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LABIRD-L for Sunday, January 7, 2001

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 Re: cats & birds  Paul Dickson   10:06am 
 Purple finches  Roselie Overby   10:55am 
 Re: [Purple finches]  cecil tarver   4:39pm 
 Pine Siskin, pheucticus grosbeak in New Orleans  David Muth   7:37pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: cats & birds From: Paul Dickson <Paul(AT)MORRISDICKSON.COM> Date: 7 Jan 2001 10:06am OK maybe I mixed up the names, the dog and the cat were curled up together in the photo but there WAS a CAT there. You think he's quietly teaching it to hunt ECDO, sort of like a secret weapon thing? -----Original Message----- From: Carol Foil [mailto:lcfoil(AT)ATTGLOBAL.NET] Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 6:37 PM To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu Subject: Re: cats & birds Wow! Coal is a cat! I have to chalk up another terrible field misidentification on my part. Golly, he is the largest and curliest cat I have ever seen tho ... I am amazed! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Dickson" <Paul(AT)MORRISDICKSON.COM> To: <LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: Re: cats & birds > Miriam: YOU GO GIRL! > > By the way, I discovered via holiday greetings that even the Emperor has a > CAT named coal! > > upper case P > > -----Original Message----- > From: MiriamLDavey [mailto:athena(AT)INTERSURF.COM] > Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2001 11:05 PM > To: LABIRD-L(AT)listserv.lsu.edu > Subject: Re: cats & birds > > > Elaine & all: > > Just to stir the pot a little: > > Have you ever wondered exactly what it is we humans do to a landscape to > make it unacceptable for so many neat birds you see mostly only when out > birding? I have. I've itemized each detrimental effect carefully, many > times. > > First we remove most of the vegetation and replace it with concrete, > buildings, lawn, and exotic vegetation that doesn't support local native > microfauna, but instead creates conditions favorable to native but > opportunistic brood parasites like Brown-headed Cowbirds, and to introduced > exotic avian life like European House Sparrows and Starlings, which crowd > out native birds. > > Then we erect streetlights and floodlights and decorative landscape > lighting that interfere with nighttime rhythms of many native creatures, > probably us included. > > Next we drown out bird and animal sounds with constant traffic, leaf-blower > and lawnmower noise. > > On top of that, we inadvertantly kill scores of birds with our vehicles, > communication towers, and glass windows. > > As if that isn't enough, when humans move into a landscape, we usually go a > step further---we actually introduce to the already damaged landscape, > harmful and destructive exotic fauna, with the number one offender the > common housecat. > > Studies have been published showing that loose housecats and feral > housecats are responsible for a suprisingly large portion of native North > American songbird mortality. > > As one who lost the battle with the rest of the family over whether our two > cats stay inside, or come and go at will inside and outside, I can testify > that both of them do catch birds at the bird feeder. This is not good. > Spreading the ground food out in an open spot, away from bushes and trees > cats like to hide behind, lately seems to have foiled our two at least > temporarily. > > The worst damage mine and other loose housecats (most cats) do, though, is > no doubt at nesting/fledging time in spring and summer. The knowledge that > our cats might well be catching and consuming not only Blue Jays and > Cardinals, but rarer nesting songbirds like the Wood Thrushes makes me sick. > > The neighborhood habitat evidently is ok, since Wood Thrushes are present > all spring & summer, but are "our" Wood Thrushes successfully raising > young, or is the abundance of loose cats helping convert my area into the > equivalent of a black hole not only for Wood Thrushes, but White-eyed > Vireos, and other less common songbirds? Their babies survive brood > parasitation by cowbirds only to get caught by an exotic predator--my cat. > What a thought. > > My family is on notice---no more cats, since we evidently are > unable/unwilling to keep them inside at all times. When these two are > gone, they will not be replaced, at least not with felines. > > People need pets. Can't argue against that. They offer us great emotional > comfort. So fellow responsible stewards of the land who seek a pet--- get a > nice dog, train it well, and keep it clean and indoors except on a leash or > under direct supervision. It's been my experience that dogs are far > superior to cats as indoor pets. (Crunch, crunch go the toes...) > > Digging this hole a little deeper (yes, let's!)---here's why dogs are > superior indoor pets, as I see it: Because dogs are trainable, and because > indoor dogs are WAY easier than indoor cats to keep clean, indoor dogs are > much more likely than cats to stay indoor pets. I can defend this point > tooth and nail (pun intended), but the details aren't all savory. > > Many of the other detrimental effects we have on native birdlife are going > to be hard to "fix". The cat one is relatively easy, I think. Let's just > make it unfashionable for one to be seen out-of-doors. > > MiriamLDavey > BatonRougeLA
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Purple finches From: Roselie Overby <rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM> Date: 7 Jan 2001 10:55am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I spotted a female purple finch both yesterday and today at the = sunflower feeders. I think there was a male today. There are so many = house finches now of various red hues that I have to look closely for = the purples. Who wanted those house finches? The flock of sandhill cranes south of Forest has increased. I saw at = least 100 Wednesday afternoon. They were not as skittish as on that = first day that I saw them in those fields. At dusk yesterday, we were = able to spot some in the field and some flying away. = Roselie Overby =20 Oak = Grove in W. Carroll Parish ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: [Purple finches] From: cecil tarver <exk5hdl(AT)NETSCAPE.NET> Date: 7 Jan 2001 4:39pm Roselie, I am the one who wants the house finches. Send them on down. Cecil Tarver Livingston, La = = = = = = = = Roselie Overby <rosebird(AT)BAYOU.COM> wrote: > --------------------------------------------- = > Attachment:=A0 = > MIME Type:=A0multipart/alternative = > --------------------------------------------- = I spotted a female purple finch both yesterday and today at the sunflower= feeders. I think there was a male today. There are so many house finche= s now of various red hues that I have to look closely for the purples. Who wan= ted those house finches? The flock of sandhill cranes south of Forest has increased. I saw at lea= st 100 Wednesday afternoon. They were not as skittish as on that first day = that I saw them in those fields. At dusk yesterday, we were able to spot some= in the field and some flying away. Rosel= ie Overby = Oak G= rove in W. Carroll Parish ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://home= =2Enetscape.com/webmail
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Pine Siskin, pheucticus grosbeak in New Orleans From: David Muth <dmuth(AT)BELLSOUTH.NET> Date: 7 Jan 2001 7:37pm All: Today on the New Orleans lakefront, along the fence at UNO east, among about a hundred goldfinches, were two siskins. These are the first I've had in New Orleans in a long, long time. Along with the single Purple Finch I had at the Nature Center Dec. 27, (and the ones seen by Tom Sherry on the New Orleans CBC), we are seeing a virtuasl WINTER FINCH INVASION! Well, by today's standards, anyway. Along the same fence I had a brief look at a problematic pheucticus grosbeak. It could have been either Rose-breasted or Black-headed--just did not see it long enough. That is the third such grosbeak I've seen this winter--quite exceptional. David Muth New Orleans
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