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UMichBirders for Tuesday, March 25, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 [birders] local robins back  Cendra  12:16am 
 [birders] The Owl's Gift  jeanpanyard(AT)aol.com  8:50am 
 [birders] grackles  Sherri Smith   9:07am 
 [birders] Bird opportunity for teachers in Washtenaw County  ddarm(AT)umich.edu  10:16am 
 [birders] RE: Late Redpolls  Heather Slayton  10:33am 
 [birders] Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge - WPBO trip  Steve_Kahl(AT)fws.gov  10:38am 
 [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y  Julie Craves   11:13am 
 [birders] Re: The Owl's Gift  Sally K Scheer  11:19am 
 [birders] Sharp Shinned and Red Tail Hawks are enjoying my yard.  Janet Hug  11:58am 
 [birders] Redpolls  Lee Burton  12:06pm 
 [birders] test,please delete  ddarm(AT)umich.edu  12:25pm 
 [birders] Re: grackles  Sally K Scheer  12:39pm 
 [birders] OT: weather sites  Bruce M. Bowman  2:02pm 
 [birders] White-winged Scoters, Marine City  Russell Emmons  4:52pm 
 [birders] Two Peregrine Falcons at UHospital Ann Arbor 3/25  Roger Kuhlman   6:45pm 
 [birders] Macabre Icterid Factoids  Dan Sparks-Jackson  7:51pm 
 [birders] Phoebe time...  John Lowry  7:59pm 
 [birders] Re: misbehaving wren  Lee Green MD   9:10pm 
 [birders] Re: Macabre Icterid Factoids  Parula100(AT)aol.com  10:12pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] local robins back From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 12:16am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Another report from the Old West Side: OUR robins have returned. They were singing antiphonal responses to each other from trees on either side of the street. Our robin from last year returned, and a new one has moved in, as well. The new one is one whose call I've never heard before, so he probably was not fledged here. But they both sounded very pleased with themselves, so I guess they're each feeling they have enough territory. Cendra Lynn --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] The Owl's Gift From: jeanpanyard(AT)aol.com Date: 25 Mar 2008 8:50am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- ? A great horned owl perched momentarily in the walnut outside my window last night - Farmington Hills. The owl was pointed out to me by my son, 15, who claims he has no interest in birding, and "hey mom what kind of bird is that......where's your book? ? :-) ? --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] grackles From: Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu> Date: 25 Mar 2008 9:07am I suspect that grackles only kill other birds when they are raising young and plan to feed the sparrows or whatever to them. They raid nests for the same purpose. Sherri Smith --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Bird opportunity for teachers in Washtenaw County From: ddarm(AT)umich.edu Date: 25 Mar 2008 10:16am Dear Birders, Especially those who are school teachers or who know teachers, Washtenaw Audubon Society was awarded a grant to prepare a workshop for teachers who would be interested in incorporating some content about birds and birding into their curriculum. Francie Krawcke and I have come up with an amazing day (APRIL 19)of learning about birds for teachers and we have gotten the Michigan State Board of Education to approve continuing education credits (a total of 0.7) for the course. There is no fee for this course other than the $10 it takes to register the SB-CEU credits. All workshop participants will be provided with a wonderful list of resources both national and local. We will also be providing the National Audubon "Things with Wings Kits" to teachers who teach in Washtenaw County. If you know of any teachers who might be interested in this course, please email me so that I can send you (or them) a schedule and a flyer that you can send along to them. I have also posted a partial flyer below my signature if you wanted to forward that. Thanks very much. Dea **************************************************** Deaver D. Armstrong Education Chairperson Washtenaw Audubon Society Ann Arbor, MI 48103 734-668-2513 **************************************************** Washtenaw Audubon Society has been given a grant to provide a course about birds and birding to teachers in Washtenaw County, especially those areas where bird diversity is high, like Manchester, Lyndon and Sylvan Townships. While we hope to reach out to those communities in particular, we welcome all teachers. The course is an approved SB-CEU Program and will give the participant 0.7 credits. COURSE DATE: Saturday, April 19, 2008 Experts (ornithologists and environmental educators) from the Washtenaw Audubon Society and from the Leslie Science and Nature Center (LSNC) want to help you and your students get to know birds better. Thanks to a grant from the Michigan Audubon Society we are able to provide free* of cost a one-day workshop in April, useful to teachers of all grade levels. This course will give you all the tools and resources you need to easily introduce your students to the world of birds! The course will take place at the LSNC in Ann Arbor and participants will be able to closely observe live birds of prey (eagles, owls, falcons) as LSNC’s raptor specialist uses them to demonstrate bird biology and physiology basics. Upon completion of the course, Washtenaw Audubon Society will provide you with a mentor contact (many who are current or former teachers themselves) who will be available, should you desire, to