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Subject: [birders] Re: nighthawks and woodcocks
From: "Tony Unwin" <niwnu(AT)aol.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 9:10am
take teriyaki sauce - it covers some of the gamey taste
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Subject: [birders] Re: [se-mi-birdlist] Long-tailed Duck at Barton
Pond
From: "Ray Stocking" <rstocking(AT)gmail.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 9:31am
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The Long-tailed Duck was still there at sunrise this morning. Look for the
volleyball out on the ice, not far from there . Be patient! She will come
up for air eventually.
Ray
On Fri, Mar 14, 2008 at 5:49 PM, <joe4birds(AT)2020comm.net> wrote:
> Viewed the Long-tailed Duck this afternoon (Mar 14) at 2:30 pm for twenty
> minutes or so. It was on Barton Pond at midway point of open water. I
> parked at the last turnout and walked straight in, it was exactly opposite
> the white soccer ball that is out on the ice. It always stayed by its self
> and was very active diving underwater.
>
>
>
> G'day
>
> Joe Prochaska
>
> Dexter
>
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> *From: *"Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net>
> *To: *birders(AT)umich.edu
> *CC: *birders(AT)umich.edu
> *Sent: *3/14/2008 2:11:03 PM
> *Subject: *[birders] Re: [se-mi-birdlist] Long-tailed Duck at Barton Pond
>
> A few birders looked this morning for the Long-tailed Duck. To my
> knowledge no one found it.
>
> Bruce
>
> Date sent: Thu, 13 Mar 2008 20:05:25 -0400
> From: "Richard Neubig"
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Copies to:
> Subject: [birders] Re: [se-mi-birdlist] Long-tailed Duck at Barton Pond
> Send reply to: "Richard Neubig"
>
> > It was still at the same location at 6 PM Thursday evening. It spends
> the
> > great majority of its time underwater. Be patient.
> >
> > The red-breasted merg pair was there as well.
> > Rick
> >
> > Rick Neubig RNeubig(AT)umich.edu
> > Department of Pharmacology University of Michigan
> > Phone (734) 764-8165
> > FAX (734) 763-4450
> >
> > Personal web site
> > http://warbler.med.umich.edu
> >
> > Center for Chemical Genomics
> > http://lsi.umich.edu/ccg
> >
> >
> > >>> Bob Arthurs 3/13/2008 10:04 AM >>>
>
> > I saw a Long-tailed Duck at the west most pulloff of Barton Pond this
> > morning. I had heard a second-hand report of it last night but was not
> > able to find it. This morning as I pulled in I saw what looked like a
> > Long-tailed Duck from my car. I finished parking and got out the scope
> > and did not see it. As I stood there another person drove up and said he
> > had seen it earlier. The duck resurfaced and I was able to see it in the
> > scope.
> >
> > There is also open water visible from the east most pulloff. Among the
> > other ducks in that water was my first Green-winged Teal of the year.
> >
> > Bob Arthurs
> >
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Subject: [birders] OT: Lepidopts at Nan Weston NP, Washtenaw Co.
3/14
From: sparksjackson(AT)aol.com
Date: 15 Mar 2008 10:30am
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I took a late afternoon stroll down to the River Raisin at the Nature
Conservancy's Nan Weston Nature Preserve yesterday.? Aside from a flock of wild
Turkeys at the river, and a plethora of Downy & Red-bellied Woodpeckers in the
woods, all was quiet.? I was surprised to see about a dozen small (<1/2") tan
moths fluttering in the warming sunshine near the dedication boulder.? Not
exactly butterflies, but hints of things to come.
Earlier in the day, I heard a Brown Creeper in the Norway Spruce grove at
Washtenaw NAPP's Brauer Preserve off of Parker Road just south of Waters Road.?
I'm guessing, while small, this evergreen grove provides an interesting
micro-habitat for migrants, and maybe even the odd owl.? The creeper certainly
seemed appropriate calling from out of its gloom.
Dan S-J
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Subject: [birders] Birding Buddies?
