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UMichBirders for Sunday, March 9, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 [birders] Sandhills  Marie Schatz   8:33am 
 [birders] RE:Book: Bringing Nature Home  Roger Kuhlman   9:45am 
 [birders] RE:Book: Bringing Nature Home  Richard Neubig  11:13am 
 [birders] Red Knot news  Andreas Kanon  10:51am 
 [birders] OT: Need crabapple tree info  Parula100(AT)aol.com  12:49pm 
 [birders] Injured owl  Krissi Harris   10:08am 
 [birders] Birds of late  Ed Lewandowski   10:35am 
 [birders] Washtenaw Waterfowl Trip Report  AJ Johnson   12:28pm 
 [birders] Re: birders digest: March 08, 2008  Coolsweetjoy(AT)aol.com  3:31pm 
 [birders] Lesser Black-backed Gull at Ford Lake   3:59pm 
 [birders] Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile  Jerry Jourdan  1:19pm 
 [birders] Re: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile  Parula100(AT)aol.com  4:34pm 
 [birders] Re: OT: Need crabapple tree info  John Lowry   5:31pm 
 [birders] Imm. Bald Eagle, Mill Ck X Jackson Rd, Washtenaw Co. 3/9  SparksJackson(AT)aol.co  5:59pm 
 [birders] Re: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile  Julie Craves   5:15pm 
 [birders] RE: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile  makielb@excite.com  6:51pm 
 [birders] Pick a hobby...  j fisher  8:20pm 
 [birders] Re: OT: Need crabapple tree info  Dan Sparks-Jackson  9:54pm 
 [birders] Proud Lake Pileated Woodpeckers  j fisher  9:58pm 
 [birders] The Pileated Woodpeckers of Macomb and Southern St. Clair Counties  Alan Ryff   8:57pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Sandhills From: Marie Schatz <marys1000(AT)woh.rr.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 8:33am --Apple-Mail-1--874452960 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed I'll jump in and comment on the "hearing". I heard and then saw the Sandhills migration near the Rowe San, standing on a bridge in the morning. I arrived when still dark, the noise is incredible! I remember that more than seeing the birds. It was like the roar of a football game after a touchdown only continuous. You read about the migration numbers but no one ever seems to mention the shear loudness. Pretty incredible. I don't remember noticing any size differences between the ones I used to go see near Battle Creek MI and the ones in Nebraska but I wasn't looking for it either. Mary, currently Fairborn OH On Mar 9, 2008, at 12:05 AM, about birding/birdwatching in southeast Michigan and vicinity digest wrote: > When I visited the Rowe Audubon Sanctuary > along the Platte River in Nebraska last March to see > (and hear!) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --Apple-Mail-1--874452960 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-1--874452960--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE:Book: Bringing Nature Home From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 9:45am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I think the point to appreciate is that native insects evolved with native = plants and plant families in native ecosystems and natural habitats. Many n= ative insects will not do well with only the native plants remaining but na= tive ecosystems and natural habitats gone. For instance planting lots of Wi= ld Lupine in your backyard or even in a 10 or 50 acre isolated 'nature rese= rve' is going to do nothing or virtually nothing to save the Karner' Blue b= utterfly which uses Wild Lupine as its larval hostplant. =20 If you are really concerned about native insects, you have to preserve exis= ting natural habitats and native ecosystems and add much more land to them.= That can only be done by reducing human overpopulation in this country and= the rest of the World and the excessive demand on natural resources that h= uman overpopulation creates. =20 A small point: non-native plants are not always bad for native insects. The= re are two prominent counter-examples to proposition in southeast Michigan-= -Wild Indigo Duskywing and the Harvester butterfly. Both are doing well on = non-native plants in our area--Crowned Vetch for the duskywing and Black Eu= ropean Alder for the Harvester. In fact without these plants in our area bo= th butterflies would be really rare and subject to local extirpation.=20 =20 Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor, Michigan 3/9/2008 =20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D Rick wrote: =20 There's a NY Times article about a relatively new book that my wife Laura h= asenjoyed. It is called Bringing Nature Home and is about the role of nativ= eplants. Some of the ideas are pretty interesting - that native insects and= plants co-evolved so most exotics can't be decent food sources for nativein= sects. The author is an entymologist so he has lots of examples. