guide to Southern California. Great spots--I'm 3 for 3 in hearing them in this area, but didn't see any. And they responded not just after dark but also at 8-9 a.m. on a sunny day on one occasion, and 12:30 p.m. on a cloudy day another time. 2. Anahuac National Wildlife Refuge, upper Texas coast; see ABA Birder's Guide to the Texas Coast. I haven't tried for them here, but it is supposed to be a great spot, especially in spring migration. 3. Roanoke Island, North Carolina; see John Fessell's Birder's Guide to Coastal North Carolina. Good for hearing them toward and after sundown in spring and early summer, I understand; again, not from personal experience. 4. Elliott Island, Maryland's Eastern Shore; see Claudia Wilds, Finding Birds in the National Capital Area. In the 1970s and 1980s, this was considered the best spot on the east coast. Maryland birders held night trips in June and almost always got them, frequently even SAW one! (I was on two of those ventures and never even heard one--just lucky, I guess). Haven't heard much about this site lately, but I think it is still good. Jim Haw
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts From: Angelo Dattilo <adattilo(AT)SECOR.COM> Date: 18 Jan 2002 3:57pm Mosquito breeding sites are virtually everywhere in Indiana. How will they be eliminated? Will chemicals be used? -----Original Message----- From: Bird discussion list for Indiana [mailto:IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG]On Behalf Of Ron Weiss Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:32 AM To: IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG Subject: Re: [IN-BIRD] Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts Alicia Thanks for the offer to help with the crow monitoring. I will keep you posted. We have discussed the possibity of tagging a few crows to follow their movements. As you may already know, they wander up to 50 miles or more from their roost sites. It is likely that the crows are being infected with the West Nile Virus by mosquito bites at their roost sites, so if the roost sites are located, the areas can be checked for mosquito breeding sites and the mosquito breeding sites eliminated. This is an effective and economical way to break the infection cycle. It is good for people and for the bird populations, esp. the corvids, since this virus is mostly fatal to them. There is a photo essay on the Indiana program to control WNV and the other Arborviruses on the CWBO web page in the topics menu. Ron
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Black Rail locations From: "J.D. Phillips" <phillipj(AT)WABASH.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 4:11pm Another good Black Rail location is the Palo Alto Baylands just south of San Francisco. A few times each winter the tide gets so high that all the Black Rails in the park scurry to the very few patches of land that don't get submerged. Sometimes you get almost perfect views of the rails, just a few feet in front of you, clinging to the last dry clump of land in the park. But you do have to be there for the unusually high tides, which are, of course, forecast with great accuracy well in advance. . . Clapper Rails are easy to find there, high or low tide. Cheers, J.D. Phillips ******************* J.D. Phillips, Chair Department of Mathematics and Computer Science Wabash College Crawfordsville, IN 47933 email: phillipj(AT)wabash.edu Phone: 765-361-6431 Fax: 765-361-6340 Department web page: http://www.wabash.edu/depart/math/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Almost Perfect Lunch Hour From: Dan Kaiser <dhkaiser(AT)SPRYNET.COM> Date: 18 Jan 2002 5:48pm As I left for lunch today I felt a little melancholy. Last weekend's trip to Lake Monroe to spot eagles had fallen short. Lot's of birds but no eagles. Barb and I were looking forward to this upcoming weekend's Turkey Run DNR's Eagle watch, a sure thing eagle trip. Only Barb has come down with a cold and my schedule ensures another saturday at work. To top it off Barb had just canceled our lunch date, she had to work through lunch hour. As I said I was a little melancholy. But that was soon to change. As I drove to the Subway I spotted a hawk soaring over the highway garage here in Columbus. Couldn't tell, probably a Cooper's or a Sharp-shinned. Sort of neat I thought to myself. I then headed to Mill Race Park which is next to downtown Columbus. Parked next to the boat ramp. Down by the river was one Canada goose and the one domestic goose we frequently see with the Canada's. As I started munching my sub I noticed a Great Blue Heron flying along the bank of the river. Passed by me and continued another 60 yards or so when yet a second Great Blue took flight. The first made a 180 and returned to land right in front of me. The domestic goose gave the heron a lot of static as it passed by but the heron pretty much ignored it. I pulled out my binoculars and got some great views of the heron as it slowly walked down the shore line in front of me and then retraced it's steps. It then flew to the man made pond