From: "Carilee Moran" <colemich(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 11:21am
I am but a humble birder, with no pretensions to enormous life lists or
Olympic-style bird chasing. I am pretty good with bird songs, to which I
have devoted a lot of effort, and not as good at some other things. I
wonder if there is anyone out there who is as tired of birding alone as I
am, and who would be interested in occasionally combining forces for either
a local expedition or day trips a bit farther afield. I find organized
field trips to usually be a little too much company. Weekends or evenings
are the times that I can get out, since I still work.
Carilee Moran
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Subject: [birders] RE: hamburg twp
From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 1:14pm
Cendra,
Good question! I'm not sure, but It wouldn't shock me in a lighted
city area. I forgot it was that late though. If I had to bet, I'd
say you heard a woodcock. Timing is perfect for them, and if you
didn't find an exact match for your memory of the sound, that doesn't
mean it wasn't a slightly aberrant individual. Most birds songs and
calls do vary by region and even individually (as you probably know)
and depending on listening conditions, etc., it would actually be a
little more surprising to hear a call that is an exact match for a
recording. Great book on this topic (bird song) is the one by
Kroodsma. It will really open your eyes (and ears) to variety in
bird song.
So have you satisfied yourself yet? I have to admit there are many
bird sightings (and tons of heard-only birds) that will remain
puzzles for me for the rest of my life. And i have had my share of
embarrassing mis-IDs. My favorite is the green heron that turned
into a western meadowlark once i got a little closer. It would have
been less memorable except that I made our guide stop the car (in the
Arizona grasslands!) and was going to show my nephew Clark what a
great bird I had found. It is now known as the "Meadow-heron"
incident. And just don't even start on Empids...
Best regards,
John Lowry
On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Cendra wrote:
> Do starlings fly and call at night?
>
> Cendra Lynn
> Ann Arbor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lowry [mailto:john(AT)kingbird.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Subject: [birders] hamburg twp
>
> Birders,
>
> Nothing really notable, but killdeer and TV are back. Lot's of
> evening
> roost activity as gulls, ducks and blackbirds fly over looking for
> a safe
> place to spend the night. On the topic of confusing calls, i
> watched a
> single starling yesterday as he alternated between spot-on Red-
> tailed Hawk
> and Eastern Meadowlark song. They are interesting birds. I
> wouldn't be
> shocked if they could do a nighthawk sound!
>
> John Lowry
> Hamburg Twp., Livingston County
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Subject: [birders] New Jersey bans horseshoe crab take
From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 1:15pm
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Some good news!
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Bill Whan <billwhan(AT)COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
> Date: March 15, 2008 1:37:40 PM GMT-04:00
> To: OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
> Subject: [Ohio-birds] New Jersey bans horseshoe crab take
> Reply-To: Bill Whan <billwhan(AT)COLUMBUS.RR.COM>
>
> From yesterday's Atlantic City paper:
> TRENTON - The state Assembly voted 70-6 Thursday evening for a
> moratorium on the harvesting of horseshoe crabs until the red knot
> shorebirds have replenished their population, the Office of
> Legislative
> Services said.
> The bill, sponsored by Assemblymen John McKeon, D-Essex,
> Reed Gusciora,
> D-Mercer, and Douglas Fisher, D-Cumberland, Salem, Gloucester,
> calls for
> a $10,000 fine for the first offense and $25,000 for subsequent
> offenses
> of possession or harvesting of horseshoe crabs. The moratorium will
> stay
> in place until the red knot population increases to 240,000.
> The Senate Environmental Committee passed a separate bill
> Monday.
> Bill Whan
> Columbus
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Subject: [birders] Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St. Clair
From: "Kari Zoellner" <Karizoellner(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 3:29pm
I was out on Harsens Island today collecting specimines of dead waterfowl.
I am very saddened by the sight of these birds. We literally found 100's
of dead birds today mainly consisting of Canvasbacks, we have however
found a handfull of Redheads one Ringneck and one Swan. I have gone to the
local DNR here on the island only to be told that the birds are dying of
starvation. I find this hard to believe considering that there is plenty
of open water now, but yet today we were out in our boat on the South
Channel of Lake St. Clair and amongst the 100's of dead birds there are
Canvasbacks which can barely stand or walk just flailing on the ice dying.
