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Subject: [birders] Correction: LT Duck YES
From: Dan Ezekiel <ezekiel(AT)aaps.k12.mi.us>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 7:18am
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Oops. The shovelers were downstream from the FOSTER Bridge.
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> From: Dan Ezekiel <ezekiel(AT)aaps.k12.mi.us>
> Date: March 20, 2008 9:33:38 PM EDT
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Subject: [birders] LT Duck YES
> Reply-To: Dan Ezekiel <ezekiel(AT)aaps.k12.mi.us>
>
> The female long-tailed duck was present at Barton Pond at 6 p.m.
> this evening. She was off the third pulloff west of Barton Dam,
> the last one before the woods block the view of the river. She was
> straight off the pulloff, giving great looks through binoculars,
> about halfway between the near shore and the ice. As a bonus, I
> also saw two male shovelers downstream from Fuller Bridge, as well
> as three horned grebes in various parts of the pond.
> Happy Birding, Dan Ezekiel
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Subject: [birders] Re: Fox sparrow
From: Rosie Lemons <rmlemons(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 8:23am
Well, I had a new bird feeding on the ground under the
sunflower seeds. It was larger than a junco,
significantly rufous colored, heavily streaked breast
with patches on it's cheeks. I picked it out
immediately in the books as a Fox Sparrow but the maps
don't show them here. Are they migrating through?
Rosie Lemons
rmlemons(AT)umich.edu
http://www.photographicimaginings.com
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Subject: [birders] Long-tailed Duck continues, Barton Pond, 3/21AM
From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 11:25am
The female Long-tailed Duck was present, if briefly, around 9AM this
morning at Barton Pond on the Huron River. I first scoped her from the
Huron River Drive pull-out with the telephone pole in the center. She was
with an aggregation of ducks well east of this position, but readily
discernable. I then hopped in my car and headed to the second pullout to
the east (the one with the brown barrel). I managed to relocate the L-t
Duck briefly using my binoculars, but she had disappeared by the time I
had set my scope up again. A winter-plumaged Horned Grebe made for a good
reason to have set up the scope, anyway. I remained for another twenty
minutes, scoping and glassing up and down the impoundment from this
vantage point, but the elusive Ms. Oldsquaw never 'resurfaced'.
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Subject: [birders] Re: Long-tailed Duck continues, Barton Pond,
3/21AM
From: dfblower(AT)umich.edu
Date: 21 Mar 2008 12:10pm
I had the long-tailed duck at the same spot at 10:30 this morning.
Relatively easily seen with binocs, though it would have been nice to
have a scope.
Dan
Quoting Dan Sparks-Jackson <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com>:
> The female Long-tailed Duck was present, if briefly, around 9AM this
> morning at Barton Pond on the Huron River. I first scoped her from the
> Huron River Drive pull-out with the telephone pole in the center. She was
> with an aggregation of ducks well east of this position, but readily
> discernable. I then hopped in my car and headed to the second pullout to
> the east (the one with the brown barrel). I managed to relocate the L-t
> Duck briefly using my binoculars, but she had disappeared by the time I
> had set my scope up again. A winter-plumaged Horned Grebe made for a good
> reason to have set up the scope, anyway. I remained for another twenty
> minutes, scoping and glassing up and down the impoundment from this
> vantage point, but the elusive Ms. Oldsquaw never 'resurfaced'.
>
> Dan S-J
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Subject: [birders] Use of GPS coordinates
From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
Date: 21 Mar 2008 5:14pm
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Birders,
Please take this as a friendly suggestion. I would like to encourage the use of
GPS coordinates when explaining birding locations. It's fairly easy to find
the coordinates and/or create a link from any computer. I'll walk through an
example.
I visited Drayton Plains Nature Center for the first time a couple months ago.
Let's assume I found a Double-striped Thick-Knee (rare in Michigan in the
winter) and wanted to let you all know about it.
- I would go to Google Maps http://maps.google.com
- Scroll around, zoom-in and out until I get close to Drayton Plains Nature
Center. I know where it is because I was just there.
- I double-click on the location so it will be centered on my map (when I
double-click the map it will also zoom in one more level). I've found that a
good "zoom level" is when the maps indicates 1000ft in the lower left of the
map.
- I click the link in the upper right that says "Link to this page". Two
fields will appear.
