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OneidaBirds for March 16-22, 2003

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 Subject From Date  Time 
 [no subject]  Noelle Rayman   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  9:15am 
 Fwd: Golden Eagles  Matt Perry   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  6:30pm 
 Big Migration Day  Matthew Young   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  6:53pm 
 Meadowlark  Cheri Sassman   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  7:02pm 
 Spring & winter birds  Betty Armbruster   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  7:30pm 
 killdeer  Noelle Rayman   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  7:57pm 
 Bald Eagle  Ginny Alfano   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  8:44pm 
 What a day!  Dana Rohleder   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  9:13pm 
 Snow Geese-MNWR  Barbara Herrgesell   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  9:19pm 
 Hawk Owl - Root continues  Richard Guthrie   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  9:34pm 
 Re: Snow Geese-MNWR  Tom Lathrop   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  9:59pm 
 Barrow's Goldeneye Pix  Dana Rohleder   Sun, 16 Mar 2003  10:29pm 
 Re: Root Hawk Owl  Andrew Mason   Mon, 17 Mar 2003  12:21am 
 Chittenango/Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl  Matthew Young   Mon, 17 Mar 2003  9:21am 
 Re: Chittenango/Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl  Matthew A.Young  Mon, 17 Mar 2003  11:40am 
 Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl NO; other raptors-yes  Derek   Mon, 17 Mar 2003  3:47pm 
 Canastota Hawk Owl  Dorothy   Mon, 17 Mar 2003  5:59pm 
 FW: Double-crested Cormorant MIGRATION  Brenda Best   Tue, 18 Mar 2003  9:02am 
 fox sparrow and northern harrier  Sheila Smith   Tue, 18 Mar 2003  9:43am 
 Canastota Hawk Owl - NO  Ginny Alfano   Tue, 18 Mar 2003  9:02pm 
 Lysander/Phoenix/Fulton 3/18  Barbara Herrgesell   Tue, 18 Mar 2003  11:57pm 
 Hawk-owls: Canastota - NO, Root - YES  Tom Lathrop   Wed, 19 Mar 2003  11:27pm 
 Woodcock  joe brin   Wed, 19 Mar 2003  11:41pm 
 Canastota Hawk Owl - NO  Bill Purcell   Thu, 20 Mar 2003  1:55am 
 Woodcock and Waterfowl  Brenda Best   Thu, 20 Mar 2003  1:06pm 
 Purple Finches  Kimberlee VanNorstra  Thu, 20 Mar 2003  1:58pm 
 Nations Road Short-eared Owls  MattV.  Thu, 20 Mar 2003  2:49pm 
 Southern Highlands-hints of spring!  Matthew Young   Thu, 20 Mar 2003  3:27pm 
 [no subject]  Noelle Rayman   Fri, 21 Mar 2003  6:04pm 
 EURASIAN COLLARED-DOVE  Rodney Pack   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  12:33pm 
 Richardson's Goose  joe brin   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  2:18pm 
 Root hawk owl, Bald eagle  Betty Armbruster   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  5:49pm 
 Snowy owl?  Betty Armbruster   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  6:01pm 
 Re: Snowy owl?  Jody Hildreth   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  6:33pm 
 Syracuse RBA - March 21, 2003  Mickey Scilingo   Sat, 22 Mar 2003  6:44pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: From: Noelle Rayman <nellienoodle1(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 9:15am Male Redwing Blackbird-March 16, 2003-8:00am Southwest Oswego also a Great Blue Herron spotted flying over Walmart in Oswego,NY _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Fwd: Golden Eagles From: Matt Perry <mperry63(AT)ADELPHIA.NET> Date: 16 Mar 2003 6:30pm >X-WebTV-Signature: 1 > ETAtAhUAqRleyeYVMLRjjgrq8CIgd6aBedkCFDDQyqCz1jldHQvmXTaUdXjiTNo9 >From: stephenh(AT)webtv.net (Millard Hall) >Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 20:15:19 -0500 (EST) >To: mperry63(AT)adelphia.net >Subject: Golden Eagles > > Hi Matt, > Saw 3 Golden Eagles today on Rt. 168 just south of Mohawk.One >immature joined up with one adult and while we watched them another >adult showed up higher and farther out.Three in one binocular view was a >nice sight. > First time I have seen goldens here in the Mohawk Valley.They >drifted north out of sight after 5 minutes or so. > >Steve Hall > Ilion,NY > stephenh(AT)webtv.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Big Migration Day From: Matthew Young <grosbeak(AT)CLARITYCONNECT.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 6:53pm Hello all, Basically I drove the Southern Highlands or counted from the deck today even though I'm about 2 weeks from defending my thesis. There was a constant stream of geese all day long. Well over 20 flocks of geese moved through with more than 1200+ CANADA GEESE and 200+ SNOW GEESE. There were at least 2 pure SNOW GEESE FLOCKS(some blues included). Also, mixed BLACKBIRD flocks moved through all day--Mostly MALE RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS. From the deck in 90 minutes I had 2 RED-SHOULDERED HAWKS, 11 RED-TAILED HAWKS, 1 GOLDEN EAGLE, 1 NORTHERN GOSHAWK and 1 TURKEY VULTURE. 