advise you over the next year on any aspects of a bird conservation or bird education program that you would like (teacher, field trip or classroom support). INTERESTED? Please let us reserve a spot for you and send you a schedule! See https://www2.wash.k12.mi.us/achieveinit/sds/staffdev/SectionDisplay.asp?SectionID=3032&AlreadyRegistered=0 for more information or look up April Science Courses on the SB-CEU web site at http://www.solutionwhere.com/mi_sbceu/main.asp TO REGISTER: Email: ddarm(AT)umich.edu (include BIRD ECOLOGY COURSE in the subject line) OR Telephone: 734-668-2513 and leave a clear message with your name and phone number and a good time to return a call to you. Please register by April 12th. COST TO YOU: *Only a $ 10 fee to register your SB-CEU credits PROVIDED: Coffee, tea, sodas, a light lunch, and snacks and list of local resources and for Washtenaw County teachers, a “THINGS WITH WINGS” kit from the National Audubon Society to use in your classroom. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Late Redpolls From: "Heather Slayton" <hslayton(AT)comcast.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 10:33am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I've been silently jealous of Fred who lives just a couple of miles from me reporting seeing Redpolls at his feeders when I've never seen any.... *sniff* Well, finally, for the past few days I've had a couple on my thistle sock along with my Goldfinches. Yippee! Seems late to me as well but I'm sure glad to see them in my yard....... Heather Slayton Warren, MI "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments that take our breath away" -----Original Message----- From: Fred Kaluza [mailto:fkaluza(AT)sbcglobal.net] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 9:46 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: Late Redpolls I had 6 on Saturday. Down from a peak of 20’s a few weeks ago. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- From: LaHaie, Ivan J. [mailto:ivan.lahaie(AT)gd-ais.com] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2008 8:17 AM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Late Redpolls Does anyone else still have redpolls hanging around? I had several at my feeders over the weekend. This seems very late in the season to me. Ivan --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.21.8/1339 - Release Date: 3/22/2008 4:43 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1341 - Release Date: 3/24/2008 3:03 PM --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge - WPBO trip From: Steve_Kahl(AT)fws.gov Date: 25 Mar 2008 10:38am Whitefish Point Bird Observatory took their annual birding auto tour at Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge on March 22. Many thanks to Jerry Ziarno for guiding the tour. The refuge's wetland impoundments are still mostly frozen and the day was cold. However, spring is underway and many migrants were found. The complete list included: greater white-fronted goose - 4 snow goose - 6 Canada goose - 1000s (16,000 counted by staff earlier in the week) tundra swan - 60 gadwall - 2 American wigeon - 2 American black duck - 50 mallard - 100s northern pintail - 25 green-winged teal - 12 canvasback - 20 redhead - 100+ ring-necked duck - 60 lesser scaup - 30 bufflehead - 4 common goldeneye - 2 hooded merganser - 13 common merganser - 50 ruddy duck - 2 bald eagle - 9 northern harrier - 2 red-tailed hawk - 7 rough-legged hawk - 2 American coot - 12 sandhill crane - 1 killdeer - 1 ring-billed gull - 100s rock pigeon - 8 mourning dove - 20 blue jay - 4 American crow - 50 horned lark - 50 black-capped chickadee - 2 European starling American tree sparrow - 30 song sparrow - 8 dark-eyed junco - 6 northern cardinal - 2 red-winged blackbird - 100s common grackle - 50 house sparrow - 2 Steven Kahl Refuge Manager Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge 6975 Mower Road Saginaw, MI 48601-9783 P (989) 777-5930 ext 16 F (989) 777-9200 http://www.fws.gov/midwest/shiawassee/ --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 25 Mar 2008 11:13am I don't like to be a wet blanket, but I would like to place in factual context, a recent message regarding site fidelity in robins. It is possible that a robin in a given site today may be one that nested at that site in a previous year, as adults have fairly high site fidelity to breeding areas. However, they also have fairly high mortality, averaging 6% a month (it is higher in young birds, with only 25% surviving from fledging to Nov 1 of their natal year). A robin surviving its first winter is estimated to live less than 2 years. This data is based on several studies, but, as they say "your mileage may vary." However, it serves to illustrate that a robin MAY be the same bird as a previous year, but it is far, far from certain. Furthermore, this site fidelity applies a nesting bird, not a bird that has shown up in the beginning stages of migration. Birds that sing from the same perch, or nest in the same tree, or behave in similar manners cannot be judged to be the same bird based on those observations for the simple reason that birds of the same species are likely to find the same features attractive, especially in simplified landscapes such as urban areas. And while I admit to having a tin ear and admiration for those who are more able to distinguish melodies better than I can, without the aid of sonograms or intense study I do not believe the vast majority of people are able to identify individual robins by song alone. The premier bird