- I copy from the first field (Paste Link in e-mail or IM) and paste it into
the e-mail and send to you. It looks something like:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.812781,-83.666039&ie=UTF8&ll=42.671393,-83.376102&spn=0.022245,0.039911&z=15
In this example, it still may not be readily obvious where Drayton Plains Nature
Center is so I might add "On Denby Drive just east of the river". It should be
in the center of the map. Note that the GPS coordinates are embedded in the
link. In the above example they are: 42.812781, -83666039
When you get the e-mail you can either just click on the link or copy/paste the
GPS coordinates into Google Maps and the location will appear. You can easily
zoom out to get a perspective on where the location is. You can print To/From
directions right from Google Maps.
You may find this is much quicker than giving street by street directions.
Clearly, this wouldn't be necessary for commonly known locations such as Pt.
Mouillee or Lake Erie Metropark.
Anyway - just a friendly suggestion.
Take care,
Tom Pavlik
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Subject: [birders] 3 Great Blue Herons on Bank of Barton Pond
From: <David.Blank(AT)lyondellbasell.com>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 1:35pm
Shortly before noon, 3 Great Blue Herons were on the bank of Barton Pond
along Barton Shore Drive, a few tenths of a mile before Spring Valley
Road.
David Blank
Barton Hills
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Subject: [birders] Re: Fox sparrow
From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 3:03pm
Yep. It's Fox Sparrow season! Who says sparrows are all LBJs?
On Mar 21, 2008, at 11:23 AM, Rosie Lemons wrote:
> Well, I had a new bird feeding on the ground under the
> sunflower seeds. It was larger than a junco,
> significantly rufous colored, heavily streaked breast
> with patches on it's cheeks. I picked it out
> immediately in the books as a Fox Sparrow but the maps
> don't show them here. Are they migrating through?
>
> Rosie Lemons
>
> rmlemons(AT)umich.edu
>
> http://www.photographicimaginings.com
>
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> -- George Carlin (Sometimes a Little Brain Damage Can Help, 1984)
>
>
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>
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>
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Subject: [birders] Re: Use of GPS coordinates
From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 3:47pm
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Tom: How about if one just gets the coordinates from ones own GPS unit =
while there and passes those on to others?
Seems more and more folks are getting their own units these days and =
some of the later ones are quite elaborate and sophisticated. We've had =
our Garmin "Legend" unit now for several years and are quite happy with =
it except it does eat up the "AA batterys pretty fast. (Got Ni-MH =
rechargeables now)
Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
----- Original Message -----=20
From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net=20
To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:14 PM
Subject: [birders] Use of GPS coordinates
Birders,
Please take this as a friendly suggestion. I would like to encourage =
the use of GPS coordinates when explaining birding locations. It's =
fairly easy to find the coordinates and/or create a link from any =
computer. I'll walk through an example. =20
I visited Drayton Plains Nature Center for the first time a couple =
months ago. Let's assume I found a Double-striped Thick-Knee (rare in =
Michigan in the winter) and wanted to let you all know about it. =20
- I would go to Google Maps http://maps.google.com
- Scroll around, zoom-in and out until I get close to Drayton Plains =
Nature Center. I know where it is because I was just there.
- I double-click on the location so it will be centered on my map =
(when I double-click the map it will also zoom in one more level). I've =
found that a good "zoom level" is when the maps indicates 1000ft in the =
lower left of the map.
- I click the link in the upper right that says "Link to this page". =
Two fields will appear.
- I copy from the first field (Paste Link in e-mail or IM) and paste =
it into the e-mail and send to you. It looks something like:
=
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=3Dq&hl=3Den&geocode=3D&q=3D42.812781,-83.66=
6039&ie=3DUTF8&ll=3D42.671393,-83.376102&spn=3D0.022245,0.039911&z=3D15
In this example, it still may not be readily obvious where Drayton =
Plains Nature Center is so I might add "On Denby Drive just east of the =
river". It should be in the center of the map. Note that the GPS =
coordinates are embedded in the link. In the above example they are: =
42.812781, -83666039
When you get the e-mail you can either just click on the link or =
copy/paste the GPS coordinates into Google Maps and the location will =
appear. You can easily zoom out to get a perspective on where the =
location is. You can print To/From directions right from Google Maps.