1 LIGHT MORPH ROUGH-LEGGED HAWK continues along Middle Lake Rd. There were singing HORNED LARKS AND KILLDEERS in many of the manured fields in the area. Additionally, 2 TURKEY VULTURES were in Manlius. Lastly, 5 PURPLE FINCHES were at the feeders on and off all day long--3 males and 2 imm/females. A EUROPEAN STARLING was doing a Blue-headed Vireo imitation--a first for me. Matt Young grosbeak(AT)clarityconnect.com Southern Highlands, Madison County ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Meadowlark From: Cheri Sassman <CESASSMAN(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 7:02pm Today at the Kirkland Bird Club meeting, Karen Evert reported an Eastern Meadowlark sighted on Fountain Street in the town of Kirkland. Cheri Sassman cesassman(AT)aol.com Utica, NY ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Spring & winter birds From: Betty Armbruster <barm17(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 16 Mar 2003 7:30pm Saw a tree full of Red winged blackbirds, a Kildeer, some Canada geese, cowbird and then went to see the Snowy owl. It is still a beautiful sight. Betty Armbruster barm17(AT)earthlink.net South of Utica, NY - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: killdeer From: Noelle Rayman <nellienoodle1(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 7:57pm Hello Everyone! What a beautiful weekend! Tonight I heard the first KILLDEER of the season at Fort Ontario and also saw RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS and a GREAT BLUE HERON. Noelle Rayman Oswego, N.Y. _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Bald Eagle From: Ginny Alfano <jgalfano(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 8:44pm What a perfect weekend! We rode our ATV 75 miles today from our land in Constableville, NY. Up in Highmarket, on Michigan Mills Rd., my husband spotted a spectacular adult Bald Eagle flying fairly low across the open field to our right. He flew directly over us with only the cloudless brilliant blue sky as the background. It was one of those special moments that makes me so glad that I'm a birder. Yesterday, we snowshoed our property and saw the following birds: Pileated Woodpecker Ravens (flew right over my head - I could hear the wingbeats) Blue Jays Red-breasted Nuthatches White-breasted Nuthatches Black-capped Chickadees Purple Finches (singing constantly in the tree tops) A weekend like this really gives us hope that spring is on the way! Ginny Alfano Canastota, NY --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: What a day! From: Dana Rohleder <dcrohleder(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 9:13pm 3/16/03 This afternoon I decided to head to Bulwagga Bay near Port Henry to check out the waterfowl I saw a few days earlier. I was disappointed with the view because of an excessive amount of shimmer through my scope. I saw a pretty evenly mixed group of Blacks, Mallards, C. Mergs, Bufflehead, Ringnecks, Scaup, & Goldeneyes, but no real detail was visible at that distance. I should have just driven over to them on the ice like everyone else was doing, but I didn't see any 2WD vehicles out there. I decided to head back north, and in Essex I did a double-take and found about 1/2 acre of open water at the ferry dock. I spent about an hour playing with my new digiscoping rig, taking pix of roughly the same mix of birds as noted above. As it got closer to sunset, more and more birds started dropping in. Suddenly I noticed I was staring down a drake Barrow's Goldeneye. After a few minutes of snapping pix of him, I realized a female Barrow's had joined him!! Not only was I lucky enough to photograph the drake, I was able to photograph the pair for several minutes until my battery crapped out. After a quick battery change, I was able to snap a couple more before they took off toward the south. What dumb luck!! A little later I was treated to the opportunity to photograph the full moon rising over VT through my rig. After that, a beautiful sun setting behind the High Peaks. The highlight of the day was on the way home - a big bug splat on my windshield - a personal early record for Essex Co.!! If you didn't get the photo attachment, I will be uploading some images to my section of the Photos area on the NNYBirds website. Dana C. Rohleder, O.D. Port Kent, NY <dcrohleder(AT)yahoo.spam> ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Snow Geese-MNWR From: Barbara Herrgesell <HerPartB(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 9:19pm I know it's time for their return, but the 300+ Snow Geese that flew over Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (Seneca Falls) yesterday (Sat. 3/15) had to keep going (north), since the main pool was still frozen. They are the first I've seen this year. The NWR centennial celebration there was superb, including an interesting talk by Michael Allen about the Bald Eagle's return to NYS following many years of hard work since the hacking program in the 70s. The center has a large screen monitor of an eagle nest now installed in the building. Barbara Herrgesell Baldwinsville HerPartB(AT)aol.