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Subject: [birders] OT: Spring Salamander Migration?
From: "Vincent Ste-Marie" <v_ste.marie(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 19 Mar 2008 8:41am
In the past, Edie Sanchez has graciously shared information about the spring
'migration' of salamanders in our area. I'm probably off on my info, but I
seem to recall it is triggered by a certain number of nights spent with
temps over 40 degrees F. I think hearing Chorus Frogs is also a sign the
temps are right for the salamanders to make their move to the vernal ponds.
If anyone has more info (Edie?) or could correct any errors on my part,
please post and/or reply directly. We've seen many children, including our
own, really enjoy this event in years past and we don't want to miss out
this year.
Vince
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Subject: [birders] Long-tailed Duck still present on Barton Pond, Wed
AM
From: Will Weber <will(AT)journeys-intl.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2008 9:40am
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The sometimes-elusive female long-tailed duck was still on Barton Pond
at 9 am Wednesday morning.
The bird was near the middle of the pond opposite the third road pull
off west of the main Barton Dam parking lot on Huron River Drive.
This is the pull off with a utility pole in the middle. The bird was
toward the dam side of the volley ball "marker" (which is now almost
at the lip of the melting ice).
As a reminder, if you cross the tracks for a better view look both
ways twice. Look once for trains and once for Sheriff's department
patrol cars. If they see you doing it, deputies may take exception to
your belief that it is OK to cross the tracks.
Many scaup, redheads, canvasbacks, American and hooded mergansers,
buffleheads and ring-necked ducks were also present on the pond.
Will Weber
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Subject: [birders] Re: EAB and Pileateds
From: Dave Sing <dsing(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 19 Mar 2008 9:42am
Russell; While it is good that the dead and dying ash trees are being
used by the Pileateds in your area, their attention to these
infested trees is not a viable solution to the EAB problem. The dead
and dying Ashes make good roost trees. I don't know of
any evidence that Pileateds are actually eating the EAB larvae or
adults. But this by no means indicates that this is not actually
happening. Other insects infest the dying ashes as well. In my
limited experience, Pileateds love (adore) Carpenter ants and
also enjoy beetle larvae of various species. IMHO, the EAB seems
impervious to any of our local ecosystems insectivores.
Hopefully, they will burn through the large ashes and decline before
the next batch of young ash reach an EAB vulnerable size
(seems to be about a three inch circumference on the trees at our
farm). Here's hoping.... DBS Chelsea MI
At 02:56 PM 3/18/2008, Russell Emmons wrote:
>My thoughts on all the Pileated sightings in SE MI recently FWIW.
>Seems what I'm hearing around plus seeing on our own property here,
>these Pileateds are definitely attracted to and going after the EAB
>infected or dead Ash trees! Maybe a case of too little too late for
>a somewhat resolution of that problem? Any thoughts or observations
>on this? I have decent photos of the vigorous workings of wood chips
>on these Ash trees from Pileateds if anyones interested plus a few
>of the usual nest type excavations on other tree species.
>
>Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county
>
>
>----- Original Message ----- From: <ddarm(AT)umich.edu>
>To: <birders(AT)umich.edu>
>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:50 AM
>Subject: [birders] Pileated Woodpecker sightings in Washtenaw County
>
>
>>Folks,
>>When you see a Pileated Woodpecker in Washtenaw County,(or "near"
>>Washtenaw County...) would you be so kind as to try and notice the
>>gender and then send me that info as well as an exact location. I
>>try to map this species and I depend on your postings. If you don't
>>want to give out the exact locations on list, I'll probably email
>>you and ask for them!
>>Thanks in advance.
>>Dea
>>
>>****************************************************
>>Deaver D. Armstrong
>>City Ornithologist
>>Natural Area Preservation Division City of Ann Arbor Department
>>Park Operations
>>1831 Traver Road
>>Ann Arbor, MI 48105
>>734-996-3266
>>****************************************************
>>
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Subject: [birders] Anybody need a team member for the One Road
Challenge?