I am at a loss for what to do about this and was wondering if anyone would
be interested in possibly doing a study of these birds. I have collected
quite a few specimines of these dead birds. Maybe they are just starving
to death but what if it is something else. If these birds were starving,
why would they predominantly be Drake Canvasbacks and not Bufflehead or
any of the other divers.
It reminds me of the Shad die off of two years ago. The DNR said that it
was because of a quick change in the water temp, but was later found by
some testing facilities to have been caused by the VHS virus that has been
plaguing our Muskie.
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Subject: [birders] Re: Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St.
Clair
From: Jacques Mersereau <jacmer(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 4:18pm
It is incredibly sad Karl.
I took a trip last fall to the shores of Lake Michigan above
Sleeping Bear dunes and witnessed first hand all the dead loons, ring neck
ducks and Grebes that died of botulism poisoning.
I truly pray that what you report is ONLY starvation and is not botulism
spreading to everything.
JM
On 3/15/08 3:29 PM, "Kari Zoellner" <Karizoellner(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
> I was out on Harsens Island today collecting specimines of dead waterfowl.
> I am very saddened by the sight of these birds. <EDIT>
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Subject: [birders] FW: RE: hamburg twp
From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 5:22pm
Thanks, John,
Since I have the flu, I was only at Meijers on an emergency food trip. Next
week, when I am well, I will wander back out, get a frosty at Wendy's, and
hang out for awhile and see what I hear.
I do know that birds have individual calls. I track "my" robins who return
every year. When (if) he arrives, this will be the second spring for the
son of my previous robin, who was born here some springs before that, and
that robin was hatched here.... I've lived here for 37 years and so have
been able to track who is who. Unfortunately that tracking has brought on a
life-long prohibition of crows in my yard, as one year I watched one come
and destroy all the newly-laid eggs in my robins' nest. There are now
anti-crow spells cast around my house up to above tree-height!
If I hear again what I heard before, I'll report back.
Cendra Lynn
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From: John Lowry [mailto:john(AT)kingbird.org]
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:14 PM
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Cc: birders(AT)umich.edu
Subject: [birders] RE: hamburg twp
Cendra,
Good question! I'm not sure, but It wouldn't shock me in a lighted city
area. I forgot it was that late though. If I had to bet, I'd say you heard
a woodcock. Timing is perfect for them, and if you didn't find an exact
match for your memory of the sound, that doesn't mean it wasn't a slightly
aberrant individual. Most birds songs and calls do vary by region and even
individually (as you probably know) and depending on listening conditions,
etc., it would actually be a little more surprising to hear a call that is
an exact match for a recording. Great book on this topic (bird song) is the
one by Kroodsma. It will really open your eyes (and ears) to variety in
bird song.
So have you satisfied yourself yet? I have to admit there are many bird
sightings (and tons of heard-only birds) that will remain puzzles for me for
the rest of my life. And i have had my share of embarrassing mis-IDs. My
favorite is the green heron that turned into a western meadowlark once i got
a little closer. It would have been less memorable except that I made our
guide stop the car (in the Arizona grasslands!) and was going to show my
nephew Clark what a great bird I had found. It is now known as the
"Meadow-heron"
incident. And just don't even start on Empids...
Best regards,
John Lowry
On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Cendra wrote:
> Do starlings fly and call at night?
>
> Cendra Lynn
> Ann Arbor
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lowry [mailto:john(AT)kingbird.org]
> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:04 PM
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Subject: [birders] hamburg twp
>
> Birders,
>
> Nothing really notable, but killdeer and TV are back. Lot's of
> evening roost activity as gulls, ducks and blackbirds fly over looking
> for a safe place to spend the night. On the topic of confusing calls,
> i watched a single starling yesterday as he alternated between spot-on
> Red- tailed Hawk and Eastern Meadowlark song. They are interesting
> birds. I wouldn't be shocked if they could do a nighthawk sound!