behind me. This all expired over a 15 minute period. I was feeling a little more chipper and decided to exit through the north end of the park. A slow drive through the park sometimes is rewarded with a hawk, or a Kingfisher or something. However the only thing I saw of interest was the heron until I passed through the covered bridge. As I rounded the curve at the north end of the park I spotted a large hawk soaring low on the far side of highway 11. And then another. I pulled over and put the binoculars on them. Two Red-tailed Hawks apparently had just taken wing and were trying for altitude. Several times they both crossed the field of view of the binoculars simultaneously. Really neat I thought to myself, I'm feeling a lot better now! Wait, there is a third. Stepping out of the truck I put my glasses on it, yes another Red-tailed. But then the others were diving down, going below my horizon on the far side of the road. I jumped back in the truck and drove to the park exit. There I see one of the hawks perched on a pole right across the street. I stop and put the glasses on him. REALLY great view, thank you bird! Another minute and someone pulls up behind me and honks. I step out and wave them around. Somewhat irritated the driver complies. Stranding there I watch as the hawk flies away to a goal post maybe 50 yards away. Well I'm ready to go back to work now, feeling rejuvenated. Wait! What is that! A BIG bird flying over the bridge. It's got a white head! YES, it's a Bald Eagle! The binoculars confirm it, as I follow it for about 10 seconds before it disappears behind some trees along the river. A Bald Eagle here _in_ Columbus! Now I am flying high myself, grinning as I drive back to work. The only thing that could have made it any better, is if Barb had been with me. Dan
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts From: Bill Murphy <billmurphy8(AT)home.com> Date: 18 Jan 2002 6:18pm Hi Ron, At 2:30 pm today I saw an intriguing site over Ft. Ben. As I watched it in the distance, my first thought was that it resembled a circling, swirling kettle of Broad-winged Hawks, which would be impossible here after October. As it came closer, I saw that the kettle consisted of about 75 soaring crows. After a few minutes the kettle dissipated and the crows flew purposefully and individually toward the south. Never seen that sort of group action in crows before. --Bill Murphy, Indianapolis ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ron Weiss" <chipperwoods(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> To: <IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2002 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [IN-BIRD] Need Loction of Winter Crow Roosts > Alicia > > Thanks for the offer to help with the crow monitoring. I will keep you posted. We have discussed the possibity of tagging a few crows to > follow their movements. As you may already know, they wander up to 50 miles or more from their roost sites. > > It is likely that the crows are being infected with the West Nile Virus by mosquito bites at their roost sites, so if the roost sites are > located, the areas can be checked for mosquito breeding sites and the mosquito breeding sites eliminated. This is an effective and economical > way to break the infection cycle. It is good for people and for the bird populations, esp. the corvids, since this virus is mostly fatal to > them. > > There is a photo essay on the Indiana program to control WNV and the other Arborviruses on the CWBO web page in the topics menu. > > Ron
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Bird Behavior From: Carl Henschen <cdhensch(AT)geetel.net> Date: 18 Jan 2002 6:44pm Thought this might be of some interest. I'm also curious to see if anyone else experienced anything similar. I was at the Lilly Nature Center in Laf. and sitting by the bird viewing windows. At first I saw only a lone male House Finch who was right in front of me. Then I looked over to the side window to see a Tree Sparrow, my first for the year. I watch the sparrow go from one feeding area to another, until it was up on the same feeding post as the finch. I then watched as the sparrow was kicking up the sunflower seeds like it was looking for a special tidbit. I suddenly realized that in doing this it was showering the finch. This kept up for several seconds and even backing up closer to the finch, that was when I realized that it was intentional. It was so funny to watch. The finch wasn't going to give ground very easily, but he decided he had enough, so he moved over to another corner (maybe 10 inches). Very slowly the sparrow started to turn, scattering seeds as he went, until again his back was facing the finch so he continued to pelt the poor finch. This only happened a few seconds because they both took off. They may have seen the Cooper's Hawk that I had seen flying overhead not too long after this occurred. As an extra bonus, I also had a very close look of a coyote that came into the clearing, not long after my bird experience. It was a beautiful animal with a variety of colors and it very big. But he had a bad case of mange with large areas denuded of fur. I was able to watch him for about one minute before he ducked into the marsh area. Boy did he blend, I lost him right away. I say him because he was so big and I'm thinking that the male is somewhat larger then the female, is that correct? Mary Henschen Rossville