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Hawk Owl - Root continues From: Richard Guthrie <gaeltic(AT)CAPITAL.NET> Date: 16 Mar 2003 9:34pm The N. Hawk Owl in Root, Montgomery County was seen yet again today, = March 16th and reported to HMBC's Birdline by several observers. One = observer watched it plunge dive into snow, only to come up empty - = (taloned?). Each day the bird stays around is a bonus. One would have thought it = would have moved on by now. Anyway, it is certainly much better weather = for watching Hawk Owls than back in January. Directions: NYS Rt. 20 west of Albany to Schoharie County Rt 7A (Corbin Hill Road); = NORTH 1.6 miles. Look for the owl ontop maple trees in front of the = farmhouse 3/10's mile into Montgomery County. If not there, continue = another 1/4 to 1/2 mile and search treetops on both sides of Corbin Hill = Road.=20 Please report results (pos. or neg.) to HMBC's Birdline 518-439-8080; = leave a message in any box by pressing the "star" button any time or = wait for the box message to finish. Box 1 has general intro info; Box 2 = has local sightings; Box 3 has latest updates; Box 4 has HMBC club = activities (meetings, fieldtrips, etc.). slainte' Rich O'Guthrie New Baltimore, The Green County gaeltic(AT)capital.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Snow Geese-MNWR From: Tom Lathrop <tlathro1(AT)ROCHESTER.RR.COM> Date: 16 Mar 2003 9:59pm At 08:18 PM 3/16/2003 -0500, Barbara Herrgesell wrote: >I know it's time for their return, but the 300+ Snow Geese that flew over >Montezuma National Wildlife Refuge (Seneca Falls) yesterday (Sat. 3/15) had >to keep going (north), since the main pool was still frozen. They are the >first I've seen this year. I led a Rochester Birding Assn./Genesee Ornithological Soc. field trip to the MNWR area today. The pools at the refuge are all frozen, but there is some open water at the north end of Cayuga Lake, along the east side of the lake. We went to Mud Lock, to a spot at the village offices in the village of Cayuga, and to a park in Union Springs. In Union Springs, at the edge of the ice, there were perhaps 1000 Snow Geese, including some blue phase. A Killdeer flew over. The Screech Owl in the Wood Duck box in the pond on Route 90 in Union Springs was sleeping in the hole in the box, and everyone got a good look at him. In the village of Cayuga, we studied a big raft with Redheads, Canvasbacks, Ring-necked Ducks, both scaup, a single Horned Grebe, a pair of American Wigeon, and all 3 mergansers. A small flock of Tundra Swans flew past. At Mud Lock we had more of the same, plus a pair of Blue-winged Teal. The Ospreys don't seem to have arrived yet. On a scouting trip on Saturday we also had Northern Pintails and Gadwall at Mud Lock, plus a heard-only Carolina Wren. Red-winged Blackbirds were notably absent on Saturday, but present and vocal on Sunday at several locations, including the refuge headquarters. One trip participant reported 3 Tree Swallows at the HQ, but I didn't see them. We had a Bald Eagle at the nest on Armitage Road, and singing Horned Larks across the road. Tom Lathrop Rochester, NY tlathro1(AT)rochester.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Barrow's Goldeneye Pix From: Dana Rohleder <dcrohleder(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 16 Mar 2003 10:29pm Digiscoped Barrow's Goldeneye drake & hen, Essex, NY 3/16/03 Dana Rohleder ********* VIEW PICTURES Dana Rohleder is sharing pictures with you using Shutterfly, the leading online photo service. To view Dana Rohleder's pictures at Shutterfly, simply go to: http://www.shutterfly.com/osi.jsp?i=67b0de21b33492302596 (If you can't click on this link, try copying and pasting it into your web browser.) NEED HELP? If you have any questions about this message, please use our convenient Customer Service contact form at: http://www.shutterfly.com/support/form8.jsp ************************************* Shutterfly Where your pictures live http://www.shutterfly.com/ ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Root Hawk Owl From: Andrew Mason <AndyMason(AT)EARTHLING.NET> Date: 17 Mar 2003 12:21am At 05:43 PM 3/15/03 -0500, you wrote: >I decided to try for the Northern Hawk Owl in the town of Root. It was on >Route 7A by the farmhouse where it has spent the last few months. While I >was there a NYS DEC vehicle pulled up and four fellows got out to look at >the Northern Hawk Owl.. Unfortunately, one of them had to joke if that >bird was in his front yard and all these people came to see it, he would >shoot it. I'm not sure his unprofessional comments made a good impression >on the family that was present. I was quite disappointed. > >Bernie Carr >Syracuse, NY >bcarr(AT)zhighway.net Bernie-- Your story reminds me of a visit I made to the local DEC office a number of years ago. On the wall of the wildlife biologists' office was a DEC-issued poster with the caption "If you care, you'll leave them there", part of a campaign to educate the public to not interfere with deer fawns, fledgling birds, etc., since the adults were likely nearby. However, the poster had been altered to read "If you care, you'll kill your share"! Andy Mason Andrew Mason 1039 Peck St. Jefferson, NY 12093 (607) 652-2162 fax-(209) 844-2203 AndyMason(AT)earthling.