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UMichBirders for Thursday, March 27, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 [birders] Killdeer and Great Egret  david allen   2:44am 
 [birders] Little Lake, still well populated  Lehef(AT)aol.com  12:29am 
 [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y  Cendra  2:37am 
 [birders] RE: song sparrow  Santner, Steven  8:06am 
 [birders] chat/macaw solves tavern puzzle  Crystal Keller   8:54am 
 [birders] Re: Loon behavior  Matthew Valencic  7:56am 
 [birders] Re: chat/macaw solves tavern puzzle  J. Michael Nolan  9:17am 
 [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad  Fred Kaluza  9:50am 
 [birders] RE: song sparrow  Richard Neubig  9:55am 
 [birders] RE: song sparrow  avianscout(AT)aol.com  10:05am 
 [birders] grackles  Suzanne Vedder   7:06am 
 [birders] returning robins  Sherri Smith   11:03am 
 [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad  Santner, Steven  11:15am 
 [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad  J. Michael Nolan  10:17am 
 [birders] re: returning robins  Julie Craves   11:33am 
 [birders] Rusty Blackbirds, Trinkle Marsh, Washtenaw Co. 3/27AM  SparksJackson(AT)aol.co  11:42am 
 [birders] Longevity questions (was: Re: returning robins)  eba(AT)umich.edu  11:53am 
 [birders] re: returning robins  makielb@excite.com  12:21pm 
 [birders] Two or Three Loons on Barton Pond Ann Arbor 3/27  Roger Kuhlman   12:26pm 
 [birders] Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update  Diane Pruden  12:57pm 
 [birders] Re: Longevity questions (was: Re: returning robins)  Julie Craves   1:23pm 
 [birders] Re: Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update  Sally K Scheer  2:08pm 
 [birders] re: returning robins  Cendra  3:16pm 
 [birders] Re: Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update  Cendra  3:24pm 
 [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y  Russell Emmons  5:26pm 
 [birders] RE: song sparrow  Russell Emmons  5:46pm 
 [birders] Tree Swallows & E. Phoebe  PATRICK BAIZE   4:10pm 
 [birders] Re: returning robins  max   8:25pm 
 [birders] more returning birds  Sherri Smith   9:42pm 
 [birders] From Ohio Birds - BIRDERS URGENTLY NEEDED TO TRACK RUSTY BLACKBIRD MIGRATION  Vincent Ste-Marie  10:00pm 
 [birders] northern sightings  Sally K Scheer  10:11pm 
 [birders] Re: more returning birds  Dan Sparks-Jackson  10:38pm 
 [birders] RE: White-winged Scoters, Marine City  Cendra  11:43pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Killdeer and Great Egret From: david allen <whiteoakart(AT)hughes.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 2:44am 5 Killdeer were spotted running along Timberlake Road just off of W. Austin in Manchester on Tuesday. The ground was still covered in snow, although the road was bare. Today, we saw a great egret flying over near Grossman and W. Austin, also in Manchester. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Little Lake, still well populated From: Lehef(AT)aol.com Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:29am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Although one day last week the lake was deserted, almost every day (including today) I've found canvasbacks and ring-necked ducks, redheads, coots, hooded mergansers, buffleheads, American Wigeons, and sometimes scaup, Amer. black duck. Haven't noticed the pintail or grebes lately but haven't looked very carefully. One day two trumpeter swans were on the smaller lake on the west side of Little Lake Drive, but the next day the mutes were back. Song sparrows, goldfinches, redwings, cardinals, titmice, chickadees, nuthatches, and bluebirds have been singing up a storm in the adjacent fields for the past couple of weeks and there are probably woodcock out there, although I haven't checked at dawn or dusk. Two weeks ago there was a sapsucker in Saginaw forest, nearby. In my yard at Sunward Cohousing downeys, hairys, and redbellys, are devouring my suet., and downys occasionally are drumming. The coopers and sharp-shinned that haunted my feeders haven't been around lately. Lee Hefner ************** Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 2:37am I guess I should have googled first. Back in 1978 there was no google. But there were stoplights and I guess I'll go out and try to look like one! Cendra -----Original Message----- From: Julie Craves [mailto:jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:00 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y > I read 25+ years ago that because robins are so common, no one much > studies them. At that time nothing was known about them other than > the color of their eggs, how many they laid, how they built their nests, and when. This is erroneous. Researchers are often more likely to pick common birds simply because they are common. A quick search of "American Robin" in Google Scholar and the Searchable Ornithological Research Archive revealed 540 hits of papers, etc. published prior to 1978. I got over 2000 hits for things published since. -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow From: "Santner, Steven" <santners(AT)karmanos.org> Date: 27 Mar 2008 8:06am Bob: Along with Blue Jays and crows and possibly even cuckoos (I saw one chase an adult goldfinch once) and maybe others. Steve Santner -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bethune [mailto:poihths(AT)comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:42 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow So, grackles join hawks and shrikes in the passerine-eaters club? Bob Bethune Freshwater Seas http://www.freshwaterseas.com -----Original Message----- From: Penny [mailto:Jumpthroughhoops(AT)yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:55 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow I have seen Grackles attack and kill sparrows in my backyard. The pigeons without heads looked like they died in a similar manner to the headless sparrows - decapitated. I couldn't figure out what was killing them until I actually saw it happen a few times. As near as I can figure out, it's to reduce competition for food at feeders. It's odd because they usually even eat side by side on the ground. Then.....it's like something sets them off. One year I had so many it was getting disgusting. I have seen them peck at the brain. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] chat/macaw solves tavern puzzle From: Crystal Keller <crystal(AT)kellerfarm.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 8:54am http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/up/player/popup/?cl=7134273 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Loon behavior From: "Matthew Valencic" <Matthew.Valencic(AT)AmericanMedicalSystems.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 7:56am I observed this same loon behavior yesterday (Wednesday) in central Ohio at Prairie Oaks Metro Park (just west of Columbus on I-70, exit 85 then go north one mile). One loon way out in the lake splashing, dancing and diving. I took some pictures with my telephoto lens - not great but I will post a link soon so you can see some of the postures. Matt Valencic Chagrin Falls, OH 44022 -----Original Message----- From: eba(AT)umich.edu [mailto:eba(AT)umich.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 7:17 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Re: Loon behavior I have seen similar behavior to this in Canada geese -- they will flip over and flap around for a while on their backs, and then right themselves and in a great shower of droplets shake themselves off. I took it to be the equivalent of the bath that smaller birds would take in a puddle or birdbath. Eric Arnold Ann Arbor --On Wednesday, March 26, 2008 3:59 PM -0400 "Janice E. Olesen" <jeolesen(AT)wideopenwest.com> wrote: > > The Common Loon at Stony Creek Park, today was exhibiting some strange > behavior. It would flap it's wings furiously then dive under just far > enough to float head under water with it's big white belly showing for a > couple of seconds, then emerge. Basically, it was doing somersaults in > the water. I've looked in my one book on loons and this behavior is not > mentioned. It mentions foot waves, various loon calls and the Penguin > dance. Does anyone know why it somersalts? I think it does it because > its fun. Today there were two new species in the water, these being, one > Coot and fifty or more Common Mergansers. I check for Barred owls, but > didn't see them. --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: chat/macaw solves tavern puzzle From: "J. Michael Nolan" <mnolan(AT)rainforestandreef.org> Date: 27 Mar 2008 9:17am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I know that birds in captivity are sometimes a bit on the side of = blasphemy to some Birders. We have an inherited Blue and Gold Macaw and = a Scarlet Macaw. It is difficult to hang toys from their perches and I = have tried everything. Only recently started using chains and key rings = to attach things. Found the even with some smaller key rings, it is no = problem at all for them to get it off the chain and find it laying on = the floor. Have recently found a size or thick enough one that they = can't handle. So, this video is certainly no shock to me. Amazing what = they can do with these beaks and claws. Mike Nolan ---------- If we are on another line or away from the phone, please leave your = number, best time to return your call and/or your e-mail address. =20 After hours and weekend phone appointments are available upon request. Sincerely, J. Michael Nolan, Director =20 Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit *************************************************************************= ************************* "Outstanding-Affordable Field Courses in Rainforest & Marine Ecology" "Spanish/Cultural Immersion Programs: Spain, Mexico, Central and South = America" Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit P.O. Box 141543 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49514-1543 USA Local/International Phone: 001.616.604.0546 Toll Free U.S. and Canada: 1.877.255.3721 Skype/MS IM: travelwithrandr AOL IM: buddythemacaw E-mail: info(AT)rainforestandreef.org and travelwithrandr(AT)gmail.com *Note: Please send inquiries to both e-mail addresses Web: http://rainforestandreef.org *************************************************************************= ************************* --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad From: "Fred Kaluza" <fkaluza(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 9:50am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Thanks for the photo Diane. I know you said the nest looked rickety. Perhaps this is a first-year nester i.e. inexperienced builder or=85as has happened here with Tree Swallows, the parents somehow = regarded the youngster as deficient and gave that one the boot over the edge. Some = birds engage in sibling rivalry to the same extent. Does anyone think there = may be a baby Cowbird up there? Just kidding. =20 _____ =20 From: Diane Pruden [mailto:dianepruden(AT)gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:42 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Great Horned Owlet-sad =20 This afternoon, I visited Oakwoods Metro Park with hopes of seeing the = Great Horned Owl on the nest that Kevin mentioned a few days ago.