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LABIRD-L for Wednesday, January 3, 2001

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 Subject From Time 
 Re: Bird Feeding with Cats  Russ Allor   4:15am 
 Re: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion  Paul Dickson   8:36am 
 Hovering Orange-crowned warbler  Dennis K. Demcheck  9:46am 
 bird feeder rats  Ron Rovansek   10:32am 
 Re: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion  Paul Conover   10:33am 
 feeder cat  Ron Rovansek   10:41am 
 Vegetable Garden Birds  Beth H. Maniscalco  11:08am 
 venice CBC  R. D. Purrington  11:28am 
 Rats  Roselie Overby   1:32pm 
 Help!  Maurice Duvic Sr.  2:06pm 
 Last year's Mallard Harvest  JINGOLD   2:13pm 
 Re: Help!  Lita Pinter   2:34pm 
 SV: Rats  Trond Nilsen   3:19pm 
 Re: SV: Rats - Trond's "Norway Rats"  Maurice Duvic Sr.  3:49pm 
 Re: SV: Rats  Bill Fontenot   3:59pm 
 Re: SV: Rats  Lita Pinter   4:05pm 
 Yellow Rail  Jennifer Coulson   4:21pm 
 Re: SV: Rats. Trond's "Norway Rats" cont'd  Maurice Duvic Sr.  4:41pm 
 venice CBC  R. D. Purrington  5:07pm 
 Re: Help!  Roselie Overby   6:37pm 
 SMITH'S LONGSPURS  James Beck   6:55pm 
 Horned Larks at UL Lafayette Farm - Western St. Martin Parish, Louisiana - South-central Louisiana  Jay V. Huner  6:57pm 
 Cedar Waxwings Arrive  Janelle Breaux   6:53pm 
 Western Tanager..question  Peggy Siegert   8:37pm 
 HARRIS' HAWK, LAPLAND LONGSPUR, SAY'S PHOEBE  R. Martin Guidry  11:07pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Bird Feeding with Cats From: Russ Allor <RAllor(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 4:15am In a message dated 1/2/01 10:40:24 PM Central Standard Time, conover(AT)TALSTAR.COM writes: << correct. if you shoot the goldfinches, it makes it easier for the shrikes to eat them.* >> I was thinking about shooting the shrike along with the cat. Russ
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion From: Paul Dickson <Paul(AT)MORRISDICKSON.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 8:36am Elaine and Labird: Though not a cat lover, I agree in part with some things that Elaine says here. I have terrible problems with rats at my farm. I store tons of seed and livestock feed and rats come for it droves. I feed a dozen species of sparrows in the road near the barns, the BSG has a banding day there every year. This conflict of uses led me through a myriad of failed attempts to control rats with out a cat. My sister, who is a cat lover, told me the same thing that Elaine says here, that some cats hunt birds and others don't. To make a long story short, I hit upon a farm cat that kills rats but not birds. He is a neutered male from a farm cat linage. In his 3 years of life he has killed only 5 birds: 1 house sparrow, 3 brown headed cowbirds, and 1 sick red winged blackbird despite living freely right in front of my feeding area. He hunts rats that feed on the bird seed spread in the road. Its really amazing but true, he is a rat specialist and just doesn't seem interested in birds. I keep him fed and he eats his rat kills only occasionally. If I didn't feed him he probably would eat the prey, maybe birds but he gets free choice Purina Cat Chow. I also have a barn owl in my barn that seems to coexist with him, I suppose on the same supply of rats. I now have very little rat problem and do not need to use poison or traps. All cats are not bird killers; I can testify to it. Paul Dickson Caddo Parish (where there's still snow on the ground) -----Original Message----- From: Elaine Kilgore [mailto:freespark(AT)HOTMAIL.COM] Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:14 PM To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu Subject: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion Gee it isn't hard to figure out that ya'll don't like cats. I've owned cats ever since I was a kid.