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/garden/06garden.html The point in the NY Times article is that feeding the insects is the best w= ay to feed the birds!Rick Rick Neubig=20 =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE:Book: Bringing Nature Home From: "Richard Neubig" <rneubig(AT)med.umich.edu> Date: 9 Mar 2008 11:13am Roger, You are right that eliminating habitat is probably the biggest environmental problem. Also, population control and controlling the land footprint of all the people we do have are going to be essential to maintaining those natural habitats. In the context of what damage we have already done getting homeowners to include native plantings - and getting rid of the gazillion acres of turfgrass in favor of more diverse native plant mixes - will help. You are also right that one backyard won't do it but if there were several thousand it would make a difference. I do know personally that our little 1/4 acre prairie planting in Scio Hills had an incredible diversity of bees - and some butterflies - that weren't there before we nuked the lawn. Rick Rick Neubig RNeubig(AT)umich.edu Department of Pharmacology University of Michigan Phone (734) 764-8165 FAX (734) 763-4450 Personal web site http://warbler.med.umich.edu Center for Chemical Genomics http://lsi.umich.edu/ccg >>> Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> 3/9/2008 9:45 AM >>> I think the point to appreciate is that native insects evolved with native plants and plant families in native ecosystems and natural habitats. Many native insects will not do well with only the native plants remaining but native ecosystems and natural habitats gone. For instance planting lots of Wild Lupine in your backyard or even in a 10 or 50 acre isolated 'nature reserve' is going to do nothing or virtually nothing to save the Karner' Blue butterfly which uses Wild Lupine as its larval hostplant. If you are really concerned about native insects, you have to preserve existing natural habitats and native ecosystems and add much more land to them. That can only be done by reducing human overpopulation in this country and the rest of the World and the excessive demand on natural resources that human overpopulation creates. A small point: non-native plants are not always bad for native insects. There are two prominent counter-examples to proposition in southeast Michigan--Wild Indigo Duskywing and the Harvester butterfly. Both are doing well on non-native plants in our area--Crowned Vetch for the duskywing and Black European Alder for the Harvester. In fact without these plants in our area both butterflies would be really rare and subject to local extirpation. Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor, Michigan 3/9/2008 ================================================================== Rick wrote: There's a NY Times article about a relatively new book that my wife Laura hasenjoyed. It is called Bringing Nature Home and is about the role of nativeplants. Some of the ideas are pretty interesting - that native insects andplants co-evolved so most exotics can't be decent food sources for nativeinsects. The author is an entymologist so he has lots of examples. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/06/garden/06garden.html The point in the NY Times article is that feeding the insects is the best way to feed the birds!Rick Rick Neubig =================================================================== --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ********************************************************** Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Red Knot news From: "Andreas Kanon" <andreas.kanon(AT)gmail.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 10:51am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hi everyone, Here is a glimmer of good news for the Red Knot, http://www.courierpostonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008803080352 The legislators are set to meet tomorrow and vote on banning harvesting horse shoe crabs for an undetermined time to come. Lets hope that they vote for banning it so we don't have to go through the same drama next year again. On a side note, send some snow over here in New York, all we get is rain!!!! :) http://www.kanonphoto.com/linkedphotos/wet.jpg /Andreas -- www.kanonphoto.com --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] OT: Need crabapple tree info From: Parula100(AT)aol.com Date: 9 Mar 2008 12:49pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- After seeing Bohemian Waxwings and Pine Grosbeaks devouring crabapple berries, I'd like to add a crabapple tree that keeps its fruit through the winter to my yard. Does anyone know which varieties have been attracting all these birds? I'd especially like to know which species of crabapple is in Tawas City--the birds were going crazy over its fruit. The bark was quite distinctive--very flaky and multi-colored, almost like Sycamore bark. Any tree experts out there? Darlene Friedman Novi **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Injured owl From: Krissi Harris <khiceland(AT)prodigy.net> Date: 9 Mar 2008 10:08am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Thanks to all who responded to my injured owl. I have programmed all the numbers into my phone. Let's hope I never need them. Unfortunately as you probably know, from Sherri Smith's post, he had a broken back and had to be put down. It is sad. I was really hoping he was going to be alright. Kris --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Birds of late From: Ed Lewandowski <scotchman12year(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 10:35am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hello birders, 6 Mar- Horned Grebe found on S. River Rd. on the way back from Metrobeach Usual suspects at Sunshine Point. 