=20 =20 As I reached the nest, four of the park naturalists were right behind me = to point out the nest. It was a rather rickety looking nest and one side = was markedly lower than the other. Mama owl was not visible on the nest. Kevin began looking around at the ground at the base of the large tree = which held the approximately 60' high nest. He heard and then found a baby owl which did not appear to have been injured. It was probably only a couple of days old and its eyes were = till closed. As the group prepared to head back to the nature center, Mama = owl was spotted flying behind some nearby trees. =20 Initial plans were to take the owlet to the River Raisin Raptor Center = but in a phone call the people there said the best thing to do was to get = the bird back into the nest. They would not be able to care for it. They provided a name and phone number of someone from the area who had worked with birds and had climbed trees to return birds to nests. When I left = at 3 PM, phone messages had been left for this person. The baby was nestled = on soft towels in a card board box and covered with another in the office. = It peeped occasionally. I plan to check on its progress tomorrow. =20 I have posted a picture of the owlet, as found, on the Grove Street = site. I suspect that, like me, many on this list have never seen an owl this = young and so I thought the picture might be of interest. =20 Diane Pruden Milford=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html = * photo sharing site - = http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject = line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: = 3/26/2008 8:52 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG.=20 Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: = 3/27/2008 10:03 AM =20 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow From: "Richard Neubig" <rneubig(AT)med.umich.edu> Date: 27 Mar 2008 9:55am Last spring I saw a red-bellied woodpecker very methodically march up to a gnatcatcher nest in the Arb and snatch the baby out - while the parent was flying at the woodpecker repeatedly to chase it away but to no avail. Rick Rick Neubig RNeubig(AT)umich.edu Department of Pharmacology University of Michigan Phone (734) 764-8165 FAX (734) 763-4450 Personal web site http://warbler.med.umich.edu Center for Chemical Genomics http://lsi.umich.edu/ccg >>> "Santner, Steven" <santners(AT)karmanos.org> 03/27/08 8:06 AM >>> Bob: Along with Blue Jays and crows and possibly even cuckoos (I saw one chase an adult goldfinch once) and maybe others. Steve Santner -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bethune [mailto:poihths(AT)comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:42 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow So, grackles join hawks and shrikes in the passerine-eaters club? Bob Bethune Freshwater Seas http://www.freshwaterseas.com -----Original Message----- From: Penny [mailto:Jumpthroughhoops(AT)yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:55 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow I have seen Grackles attack and kill sparrows in my backyard. The pigeons without heads looked like they died in a similar manner to the headless sparrows - decapitated. I couldn't figure out what was killing them until I actually saw it happen a few times. As near as I can figure out, it's to reduce competition for food at feeders. It's odd because they usually even eat side by side on the ground. Then.....it's like something sets them off. One year I had so many it was getting disgusting. I have seen them peck at the brain. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ********************************************************** Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow From: avianscout(AT)aol.com Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:05am I have watched redheaded woodpeckers repeatedly try to catch ruby- throated hummingbirds during their nesting cycle. Dan Thiry On 27 Mar 08, at 9:55 AM, Richard Neubig wrote: > Last spring I saw a red-bellied woodpecker very methodically march > up to a gnatcatcher nest in the Arb and snatch the baby out - while > the parent was flying at the woodpecker repeatedly to chase it away > but to no avail. > Rick > > Rick Neubig RNeubig(AT)umich.edu > Department of Pharmacology University of Michigan > Phone (734) 764-8165 > FAX (734) 763-4450 > > Personal web site > http://warbler.med.umich.edu > > Center for Chemical Genomics > http://lsi.umich.edu/ccg > > >>>> "Santner, Steven" <santners(AT)karmanos.org> 03/27/08 8:06 AM >>> > > Bob: > > Along with Blue Jays and crows and possibly even cuckoos (I saw > one chase an adult goldfinch once) and maybe others. > > Steve Santner > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Bethune [mailto:poihths(AT)comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:42 PM > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow > > > So, grackles join hawks and shrikes in the passerine-eaters club? > > Bob Bethune > Freshwater Seas > http://www.freshwaterseas.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: Penny [mailto:Jumpthroughhoops(AT)yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:55 PM > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow > > I have seen Grackles attack and kill sparrows in my backyard. The > pigeons without heads looked like they died in a similar manner to the > headless sparrows - decapitated. I couldn't figure out what was > killing > them until I actually saw it happen a few times. As near as I can > figure out, it's to reduce competition for food at feeders. It's odd > because they usually even eat side by side on the ground. > Then.....it's > like something sets them off. One year I had so many it was getting > disgusting. I have seen them peck at the brain. > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: > 3/26/2008 8:52 AM > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG. > Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: > 3/26/2008 8:52 AM > > > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/ > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > > > ********************************************************** > Electronic Mail is not secure, may not be read every day, and > should not be used for urgent or sensitive issues > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/ > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] grackles From: Suzanne Vedder <suzeev(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 7:06am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Driving down Canton Center Rd. this morning I spied two Grackles flying over, one trailing nesting materials. It has begun. Suzanne in Canton Suzanne Vedder mom to Meredith 13, Bisrat 13, Yabsira 11, Darrin 10, & Mihret 7 "Nature is but a name for the effect in which the cause is God." William Cowper --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] returning robins From: Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu> Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:03am I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the afternoon i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off the cage bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms went with it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and eager to get these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let the robins and jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their perpetually hungry families. One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the spring if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would hang about conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would go out with his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought off the starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if I was working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and make a great racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him very reliably. He came back for seven years, the year he didn't return was very sad. Sherri Smith --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad From: "Santner, Steven" <santners(AT)karmanos.org> Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:15am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Fred: =20 I don't think Great Horned Owls build their own nests - they take over old nests (or sometimes even newly built ones) of other birds. =20 Steve Santner -----Original Message----- From: Fred Kaluza [mailto:fkaluza(AT)sbcglobal.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:51 AM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad =09 =09 Thanks for the photo Diane. I know you said the nest looked rickety. Perhaps this is a first-year nester i.e. inexperienced builder or...as has happened here with Tree Swallows, the parents somehow regarded the youngster as deficient and gave that one the boot over the edge. Some birds engage in sibling rivalry to the same extent. Does anyone think there may be a baby Cowbird up there? Just kidding. =20 =09 ________________________________ From: Diane Pruden [mailto:dianepruden(AT)gmail.com]=20 Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 11:42 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Great Horned Owlet-sad =20 This afternoon, I visited Oakwoods Metro Park with hopes of seeing the Great Horned Owl on the nest that Kevin mentioned a few days ago.=20 =20 As I reached the nest, four of the park naturalists were right behind me to point out the nest. It was a rather rickety looking nest and one side was markedly lower than the other. Mama owl was not visible on the nest. Kevin began looking around at the ground at the base of the large tree which held the approximately 60' high nest. He heard and then found a baby owl which did not appear to have been injured. It was probably only a couple of days old and its eyes were till closed. As the group prepared to head back to the nature center, Mama owl was spotted flying behind some nearby trees. =20 Initial plans were to take the owlet to the River Raisin Raptor Center but in a phone call the people there said the best thing to do was to get the bird back into the nest. They would not be able to care for it. They provided a name and phone number of someone from the area who had worked with birds and had climbed trees to return birds to nests. When I left at 3 PM, phone messages had been left for this person. The baby was nestled on soft towels in a card board box and covered with another in the office. It peeped occasionally. I plan to check on its progress tomorrow. =20 I have posted a picture of the owlet, as found, on the Grove Street site. I suspect that, like me, many on this list have never seen an owl this young and so I thought the picture might be of interest. =20 Diane Pruden Milford=20 =20 =20 =20 =20 =20 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.=20 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.0/1344 - Release Date: 3/26/2008 8:52 AM --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html=20 =09 * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.=20 =09 =09 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1346 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 10:03 AM =09 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Great Horned Owlet-sad From: "J. Michael Nolan" <mnolan(AT)rainforestandreef.org> Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:17am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- most owls are born in a "stair-step" fashion, that is there is some time = between the time each egg is laid. obviously a mechanism to reduce = competition among the hatchlings. often time the youngest one or two is = tossed out of the nest by older siblings. so, this may look a bit sad = through out eyes, but actually part of the bigger plan. i have also seen in some birds, like Boobies. where one of the young = will sit there and just peck away until his/her sibling is dead. the = parents just sit and watch, and certainly for the same reason. have a great thursday and weekend. go spartans! mike nolan ---------- If we are on another line or away from the phone, please leave your = number, best time to return your call and/or your e-mail address. =20 After hours and weekend phone