- a lot of cats. I spay them, give them their shots and when I live in the country I throw them outside. They've eaten a few birds but no way the numbers of one a day. Give me a break. Send that cat to the Olympics! If you watch your cat and he's stalking the birds and you find feathers in the yard well just lock the beast up. I figure the good a feeder does in the winter outweighs the damage my cat will do. If you do own a cat that will eat a bird a day there are people who are overrun with starlings and house sparrows. Maybe you could sell him on EBay. Probably a real high dollar item. Some cats are hunters - some aren't. My parakeets used to sit on my cat. Actually roaches, lizards ,rats, mice - if you have an attachment to those critters you just might want to keep you cat inside. Unless of course you have those inside and then you have other "problems" that I can't help you with. I don't shoot other peoples cats, dogs, or people driving cars that hit birds. I don't even think it's funny. I hang my feeder in a tree. Keep it filled. Feed the cat. And then I find something really important to worry about. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Hovering Orange-crowned warbler From: "Dennis K. Demcheck" <ddemchec(AT)USGS.GOV> Date: 3 Jan 2001 9:46am This winter I have enjoyed watching an Orange-crowned warbler coming to hummingbird feeders. It has been using a 3-oz. Perky Pet Little Beginner tube feeder. It has a maximum hover time of about 1 second, but it's a darn good hover, nevertheless. Ever since Christmas, however, it has been feeding more leisurely, perched on a 4 Fountains feeder, rather than hovering. Considering how much I've eaten this holiday season, I don't blame him. Dennis Demcheck Baton Rouge Aside to Paul Dickson --- Sluggo wants to give you a big hug. He is an 18-lb Maine Coon, so his hugs are no trivial matter. Just imagine a furry Bob Sargent!
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: bird feeder rats From: Ron Rovansek <Rovansek.Ronaldj(AT)EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV> Date: 3 Jan 2001 10:32am This is a multipart message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- May be the rats up here are less bold or the squirrels more vicious, but when I used to feed birds in my backyard in Edison, NJ, the occasional rat that came by was terrified of grey squirrels, and would not come into the yard when a squirrel was present (I counted up to 17 squirrels in my 20x20 ft backyard). Kinda makes you wonder why we are all afraid of rats, but think squirrels are cute. If your squirrels aren't doing the job, perhaps a screech owl box could be erected. Ron Rovansek New Jersey - land of the scaredy-rat copied message: BIRD FEEDING WITH RATS I was sitting on the patio this evening and saw one scurry from the direction of the bird feeders under the wood deck. Geeze, I'm a live and let live kinda guy but RATS!!! A couple of years ago they found their way up the corner molding of the exterior siding and into the walls of the house. Trapping, poisoning and general harrassment seemed to turn the trick that time. Do ya'll have similiar problems with rattus norvegicus? Dave Purvis Mandeville , La ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion From: Paul Conover <conover(AT)TALSTAR.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 10:33am elaine, i love cats. that's why i take such good care of mine, including never letting her go where traffic could kill her, or where she could kill yard animals--including lizards, which i am very attached to, but which for some reason you seem to dismiss as noxious pests. i love cats, i don't get them and think 'how cute,' then throw them outside so i won't have to clean a litter box. 'love' to me doesn't just mean 'own, then treat with utter negligence'. my wife always gets on me for shooting at cats. she says it's not the cat's fault, it's the owners, and she's right. owners who make such a big noise about how they love their cats, then do the pet owner equivalent of locking the baby in the car while they gamble in the casino are the real culprits. unfortunately, i can't shoot the owners-- who deserve it-- with a pellet gun. i couldn't sell a cop on it 'just being instinct--i'm a hunter', or, 'it's her fault for not being faster, i only shoot a few each year!' i think of all the kitties i used to feed on my porch. they all belonged to people, but they were always hungry. they were all fat as could be, and old, but somehow they must have been the bruce jenners of the cat world, because they would bring home dead birds all the time. amazing how much faster an old fat cat is than a hopping baby thrasher! amazing how sad it is to watch a disemboweled baby thrasher go through death spasms because some ignorant misguided cat 'lover' thinks that the whole world wants to share mr. whiskers with her! 