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Chittenango/Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl From: Matthew Young <grosbeak(AT)CLARITYCONNECT.COM> Date: 17 Mar 2003 9:21am Hello all, My office mate, a very reliable source and the person that will be studying duck nest success at the Great Swamp Conservancy reports the Chittenango/Canastota NORTHERN HAWK OWL from INDIAN OPENING ROAD north of the Thruway. He saw it over weekend. I'll get more details when I talk to him later today. Matt Young grosbeak(AT)clarityconnect.com Southern Highlands, Madison County ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Chittenango/Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl From: "Matthew A.Young" <grosbeak(AT)CLARITYCONNECT.COM> Date: 17 Mar 2003 11:40am Hello again, The N. HAWK OWL was seen at the intersection of Hardwood Island and Indian Opening roads just north of the thruway. Also, I forgot to metion in yesterday's post that many AMERICAN KESTREL have returned and are on territory on Crumb Hill Rd., Rt80/13 between New Woodstock and Sheds, Rt 80 between Sheds and Georgetown, and Rt 80 near Apulia. The PURPLE FINCHES continue at the house. Matt Young -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Young <grosbeak(AT)CLARITYCONNECT.COM> To: ONEIDABIRDS(AT)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 08:11:56 -0500 Subject: Chittenango/Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl > Hello all, > > My office mate, a very reliable source and the person that will be > studying > duck nest success at the Great Swamp Conservancy reports the > Chittenango/Canastota NORTHERN HAWK OWL from INDIAN OPENING ROAD north > of > the Thruway. He saw it over weekend. I'll get more details when I talk > to > him later today. > > Matt Young > grosbeak(AT)clarityconnect.com > Southern Highlands, Madison County > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- > For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com > Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds > All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canastota-- N. Hawk Owl NO; other raptors-yes From: Derek <dbirdwhite(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 17 Mar 2003 3:47pm Spent 1-2:00 pm looking in the vicinity previously mentioned with no luck. Lots of Kestrels in the area though. Green Lakes State Park - visually observed one GREAT HORNED OWL being mobbed by quite a few crows at 12:30. Also observed 2 RED-TAILED HAWKS circling overhead abd just prior to them two COOPER'S HAWK overheard. Finally, observed what I believed to have been a RED-SHOULDERED HAWK just outside the park on Shady Lane. Only saw it briefly though, so I can't confirm that. Derek J. White Fayetteville, NY dewhite5(AT)a-znet.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canastota Hawk Owl From: Dorothy <dwcrumb(AT)A-ZNET.COM> Date: 17 Mar 2003 5:59pm Brenda Best, Natalia Garcia and I spent quite some time today looking for the Madison County Hawk Owl. We started up the original route on Harsh Road just east of Chittenango, went to Gee Road, crossed the Thruway and took Tag Road east to Indian Opening Road. When we came to Hardwood Island Road, there was no road, street sign or anything, just a muddy lane going north. But it was a fun day Many Killdeer, grackles, Red-winged Blackbirds. Brenda spotted a Red-tailed Hawk on a nest and we found 3 used oriole nests. Good Atlas material. Dorothy Crumb ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: FW: Double-crested Cormorant MIGRATION From: Brenda Best <jabbest(AT)AMERICU.NET> Date: 18 Mar 2003 9:02am Forwarding from NYSBIRDS-L: ------ Forwarded Message > From: "Willie D'Anna & Betsy Potter" <dannapotter(AT)wzrd.com> > Reply-To: dannapotter(AT)wzrd.com > Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2003 15:35:30 -0500 > To: "NYSBirds" <nysbirds-l(AT)cornell.edu> > Cc: "Weseloh, Chip" <Chip.Weseloh(AT)ec.gc.ca> > Subject: [NYSBIRDS-L:10098] Double-crested Cormorant Migration > > Forwarding for Chip Weseloh of the Canadian Wildlife Service: > > Willie > -------------- > Willie D'Anna > Betsy Potter > Niagara Falls, N.Y. > dannapotter(AT)wzrd.com > > > Last year approximately 57,000 cormorants bred