appointments are available upon request. Sincerely, J. Michael Nolan, Director =20 Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit *************************************************************************= ************************* =93Outstanding-Affordable Field Courses in Rainforest & Marine = Ecology=94 =93Spanish/Cultural Immersion Programs: Spain, Mexico, Central and South = America=94 Rainforest and Reef 501 (c)(3) non-profit P.O. Box 141543 Grand Rapids, Michigan 49514-1543 USA Local/International Phone: 001.616.604.0546 Toll Free U.S. and Canada: 1.877.255.3721 Skype/MS IM: travelwithrandr AOL IM: buddythemacaw E-mail: info(AT)rainforestandreef.org and travelwithrandr(AT)gmail.com *Note: Please send inquiries to both e-mail addresses Web: http://rainforestandreef.org *************************************************************************= ************************* --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] re: returning robins From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:33am Sorry, I'm going to keep at this... I banded a pair of Carolina Wrens in my yard several years ago. One winter, they came to my office window, where I would put out mealworms and waxworms for them, something I began just for them as it was a harsh winter. Come nesting season, they disappeared, and we didn't see wrens again in the yard until one or two winters later. Once again, it was two birds, and they made their presence known by landing on my office windowsill, although I had not put out any worms for many months. Guess what? They were new wrens. Had I not banded the original two, I would have sworn these were the same birds I had fed before. I'm not trying to be a jerk, so let me explain my position. I don't have the time to correct all factual errors that appear in this forum. However, I think one purpose of this list is to share and educate each other about birds. Certainly public education is part of my job. Many people on this list do not have the access to scientific literature, or the background or motivation to assimilate it, that I do. There are many common, persistent, misconceptions about birds (or ecology). When something along these lines pops up and I can address it, I do so, since ignoring it means I have passed up a valuable opportunity to help people think about the world around them in new and different ways (I hope!). I sometimes do this with reluctance. Part of my job also depends on the goodwill and support of the community, and representing the University in a positive way. I hope that my wet-blanket posts do not seem too curmudgeonly and are taken in the spirit in which they are intended -- opening windows and not closing doors. > I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the > afternoon i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off > the cage bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms > went with it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and > eager to get these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let > the robins and jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their > perpetually hungry families. > One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the > spring if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would > hang about conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would > go out with his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought > off the starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if > I was working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and > make a great racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him > very reliably. He came back for seven years, the year he didn't > return was very sad. > Sherri Smith -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Rusty Blackbirds, Trinkle Marsh, Washtenaw Co. 3/27AM From: SparksJackson(AT)aol.com Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:42am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- There were around a dozen Rusty Blackbirds at the SE corner of Trinkle Marsh at 9AM this morning. They were actively engaged in leaf-flipping in the wood ed portion of the marsh alongside Trinkle Road, and also pecking around in the short grass in the field just to the south. The were in the company of Common Grackles. Trinkle Marsh is at the NE corner of the intersection of Trinkle and Dancer Roads, ESE of Dexter. I also espied one Rusty at the horse paddock on the west side of Fletcher Road about 0.25 miles south of Dexter-Chelsea Road. These seem to be reliable spring locations for this species in Washtenaw County, and according to my records, especially on drizzly-to-rainy March mornings. The dreary weather seems to concentrate the migrants of this species into small flocks around thawing bodies of water. At least its good for something other than mud production. Dan S-J **************Create a Home Theater Like the Pros. Watch the video on AOL Home. (http://home.aol.com/diy/home-improvement-eric-stromer?video=15?ncid=aolhom00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Longevity questions (was: Re: returning robins) From: eba(AT)umich.edu Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:53am The recent discussion about returning birds and the comments by Julie Craves about the information on longevity causes me to wonder if there is any information about effects of banding on longevity. It seems that one of our most significant sources of information about bird lifespan comes from banded birds; what if unbanded lifespan is different from that of banded birds? Would we know it? Questions of interactions with humans, too, enter as I recall the recent studies at Algonquin of the Grey Jay range shifts where a decrease was attributed to possible effects of global warming, with consequent reduction of the late winter food supply due to spoilage. It was observed in that study that no population