'lock the beast up,' is right. do it when you get them, never let them out. if they get mad, tough. we don't let kids play in the street, even if they get mad at us. please take care of your cats. i'm sure there are classes for people who don't know how. i truly don't enjoy shooting at cats, it makes me sick. paul conover tallahassee, fl ---------- > From: Elaine Kilgore <freespark(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> > To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu > Subject: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion > Date: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 11:14 PM > > Gee it isn't hard to figure out that ya'll don't like cats. I've owned cats > ever since I was a kid.- a lot of cats. I spay them, give them their shots > and when I live in the country I throw them outside. They've eaten a few > birds but no way the numbers of one a day. Give me a break. > Send that cat to the Olympics! If you watch your cat and he's stalking the > birds and you find feathers in the yard well just lock the beast up. > I figure the good a feeder does in the winter outweighs the damage my cat > will do. > If you do own a cat that will eat a bird a day there are people who are > overrun with starlings and house sparrows. Maybe you could sell him on EBay. > Probably a real high dollar item. > Some cats are hunters - some aren't. My parakeets used to sit on my cat. > Actually roaches, lizards ,rats, mice - if you have an attachment to those > critters you just might want to keep you cat inside. Unless of course you > have those inside and then you have other "problems" that I can't help you > with. > I don't shoot other peoples cats, dogs, or people driving cars that hit > birds. I don't even think it's funny. I hang my feeder in a tree. > Keep it filled. Feed the cat. And then I find something really important to > worry about. > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: feeder cat From: Ron Rovansek <Rovansek.Ronaldj(AT)EPAMAIL.EPA.GOV> Date: 3 Jan 2001 10:41am This is a multipart message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Elaine, I doubt bird feeders do any good, and overall do considerable harm. Native birds get along just fine without feeders, and I am certain that, at least in northern towns, there would be far fewer house sparrows (which keep native cavity nesters out of areas near houses) without bird feeders. If we are going to feed birds, I think we should all understand that we are doing so for our enjoyment, not for the good of the birds. Hey, this is just my opinion, Ron Rovansek Easton, PA Elaine K. wrote: Date: Tue, 2 Jan 2001 23:14:05 -0600 From: Elaine Kilgore <freespark(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Subject: Feeding Cat: Poetry in Motion ...I figure the good a feeder does in the winter outweighs the damage my cat will do.... ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Vegetable Garden Birds From: "Beth H. Maniscalco" <cone-bhm(AT)NICH-NSUNET.NICH.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 11:08am Labirders: Yesterday morning, neighbor and good friend, Bob Simons, called to report __a lot of little birds in his garden__. Sammy and I went over to check and sure nuf, there were __a lot of little birds in his garden__. Foraging in the turnips, carrots, lettuces, and cabbages were: 6-8 Orange-crowned warblers 1 Wilson's warbler 3 Blue-gray gnatcatchers 4 Ruby-crowned kinglets (one male displaying his ruby crown) 1 Dark-eyed Junco 1 Pine warbler From his report, they stayed for 2-3 hours eating worms, bugs, aphids, etc. All responded to phishing with a Ruby-crowned kinglet flying right up to Sammy. Also, we were able to get within two feet of the garden fence without them scattering. Several of the birds were also foraging in a patch of hot peppers and shrimp plant which was interplanted and not totally frozen. Beth Maniscalco Thibodaux, La (Approx. 60 miles SW of New Orleans)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: venice CBC From: "R. D. Purrington" <rdp(AT)ROSEBUD.PHY.TULANE.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 11:28am I will try to get the Venice results posted on my website tomorrow http://www.tulane.edu/~danny/venice.html In the meantime, 7 observers in 3 parties got 145 species, with the following boldface species: Green Heron Yellow-crowned Night Heron Broad-winged Hawk (2) Groove-billed Ani (it's sad this needs to be bf) Chuck-will's Widow--3 selasphorus sp. (Rufous/Allen's)--3 Say's Phoebe--Phillip and Mac (#400 for Phillip and me) Vermilion Flycatcher Ash-throated Flycatcher Brown-crested Flycatcher (subject to further scrutiny0 Great Kiskadee Scissor-tailed Flycatcher--4 Swainson's Thrush (!) Wood Thrush Yellow-th Warbler--3 Prairie Warbler Ovenbird--2 N. Waterthrush Summer Tanager Yellow-headed Blackbird Bullock's Oriole oriole sp. Not bad....Come join us next year. In future, the saturday after christmas, unless it conflicts with New Orleans, e.g., 2005, when Christmas is on a Sunday. dan purrington (participants: muth, ousset, myers, wallace, beck, ellis, purrington)