on Lake Ontario in 22 or so > colonies; these same birds (and probably a few more) will be returning this > spring during the next month or so. For several years, I have been trying to > document the visible migration of these birds....with only limited success. > I would like to ask New York birders to assist me in project. If you see > cormorants in flight, following water courses (i.e. rivers) and/or headed > for Lake Ontario or Lake Erie, PLEASE note the time, date, flock size and > location and forward that information on to me at my email address. > > I continue to be amazed that 50-60,000 cormorants can arrive here in the > spring and more than twice that number (>120,000) can leave in the autumn > and we do not know their visible migration any better than we do. What > routes do they take ? How large are their migrating flocks ? What prompts > their arrival and departure ? What times of the day do they fly ? etc.... > > If anyone would like to monitor key locations, e.g. the Niagara River, or > any rivers flowing into Lakes Ontario/Erie, please let me know. > > Thanks for your help, > > Cheers, > > Chip > > D.V. Chip Weseloh, Ph.D. > Wildlife Biologist > Canadian Wildlife Service-Ontario Region > 4905 Dufferin St. > Downsview, Ontario > M3H 5T4 > Ph=416-739-5846 > Fax=416-739-5845 > email=chip.weseloh(AT)ec.gc.ca >> Canadian Wildlife Service-Ontario Region web site: >> http://www.cciw.ca/green-lane/wildlife/ > Ornithological Council Website: http://www.nmnh.si.edu/BIRDNET > "Providing Scientific Information about Birds" > ------ End of Forwarded Message ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: fox sparrow and northern harrier From: Sheila Smith <sheilas1(AT)ADELPHIA.NET> Date: 18 Mar 2003 9:43am Yesterday I had a fox sparrow in my yard and saw a northern harrier flying west near Charlestown in Utica. Sheila Smith sheilas1(AT)adelphia.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canastota Hawk Owl - NO From: Ginny Alfano <jgalfano(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 18 Mar 2003 9:02pm I drove to Indian Opening Rd. at 3:00pm today, but had no luck finding the Hawk Owl. Did see a Northern Shrike sitting in a tree on the edge of Hardwood Island Rd just before the little bridge to the dirt road. Lots of Red-winged Blackbirds, Grackles, etc. Sure sounds like Spring! Ginny Alfano Canastota, NY --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Lysander/Phoenix/Fulton 3/18 From: Barbara Herrgesell <HerPartB(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 18 Mar 2003 11:57pm The river has opened up, thus the concentration of ducks, gulls and eagles in Phoenix and Fulton seems to have diminished. There were about 4 for sure Red-necked Grebes at Phoenix, but bad lighting may have made others unidentifiable. A few Common Mergansers, but no eagles were found at Boat Launch Stop 28 in Fulton where the river is all open. In Lysander we found 2 EASTERN BLUEBIRDS apparently back on territory on Fenner Rd., 2 HORNED LARKS on Wheaton Rd. and a flock of RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS with one RUSTY BLACKBIRD (yellow eye, all black, short tail) in it on Wheaton Rd. in trees near a field with less snow on it than most. Robins were numerous. Also on Wheaton a TURKEY VULTURE flew over. Two AMERICAN TREE SPARROWS were along Potter Rd. in Three Rivers WMA. Barbara Herrgesell Baldwinsville ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Hawk-owls: Canastota - NO, Root - YES From: Tom Lathrop <tlathro1(AT)ROCHESTER.RR.COM> Date: 19 Mar 2003 11:27pm I took the day off from work today (Wed. March 19) to try to see my life Hawk-owl. I first tried to find the one that had been reported in Canastota. I tried both the Indian Opening Road location and the original location, on Route 5 opposite the Del Mar motel, but didn't find the bird. I did not try the site near the Chittenango Rod and Gun Club. In the old Erie Canal (at Harsh Road, I think) there were several Hooded Mergansers and a pair of American Wigeon. Near the corner of Route 5 and Harsh Road was a pair of American Kestrels. I saw one fly into an opening near the roofline of a flat-roofed house. Perhaps they are trying to nest in there. I then drove to Corbin Hill Road, in the town of Root, Montgomery County. I got there about 1:30, and found the Hawk-owl at the top of a large tree in the front yard of the farmhouse, where it has been seen for over 2 months. It soon dropped down to a lower spot, where it was harder to see. After a while it flew up to the top of a telephone pole, where I was able to get stunning views of it in my scope. There wasn't much wind, and the bird was in wonderful light. It was a very satisfying way to see a lifer, well worth the trip. On the way home I was driving into the setting sun, with some high cirrus clouds. A sun dog was visible, first on the left of the sun, then on both sides. It looked like two partial rainbows on each side of the sun rather than 3 suns. I think that it continued for 15 or 20 minutes. Tom Lathrop Rochester, NY tlathro1(AT)rochester.