You may find this is much quicker than giving street by street =
directions. Clearly, this wouldn't be necessary for commonly known =
locations such as Pt. Mouillee or Lake Erie Metropark.
Anyway - just a friendly suggestion.
Take care,
Tom Pavlik
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Subject: [birders] Lapland Longspurs, Steinbach Rd, Washtenaw Co.
3/21
From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 4:32pm
I was out and about in Freedom Township this afternoon, still seeking my
first-of-year Rusty Blackbird and Eastern Meadowlark. I remembered some
recent posts about large flocks of Lapland Longspurs in other parts of the
county and southern lower Michigan, so I swung through the valley on
Steinbach Road between Textile and Weber Roads. Snow Buntings and
Longspurs have been fairly regular there. I was rewarded by a nice bunch
of Laplands; not quite the "longspur-a-paloozas" others have reported, but
there were conservatively three dozen birds cooperatively close to
(sometimes on) the road. They were actively strolling about the stubble
on the west side of Steinbach, many sporting glamorous near-breeding
plumage. There were nearly equal numbers of Horned Larks in this same
vicinity, so an accurate count was tricky.
My quest for Rusties (3-5) and Meadowlarks (4) was satisfied minutes later
with a great mixed icterid flock on Schneider Road just north of the
barnyard pass-through.
The Freedom Twp. Great-horned Owl is still sitting tight on the
hawk-contested nest I posted back on 2/20. Nine Great Blue Herons were
settling into the rookery along Ellsworth Road between Haab and Schneider
Rds, as of 3/14.
Dan S-J
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Subject: [birders] Re: Use of GPS coordinates
From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
Date: 21 Mar 2008 8:37pm
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Russ,
I couldn't agree more. GPS units have come down a great deal in price and they
are easier than ever to use. I just bought a Garmin Nuvi 200W for my wife for
around $200. Besides the obvious use of getting you around town, you can get
various points of interest (what birder doesn't want to know the closest burger
joint after a hard day of birding?), create a 'favorite' whenever you find that
cool new birding spot and take advantage of the many other practical uses of a
GPS. Current gas prices aside, I think it's easier than ever to justify jumping
into the GPS market.
Tom Pavlik
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From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
Tom: How about if one just gets the coordinates from ones own GPS unit while
there and passes those on to others?
Seems more and more folks are getting their own units these days and some of the
later ones are quite elaborate and sophisticated. We've had our Garmin "Legend"
unit now for several years and are quite happy with it except it does eat up
the "AA batterys pretty fast. (Got Ni-MH rechargeables now)
Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
----- Original Message -----
From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:14 PM
Subject: [birders] Use of GPS coordinates
Birders,
Please take this as a friendly suggestion. I would like to encourage the use of
GPS coordinates when explaining birding locations. It's fairly easy to find
the coordinates and/or create a link from any computer. I'll walk through an
example.
I visited Drayton Plains Nature Center for the first time a couple months ago.
Let's assume I found a Double-striped Thick-Knee (rare in Michigan in the
winter) and wanted to let you all know about it.
- I would go to Google Maps http://maps.google.com
- Scroll around, zoom-in and out until I get close to Drayton Plains Nature
Center. I know where it is because I was just there.
- I double-click on the location so it will be centered on my map (when I
double-click the map it will also zoom in one more level). I've found that a
good "zoom level" is when the maps indicates 1000ft in the lower left of the
map.
- I click the link in the upper right that says "Link to this page". Two
fields will appear.
- I copy from the first field (Paste Link in e-mail or IM) and paste it into
the e-mail and send to you. It looks something like:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.812781,-83.666039&ie=UTF8&ll=42.671393,-83.376102&spn=0.022245,0.039911&z=15
In this example, it still may not be readily obvious where Drayton Plains Nature
Center is so I might add "On Denby Drive just east of the river". It should be
in the center of the map. Note that the GPS coordinates are embedded in the
link. In the above example they are: 42.812781, -83666039
When you get the e-mail you can either just click on the link or copy/paste the
GPS coordinates into Google Maps and the location will appear. You can easily
zoom out to get a perspective on where the location is. You can print To/From
directions right from Google Maps.
You may find this is much quicker than giving street by street directions.