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Rats From: Roselie Overby <rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 1:32pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Don, Labirders, Yes, I have rats out there right now enjoying the birdfood. They = are mainly cotton rats. I've seen wood rats out in an old shed, but no = Norway rats. Mice are common also--house mice, cotton mice, deer mice. = At least those are the ones I've trapped. I hate to interfer with them = at all, but they are so destructive in my house. I've lost several = articles of clothing to the bold ones that think my furniture is the = perfect place for a nest. I'd much rather leave the rodents to the = hawks, owls, and snakes. But never cats! I agree with Paul C. = Roselie Overby ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Help! From: "Maurice Duvic Sr." <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET> Date: 3 Jan 2001 2:06pm Need help to preserve my reputation as bird authority! :-) Friend reports having at his sunflower seed feeder: "Little smaller than cardinal; RED bill; long tail; yellowish breast." Escapee? Expect better description if it reappears. Vic Jackson, MS 392ll
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Last year's Mallard Harvest From: JINGOLD <JINGOLD(AT)PILOT.LSUS.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 2:13pm I received my Ducks Unlimited magazine today. A short blurb in the front about Mallards says that 415,000 Mallards were shot in Louisiana during the 1999-2000 season. This was the largest harvest for LA since the mid-70s. It also mentions that in Arkansas hunters "bagged a record 1.1 million Mallards." Jim Ingold LSU-Shreveport jingold(AT)pilot.lsus.edu
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Help! From: Lita Pinter <apinter(AT)UNO.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 2:34pm female cardinal? At 02:06 PM 1/3/2001 -0600, you wrote: >Need help to preserve my reputation as bird authority! :-) Friend >reports having at his sunflower seed feeder: "Little smaller than >cardinal; RED bill; long tail; yellowish breast." Escapee? Expect >better description if it reappears. > > Vic > Jackson, MS 392ll > >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: SV: Rats From: Trond Nilsen <trond.nilsen(AT)LARVIK.KOMMUNE.NO> Date: 3 Jan 2001 3:19pm Rosie/LABIRD: You wrote: ...but no Norway rats Jeeez, I HATE that name! And it`s no pretty sight either! Who ever came up whith a name like that in the first place, sure ain`t no friend of our tribe! On behalf of all Norwegians, Trond( SE Norway) -----Opprinnelig melding----- Fra: Roselie Overby [SMTP:rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM] Sendt: 3. januar 2001 20:34 Til: LABIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.LSU.EDU Emne: Rats Don, Labirders, Yes, I have rats out there right now enjoying the birdfood. They are mainly cotton rats. I've seen wood rats out in an old shed, but no Norway rats. Mice are common also--house mice, cotton mice, deer mice. At least those are the ones I've trapped. I hate to interfer with them at all, but they are so destructive in my house. I've lost several articles of clothing to the bold ones that think my furniture is the perfect place for a nest. I'd much rather leave the rodents to the hawks, owls, and snakes. But never cats! I agree with Paul C. Roselie Overby
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: SV: Rats - Trond's "Norway Rats" From: "Maurice Duvic Sr." <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET> Date: 3 Jan 2001 3:49pm Trond: I'm not sure of the derivation of the derogatory term but I offer this as a possible explanation: Vic Jackson, MS 392ll
