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KSBIRD-L for Saturday, July 20, 2002

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 Subject From Time 
 Clinton Lake birds  Kylee Sharp   11:12am 
 Origin of name Jenny Wren  Patty Marlett   11:16am 
 Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren  Thomas & Sara Shane   2:50pm 
 Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren  Gregg & Joanna Fries  4:13pm 
 Re: Black capped vireos attracted to new nesting sites....  Kevin Groeneweg   4:46pm 
 Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren  Scott & Diane Seltma  5:33pm 
 jenny wren  Linda and Don Mallon  9:28pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Clinton Lake birds From: Kylee Sharp <kyleemsharp(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 20 Jul 2002 11:12am My husband, Scott, and I drove out to the Wakarusa arm of Clinton Lake today, west of Lawrence, to see what might be there. Didn't get out there until about 9:20, but there were quite a few shorebirds in the area. We estimated roughly 60 shorebirds, the majority of which were Killdeer, but I did scope out at least 4 Greater Yellowlegs, a couple of Pectoral sandpipers, and a few (~10) smaller peeps. I could not tell for sure if they were semipalmated sandpipers or least sandpipers, but those are what I usually see out there. My tripod for my scope broke (plastic hinges), so I couldn't scope it very thoroughly, but there were more birds there than I expected to see. We also counted 21 Great Blue Herons and 19 Great Egrets. Kylee Sharp Lawrence, Kansas "In the end, we will conserve only what we love, we will love only what we understand, we will understand only what we are taught." Baba Dioum, Conservationist _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Origin of name Jenny Wren From: Patty Marlett <pmarlett(AT)MAC.COM> Date: 20 Jul 2002 11:16am I got this question through the Wichita Audubon website. Can anyone help him? --Patty Marlett Why do we call House Wrens "Jenny Wrens"? I've been researching this and can't find any answers. I have wren houses occupied every year and enjoy watching and listening to them. Barry Avery <bavery(AT)ksdot.org> For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren From: Thomas & Sara Shane <shane(AT)PLD.COM> Date: 20 Jul 2002 2:50pm Patty, I checked over a dozen books and the only information I could find was in the following: Wetmore, Alexander. 1937. The Wrens. Pp 145-153 in The Book of Birds, Vol. II (G. Grosvenor and A. Wetmore, eds.). National Geographic Society, Washington. D. C. "JENNY WREN" IN THE ROLE OF A GOSSIP **The wren of popular fancy and fable is the species of western Europe, which is closely allied to the winter wren of North America. Early settlers in our country, familiar with the common birds in their Old World home, recognized the relationship of this bird to the bird we know as the house wren and bestowed on it the familiar name of their former residence. The "jenny wren" thus was transplanted to America in name if not in fact, and the appellation has persisted, the bird being widely known.** You are on your own with the European origin. TS -----Original Message----- From: Birds & Their Habitats in Kansas [mailto:KSBIRD-L(AT)ksu.edu]On Behalf Of Patty Marlett Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2002 11:16 AM To: KSBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.KSU.EDU Subject: Origin of name Jenny Wren I got this question through the Wichita Audubon website. Can anyone help him? --Patty Marlett Why do we call House Wrens "Jenny Wrens"? I've been researching this and can't find any answers. I have wren houses occupied every year and enjoy watching and listening to them. Barry Avery <bavery(AT)ksdot.org> For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren From: Gregg & Joanna Friesen <gjrk(AT)SOUTHWIND.NET> Date: 20 Jul 2002 4:13pm Patty, This web site speaks to the issue but, like Tom's reference, is still a bit incomplete. http://www.takeourword.com/TOW157/page2.html a short quote follows: "When the word jack is attached to the name of an animal it either means "male" (as in jack-hare) or indicates a small size. The jackdaw (Corvus monedula) is certainly one of the smallest members of the crow family but, in this case, jack is one of many personal names which were given to several birds in the Middle Ages. Other birds which acquired personal names were the jay (from the Latin name Gaius), the martin, the robin and the jenny-wren. Also, to British children, any small bird is called a dicky-bird." Nice web site if one wants to pursue a few words and their meaning. Gregg Gregg Friesen gjrk(AT)southwind.net Newton, KS For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Black capped vireos attracted to new nesting sites.... From: Kevin Groeneweg <kgroeneweg(AT)COX.NET> Date: 20 Jul 2002 4:46pm For those who wish to know more about this subject, Wichita Audubon is having Gil Eckrich, who is the outreach coordinator for the Natural Resources Management Branch at Fort Hood, speak at our program meeting on November 19, 2002. Gil's program, entitled "Success in Local Recovery of an Endangered Songbird, the Black-capped Vireo", will include discussion of the method of "conspecific attraction" mentioned below, which he feels will be of special interest to Kansas birders. The program is at the Great Plains Nature Center, 29th and Woodlawn in Wichita, at 7:30 pm that evening. Kevin Groeneweg Wichita Audubon -----Original Message----- From: Birds & Their Habitats in Kansas [mailto:KSBIRD-L(AT)ksu.edu]On Behalf Of Brad Williamson Sent: Friday, July 19, 2002 10:06 AM To: KSBIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.KSU.EDU Subject: Black capped vireos attracted to new nesting sites.... Science Online reports on a paper presented this week at the Society for Conservation Biology that may be of interest.. The paper reports the results of work done in Texas to attract Black capped vireos to new nesting habitat. Essentially they played recorded territorial