Clearly, this wouldn't be necessary for commonly known locations such as Pt.
Mouillee or Lake Erie Metropark.
Anyway - just a friendly suggestion.
Take care,
Tom Pavlik
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Subject: [birders] Re: Use of GPS coordinates
From: eba(AT)umich.edu
Date: 21 Mar 2008 4:52pm
Tom,
Thanks for the suggestion that the geographical coordinates could be
entered directly into the search bar of Google maps. That makes using GPS
data much easier both for those with GPS units as well as those without.
One question which it conveniently resolves is which format in which to
display the coordinates; degrees including a decimal fraction, degrees &
minutes with a decimal fraction, or degrees, minutes, & seconds with a
decimal fraction -- my GPS unit requires me to select the format that it
will use, and various mapping programs have their own choices, & converting
from one to another format is a nuisance. A test of Google Maps showed
that it was capable of reading at least two formats (decimal degrees, &
degrees, minutes, & decimal seconds). I didn't try degrees & decimal
minutes.
Eric Arnold
--On Friday, March 21, 2008 8:37 PM +0000 pavlik(AT)comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> Russ,
>
> I couldn't agree more. GPS units have come down a great deal in price
> and they are easier than ever to use. I just bought a Garmin Nuvi 200W
> for my wife for around $200. Besides the obvious use of getting you
> around town, you can get various points of interest (what birder doesn't
> want to know the closest burger joint after a hard day of birding?),
> create a 'favorite' whenever you find that cool new birding spot and take
> advantage of the many other practical uses of a GPS. Current gas prices
> aside, I think it's easier than ever to justify jumping into the GPS
> market.
>
> Tom Pavlik
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
>
> Tom: How about if one just gets the coordinates from ones own GPS unit
> while there and passes those on to others?
> Seems more and more folks are getting their own units these days and some
> of the later ones are quite elaborate and sophisticated. We've had our
> Garmin "Legend" unit now for several years and are quite happy with it
> except it does eat up the "AA batterys pretty fast. (Got Ni-MH
> rechargeables now)
>
> Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:14 PM
> Subject: [birders] Use of GPS coordinates
>
>
> Birders,
>
> Please take this as a friendly suggestion. I would like to encourage the
> use of GPS coordinates when explaining birding locations. It's fairly
> easy to find the coordinates and/or create a link from any computer.
> I'll walk through an example.
>
> I visited Drayton Plains Nature Center for the first time a couple months
> ago. Let's assume I found a Double-striped Thick-Knee (rare in Michigan
> in the winter) and wanted to let you all know about it.
>
> - I would go to Google Maps http://maps.google.com
> - Scroll around, zoom-in and out until I get close to Drayton Plains
> Nature Center. I know where it is because I was just there.
> - I double-click on the location so it will be centered on my map (when
> I double-click the map it will also zoom in one more level). I've found
> that a good "zoom level" is when the maps indicates 1000ft in the lower
> left of the map.
> - I click the link in the upper right that says "Link to this page".
> Two fields will appear.
> - I copy from the first field (Paste Link in e-mail or IM) and paste it
> into the e-mail and send to you. It looks something like:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.812781,-83.666039&ie=
> UTF8&ll=42.671393,-83.376102&spn=0.022245,0.039911&z=15
> In this example, it still may not be readily obvious where Drayton Plains
> Nature Center is so I might add "On Denby Drive just east of the river".
> It should be in the center of the map. Note that the GPS coordinates are
> embedded in the link. In the above example they are: 42.812781,
> -83666039
>
> When you get the e-mail you can either just click on the link or
> copy/paste the GPS coordinates into Google Maps and the location will
> appear. You can easily zoom out to get a perspective on where the
> location is. You can print To/From directions right from Google Maps.
>
>
> You may find this is much quicker than giving street by street
> directions. Clearly, this wouldn't be necessary for commonly known
> locations such as Pt. Mouillee or Lake Erie Metropark.
>
> Anyway - just a friendly suggestion.
>
> Take care,
> Tom Pavlik---
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Subject: [birders] birds is birds...