7 Mar- Macomb Co. After meeting up with Alan Ryff and Marcia Kubacki we did not find the Bohemians at Reid Rd, but thank for the help to the Taft location. There was unfortunately, a plastic bag in the berry tree mostly likely keeping things away. Did find however, the Taft Rd. Bohemian very easily. Boys and Girls this is the spot for birds! I hadn't seen much of anything during the drive but from the top of the hill on Taft, there was no question in mind of finding the Bohemian with all the activity around that tree. What a nice tree! Just dripping with fat apples and birds loving it up. 8 Mar- Craig Gough's place in the area has been host to a nice group of 13-15 Common Redpolls during the cold days and throughout parts of the winter. He has a Flicker there from the winter also. Great feeder set up. Happy Birding Ed Lewandowski Auburn Hills --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Washtenaw Waterfowl Trip Report From: AJ Johnson <andysj531(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 12:28pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Our freezing Tour de Washten=E1u, led by the fabulous DeaArmstrong and Cath= y Carroll on Sunday, March 9th, began at LittleLake, off Jackson Rd. The s= mall lake provided great close-ups of manyspecies, including Redheads, Blac= k Ducks, Bufflehead, Wigeons, and a loneSandhill Crane, for everyone in the= group of 15 members. We proceeded along Huron River Drive, pickingup Wood= Ducks and Trumpeter and Mute Swans. At Foster Bridge, Dea found a single = HornedGrebe, which was a lifer for many, and enjoyed by all. Also along th= e river were our only Goldeneyesfor the day, as well as Ruddy Ducks, Lesser= Scaup, and Common Mergansers. We made our final stop at West BellevilleLa= ke, and it made for quite a good finale. =0AWe spotted our last target bird= for the day, a pair of beautifulGadwalls, as well as our only Pied-billed = Grebes, and enjoyed four BaldEagles, including one magnificent adult. =0ABe= fore leaving, we had great opportunities to study the Scaup, andfinally det= ermined that we had indeed seen Scaup Sp. All in all, it was a great day, = with 34species, and only half the number of degrees Fahrenheit. =0A=0A=0A-= Andy Johnson=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A _______________________________________= _____________________________________________=0ABe a better friend, newshou= nd, and =0Aknow-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile.yaho= o.com/;_ylt=3DAhu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ =0A --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: birders digest: March 08, 2008 From: Coolsweetjoy(AT)aol.com Date: 9 Mar 2008 3:31pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Allen ~ Thank you for posting a link for local wildlife rehabilitators by county. I was worried when I had a red-bellied woodpecker fly into my front window. I had no idea what to do or whom to contact. Luckily the bird was stunned and flew off after about 15 minutes. Joy Barron Clinton Twp **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Lesser Black-backed Gull at Ford Lake From: <Bob.Arthurs(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 9 Mar 2008 3:59pm I went to Ford Lake again today looking for a Great Black-backed Gull. I found what may be an immature one but I'm just not sure. However I was pleased to find an adult Lesser Black-backed Gull. I parked at the Grove Street lot since the path down from the Whittaker Road lot (aka North Bay Park) is usually treacherous this time of year. There was a group of gulls reasonably near the Grove Street end with the Lesser Black-backed among them. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile From: "Jerry Jourdan" <jourdaj(AT)mail2world.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 1:19pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Birders, Ann Smith called and asked me to forward this message. A pair of PINE WARBERS have been feeding at a suet feeder on Grosse Ile all afternoon. The feeder is located at a residence along Bayview Rd near the Bayview Yacht Club. She was asking whether these birds are possibly an early record for this area? Julie - any comment? Ann will follow-up w/ more details when she gets home. Thanks, Jerry Jourdan Click here for free information on starting a business from your home. <http://www.relevantads.biz/fc/Ioyw36XHiGiczg1pDzcFg7nI2Oo0qORYP4YQIOR7n RORFn4690hHwR/> <span id=m2wTl><p><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" size="2" style="font-size:13.5px">_______________________________________________________________<BR>Get the Free email that has everyone talking at <a href=http://www.mail2world.com target=new>http://www.mail2world.com</a><br> <font color=#999999>Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More!