From: "Ken Willard" <missionv19(AT)gmail.com>
Date: 19 Mar 2008 10:41pm
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If anybody needs me, it seems that I'll be able to go with a team for the
challenge. Email me back at MissionV19(AT)Gmail.com and give me more info if
you need me.
Thanks,
Ken
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Subject: [birders] Re: EAB and Pileateds
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Date: 19 Mar 2008 11:25pm
Dave (and all) :
No way did I mean to imply that Pileated presence would be a viable
solution to the EAB infestation. Of course not. The Ash infestation was of
such a magnitude and speed that the few Pileateds around this part of MI or
probably all other Woodpeckers would have likely made little affect even if
any do eat the Borers --which I'm not sure if any do. I'm not sure even if
Ash trees being quite hard unless well rotted are even a prefered tree for
Pileated nest cavitys compared to their usual choices of big pines, Aspen,
Birch. (Noting percentage wise there are far fewer Ash trees in the north
parts of this state where there are many more Pileated Woodpeckers).
Remembering some years back the increase of Red Headed Woodpeckers
utilizing the many diseased/dead American Elms from the Dutch Elm disease
for cavitys/food and then the decline again when the diseased trees were cut
& cleared, I thought with a bit of irony the same type situation may be a
bit of a boone for the Pileateds these days. Time will tell, but surely to a
degree at least, Pileateds are taking back much of their original or
ancestral habitats in this corner of the state. I think in part too from so
many abandoned old family farms that have reverted back to woodlots.
Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Sing" <dsing(AT)umich.edu>
To: <birders(AT)umich.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2008 9:42 AM
Subject: [birders] Re: EAB and Pileateds
> Russell; While it is good that the dead and dying ash trees are being used
> by the Pileateds in your area, their attention to these
> infested trees is not a viable solution to the EAB problem. The dead and
> dying Ashes make good roost trees. I don't know of
> any evidence that Pileateds are actually eating the EAB larvae or adults.
> But this by no means indicates that this is not actually
> happening. Other insects infest the dying ashes as well. In my limited
> experience, Pileateds love (adore) Carpenter ants and
> also enjoy beetle larvae of various species. IMHO, the EAB seems
> impervious to any of our local ecosystems insectivores.
> Hopefully, they will burn through the large ashes and decline before the
> next batch of young ash reach an EAB vulnerable size
> (seems to be about a three inch circumference on the trees at our farm).
> Here's hoping.... DBS Chelsea MI
>
> At 02:56 PM 3/18/2008, Russell Emmons wrote:
>>My thoughts on all the Pileated sightings in SE MI recently FWIW. Seems
>>what I'm hearing around plus seeing on our own property here, these
>>Pileateds are definitely attracted to and going after the EAB infected or
>>dead Ash trees! Maybe a case of too little too late for a somewhat
>>resolution of that problem? Any thoughts or observations on this? I have
>>decent photos of the vigorous workings of wood chips on these Ash trees
>>from Pileateds if anyones interested plus a few of the usual nest type
>>excavations on other tree species.
>>
>>Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county
>>
>>
>>----- Original Message ----- From: <ddarm(AT)umich.edu>
>>To: <birders(AT)umich.edu>
>>Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2008 11:50 AM
>>Subject: [birders] Pileated Woodpecker sightings in Washtenaw County
>>
>>
>>>Folks,
>>>When you see a Pileated Woodpecker in Washtenaw County,(or "near"
>>>Washtenaw County...) would you be so kind as to try and notice the gender
>>>and then send me that info as well as an exact location. I try to map
>>>this species and I depend on your postings. If you don't want to give out
>>>the exact locations on list, I'll probably email you and ask for them!
>>>Thanks in advance.
>>>Dea
>>>
>>>****************************************************
>>>Deaver D. Armstrong
>>>City Ornithologist
>>>Natural Area Preservation Division City of Ann Arbor Department Park
>>>Operations
>>>1831 Traver Road
>>>Ann Arbor, MI 48105
>>>734-996-3266
>>>****************************************************
>>>
>>>---
>>>* birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html
>>>* photo sharing site -
>>>http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html
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>>>line. To
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>>
>>
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