From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 4:54pm
Yesterday while tooling home on Jackson Rd., I realized I was passing the
Little Lake area. So I did two Michigan lefts and drove in. No birds
visible. Weird, I thought, after all the messages about this spot. So I
opened the windows and heard robins and red-winged blackbirds. Then I saw
two ordinary, boring, probably-overwintering Canadian geese on the Western
pond. Although there were sounds of many birds, only one red-winged
blackbird was far enough up for me to see him. The other water-borne
animals were two fisherpeople in a boat at the other end of the Eastern
lake.
Would I see waterfowl? Yes - there were more....DUCKS in a bay to the east,
too far away to identify as anything other than ducks. I don't own
binoculars. My excitement was easily bearable. They looked like
dark-colored ducks. Suddenly there was the loud sound of .... CANADIAN
GEESE! They flew in from the South and circled overhead twice, arguing
vociferously about whether or not to land. In no formation whatever they
circled lower and lower, with the arguing increasing, their back feet
paddling the air. (What? Paddling? Is this a new aeronautical manuever?
Does it slow them down? Speed them up? Put their chairbacks in an upright
position and lock their trays for landing?) At an altitude of about 50'
they headed south, still arguing, the last one barely clearing the tree top,
and headed over the hill in the formation of a stealth bomber, making as
much noise as kids at recess.) Boy! am I ever having a great time in this
freezing wind seeing nothing whatever new, and very little of anything.
Suddenly I forgot all about birds and the chill as I saw a minute, headless,
brown Loch Ness monster chug chuggin out from shore. By the time I got out
of the car it had dived. So I watched the riffles above where it, and soon
it surfaced, chug chugging back to shore. Ah! At last I am in the element I
know: mammals. A beautiful, light brown muskrat, taking a lunch break.
S/he went back into her/his den, and though I waited many minutes, as silent
as my ancestors, on the bank slightly out of the wind, s/he did not feel
inclined to venture back out, undoubtedly having heard my footsteps through
the ground.
So I got back in the car and headed home, figuring that later on all those
birds the rest of this group sees would soon arrive at these little lakes.
The sun was still well up, so I didn't see any nighthawks this time!
Cendra Lynn
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Subject: [birders] Nesting Bald Eagles in the Salline River Valley?
From: "The Farmers" <ajf-jlf(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 5:42pm
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If anyone who birds within the Saline River watershed has information on =
a possible Bald Eagle nest within the SRW, I'd appreciate hearing from =
you off-line. =20
I am a representative to the Saline River Greenway Alliance, and if =
eagles are nesting in the watershed we may be able to build upon public =
appreciation of that fact to help preserve habitat within our greenway. =
Over the past three years I've recorded 72 sightings -- twenty by my =
wife and me and the rest by reliable witnesses. These sightings have =
included adult birds, pairs of adults, and adults flying with immature =
birds. The birds have been seen every month of the year.
I would also appreciate word from anyone who can speak with authority on =
the usual feeding range of Bald Eagle pairs in S. E. Michigan. In the =
absence of confirmed sightings over the span of my record keeping, I am =
inclined to believe that these birds may be the ones that nest at =
Crosswinds Marsh and that they are simply hunting along the Saline =
River.
=20
I'm asking that the feedback be off-list in the interest of protecting =
the birds' precise nesting location if it is in our area.=20
Thanks in advance for any information you may provide.
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Subject: [birders] Clarification on Saline River Eagle nest request
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Date: 21 Mar 2008 6:23pm
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I asked for "off-line" and "off-list" responses. I meant off-list in =
both cases. However, if you prefer to contact me off-line, it's...
John Farmer
13475 Petersburg Road
Milan, MI 48160
or=20
(734) 439-1297
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Subject: [birders] Huron Meadows Metropark
From: "Mag Tait" <mtait(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 6:42pm
At the end of an icy walk around Maltby Lake with little bird activity (I
heard Blue Birds), a brief venture onto the golf course to avoid ice led
to a loud encounter with my first Killdeer of the season. It seemed
determined to let us know we were encroaching on its territory and not
fazed by the icy snow.
At home (Hamburg twp/Winans Lake), I just saw s Carolina Wren at my
feeder. I have heard it singing, but not seen it feeding in a few weeks.
Mag
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Subject: [birders] Re: Use of GPS coordinates
From: "Bob Bethune" <poihths(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 9:16pm
Degrees and decimal minutes seems to work fine.
I entered "43 8.321, -83 8.543" (without the quote marks, of course) and got
good results. That's just a set of coordinates I made up, they don't point
to anything ornithological.