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Herring versus Black-backed From: Chuck Taggert <warrech(AT)EARLHAM.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 6:47pm Hey Guys, As I grow as birder I have begun to notice certain rare opportunities that arise while I am birding. Recently I was in New York City for a choir tour. Being a born and raised a mid-western boy, I hate cities. So, I decided to go to the beach instead of touring the city. The birds near Coney Island were amazingly diverse. I was able to observe four relatively common gulls within a few feet of me in several different plumages. The most numerous were, of course, Ring-billed Gulls. There was a small tightly knit flock of Bonaparte's Gull within the Ring-bill's. There was a good number of Herring Gulls and Greater Black-backed Gulls as well. The most extraordinary thing that I was able to see was the difference between Immature HG and Immature GBBG up close. There were three bright-eyed imm. GBBG on the beach and about five imm. HG. All eight imm. stayed closely together on the beach and only took flight only if I moved closer than arms length from them. I was able to squat down and look closely at the two species' immatures. Most books I have seen do not do the difference justice. There is an obvious difference in size overall between the two species and the HG's were also noticeably lighter in the head, in color not brains, than the GBBG. Also, the extent of the dark colorization of the beaks was greater on the GBBG. I do imagine that seeing these two immatures separate from each other will still be tricky but after this I'm confident that I will be able to make the call. From a distance the biggest difference I noticed was that the GBBG's was darker overall and the HG's were a warmer brown. I for sure will not pass off any brown gull as an immature Herring Gull. As a point of interest here was my overall list from Coney Island: Bonaparte's Gull Ring-billed Gull Herring Gull Greater Black-backed Gull Red-breasted Merganser Mallard Purple Sandpiper ? Scoter (flyby-no binocs) Chris Warren Earlham College Richmond, IN
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Black Rail locations From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman(AT)UMICH.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 11:08pm High water forcing the rails to patches of high ground makes them easy pickings for Great Blue Herons. Bruce > Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 16:11:12 -0500 > Reply-to: "J.D. Phillips" <phillipj(AT)WABASH.EDU> > From: "J.D. Phillips" <phillipj(AT)WABASH.EDU> > Subject: Re: [IN-BIRD] Black Rail locations > To: IN-BIRD(AT)LIST.AUDUBON.ORG > Another good Black Rail location is the Palo Alto Baylands just south of > San Francisco. A few times each winter the tide gets so high that all > the Black Rails in the park scurry to the very few patches of land that > don't get submerged. Sometimes you get almost perfect views of the > rails, just a few feet in front of you, clinging to the last dry clump > of land in the park. But you do have to be there for the unusually high > tides, which are, of course, forecast with great accuracy well in > advance. . . Clapper Rails are easy to find there, high or low tide. > > Cheers, > J.D. Phillips > > ******************* > J.D. Phillips, Chair > Department of Mathematics and Computer Science > Wabash College > Crawfordsville, IN 47933 > email: phillipj(AT)wabash.edu > Phone: 765-361-6431 > Fax: 765-361-6340 > Department web page: http://www.wabash.edu/depart/math/ ---------------------------------------------------------------- Bruce M. Bowman | Ann Arbor, Michigan USA | The bird is always right. bbowman(AT)umich.edu ------ | -- Todd Newberry bmb(AT)biosci.umtri.umich.edu -- +++++++ I'M FOR THE BIRDS ++++++++ http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: (Fwd) Ivory-Billed Woodpecker Recording From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman(AT)UMICH.EDU> Date: 18 Jan 2002 11:08pm ------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2002 13:56:20 -0500 From: Rosemary Rader <drrar(AT)wccnet.org> Organization: Washtenaw Community College To: drrar(AT)wccnet.org Subject: Ivory-Billed Woodpecker Recording If you missed the segment on NPR's All Things Considered on Wed., January 16, about the search for the ivory-billed woodpecker in Louisiana, you may be interested in going to their archive site, http://www.npr.org/ramfiles/atc/20020116.atc.09.ram and listening for yourself. (You can hear the report with "Real Player".) The highlight for me was hearing a 1935 recording of said woodpecker! Rosemary Rader
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