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: SV: Rats From: Bill Fontenot <bbboy(AT)NATURESTATION.ORG> Date: 3 Jan 2001 3:59pm At 10:15 PM 1/3/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Rosie/LABIRD: > >You wrote: >...but no Norway rats > >Jeeez, I HATE that name! And it`s no pretty sight either! >Who ever came up whith a name like that in the first place, sure ain`t no >friend of our tribe! > >On behalf of all Norwegians, >Trond( SE Norway) a good point, trond. allow me to quote from geo. lowery jr's The Mammals of Louisiana and Adjacent Waters: "The Norway Rat has also been called brown rat, wharf rat, house rat, and sewer rat. The name Norway Rat and the specific name norvegicus, the Latin word for the country of Norway, are both misnomers, for the species is of Asiatic origin. After spreading into western Europe, it was probably first brought to America from England. Though sometimes alleged to have come from Norway, the material [specimens] from which the original [scientific] description was based was from England..." uh-huh... bill fontenot acadiana park nature station lafayette, la. > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Roselie Overby [SMTP:rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM] > Sendt: 3. januar 2001 20:34 > Til: LABIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.LSU.EDU > Emne: Rats > > Don, Labirders, > Yes, I have rats out there right now enjoying the birdfood. >They are mainly cotton rats. I've seen wood rats out in an old shed, but no >Norway rats. Mice are common also--house mice, cotton mice, deer mice. At >least those are the ones I've trapped. I hate to interfer with them at all, >but they are so destructive in my house. I've lost several articles of >clothing to the bold ones that think my furniture is the perfect place for a >nest. I'd much rather leave the rodents to the hawks, owls, and snakes. >But never cats! I agree with Paul C. > >Roselie Overby >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: SV: Rats From: Lita Pinter <apinter(AT)UNO.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 4:05pm Trond - At 10:15 PM 1/3/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Who ever came up whith a name like that in the first place, Berkenhout, 1769 (actually it was _Mus norvegicus_ originally) Lita Pinter sure ain`t no >friend of our tribe! > >On behalf of all Norwegians, >Trond( SE Norway) > > -----Opprinnelig melding----- > Fra: Roselie Overby [SMTP:rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM] > Sendt: 3. januar 2001 20:34 > Til: LABIRD-L(AT)LISTSERV.LSU.EDU > Emne: Rats > > Don, Labirders, > Yes, I have rats out there right now enjoying the birdfood. >They are mainly cotton rats. I've seen wood rats out in an old shed, but no >Norway rats. Mice are common also--house mice, cotton mice, deer mice. At >least those are the ones I've trapped. I hate to interfer with them at all, >but they are so destructive in my house. I've lost several articles of >clothing to the bold ones that think my furniture is the perfect place for a >nest. I'd much rather leave the rodents to the hawks, owls, and snakes. >But never cats! I agree with Paul C. > >Roselie Overby > >
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Yellow Rail From: Jennifer Coulson <Jacoulson(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 4:21pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi folks. Tom, Christie Reihl and I were banding grassland birds on the Crescent Acres Landfill today and we herded a juvenile Yellow Rail into a mist net and banded it (photos too). We also banded 6 LeConte's and 1 Henslow's Sparrow. Jennifer Coulson ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: SV: Rats. Trond's "Norway Rats" cont'd From: "Maurice Duvic Sr." <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET> Date: 3 Jan 2001 4:41pm Page II (Sorry; hit the wrong button.) In New Orleans - and no doubt other ports - it was necessary to put conical metal devices on the mooring lines (ropes) to stop rats from getting to the wharf. Probably, since most of the shipping was Norwegian operated, the rats were called "Norwegian." (Just guessing.) I'm sure there was no offense meant! Vic Jackson, MS 392ll
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: venice CBC From: "R. D. Purrington" <rdp(AT)ROSEBUD.PHY.TULANE.EDU> Date: 3 Jan 2001 5:07pm Two things I forgot re Venice: 1) boldface bird: Painted Bunting 2) 0 House Sparrows! dan purrington