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Woodcock From: joe brin <jnnbrin(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 19 Mar 2003 11:41pm I heard my first Woodcock of the season this evening at about 10:00 in the Three Rivers Game Management Area which is in the Town of Lysander in Onondaga County. The location was Kellog Rd. just east of the intersection with Smokey Hollow Rd. Joseph Brin jnnbrin(AT)yahoo.com Baldwinsville, N.Y. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Canastota Hawk Owl - NO From: Bill Purcell <wpurcell(AT)TWCNY.RR.COM> Date: 20 Mar 2003 1:55am I tried for the reported N. Hawk Owl in Canastota on Weds. morning and could not find it. Since driving thru the mud didn't appear to be a good idea, I walked the southern half of Hardwood Island Road up to the abandoned bridge two different times. No owl and even though there is much open habitat, the fields are cultivated muckland and my understanding is that there is usually a much lower rodent population in tilled fields than in fallow fields. Other roads in the area I checked included Indian Opening, Tackabury, Tag, Gee, New Boston, Pine Ridge and N. Main St. (CR 5). I would appreciate hearing from anyone who may have photographed this owl. Bill Purcell Hastings NY 13076 wpurcell(AT)twcny.rr.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Woodcock and Waterfowl From: Brenda Best <jabbest(AT)AMERICU.NET> Date: 20 Mar 2003 1:06pm I heard my first Woodcock of the year this morning in the Town of Lee, northeast of Lake Delta. On my way home, I checked the waterfowl at Verona Marsh, which is just opening up. Snow Goose (1 white; 1 blue) Canada Goose Black Duck Mallard Northern Pintail Green-winged Teal Ring-necked Duck Hooded Merganser I then checked southern/eastern Oneida Lake where creeks flow into it, which are the only places at this end that are open. In Verona Beach at Oneida Creek, and in Lakeport at Canaseraga Creek: Black Duck Mallard Ring-necked Duck Bufflehead Common Goldeneye Common Merganser The most variety and largest quantities were found in Bridgeport at Chittenango Creek: RED-NECKED GREBE - 1 Canada Goose Mute Swan Gadwall American Wigeon Black Duck Mallard Northern Pintail Ring-necked Duck Greater Scaup Bufflehead Common Goldeneye (about 500) Hooded Merganser Common Merg Red-breasted Merg (just one) I came back through on Tag and Indian Opening Roads in Canastota. No hawk owl. There was a mixed flock of Red-wing Blackbirds and Starlings that included 25 Rusty Blackbirds. And finally, at the overlook at Great Swamp Conservancy where the water is not open yet, there were 3 miserable-looking Great Blue Herons standing on nests in the rookery (2 of them on one nest). Brenda -- Brenda Best Durhamville, NY jabbest(AT)americu.net Nature Club of Central New York http://www.natureclubofcny.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Purple Finches From: Kimberlee VanNorstrand <vfiddle(AT)DREAMSCAPE.COM> Date: 20 Mar 2003 1:58pm 5 Purple Finches at the feeder this morning, 2 males and 3 females. = Seems like they should be moving on sometime soon doesn't it? That's = all for now. Good Birding, Andrew VanNorstrand andrew(AT)vfiddle.com=20 Oswego County ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Nations Road Short-eared Owls From: "MattV." <fickity(AT)NETSCAPE.NET> Date: 20 Mar 2003 2:49pm Greetings! Last Thursday, March 13th, I traveled to the Nations Road IBA near Geneseo (south of Rochester). I hoped that maybe I might luck into a lingering Short-eared Owl. I didn't see one, but I did find 17 SHORT-EARED OWLS that were active in the daytime at the Tadmore Farm. I belive a low-flying helicopter was the reason the Owls were aloft in the day. When I arrived, the Birds were just getting up as the helicopter was approaching. Once it passed, The Birds went back to roost. Perfect timing for me!! I got some nice digiscoped pics of the Tadmore Farms SHORT-EARED OWLS. I uploaded them to my website (finally) today. I also added a few pics of RED-HEADED WOODPECKERS from Nations Road. Since I was digging through old stuff, I put up shots of the 1st winter ICELAND GULL and 2nd winter GLAUCOUS GULL that were along the Oswego River in Baldwinsville, NY near Syracuse this winter. I hope everyone wont mind looking at winter Birds on a dull rainy day! To get to my page, follow the link below my name. Click on BIRD PHOTOS, and look for the NEW! icon. There are 7 of them to find...ENJOY!! -- Matt Victoria Zone 5 Camillus, NY 13031 USA Listowner, NYGardening-L webpage:http://www.fickity.com <www.fickity.com> "If it walks like a Duck, and quacks like a Duck; it may yet be construed a hybrid." *************************************************************** ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Southern Highlands-hints of spring! From: Matthew Young <grosbeak(AT)CLARITYCONNECT.COM> Date: 20 Mar 2003 3:27pm Hello all, Over the past few days GEESE have been moving through in a steady stream, ROBINS are hanging around the house, RW BLACKBIRDS are on territory, KILLDEERS are flying around manured field, PURPLE FINCHES are singing and doing their spring mimicry, HORNED LARKS are counter-singing, RAVENS and RED-TAILS are checking out there old nesting haunts, GOSHAWKS are doing there slow courtship flight, GREAT-HORNED OWLS are hooting just downslope, and COYOTES are yipping and howling quite close to the house. No Woodcocks yet, but there was a NORTHERN HARRIER on Penoyer Rd. yesterday and a light colored MERLIN on Rt 26 south of Georgetown today. Matt Young grosbeak(AT)clarityconnect.com Southern Highlands, Madison County ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: From: Noelle Rayman <nellienoodle1(AT)HOTMAIL.COM> Date: 21 Mar 2003 6:04pm Hello Everyone! While leaving the house this morning to run errands there were approximately two dozen SNOW GEESE flying north over the city of Oswego. Also, I spotted two SONG SPARROWS in my mother's yard in Southwest Oswego. Have a great day! Noelle Rayman Oswego, N.Y. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: EURASIAN COLLARED-DOVE From: Rodney Pack <Rp5424(AT)AOL.COM> Date: 22 Mar 2003 12:33pm Greetings all- For those intrested the EURASIAN COLLARED-DOVE that has been reported on the Walker-Lake Ontario Rd.(rte 260) North of Church Rd has been there since first reported last year. I,ve had the bird each month this year,most recently Fri Mar 21st. A home owner on the west corner of rte 260 and church came out to speak with me when he saw me out with the binos.He say's "I've been feeding this bird all winter and now I've got Two of them chasing each other around" I never picked up a second bird and only could hear one bird at any one time, if anyone picks up a second bird -please post. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Richardson's Goose From: joe brin <jnnbrin(AT)YAHOO.COM> Date: 22 Mar 2003 2:18pm While eyeing Canada Geese in Dead Creek this morning I happened upon a smaller, more compact bird. As the bird was walking on ice I could see the true size. Also, a Wigeon was in close proximity to the Richardson's and other Canadas so I got a good size comparison. The bird appeared about half the size of a Canada but not twice the size of the Wigeon. It had the shorter bill of the smaller Goose but not the real dark breast of a Cackling which I have seen in this location. Dead Creek is located in the Town of Van Buren in Onondaga County. This particular location is off of Rt.31 an the town highway department. Joseph Brin jnnbrin(AT)yahoo.com Baldwinsville, N.Y. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Platinum - Watch CBS' NCAA March Madness, live on your desktop! http://platinum.yahoo.com ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Root hawk owl, Bald eagle From: Betty Armbruster <barm17(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 22 Mar 2003 5:49pm The Root hawk owl is still there. Was across the road and down a ways in the top of another tree. There was a couple from Boston there and he spied an Bald eagle flying behind the house where the owl ususally sits. I found it in a tree back toward rt. 20 on a side road sitting in a tree with crows all around. It was an adult. Also seen within a 1/4 mile of the owl were a rough-legged hawk, and a northern harrier. A red tailed hawk was also seen in same area. Betty Armbruster barm17(AT)earthlink.net South of Utica, NY - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Snowy owl? From: Betty Armbruster <barm17(AT)EARTHLINK.NET> Date: 22 Mar 2003 6:01pm Has anyone seen the snowy owl on sulphur springs road in the las two days? I was up there both days and did not find it. Betty Armbruster barm17(AT)earthlink.net South of Utica, NY - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Re: Snowy owl? From: Jody Hildreth <jody(AT)KIDWINGS.COM> Date: 22 Mar 2003 6:33pm Hello Betty and All, I have not heard of a report of the Sauquoit Snowy Owl since Monday, March 17. Jody Hildreth - jody(AT)kidwings.com Library Media Specialist Sauquoit Valley Elementary School, New York Webmaster for KidWings - www.kidwings.com Inspiring the next generation -----Original Message----- From: ONEIDABIRDS [mailto:ONEIDABIRDS(AT)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU]On Behalf Of Betty Armbruster Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 7:59 PM To: ONEIDABIRDS(AT)MAELSTROM.STJOHNS.EDU Subject: [ONEIDABIRDS] Snowy owl? Has anyone seen the snowy owl on sulphur springs road in the las two days? I was up there both days and did not find it. Betty Armbruster barm17(AT)earthlink.net South of Utica, NY - ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: Syracuse