>
> John Lowry
> Hamburg Twp., Livingston County
>
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Subject: [birders] Farmington Hills - Cedar Waxwings
From: Jeanpanyard(AT)aol.com
Date: 15 Mar 2008 5:47pm
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Hi - If you are in the 14 & Farmington area and wish to see Cedars, there is
a small group of 15-20 on the sw corner of 14 and Glenmuer. There are still
a few shrubs w/berries and they were in there checking it out. Glenmuer is
between Farmington & Orchard Lake. You need to go down Glenmuer.
Take care,
Jean
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Subject: [birders] Detroit River waterfowl and longspurs
From: Greg_Norwood(AT)fws.gov
Date: 15 Mar 2008 3:59pm
<font size=3D"2">Hello:<br><br>I spent a few hours just standing at the sou=
th end of Belle Isle today, March 15th. There were some flocks of Aythya mo=
ving high over me into Lake St. Clair and many mergansers while others were=
streaming in from downriver and seeming to land nearby. There's a good con=
gregation of a couple of hundred redhead and canvasback that can be viewed =
nicely from the north fishing pier. While standing there during two differe=
nt occassions, the plaintive calls of a lapland longspur were heard flying =
into Canada. One Bonaparte's gull flew over and was the only one of that sp=
ecies I saw.<br><br>From the east side of the island looking out at Lake St=
. Clair there were a total of 11 white-winged scoters. One unfortunately ha=
d a broken wing evident when a tug got fairly close.<br><br>There is a floc=
k of 10-20 rusty blackbirds behind the nature center and quite a few singin=
g.<br><br>Greg Norwood<br></font>=
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Subject: [birders] Re: Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St.
Clair
From: William McHale <mcbad84(AT)wowway.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 6:21pm
here's a link to article (thursday's det news) regarding lake st clair
ducks.......
http://www.detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2008803130403
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Subject: [birders] Re: Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St.
Clair
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 6:25pm
JM: I truly pray also ONLY starvation. However given the track record of
the various "powers that be" over the years regards these things, especially
nowadays, I often am skeptical. (remember the PBB scandal of the 70s? it was
kept under wraps not only from the public but even from Governor Milliken!
Thanks to a couple of very conscientious and honest Vets, a couple of UP
lawyers, and a few concerned scientists over in the Netherlands it all came
out!)
Well unless one can afford private independent lab testings, one must
give the benefit of the doubt to those in authority!
Russ Emmons, also very concerned, St. Clair county
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jacques Mersereau" <jacmer(AT)umich.edu>
To: <birders(AT)umich.edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 4:18 PM
Subject: [birders] Re: Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St. Clair
> It is incredibly sad Karl.
>
> I took a trip last fall to the shores of Lake Michigan above
> Sleeping Bear dunes and witnessed first hand all the dead loons, ring neck
> ducks and Grebes that died of botulism poisoning.
>
> I truly pray that what you report is ONLY starvation and is not botulism
> spreading to everything.
>
> JM
>
>
> On 3/15/08 3:29 PM, "Kari Zoellner" <Karizoellner(AT)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>> I was out on Harsens Island today collecting specimines of dead
>> waterfowl.
>> I am very saddened by the sight of these birds. <EDIT>
>
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Subject: [birders] Re: FW: RE: hamburg twp
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 6:31pm
Has anyone ever heard a Blue Jay do a perfect imitation of a Red Shouldered
Hawks call? Quite amazing really!
Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
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From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net>
To: <birders(AT)umich.edu>
Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 5:22 PM
Subject: [birders] FW: RE: hamburg twp
>
> Thanks, John,
>
> Since I have the flu, I was only at Meijers on an emergency food trip.
> Next
> week, when I am well, I will wander back out, get a frosty at Wendy's, and
> hang out for awhile and see what I hear.
>
> I do know that birds have individual calls. I track "my" robins who
> return
> every year. When (if) he arrives, this will be the second spring for the
> son of my previous robin, who was born here some springs before that, and
> that robin was hatched here.... I've lived here for 37 years and so have
> been able to track who is who. Unfortunately that tracking has brought on
> a
> life-long prohibition of crows in my yard, as one year I watched one come
> and destroy all the newly-laid eggs in my robins' nest. There are now
> anti-crow spells cast around my house up to above tree-height!