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Help! From: Roselie Overby <rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 6:37pm I vote for female cardinal, too. Some of the females at my feeders are quite colorful. Roselie -----Original Message----- From: Maurice Duvic Sr. <jsb8(AT)WEBTV.NET> To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu> Date: Wednesday, January 03, 2001 2:08 PM Subject: Help! Need help to preserve my reputation as bird authority! :-) Friend reports having at his sunflower seed feeder: "Little smaller than cardinal; RED bill; long tail; yellowish breast." Escapee? Expect better description if it reappears. Vic Jackson, MS 392ll
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: SMITH'S LONGSPURS From: James Beck <buteo(AT)WORLDNET.ATT.NET> Date: 3 Jan 2001 6:55pm LABIRD, George Domas, Doug O'Bannon and I had TEN SMITH'S LONGSPURS yesterday on the Reserve CBC. An individual was flushed from the ground first, light buffy with white outer tail feathers, and gave a dry rattle. After about 45 minutes, two more flew over us in great sunlight, one having remnants of what appeared to be leftover alternate plumage on the head. Beautiful individuals. Later we had another flock of six, with NO Laplands. Every longspur I laid my eyes on had no trace of "red" in the wings or otherwise, and was this buffy color mentioned above. All the birds were heading northwest, respectively and were not found in any fields we birded. A few people were supposedly going to look for them today so, more later. Good birding, James
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Horned Larks at UL Lafayette Farm - Western St. Martin Parish, Louisiana - South-central Louisiana From: "Jay V. Huner" <jjhuner(AT)MINDSPRING.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 6:57pm Got to the Farm this morning at about 7:30 AM - "slept in"! Had to open the gate but saw a lot of activity nearby and assumed it was the American Pipit flock that greets me most mornings these days. Instead and much to my surprise, it was a flock of about 30 Horned Larks - Bird No. 237 for the Farm! So, who knows maybe a junco or a creeper or a nuthatch will show up to make No. 238?! Jay Huner
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Cedar Waxwings Arrive From: Janelle Breaux <JANTIQ125(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 6:53pm Scores of Cedar Waxwings and Robins in my trees today. Also a Yellow Rumped Warbler eating under the feeders, along with my regular winter resident White Throated and House Sparrows. Janelle Breaux Lafayette, off K. Saloom Rd.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Western Tanager..question From: Peggy Siegert <PEGSIEGERT(AT)CS.COM> Date: 3 Jan 2001 8:37pm LaBird, The Western Tanager was easy to find most of this afternoon feeding on sunflower seeds on either of our platform feeders. She and a flock of robins have eaten nearly all the berries in the privot. She had no interest in meal worms. How unusual is it for a Western Tanager to be here in January...or anytime...Hope some of you will fill me in on this. Peggy Siegert Slidell, LA zone 8b ****************
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: HARRIS' HAWK, LAPLAND LONGSPUR, SAY'S PHOEBE From: "R. Martin Guidry" <guidryrm(AT)home.com> Date: 3 Jan 2001 11:07pm Today (1/3/01) Karen Fay, Bruce Crider and I sought several of the birds recently reported on LABIRD. HARRIS' HAWK Immediately after exiting I-10 north (toward Sorrento/Gonzales) onto US 61 at the Sorrento exit (Exit 187) we found the Harris' Hawk perched in a tree alongside US 61. The Harris' Hawk was on the east (New Orleans side) of US 61 at Highway 3140 which is about 1/4 mile north of I-10. There is a sign that says "Sorrento Gas Storage Facility" at this intersection. The hawk has been seen perched in trees and on power poles on both sides of US 61 from this point until about 1 mile before LA 22 at Sorrento. After we observed the hawk for 15-20 seconds it flew past us about 40 yards and perched in a second tree. During the flight its underwings and tail pattern were clearly visible. The bird's feathers appeared fresh and undamaged. We saw the Harris' Hawk about 8:15 am. To find this location take I-10 to Exit 187 (Sorrento Exit). If traveling from New Orleans, exit north (toward Sorrento/Gonzales) onto US 61 and begin scanning the trees and power poles. If traveling from Baton Rouge, exit south onto US 61 (toward