</font></font></span> --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile From: Parula100(AT)aol.com Date: 9 Mar 2008 4:34pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 3/9/2008 4:21:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, jourdaj(AT)mail2world.com writes: Ann Smith called and asked me to forward this message. A pair of PINE WARBERS have been feeding at a suet feeder on Grosse Ile all afternoon. The feeder is located at a residence along Bayview Rd near the Bayview Yacht Club. She was asking whether these birds are possibly an early record for this area? Julie - any comment? Ann will follow-up w/ more details when she gets home. Thanks, Jerry Jourdan Jerry, A Pine Warbler was seen at Oak Openings in Ohio on March 5. I don't know if these sightings are early records, or perhaps overwintering birds. Darlene Friedman Novi **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: OT: Need crabapple tree info From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org> Date: 9 Mar 2008 5:31pm --Apple-Mail-1--842195985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Darlene and all, I would love to know about this as well and I'll post a question to the Wild Ones list. I carefully watched a handful of Cedar waxwings and robins as they fed in the junipers in our backyard and then came in for a drink in the pond. Nothing beyond the two species although I wasn't disappointed to watch them bathe and eat! john Lowry hamburg twp On Mar 9, 2008, at 12:49 PM, Parula100(AT)aol.com wrote: > After seeing Bohemian Waxwings and Pine Grosbeaks devouring > crabapple berries, I'd like to add a crabapple tree that keeps its > fruit through the winter to my yard. Does anyone know which > varieties have been attracting all these birds? I'd especially like > to know which species of crabapple is in Tawas City--the birds were > going crazy over its fruit. The bark was quite distinctive--very > flaky and multi-colored, almost like Sycamore bark. Any tree > experts out there? > > Darlene Friedman > Novi > > > > It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms and advice on AOL Money & Finance. > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/ > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --Apple-Mail-1--842195985 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-1--842195985--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Imm. Bald Eagle, Mill Ck X Jackson Rd, Washtenaw Co. 3/9 From: SparksJackson(AT)aol.com Date: 9 Mar 2008 5:59pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I was pleasantly surprised this afternoon by a patch-work-plumaged immature Bald Eagle in flight over Mill Creek where it crosses Jackson Road between Parker and Steinbach. There is a pond on the south side of Jackson Road which attracts goodly numbers of geese. I was in the process of pulling onto the eastbound shoulder of Jackson Road to see if the pond had any goodies when the eagle flew northbound overhead. Then I pulled into my workplace east of the creek and was able to relocate the bird, again in flight heading south and then west away from the creek. Species #113 for the nursery. Dan S-J **************It's Tax Time! Get tips, forms, and advice on AOL Money & Finance. (http://money.aol.com/tax?NCID=aolprf00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 9 Mar 2008 5:15pm Dearborn's earliest Pine Warbler was on 8 April, but we also have a winter record from January. This species is certainly not unheard of in winter -- especially if there are pines around, and Dearborn is a bit lacking. If there is anywhere in Wayne County I'd expect them, it would be Grosse Ile. Westcroft Gardens is one of the best places in the area to find pine-loving species. If someone mentions this to Walt Pawloski, he may well have some records of winter Pine Warblers there. Jerry Jourdan wrote: > Birders, > > Ann Smith called and asked me to forward this message. A pair of PINE > WARBERS have been feeding at a suet feeder on Grosse Ile all afternoon. > The feeder is located at a residence along Bayview Rd near the Bayview > Yacht Club. > > She was asking whether these birds are possibly an early record for this > area? Julie - any comment? > > Ann will follow-up w/ more details when she gets home. > > Thanks, > > Jerry Jourdan > > > Click here for free information on starting a business from your home. > <http://www.relevantads.biz/fc/Ioyw36XHiGiczg1pDzcFg7nI2Oo0qORYP4YQIOR7nRORFn4690hHwR/> > > _______________________________________________________________ > Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com > Unlimited Email Storage ? POP3 ? Calendar ? SMS ? Translator ? Much More! > -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Pine Warblers on Grosse Ile From: "makielb(AT)excite.com" <makielb@excite.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 6:51pm Jerry: March records in Washtenaw County are neither rare nor expected, they're rather irregular. I think that these (the Washtenaw sightings, at least) are early arrivals. All of the earliest sightings are from extensive pine stands. Regards, Mike _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Pick a hobby... From: "j fisher" <biggrinnell(AT)gmail.