reduction seemed to take place there in areas where feeders were available. Sherri's story of the long life of her handout-begging robin brings up a different angle on the question of how our interaction with birds affects their longevity. We hear from zoos that the lifetime of many animals in captivity exceeds that of their wild counterparts, and certainly parrots are known to achieve great age in captivity. That isn't to say that their quality of life is better than that of a free bird, but it does seem, at least, that there's a possibility for skewed data if there is no reliable independent information on bird longevity in unbanded (& perhaps un-traumatized) birds. A number of years ago, a friend of mine went out west to work with fisheries researchers to figure out how to track salmon which were released from hatcheries to make their way to the ocean where some of them would be harvested by commercial fishing, and he helped to develop a coding technique involving the insertion of a very small piece of stainless steel wire into the snouts of the fingerlings which had a microscopic code etched in it. The fish with the wires in their snouts could be detected by the harvesting personnel by passing all of the fish through sensitive magnetometers (not all stainless steels are non-magnetic) and the ones with the markers had the wires recovered from their snouts and thus data was collected on which fish went where in the ocean. While this process didn't involve returning the fish to the sea to continue their travels, recent developments with pet ID by implanting chips which can be read non-invasively suggest that there might be alternative ways for marking birds, and detectors might be set up at remote places as well as in familiar areas, e.g. in feeders and nesting boxes, which would report the presence of a nesting bird. If there is knowledge within this list of efforts in this or similar directions, it would be very interesting to hear about it. Eric Arnold Ann Arbor --On Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:03 AM -0400 Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu> wrote: > I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the afternoon > i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off the cage > bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms went with > it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and eager to get > these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let the robins and > jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their perpetually > hungry families. > One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the spring > if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would hang about > conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would go out with > his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought off the > starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if I was > working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and make a great > racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him very reliably. > He came back for seven years, the year he didn't return was very sad. > Sherri Smith > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > > --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] re: returning robins From: "makielb(AT)excite.com" <makielb@excite.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:21pm --- On Thu 03/27, Julie Craves < jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu > wrote: From: Julie Craves [mailto: jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu] To: birders(AT)umich.edu Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 11:33:28 -0400 Subject: [birders] re: returning robins Sorry, I'm going to keep at this...I banded a pair of Carolina Wrens in my yard several years ago. One winter, they came to my office window, where I would put out mealworms and waxworms for them, something I began just for them as it was a harsh winter.Come nesting season, they disappeared, and we didn't see wrens again in the yard until one or two winters later. Once again, it was two birds, and they made their presence known by landing on my office windowsill, although I had not put out any worms for many months. Guess what? They were new wrens. Had I not banded the original two, I would have sworn these were the same birds I had fed before.I'm not trying to be a jerk, so let me explain my position. I don't have the time to correct all factual errors that appear in this forum. However, I think one purpose of this list is to share and educate each other about birds. Certainly public education is part of my job. Many people on this list do not have the access to scientific literature, or the background or motivation to assimilate it, that I do. There are many common, persistent, misconceptions about birds (or ecology). When something along these lines pops up and I can address it, I do so, since ignoring it means I have passed up a valuable opportunity to help people think about the world around them in new and different ways (I hope!).I sometimes do this with reluctance. Part of my job also depends on the goodwill and support of the community, and representing the University in a positive way. I hope that my wet-blanket posts do not seem too curmudgeonly and are taken in the spirit in which they are intended -- opening windows and not closing doors.> I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the > afternoon i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off > the cage bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms > went with it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and > eager to get these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let > the robins and jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their > perpetually hungry families.