Actually, the first time I entered 43 8.321, -82 8.543 and found myself
getting my feet wet in Lake Huron--not pleasant in this weather!
Fortunately, they were only Google Maps wet, not real-world wet!
Bob Bethune
Freshwater Seas
http://www.freshwaterseas.com
-----Original Message-----
From: eba(AT)umich.edu [mailto:eba(AT)umich.edu]
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 4:52 PM
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Re: Use of GPS coordinates
Tom,
Thanks for the suggestion that the geographical coordinates could be
entered directly into the search bar of Google maps. That makes using GPS
data much easier both for those with GPS units as well as those without.
One question which it conveniently resolves is which format in which to
display the coordinates; degrees including a decimal fraction, degrees &
minutes with a decimal fraction, or degrees, minutes, & seconds with a
decimal fraction -- my GPS unit requires me to select the format that it
will use, and various mapping programs have their own choices, & converting
from one to another format is a nuisance. A test of Google Maps showed
that it was capable of reading at least two formats (decimal degrees, &
degrees, minutes, & decimal seconds). I didn't try degrees & decimal
minutes.
Eric Arnold
--On Friday, March 21, 2008 8:37 PM +0000 pavlik(AT)comcast.net wrote:
>
>
> Russ,
>
> I couldn't agree more. GPS units have come down a great deal in price
> and they are easier than ever to use. I just bought a Garmin Nuvi 200W
> for my wife for around $200. Besides the obvious use of getting you
> around town, you can get various points of interest (what birder doesn't
> want to know the closest burger joint after a hard day of birding?),
> create a 'favorite' whenever you find that cool new birding spot and take
> advantage of the many other practical uses of a GPS. Current gas prices
> aside, I think it's easier than ever to justify jumping into the GPS
> market.
>
> Tom Pavlik
>
> -------------- Original message --------------
> From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net>
>
> Tom: How about if one just gets the coordinates from ones own GPS unit
> while there and passes those on to others?
> Seems more and more folks are getting their own units these days and some
> of the later ones are quite elaborate and sophisticated. We've had our
> Garmin "Legend" unit now for several years and are quite happy with it
> except it does eat up the "AA batterys pretty fast. (Got Ni-MH
> rechargeables now)
>
> Russ Emmons, St. Clair county
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2008 1:14 PM
> Subject: [birders] Use of GPS coordinates
>
>
> Birders,
>
> Please take this as a friendly suggestion. I would like to encourage the
> use of GPS coordinates when explaining birding locations. It's fairly
> easy to find the coordinates and/or create a link from any computer.
> I'll walk through an example.
>
> I visited Drayton Plains Nature Center for the first time a couple months
> ago. Let's assume I found a Double-striped Thick-Knee (rare in Michigan
> in the winter) and wanted to let you all know about it.
>
> - I would go to Google Maps http://maps.google.com
> - Scroll around, zoom-in and out until I get close to Drayton Plains
> Nature Center. I know where it is because I was just there.
> - I double-click on the location so it will be centered on my map (when
> I double-click the map it will also zoom in one more level). I've found
> that a good "zoom level" is when the maps indicates 1000ft in the lower
> left of the map.
> - I click the link in the upper right that says "Link to this page".
> Two fields will appear.
> - I copy from the first field (Paste Link in e-mail or IM) and paste it
> into the e-mail and send to you. It looks something like:
> http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=42.812781,-83.666039&ie=
> UTF8&ll=42.671393,-83.376102&spn=0.022245,0.039911&z=15
> In this example, it still may not be readily obvious where Drayton Plains
> Nature Center is so I might add "On Denby Drive just east of the river".
> It should be in the center of the map. Note that the GPS coordinates are
> embedded in the link. In the above example they are: 42.812781,
> -83666039
>
> When you get the e-mail you can either just click on the link or
> copy/paste the GPS coordinates into Google Maps and the location will
> appear. You can easily zoom out to get a perspective on where the
> location is. You can print To/From directions right from Google Maps.
>
>
> You may find this is much quicker than giving street by street
> directions. Clearly, this wouldn't be necessary for commonly known
> locations such as Pt. Mouillee or Lake Erie Metropark.
>
> Anyway - just a friendly suggestion.