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 8:20pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- My first Turkey Vulture; Sharp Shinned Hawk, Northern Shrike, Ruby Crowned Kinglet, Wood Duck, Common Merganser, Common Goldeneye, Trumpeter Swan, Horned Grebe, Pied Billed Grebe, Red Tail Hawk, Kestrel, Northern Harrier were had at Barton Nature area, Barton Dam, Huron River drive, and along the river up around Hudson Mills. There were way more, but the birds were all incidental...I didnt even have or use my binoculars, instead opted for a useless fishing rod.... Its all about getting that fresh air and sunshine. The rest is just a bonus... Love Jeff --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: OT: Need crabapple tree info From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 9:54pm While I don't have any specific variety information regarding the crabapples being eaten by Bohemian Waxwings and Pine Grosbeaks in Lower Michigan this winter, poking around my references two cultivars are cited as particularly well suited to landscaping for birds: 'Red Splendor' and 'Profusion'. While I am familiar with 'Profusion' (I've sold that old standby for years), 'Red Splendor' seems to be the gold-standard for birds. Sadly, it looks like not many wholesale growers have kept 'Red Splendor' in their stock. There are more than 800 varieties of crabapple, so between disease susceptibility problems (fireblight, apple scab, cedar/apple rust) and the never-ending introduction of newer "improved" varieties, many older varieties have fallen out of popular propagation. I intend to head back up to Dow Gardens to take the family to the conservatory's butterfly exhibit (its a cozy little conservatory, so I imagine it should be a great lepidopteran show), I will try to get the cultivar information from the crabapples where I saw Bohemians Waxwings last month. If successful, I will post that information when I have it. Some enterprising agricultural school should really make a project of this topic. Dan S-J --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Proud Lake Pileated Woodpeckers From: "j fisher" <biggrinnell(AT)gmail.com> Date: 9 Mar 2008 9:58pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- While anyone familiar with Allen and Karl's synopsis of the area may not be suprised, others may benefit. There are two "gimme" spots I know of for "local" Pileated. One being Proud Lake Rec Area; Specifically on the green or "Ecology" trail and also seen frequently on the "river trail". The Ecology trail has an active cavity, where I hope to see some nesting activity soon. One very obvious Black Cherry bears fresh testimony to the bird's presence on the River trail. Hike due east from the parking lot trail head off of Wixom Road. Upon an intersection with the north -south trails, and the Red Pine Plantation, go north, following the edge of the pines towards the river... Soon you will arrive at a group camp site, and you will see benches surrounding a fire pit, this all downhill from many "lodge" type buildings. Turn around, and retrace your steps once you find that fire pit spot. The Black Cherry is riddled with holes, and the pile of fresh woodchips shows proof, and smells nice too. It should be within 100 feet, on the north side of the trail... Never really tried to succinctly map it out, so good luck. Sit quietly by the river, or at the camp fire site, in the am, and you will be rewarded. The other reliable site is the Waterloo Rec Area. Several short trails, especially the Bog trail, accessable from the Gerald Eddy Discovery Center, are great walks for spotting the Pileated, and poss. Barred and Great Horned Owls, too. Hope you enjoy the wonderful out of doors. Love, Jeff --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] The Pileated Woodpeckers of Macomb and Southern St. Clair Counties From: Alan Ryff <alryff(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 9 Mar 2008 8:57pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I read with interest Russell Emmons view about recent Pileated Woodpecker sightings in southern St. Clair County. The Pileated Woodpecker is the source of passion within me. The world comes to a standstill when I see one. Therefore, I feel compelled to give my historical view about our local Pileateds. I rode my bike the four miles to the J. L. Hudson Department Store at the Eastland Shopping Center in 1957, the year that it opened, and for the first time in my life, I entered a book store. I wasted no time and started looking at bird books. I had never seen the likes of a field guide. I opened a Peterson and went straight to the woodpecker plate. And there it was at the center of the plate, the bird of birds, within a ring of woodpeckers of lesser pedigree. Yes, I recognized royalty. In those days the Flicker, the Downy, and the Red-headed were among the familiar backyard birds of St. Clair Shores. But this woodpecker was something else. I was instantly possessed. I just had to see this bird. Little did I know that my obsession was going to be lifelong. Being just a kid, I innocently expected to find a Pileated in one of the remaining woodlots of St. Clair Shores. After several years of fruitless searching, I bowed to the inevitable: this was going to be a bird of "Up North," a bird of the real woods, the kind of woods you can get lost in. (My first encounter was to be with a pair on the nest in Cheboygan County, but that is another story.) For a while my Pileated Woodpecker experiences were limited to the St. Clair Shores library. I would open an old obsolete tome, Birds of America, and study a magnificent painting of a pair of Pileateds in courtship. Fuertes, the genius bird artist, had captured the vibrant energy of their heads and the majestic flash of