Grammercy; there is no north exit) and proceed to the first turn-around about 1/2 mile ahead on the left. Make a U-turn at the turn-around and proceed under I-10. Begin scanning the trees and power poles on both sides of US 61. LAPLAND LONGSPURS After observing the Harris' Hawk, we went to the Bonnet Carre spillway to look for longspurs. Take I-10 to LaPlace and exit south (right) at Highway 51 (Exit 209). Take Highway 51 to US 61 and turn east (left). Stay on US 61 for several miles until the small rise at the spillway. This is just past Evangeline Street. At the small rise turn right onto CC Road. Stay on CC Road until just before the sharp bend to the right at the Mississippi River. Just before the bend turn left and go up the levee. At the top of the levee bear left onto the asphalt road at the base of the levee. Once on the asphalt road you'll see the spillway structure on your right. We found LAPLAND LONGSPURS between the asphalt road and the spillway structure in the short grass. Exactly where Ron Stein had them on the Reserve CBC 1/2/01. We saw 6-8 winter-plumaged Lapland Longspurs intermingled with a flock of 50-70 Savannah Sparrows and 3-5 Horned Larks. We found that the best way to find the longspurs was to drive slowly down the asphalt road until the flock of sparrows, etc. flew a short distance. We then parked a short distance ahead of the flow and moved into the grassy area so that we were directly in front of the flock. In this position we could look down the 'furrows' (or flattened grassy areas where it appeared vehicles may have driven). The longspurs and sparrows were more easily seen if viewed down these relatively low-grass areas than trying to look across the higher grasses where they hid easily. Persistence is needed as the sparrows greatly outnumbered the longspurs. Listening for the longspur 'rattle' is also helpful in identifying where the longspurs are. We saw the longspurs between 9:30 - 11:15 am. We also tried for SMITH'S LONGSPURS without success. We looked on both sides of the spillway structure. On the river side we walked the grassy area near the structure for about 1/3 mile from the LaPlace end and then walked the first grassy field from the structure to the river. We only found a few American Pipits. On the lake side of the spillway structure Bruce and Karen periodically heard a two-noted longspur 'rattle' of a single bird, but we could never find the bird despite 45 minutes of searching the flock. [Those that know my auditory capabilities know why I excluded myself from hearing this call note. Very frustrating.] Maybe others will have better success. SAY'S PHOEBE We then proceeded toward Venice, LA and the woods across from Ft. Jackson (about 6 miles above Venice). Just as cited by David Muth from the Venice CBC, we found the Say's Phoebe alongside the first pond on the last dirt road south of the fort. (I believe this is the 3rd dirt road on the right after reaching the southern end of the fort as you head toward Venice.) Heading toward Venice on LA 23 this road is on your right and just past the fort. Park in the grassy area alongside the LA 23 shoulder and walk along the dirt road the short distance to the pond. The Say's Phoebe was seen perched on the dirt and in the low vegetation (about 1 foot above ground level) at the very edge of the water. This was the eastern edge of the pond (the side closest to Ft Jackson). It would periodically fly out over the water about 20 feet from the perch, snag something off the water and return to the perch area. In the immediate area repeating the same perch and flycatching behavior were four Eastern Phoebes. Occasionally the Say's Phoebe and the Eastern Phoebes would fly across the pond to the shore adjoining the second pond to the west. We observed the Say's Phoebe about 2:00 pm. Patient helps with this bird as our first route around the pond produced only Eastern Phoebes, but on the second trip Bruce spotted the Say's Phoebe among the Eastern Phoebes. Also, it is best to be very near the water's edge (scanning far ahead as you walk) as opposed to staying several feet back on the bank of the pond. We also found an immature Painted Bunting in the scrubby area on the east edge of the first pond and two American Bitterns near the northeast and northwest shores of the second (western) pond. Thanks, Marty Guidry Baton Rouge, LA
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