>
> Take care,
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Subject: [birders] Re: birds is birds...
From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 9:54pm
Cendra,
Did I correctly read that you don't own a binocular? I can't think
of any better use for your tax check than to pick up a decent
binocular! (By the way, a pair of binoculars is two of the items - I
have a pair, but I only use one at a time. Semantics...)
Seriously, if there is anyone on this list (therefore presumably a
bird-watcher of some species) who doesn't own (or have full time
access to) a modern, professional grade binocular, I can't stress
enough how much you are missing. You will not learn birds until you
have quality optics. Period. I'm sorry to be so rigid on this, but
a sighted birder is missing most of the birding experience without
quality optics. Everyone has a favorite, and if you start shopping
with a reputable retailer you'll quickly discover that there are so
many models because each person's requirements are different.
Anyway, spring is coming. Treat yourself (and your birding partners)
by upgrading your optics to professional grade. You will never
regret it.
Regards!
John Lowry
PS. If you ever bump into me and want to look through any binocular
I'm carrying, don't be shy! The best way to test binos is in the field.
On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Cendra wrote:
>
> Yesterday while tooling home on Jackson Rd., I realized I was
> passing the
> Little Lake area. So I did two Michigan lefts and drove in. No birds
> visible. Weird, I thought, after all the messages about this
> spot. So I
> opened the windows and heard robins and red-winged blackbirds.
> Then I saw
> two ordinary, boring, probably-overwintering Canadian geese on the
> Western
> pond. Although there were sounds of many birds, only one red-winged
> blackbird was far enough up for me to see him. The other water-borne
> animals were two fisherpeople in a boat at the other end of the
> Eastern
> lake.
>
> Would I see waterfowl? Yes - there were more....DUCKS in a bay to
> the east,
> too far away to identify as anything other than ducks. I don't own
> binoculars. My excitement was easily bearable. They looked like
> dark-colored ducks. Suddenly there was the loud sound of ....
> CANADIAN
> GEESE! They flew in from the South and circled overhead twice,
> arguing
> vociferously about whether or not to land. In no formation
> whatever they
> circled lower and lower, with the arguing increasing, their back feet
> paddling the air. (What? Paddling? Is this a new aeronautical
> manuever?
> Does it slow them down? Speed them up? Put their chairbacks in an
> upright
> position and lock their trays for landing?) At an altitude of
> about 50'
> they headed south, still arguing, the last one barely clearing the
> tree top,
> and headed over the hill in the formation of a stealth bomber,
> making as
> much noise as kids at recess.) Boy! am I ever having a great time
> in this
> freezing wind seeing nothing whatever new, and very little of
> anything.
>
> Suddenly I forgot all about birds and the chill as I saw a minute,
> headless,
> brown Loch Ness monster chug chuggin out from shore. By the time I
> got out
> of the car it had dived. So I watched the riffles above where it,
> and soon
> it surfaced, chug chugging back to shore. Ah! At last I am in the
> element I
> know: mammals. A beautiful, light brown muskrat, taking a lunch
> break.
> S/he went back into her/his den, and though I waited many minutes,
> as silent
> as my ancestors, on the bank slightly out of the wind, s/he did not
> feel
> inclined to venture back out, undoubtedly having heard my footsteps
> through
> the ground.
>
> So I got back in the car and headed home, figuring that later on
> all those
> birds the rest of this group sees would soon arrive at these little
> lakes.
>
> The sun was still well up, so I didn't see any nighthawks this time!
>
> Cendra Lynn
>
>
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Subject: [birders] Re: birds is birds...
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 10:23pm
I've put together a collection of links about birding optics at
http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/links.html#optics
There are no reviews there except for the ones at Better View Desired.
Bruce
Copies to: birders(AT)umich.edu
From: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
Subject: [birders] Re: birds is birds...
Date sent: Fri, 21 Mar 2008 21:54:11 -0400
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Send reply to: John Lowry <john(AT)kingbird.org>
> Cendra,
>
> Did I correctly read that you don't own a binocular? I can't think of
> any better use for your tax check than to pick up a decent binocular!
> (By the way, a pair of binoculars is two of the items - I have a pair,
> but I only use one at a time. Semantics...)