> One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the > spring if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would > hang about conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would > go out with his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought > off the starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if > I was working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and > make a great racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him > very reliably. He came back for seven years, the year he didn't > return was very sad.> Sherri Smith-- Julie A. CravesRouge River Bird ObservatoryUniversity of Michigan-DearbornDearborn, MI 48128http://www.rrbo.org---* birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html* photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message tolyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. Toresubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Two or Three Loons on Barton Pond Ann Arbor 3/27 From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:26pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- About mid-morning I drove by Barton Pond to check on the waterfowl present.= A number of goodies were there including (still) the Oldswquaw, several Ho= rned Grebes and Pied-billed Grebes and a few Tree Swallows. While scoping t= he water two Common Loons in breeding plummage swam very close to the shore= by my position. It gave me an excellent chance to view their magnificent, = heavy black bills up close. Later I saw another Common Loon at the western= end of Barton Pond that may have been a third bird. =20 If you go to Barton Pond check the pond from both the pullout just west of = the dam and in the Foster Park area further west. =20 Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor, Michigan 3/27/2008= --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update From: "Diane Pruden" <dianepruden(AT)gmail.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 12:57pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I just spoke with Kevin at the Oakwoods Metro Park Nature Center and received the following update on the owlet I posted about last night. The bird is now in the care of raptor rehabilitator Dave Hogan. The bird is eating well and has even grown noticeably since yesterday! The Nature Center is still looking for a person to return the bird to the nest - 60' up an old oak with no lower limbs and no access for motorized equipment. Mama owl is back on the nest so perhaps there is another nestling. If they can't get the bird back in the nest, Dave knows of a rehabber with female owls who may be able to serve as a surrogate mother. Apparently some owls will accept other babies if the introduction is done at the right time. The future of this owlet seems much more hopeful today. Diane Pruden Milford --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Longevity questions (was: Re: returning robins) From: Julie Craves <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> Date: 27 Mar 2008 1:23pm Eric asked: "Is there is any information about effects of banding on longevity?" There have been some issues with increased mortality from certain kind of bands or markers on some suite of birds (shorebirds, vultures, and waterbirds come to mind). These methods are discontinued if there is any evidence of injury or death. I've never seen any literature on leg bands in songbirds impacting mortality. The high number of recaptured birds most banders encounter after any sort of good effort, which can include mass gain between captures, indicates that aluminum leg bands are not a handicap to most songbirds. It also suggests that, in the right hands, repeated capture and release has little effect on survivorship. If done correctly, banding is low impact, and certainly the most inexpensive, low-tech, non-invasive way we have to gather all sorts of information about birds. Repeated handling, as Eric was discussing, can be avoided if birds are color-marked and then re-sighting data is used rather than repeated capture (to read the band numbers). In one study I came across survivorship and longevity were higher using resighting data versus recapture data (although I did not read the paper to examine the methods or see what research cited it as a follow up to more recent techniques). Okay, I have a deadline to get some work done. I will mention again a great, free resource for ornithological research for those interested, SORA: http://elibrary.unm.edu/sora/search.php -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat(AT)villagecorner.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 2:08pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Look for a rock climber. My own family rock climber is in California so = I can't volunteer him. However, he has used his rapelling gear for such = things as roofing a very steep roof in San Francisco successfully. Sally Scheer Rogers City MI Shore of Lake Huron Presque Isle County ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Diane Pruden=20 To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20 Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: [birders] Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update I just spoke with Kevin at the Oakwoods Metro Park Nature Center and = received the following update on the owlet I posted about last night. The bird is now in the care of raptor rehabilitator Dave Hogan. The = bird is eating well and has even grown noticeably since yesterday! The = Nature Center is still looking for a person to return the bird to the = nest - 60' up an old oak with no lower limbs and no access for motorized = equipment. Mama owl is back on the nest so perhaps there is another = nestling. If they can't get the bird back in the nest, Dave knows of a = rehabber with female owls who may be able to serve as a surrogate = mother. Apparently some owls will accept other babies if the = introduction is done at the right time. The