vocalization expert, Don Kroodsma, devotes 13 pages to the analysis of one robin's song in his book "The Singing Life of Birds." He uses an elaborate system to detail the elements of this robin's song, and even with his trained ear and determination is challenged by it. He notes that robins have 75 to 100 variations on a particular phrase, but that they are "inseparable by the best of human ears." Complicating matters is the fact that neighboring robins use some of the same phrases. So again, it may be possible to determine a robin's identity by song, but for the average person it is far from certain. The one way to be certain a bird is "who" you think it is is individual marking (unless there is some outstanding, unique physical characteristic in a particular bird). As someone who has banded thousands of birds in my own back yard and tens of thousands at my study site at UM-Dearborn, I can tell you that there is great turnover even for birds that are essentially resident such as Downy Woodpeckers or chickadees. This turnover is seasonal, monthly, and even daily and hourly. In conclusion, Cendra's robin may be "her" robin. It is a (perhaps good) possibility, but likely not a probability, and there is no way to be certain of it based on the evidence provided. Disclaimer: This is not a slam to her or anybody else out there, just a reminder to not state things with certainty without verifiable facts. Especially about birds, because I feel it's my job to clarify! > Another report from the Old West Side: OUR robins have returned. They were > singing antiphonal responses to each other from trees on either side of the > street. Our robin from last year returned, and a new one has moved in, as > well. The new one is one whose call I've never heard before, so he probably > was not fledged here. But they both sounded very pleased with themselves, > so I guess they're each feeling they have enough territory. > > Cendra Lynn -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: The Owl's Gift From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat(AT)villagecorner.com> Date: 25 Mar 2008 11:19am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Hah!! Gotcha kid!! He's hooked and just doesn't know it yet. Sally Scheer Rogers City MI Shore of Lake Huron Presque Isle County ----- Original Message -----=20 From: jeanpanyard(AT)aol.com=20 To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20 Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 8:50 AM Subject: [birders] The Owl's Gift =20 A great horned owl perched momentarily in the walnut outside my window = last night - Farmington Hills. The owl was pointed out to me by my son, = 15, who claims he has no interest in birding, and "hey mom what kind of = bird is that......where's your book? :-) -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides.=20 --- * birders FAQ - = http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing = site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To = unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to = lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject = line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Sharp Shinned and Red Tail Hawks are enjoying my yard. From: "Janet Hug" <jkissnhug(AT)comcast.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 11:58am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I have posted a few photos of the local hawks that are frequenting my = back and front yards.=20 =20 Yesterday afternoon, a sharp shinned hawk was out in the front yard = hunting the undercarriage of my car. It had landed in the middle of the front = lawn, and walked 30 ft to the Jeep, looked all around, hopped into the undercarriage, and took off after about 10 minutes of no bird activity. =20 The Red Tail was from last week, where it landed on my fence post, and = was searching for prey, too. The chipmunks have emerged from winter slumber, = and went into deep hiding when this magnificent bird arrived on site. A red = tail hawk had captured a mallard duck last week, however, was startled before = it could finish the job, and they both flew off in opposite directions, the duck unharmed, and the hawk hungry. =20 Janet --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Redpolls From: "Lee Burton" <leejburton(AT)charter.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 12:06pm A large flock of redpolls is hanging around in some trees and feeders on Community Drive just east of Chilson Road in Hamburg Township. There may have been as many as 100 birds in the flock. Community Drive is just north of Winans Drive which is just north of Winans Lake Road. Look for a stone ranch house about 4 or 5 houses off of Chilson on the north side of Community Drive. The feeders there were filled with redpolls. Yesterday we had one redpoll at our feeder and our albino siskin visits our feeders daily. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] test,please delete From: ddarm(AT)umich.edu Date: 25 Mar 2008 12:25pm **************************************************** Deaver D. Armstrong City Ornithologist Natural Area Preservation Division City of Ann Arbor Department Park Operations 1831 Traver Road Ann Arbor, MI 48105 734-996-3266 **************************************************** --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: grackles From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat(AT)villagecorner.com> Date: 25 Mar 2008 12:39pm Then why have some here reported finding mutilated bodies and headless corpses they attribute to grackles? I'd say there's a lot more violence in the natural world than we humans are comfortable acknowledging. Right this minute, I'm watching a mini-herd of deer. Three of them are younger ones if their size is any guide. The fourth is an older adult. She repeatedly rears up on her hind feet and attacks the younger ones to chase them away from the spray of corn I've spread out for them. Is it likely that she's pregnant and trying to send her last year's offspring away before the new one(s) arrive or is she just exercising her rights as head of the herd? Sally Scheer Rogers City MI Shore of Lake Huron Presque Isle County ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherri Smith" <grackle(AT)umich.edu> To: <birders(AT)umich.edu> Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 9:07 AM Subject: [birders] grackles >I suspect that grackles only kill other birds when they are raising young >and plan to feed the sparrows or whatever to them. They raid nests for >the same purpose. > Sherri Smith > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] OT: weather sites From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 2:02pm I asked Dave Sing for "best weather web sites" and he sent me some great information. I asked him if I could forward his message to the list and he said yes, so here it is. I've put links to these sites at http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/links.html#weather but be sure to read Dave's comments below. Bruce >Date sent: Mon, 24 Mar 2008 10:22:16 -0400 >To: bbowman99(AT)comcast.net >From: Dave Sing <dsing(AT)umich.edu> >Subject: Re: weather site > > > Bruce; One can't go wrong with the NOAA NWS home > > page. http://www.nws.noaa.gov/ > > Click on a region, then click again for a 'point' forecast. Once you > > go regional there are a list of links along the left side that offer a > > slew of information. There's also an interpretive map system with > > tabs that include a tab for 'Forecast Graphics'. This feature will > > give you precip amount estimates in 6 and 12 hour time frames. > > > > Regional site for Detroit: > > http://www.crh.noaa.gov/dtx/ > > > > To delve a little deeper try the HPC (Hydrometerological Prediction > > Center) from the NWS. Here, they chart the QPF (Quantifiable > > Precipitation Forecast) on national maps. The QPF shows precip > > estimates for 24 hour periods. The HPC site is a wee bit more > > technical than the NOAA NWS home page but it's very handy and has lots > > more interpretive forecast maps. http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/ > > > > An oldie but a goodie is the Weather Underground, a UM product from > > the early days of web browsing. They whip up a load of information > > and have the most flexible and up to real-time radars. I love the > > radar here, one can zoom right in and it's usually up to real time. I > > find the site in general to be too busy and wonky for my taste, but > > it's still real good. Be prepared to navigate. > > http://www.wunderground.com/ > > > > For accurate, constantly updated surface maps and loads of great > > satellite and radar data > > it's hard to beat the NCAR RAP Real-Time Weather site. One can get > > all the NEXRAD stations, and the surface maps are updated every 15 > > minutes. I love this site when weather is in progress. > > http://www.ral.ucar.edu/weather/ > > > > I try to read the discussions as much as possible - you get a feel for > > how the forecasters are leaning vis-a-vis the model runs. So, > > anywhere on any of the NOAA sites you see 'Forecast Discussion' you > > can get into the minds of the folks actually making the calls on the > > weather. Each station produces a new discussion every six hours or so, > > more often when things are happening. The Michigan NOAA discussion > > site (Choose a region at the top of the page): > > http://www.weather.gov/view/prodsByState.php?state=MI&prodtype=discuss > > ion > > > > Finally(!) this site is fascinating and has some real useful > > information for outdoor folks. > > Requires some navigation. > > http://www.sailflow.com/windandwhere.iws > > And this site is lots of fun. > > http://www.weatherbonk.com/ > > > > Cheers Dave > > > > > > At 03:27 PM 3/21/2008, you wrote: > > >Dave- > > > > > >What's the best weather web site overall? One thing I want at a web > > >site is the anticipated amount of precipitation for some period of > > >time. As far as I can see, I can't get that from weather.com. > > >Weather.com just tells me the percentage probability of > > >precipitation. On the radio I'll hear something like "Detroit is > > >expected to get 2 to 4 inches of snow tonight." Weather.com doesn't > > >tell me that. > > > > > >Bruce ------------------------------------ Bruce M. Bowman Ann Arbor, Michigan USA Washtenaw Co., southeast Michigan bbowman99(AT)comcast.net http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] White-winged Scoters, Marine City From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net> Date: 25 Mar 2008 4:52pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I've just posted on umich birders Grove Street album a photo of 1 of = 2 White-winged Scoters I spotted WAY out on the St.Clair River yesterday = just off downtown Marine City. The pic is small but discernible. (No = digiscope or big lense.) Sorry about the late post. Also on this jaunt = along the river and over to the St. Johns Marsh, Anchor Bay, a few other = noteworthy species were the expected Common Mergansers, Buffleheads, = Canvasbacks, Redheads, Mallards, Canada