calls in the new habitat during spring migration. From the Science online site: "..Michael Ward and Scott Schlossberg, both ecologists at the University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign, suspected that young vireos might be attracted to the songs of their elders, in order to learn how to choose a nesting area. They tested their theory by playing recorded calls at suitable nesting sites near Fort Hood, north of Austin, Texas. The faux-chirping took place in spring as the birds were returning from overwintering in Mexico. In the first year of the study the pair attracted 73 vireos to settle at five experimental sites, Ward said here 17 July at the annual meeting of the Society for Conservation Biology. No vireos settled at two silent sites. Moreover, birds who were looking for a nesting site for the first time were particularly attracted by the recordings. And they liked what they found: This year, Ward said, almost all birds from one test site returned, even though the call boxes had been removed. Previously, the U.S. Army had unsuccessfully tried for 12 years to establish black-capped vireos on the base... --ADAM BOSTANCI " For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Origin of name Jenny Wren From: Scott & Diane Seltman <sselt(AT)GBTA.NET> Date: 20 Jul 2002 5:33pm Patty: I have seen the origin of "Jenny Wren" discussed several times in the past but without much light being shed on it. I don't know the origin myself, but here's my off-the-wall take on the matter. The word "wren" is very old and existed in OE as "wrenna" or "wrenne" ["double U's" weren't necessarily written the same as now] but the word "jenny" is of French origin and usually denotes femininity as in "jenny" mule. The proper name "Jenny" appears very infrequently in early English literature. Shakespeare apparently only mentioned the name once: ========================= Vengeance of Jenny's case! fie on her! never name her, child, if she be a whore. - - - The Merry Wives of Windsor [1597-1601] ========================= Samuel Johnson mentioned "Jenny" in one of his obscure works. [One could argue that ALL of Johnson's works were obscure!] Thomas Carlyle's wife Jenny was mentioned in a poem by Leigh Hunt. But as near as I can tell, none of these guys linked "Jenny" with the word "wren". Of course, not every phrase that occurs in English actually originated there. The note below citing a French poem from 1847 is certainly intriguing. ******************************* E. Cobham Brewer 1810-1897. Dictionary of Phrase and Fable. 1898. Jenny l'Ouvrière. A generic name for a hard-working, poor, but contented needlewoman. The name was devised by Emile Barateau, and rendered popular by his song so called. "Entendez-vous un oiseau familier? C'est le chanteur de Jenny l'Ouvriere. Au cour content, content de peu Elle pourrait être riche, et préfère Ce qui vient de Dieu." (1847.) ******************************** Whether this fellow really invented the term "Jenny Wren" is doubtful, but it's definitely an early reference. I'll let other KSBIRDers translate the lyric; it's not very complicated, but every time I've attempted to translate French in the past I've been accused of being " le gran idiot". Perhaps the first reference to "Jenny Wren" in British literature is from Dickens, who sort of had an OCD about creating bizarre names for his characters. He included the name "Jenny Wren" in the novel "Our Mutual Friend" published [I'm too lazy to look up the date.] not long before his death in 1870: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 'This is what your loving Jenny Wren calls the best time in the day and night,' said the person of the house. Her real name was Fanny Cleaver; but she had long ago chosen to bestow upon herself the appellation of Miss Jenny Wren." Chapter 19, "Our Mutual Friend", Charles Dickens. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Now whether Dickens' use of the name "Jenny Wren" resulted in the term entering the popular culture and whether it was then applied to the bird, I don't know. Other characters in Dickens' novels were certainly adopted into the vernacular rather quickly. Whichever way you take it, I find it intriguing that "Jenny Wren" is apparently absent in literature prior to Dickens and quite common afterwards. "Jenny Wren", the bird, later became famous as the wife of "Cock Robin" in Victorian-era children's literature, an entire genre seemingly devoted to brainwashing. Talk about mixed messages!! Sure, practicing honesty and fidelity is a good idea, but what about marrying outside one's species?? That's my report. I'll let someone else tackle related issues like Jenny Lind, Jenny MacCarthur, Jennicam and 867-5309! &&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&& The male Calliope Hummingbird seen by Don Kazmaier in Larned on 19 July was not seen again. Two unidentified empidonax flycatchers are in our yard at present. I've used up my posting privileges for the month! Scott Seltman RR 1 Box 36 Nekoma, KS 67559 sselt(AT)gbta.net For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: jenny wren From: Linda and Don Mallonee <donlin(AT)COX.NET> Date: 20 Jul 2002 9:28pm When I was a child there were references to the lovely singing voice of = Jenny Lind. She was very popular with those who heard her and even those = who did not, I believe. It is easy to make an association to the House = Wren's singing. I don't know when she lived, but I think it was late = 19th and early 20th centuries.=20 Linda Mallonee=20 Here at the pond the season is beginning to change. The BH Cowbirds are = gathering their young! and we have had a juvenile Black Crowned Night = Heron. Tonight, my husband spotted 2 brilliant Goldfinchs. A first for = our yard. The Least Terns are still fishing here. =20 For KSBIRD-L archives or to change your subscription options, go to http://listserv.ksu.edu/archives/ksbird-l.html To contact a listowner, send a message to mailto:ksbird-l-request(AT)listserv.ksu.edu
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