>
> If I hear again what I heard before, I'll report back.
>
> Cendra Lynn
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Lowry [mailto:john(AT)kingbird.org]
> Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2008 1:14 PM
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Cc: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Subject: [birders] RE: hamburg twp
>
> Cendra,
>
> Good question! I'm not sure, but It wouldn't shock me in a lighted city
> area. I forgot it was that late though. If I had to bet, I'd say you
> heard
> a woodcock. Timing is perfect for them, and if you didn't find an exact
> match for your memory of the sound, that doesn't mean it wasn't a slightly
> aberrant individual. Most birds songs and calls do vary by region and
> even
> individually (as you probably know) and depending on listening conditions,
> etc., it would actually be a little more surprising to hear a call that is
> an exact match for a recording. Great book on this topic (bird song) is
> the
> one by Kroodsma. It will really open your eyes (and ears) to variety in
> bird song.
>
> So have you satisfied yourself yet? I have to admit there are many bird
> sightings (and tons of heard-only birds) that will remain puzzles for me
> for
> the rest of my life. And i have had my share of embarrassing mis-IDs. My
> favorite is the green heron that turned into a western meadowlark once i
> got
> a little closer. It would have been less memorable except that I made our
> guide stop the car (in the Arizona grasslands!) and was going to show my
> nephew Clark what a great bird I had found. It is now known as the
> "Meadow-heron"
> incident. And just don't even start on Empids...
>
> Best regards,
>
> John Lowry
>
>
>
> On Mar 14, 2008, at 11:49 PM, Cendra wrote:
>
>> Do starlings fly and call at night?
>>
>> Cendra Lynn
>> Ann Arbor
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: John Lowry [mailto:john(AT)kingbird.org]
>> Sent: Friday, March 14, 2008 3:04 PM
>> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
>> Subject: [birders] hamburg twp
>>
>> Birders,
>>
>> Nothing really notable, but killdeer and TV are back. Lot's of
>> evening roost activity as gulls, ducks and blackbirds fly over looking
>> for a safe place to spend the night. On the topic of confusing calls,
>> i watched a single starling yesterday as he alternated between spot-on
>> Red- tailed Hawk and Eastern Meadowlark song. They are interesting
>> birds. I wouldn't be shocked if they could do a nighthawk sound!
>>
>> John Lowry
>> Hamburg Twp., Livingston County
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Subject: [birders] Fw: duck story
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 6:46pm
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Subject: [birders] Help with Hawk ID
From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 7:05pm
My sister called me from Long Island, NY - she is getting more and more
interested in birds which gives me great joy! She mailed me three
pictures which I have posted to my Grove St. album. Sharp-shinned or
Coopers? It seems to be a juvenile - she said the eye was yellow.
Thanks for any help.
Pat
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Subject: [birders] forgot the link for Hawk pictures
From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 7:06pm
http://www.grovestreet.com/jsp/picview.jsp?album=88208
sorry!
Pat
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Subject: [birders] Barred Owls - Oakland County - Stoney Creek Metro
Park
From: William McHale <mcbad84(AT)wowway.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 7:50pm
Following up to last years Barred Owls sightings, today I went to
Stoney Creek - West Branch Picnic Area to try and relocate Barred owl
in the same area they were found last year.
Great find, not one but found a believed pair of barred owls...I
posted pictures to:
http://www.grovestreet.com/jsp/picview.jsp?album=85728&sort=date_added&ord=desc
willie mchale
st. heights
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Subject: [birders] Re: Dead waterfowl littering the ice on Lake St.
Clair
From: "Tony Unwin" <niwnu(AT)aol.com>
Date: 15 Mar 2008 8:54pm
answer - in my non-professional opinion - Zebra muscles
the zebra muscles are filtering out the algae and seaweed as food for
themselves causing the water to become "cleaner" or less inhabited by the
weeds and algae - therefore causing less food for the ducks - some
freshwater fish are next - being driven into deeper water to become preyed
upon - just my guess though
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