Geese, Swans, Great Blue Heron = (only 1) Killdeer (only a few) Ring-billed Gulls, Red-tail Hawks (2), = Rough-legged Hawk, and hundreds of Red-winged Blackbirds, Grackles, = Brown-Headed Cowbirds, Starlings each and I suspected a few Rusty = Blackbirds mixed in the hordes. Conspicuous by their absence were = Pied-billed Grebes and American Coots, Greater-Black Backed Gulls, = Bonapartes Gulls! Spring is just not happening up this way. Today blizzard like = conditions, high winds, more snow! The Belle River, adjoining creeks, = the St. Johns Marsh/St. Clair Flats are still mostly froze over! Anchor = Bay mostly also with many ice-fisherman still way out there fishing! We noted still several dead ducks out on the ice floes along our = way! Vast areas of Phragmites have been cut in the marsh by someone. I assume = the DNR? I say Hooray finally! Keep it up there is MUCH more to be = done! Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Two Peregrine Falcons at UHospital Ann Arbor 3/25 From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 25 Mar 2008 6:45pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- When I was at UM Hospital in Ann Arbor just after 4pm Tuesday afternoon, I = saw two Peregrine Falcons. Both of them flew around the main hospital build= ing by the Taubman Center and landed on ledges on the building. I got great= views of both of the Falcons. Wow! I think it was kind of unusal to see tw= o Peregrines together. =20 Two days earlier on Sunday I had seen one Peregrine flying on the northern = side of the main hospital. =20 Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor, Michigan 3/25/2008= --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Macabre Icterid Factoids From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> Date: 25 Mar 2008 7:51pm Following the grackle predation thread, I remembered some relevant passages in Jaramillo & Burke's "New World Blackbirds: the Icterids". Under the Common Grackle account, a portion of the 'behavior' heading reads: "Common Grackle is an accomplished nest predator, but will even kill and eat small birds and mammals! Most often birds are killed by pecks to the back of the head. In one documented instance a single Common Grackle killed and ate at least 39 small passerines during a two week period." Likewise, in regards to Rusty Blackbirds it is noted that: "When times are tough, particularly in the early spring if the blackbirds find themselves in the midst of a snowy cold snap, they become aggressive predators. On more than one occasion they have been observed to pursue and kill small songbirds, and birds as big as Common Snipe (Gallinago gallinago)! After the prey has been quickly dispatched, the brain is eaten, leaving everything else intact. Perhaps the bill and legs of the Rusty Blackbird are not strong enough to be able to gain access to the breast meat." Yikes! Dan S-J --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Phoebe time... From: "John Lowry" <john(AT)kingbird.org> Date: 25 Mar 2008 7:59pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- This afternoon I heard a phoebe singing at the RR tracks crossing the = Huron River near the pullout for the Foster Savannah access. My first for the year! John Lowry --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: misbehaving wren From: Lee Green MD <greenla(AT)daylight.fp.med.umich.edu> Date: 25 Mar 2008 9:10pm The feeder the wren is determined to empty has safflower only, and has never had anything else, so if it's still looking for something else it's a really stubborn bird. Or slow on the uptake :-) We have several feeders, and our neighbors have too, each with different contents, so it could find pretty much whatever it wants around here. I think it's just enjoying itself! (I put safflower only in the feeder closest to my window because anything else seems to bring in a lot of starlings. We're in a farming area.) -Lee On Mon, 24 Mar 2008, Sherri Smith wrote: > Lee, > your wren can't crack seeds, so it is looking for a hull-less one. It > probably thinks your feeder is full of sunflower hearts and is very > disappointed. Why don't you mix in some sunflower hearts and support this > fine bird? > Sherri Smith > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. > To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. Lee Green MD MPH Department of Family Medicine University of Michigan --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Macabre Icterid Factoids From: Parula100(AT)aol.com Date: 25 Mar 2008 10:12pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- In a message dated 3/25/2008 7:51:11 PM Eastern Daylight Time, sparksjackson(AT)aol.com writes: Under the Common Grackle account, a portion of the 'behavior' heading reads: "Common Grackle is an accomplished nest predator, but will even kill and eat small birds and mammals! Most often birds are killed by pecks to the back of the head. Dan, This is very interesting, and fits with what I observed in my yard a few years ago. That summer I found several dead House Sparrows whose skulls had been crushed. One day, I was reading out in the yard when I heard the sound of a bird screaming from the back of my yard. I ran over to the spot, and was surprised to see a Grackle fly out from beneath a shrub. When I investigated further, I found a dazed House Sparrow with blood on its head. After a few minutes, it recovered and flew away. Darlene Friedman Novi **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----

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