>
> Seriously, if there is anyone on this list (therefore presumably a
> bird-watcher of some species) who doesn't own (or have full time
> access to) a modern, professional grade binocular, I can't stress
> enough how much you are missing. You will not learn birds until you have
> quality optics. Period. I'm sorry to be so rigid on this, but a sighted
> birder is missing most of the birding experience without quality optics.
> Everyone has a favorite, and if you start shopping with a reputable
> retailer you'll quickly discover that there are so many models because
> each person's requirements are different.
>
> Anyway, spring is coming. Treat yourself (and your birding partners) by
> upgrading your optics to professional grade. You will never regret it.
>
> Regards!
>
> John Lowry
>
> PS. If you ever bump into me and want to look through any binocular I'm
> carrying, don't be shy! The best way to test binos is in the field.
>
>
> On Mar 21, 2008, at 4:54 PM, Cendra wrote:
>
> >
> > Yesterday while tooling home on Jackson Rd., I realized I was
> > passing the
> > Little Lake area. So I did two Michigan lefts and drove in. No birds
> > visible. Weird, I thought, after all the messages about this spot. So
> > I opened the windows and heard robins and red-winged blackbirds. Then
> > I saw two ordinary, boring, probably-overwintering Canadian geese on the
> > Western pond. Although there were sounds of many birds, only one
> > red-winged blackbird was far enough up for me to see him. The other
> > water-borne animals were two fisherpeople in a boat at the other end of
> > the Eastern lake.
> >
> > Would I see waterfowl? Yes - there were more....DUCKS in a bay to the
> > east, too far away to identify as anything other than ducks. I don't
> > own binoculars. My excitement was easily bearable. They looked like
> > dark-colored ducks. Suddenly there was the loud sound of .... CANADIAN
> > GEESE! They flew in from the South and circled overhead twice, arguing
> > vociferously about whether or not to land. In no formation whatever
> > they circled lower and lower, with the arguing increasing, their back
> > feet paddling the air. (What? Paddling? Is this a new aeronautical
> > manuever? Does it slow them down? Speed them up? Put their chairbacks
> > in an upright position and lock their trays for landing?) At an
> > altitude of about 50' they headed south, still arguing, the last one
> > barely clearing the tree top, and headed over the hill in the formation
> > of a stealth bomber, making as much noise as kids at recess.) Boy! am
> > I ever having a great time in this freezing wind seeing nothing
> > whatever new, and very little of anything.
> >
> > Suddenly I forgot all about birds and the chill as I saw a minute,
> > headless, brown Loch Ness monster chug chuggin out from shore. By the
> > time I got out of the car it had dived. So I watched the riffles above
> > where it, and soon it surfaced, chug chugging back to shore. Ah! At
> > last I am in the element I know: mammals. A beautiful, light brown
> > muskrat, taking a lunch break. S/he went back into her/his den, and
> > though I waited many minutes, as silent as my ancestors, on the bank
> > slightly out of the wind, s/he did not feel inclined to venture back
> > out, undoubtedly having heard my footsteps through the ground.
> >
> > So I got back in the car and headed home, figuring that later on
> > all those
> > birds the rest of this group sees would soon arrive at these little
> > lakes.
> >
> > The sun was still well up, so I didn't see any nighthawks this time!
> >
> > Cendra Lynn
> >
> >
> > ---
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> > photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/
> > photos.html
> >
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Subject: [birders] Stoney Creek Friday & Vreeland Saturday
From: Ed Lewandowski <scotchman12year(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 21 Mar 2008 8:19pm
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Hello Birders,
Went to Stoney Creek after work for the Barred Owls, 4th try in 2 years and
still no dice.
Other good highlights...
Bridge at the dam produced a nice duck variety and only open water besides the
river off of the Osprey Trail added a few species to the list.
Noteworthy...
6 Wood Ducks
4 Gadwall
1 Wigeon
1 Ruddy
2 Coots
Sandhill fly over
1 Woodcock on the Osprey Trail
18 Common Redpolls landed right over my head nibbling on some tree buds
Saturday
Vreeland Rd.
Still putting out Snow Buntings, Lapland Longspurs but not in quantity of
previous post.
That farm field W. of Gotfredson is a keeper for reliable birds.
3 Bald Eagles at Van Buren Park
Happy Birding
Ed Lewandowski
Auburn Hills
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