RBA - March 21, 2003 From: Mickey Scilingo <mickey.scilingo(AT)GTE.NET> Date: 22 Mar 2003 6:44pm Compiled by: Mickey Scilingo=20 RBA BirdBox: 315-637-0318 E-mail: mickey.scilingo(AT)gte.net Onondaga Audubon Home Page: www.onondagaaudubon.org =20 # 12 - Friday, March 21, 2003 Last weekend's southerly winds and warm weather brought forth a large = push of migrants into Central NY. By Sunday evening, KILLDEER, AMERICAN = ROBINS, RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS, COMMON GRACKLES and BROWN-HEADED COWBIRDS = were practically everywhere, with a few reports of SONG SPARROWS, = EASTERN MEADOWLARKS, and EASTERN BLUEBIRDS mixed in. On Tuesday, 1 = RUSTY BLACKBIRD was in a flock of RED-WINGED BLACKBIRDS in Lysander, = while throughout the week, flocks of SNOW GEESE were seen making their = way north amid the numerous skeins of CANADA GEESE. There has been only = one report of a FOX SPARROW so far, that of a bird in a yard near Utica = on Monday, but PURPLE FINCHES are being reported from several feeding = stations. Over 100 birders enjoyed the hawk flight at Derby Hill on Sunday. More = than 500 raptors took advantage of the mild weather, including 7 GOLDEN = EAGLES and 4 BALD EAGLES. The non-raptor migration was highlighted by = the season's first 4 TREE SWALLOWS, a steady flow of almost 7000 = AMERICAN CROWS, around 200 ROBINS, and over 7000 blackbirds. Saturday's = migrants included 4 AMERICAN PIPITS, 85 SNOW BUNTINGS, many HORNED = LARKS, and a NORTHERN SHRIKE. Today (Friday) the season's first migrant = EASTERN PHOEBE showed up, and the blackbird count was near 25,000. With = Sage Creek Marsh still frozen, many waterfowl have taken up residence = off the bluff on Lake Ontario near the edge of the ice ledge, including = up to a dozen WOOD DUCKS, several NORTHERN PINTAIL, a few GADWALL and = WIGEON, and a PIED-BILLED GREBE, plus the usual winter species. The male TUFTED DUCK was still near the mouth of the Oswego River over = the weekend. As many as 500 LONG-TAILED DUCKS and 23 WHITE-WINGED = SCOTERS were also present. In Phoenix, at least 21 RED-NECKED GREBES = were still present on the river Tuesday, where 4-6 BALD EAGLES have been = spotted at various times. On Monday, 4 TUNDRA SWANS, 3 AMERICAN WIGEON, = 2 GREEN-WINGED TEAL, and a few CANVASBACK were among the dozen species = of waterfowl located along the west shore of Onondaga Lake, between = Pleasant Beach and the mouth of Nine Mile Creek. The SNOWY OWL in Sauquoit was seen on Saturday and Sunday, but there = have been no reports of anyone trying for it since. Two AMERICAN WOODCOCKS were seen and heard along Fisher Rd near the = DeWitt Marsh on Monday evening, and another was heard along Kellogg Rd = near Smokey Hollow Rd in Three Rivers WMA on Wednesday. Two LAPLAND LONGSPURS were with a flock of HORNED LARKS on Hoag Rd in = Van Buren on Saturday. Two GREAT HORNED OWLS were heard calling in = Green Lakes State Park on Saturday, and one was seen being mobbed by = crows on Monday. Two FISH CROWS in the Shop City plaza in Syracuse were = heard calling from the light tower across from the Blockbuster Video = store. Shop City is located at the intersection of Grant Blvd and Teall = Ave on the east side of the city. From the north country comes a report of 2 GRAY PARTRIDGES in Cape = Vincent on Friday afternoon, March 14. They were seen in the front yard = of a house along CR 57, about 1.2 miles south of Rt 6. The house should = be easy to find, as it is the only one in the area where the front porch = is under renovation. Finally, there comes an as yet unverified sighting of the/a NORTHERN = HAWK OWL in the Canastota area. The bird was reported to be seen along = Indian Opening Rd near the intersection of Hardwood Island Rd on an = unspecified date sometime early last week (Mar 9-11?). Hardwood Island = Rd is an unposted, dirt rd that runs north of Indian Opening Rd on the = north side of the Thruway. Many birders on several occasions this week = spent time in this area without re-spotting the Owl, but one birder did = come away with a NORTHERN SHRIKE sighting as a consolation on Tuesday, = while another had 25 RUSTY BLACKBIRDS on Thursday. If anyone does = relocate this Hawk Owl, they are urged to call the Birdbox as soon as = possible with details of the sighting. On Saturday, March 29, David Wheeler will lead a field trip to Onondaga = Lake to search for spring migrants. Contact Dave at 622-9891 or = tigger64(AT)aol.com for more information. Mickey Scilingo Parish, NY mickey.scilingo(AT)gte.net ----------------------------------------------------------------------- For help contact the listowner: jody(AT)kidwings.com Searchable archives: http://www.borg.com/~svcselem/kirkland/oneidabirds All postings to Oneidabirds are protected under copyright law. -----------------------------------------------------------------------
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