their outstretched wings. This painting still haunts my eyes. But I was restless. Why do you have to wait for a chance to go Up North? Luckily, I had the support of three seasoned naturalists. I went to Thelma Sonnenberg, a lifetime resident of Mt. Clemens. She was one of the three founders of the Michigan Nature Association. (Initially known as the Macomb Nature Association.) She was old enough to be my grandmother. "Thelma, where are the nearest Pileateds?" She told me. So I hitch-hiked up Gratiot Avenue to the Belle River bridge in St. Clair County and started walking downstream on river ice until I could see the big white pines. Then I knew I was on McGary's Farm. When I encountered Mr. McGary, he was hauling some big oak logs up a slope with a team of horses. He was easily in his seventies. It turned out that Thelma and McGary knew each other for quite some time. He said that ever since he was a kid he saw Pileateds in the Belle River bottom. He gave me permission to wander his land whenever I wished. And I did. His property had beautiful timber. The feeding holes and ensuing wood chips on top of the fresh snow were evident. But, to actually see the birds--that was easier said than done. It took a little more than one year. These birds were shy. In February 1964 I told Alice Kelley that Pileateds are still in the Belle River bottom. She was the second of the three seasoned naturalists who took an interest in me as a kid bird watcher. Alice introduced me to the world of bird-book dealers, the history of bird art, the accurate taking of field notes, bird banding, and the Cranbrook Institute of Science with its eminent naturalist Walter Nickell. Alice was one of the authors of Birds of the Detroit-Windsor Area: A Ten-Year Survey (1963). She had incorporated into this work Thelma's 1953 Pileated sightings of Columbus Twp, St. Clair County. Evidently, Alice told some birders from Ann Arbor about my sightings. Consequently I guided them into the Belle River bottom and they saw a Pileated Woodpecker. It turned out to be a life bird for one of them. (I was amazed. There actually were university people who had never seen a Pileated Woodpecker? Something was wrong. Higher education could do better than that.) My sightings are the basis for Alice's continuing inclusion of Columbus Twp, St. Clair County, in her update: Birds of Southeastern Michigan and Southwestern Ontario (1978). Thereafter I have seen Pileated Woodpecker in Columbus Township in sections 20, 21, 22, 27, 28 and 33. My most recent sightings in that general area were on 10 December 2005 in sections 20 and 21, as well as on 21 December 2006 in section 2 of adjoining Casco Township. (I no longer roam this area like I used to.) There is a story behind the Pileated Woodpeckers of New Baltimore, Macomb County, which brings me to the third naturalist mentor of my youth--my Uncle Clarence. He knew nature. He grew up at the tail end of an era that belonged to Ernest Thompson Seton, not to Peterson. He was at his best at tracking, trapping, fishing, and hunting. His father grew up in the 1880's and was the last of the big market hunters who brought in the cans, bluebills, redheads and butterballs. He took them down to the rich-man's restaurants in Detroit. The family, on the other hand, they had to put up with the fishy-taste of sauteed saw-bills. (Back then, like today, money was important.) In my uncle's world there also was high art--the carving of duck decoys--as well as the carving of any other kind of bird. And yes, my Uncle Clarence had firsthand knowledge of many of our birds. Around 1966, he moved to Elsey Street on Lake St. Clair in New Baltimore, about one-half mile from the St. Clair County line. Whenever he wanted to wander through good woods, he just walked up the street and across State Highway 29. In 1968 he gave me the good news, "There are Pileated Woodpeckers in the woods." It did not take him long to show me one. And this was our little secret to enjoy: the New Baltimore Pileateds. Sometime around 1950, Bertha Daubendiek, a close friend of Thelma and a co-founder of the Michigan Nature Association started the Anchor Bay Christmas Bird Count. After Bertha and Thelma had switched from bird-watching to habitat preservation, the Christmas count died. That was too bad. It is one of the top two or three counts in our state. Then along came Martin Blagdurn in 1977. He revived the count. He asked me to help out on a precount survey. Well, I knew that competitive Martin wanted every species that he could get. So, on December 3, I took him on a walk about tour through the New Baltimore woods and the rest became Pileated history. That is how the word got out about the Pileated Woodpeckers of New Baltimore. One of my best Pileated Woodpecker finds in Macomb County was the bird that spent December 1973 in the woods along Metropoltan Parkway just before Metropolitan Beach Metropark. My other Macomb County records are for Armada, Bruce, Richmond and Washington Townships, spanning from the late 60's to the present. Yes, they are around, but they seem to prefer privacy. The best way to enter their strongholds is by canoe or on the ice in winter. Alan Ryff --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----

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