future of this owlet seems much more hopeful today. Diane Pruden Milford --- * birders FAQ - = http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing = site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To = unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to = lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject = line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] re: returning robins From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 3:16pm I never thought of your posts as curmudgeonly, Julie. But then all the men in my family were seen that way by outsiders and I knew them as kind, gentle, and adoring. I have no use for factoids based on nothing. I joined this list because it was recommended by a very intelligent person and seems to be populated by a chunk of the intelligencia. So your contributions are the kind of thing I came for. Besides - having graduated from Oberlin in the raucous Sixties, impassioned discussion and the demand for viable facts seem quite normal. Thanks for all you do, Cendra Lynn A2 -----Original Message----- From: Julie Craves [mailto:jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 11:33 AM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] re: returning robins Sorry, I'm going to keep at this... I banded a pair of Carolina Wrens in my yard several years ago. One winter, they came to my office window, where I would put out mealworms and waxworms for them, something I began just for them as it was a harsh winter. Come nesting season, they disappeared, and we didn't see wrens again in the yard until one or two winters later. Once again, it was two birds, and they made their presence known by landing on my office windowsill, although I had not put out any worms for many months. Guess what? They were new wrens. Had I not banded the original two, I would have sworn these were the same birds I had fed before. I'm not trying to be a jerk, so let me explain my position. I don't have the time to correct all factual errors that appear in this forum. However, I think one purpose of this list is to share and educate each other about birds. Certainly public education is part of my job. Many people on this list do not have the access to scientific literature, or the background or motivation to assimilate it, that I do. There are many common, persistent, misconceptions about birds (or ecology). When something along these lines pops up and I can address it, I do so, since ignoring it means I have passed up a valuable opportunity to help people think about the world around them in new and different ways (I hope!). I sometimes do this with reluctance. Part of my job also depends on the goodwill and support of the community, and representing the University in a positive way. I hope that my wet-blanket posts do not seem too curmudgeonly and are taken in the spirit in which they are intended -- opening windows and not closing doors. > I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the > afternoon i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off > the cage bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms > went with it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and > eager to get these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let the > robins and jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their > perpetually hungry families. > One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the > spring if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would > hang about conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would > go out with his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought > off the starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if > I was working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and make > a great racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him very > reliably. He came back for seven years, the year he didn't return was > very sad. > Sherri Smith -- Julie A. Craves Rouge River Bird Observatory University of Michigan-Dearborn Dearborn, MI 48128 http://www.rrbo.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 3:24pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Call a forester. Bill Lawrence used to be A2 City Forester. I've watched his son strap on spikes and climbing equipment and just walk up trees. He's in the book, but contact me if you hit a wall. Cendra Lynn A2 _____ From: Sally K Scheer [mailto:winerat(AT)villagecorner.com] Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 2:09 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Re: Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update Look for a rock climber. My own family rock climber is in California so I can't volunteer him. However, he has used his rapelling gear for such things as roofing a very steep roof in San Francisco successfully. Sally Scheer Rogers City MI Shore of Lake Huron Presque Isle County ----- Original Message ----- From: Diane <mailto:dianepruden(AT)gmail.com> Pruden To: birders(AT)umich.edu Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:57 PM Subject: [birders] Oakwoods Metro Park Owlet Update I just spoke with Kevin at the Oakwoods Metro Park Nature Center and received the following update on the owlet I posted about last night. The bird is now in the care of raptor rehabilitator Dave Hogan. The bird is eating well and has even grown noticeably since yesterday! The Nature Center is still looking for a person to return the bird to the nest - 60' up an old oak with no lower limbs and no access for motorized equipment. Mama owl is back on the nest so perhaps there is another nestling. If they can't get the bird back in the nest, Dave knows of a rehabber with female owls who may be able to serve as a surrogate mother. Apparently some owls will accept other babies if the introduction is done at the right time. The future of this owlet seems much more hopeful today. Diane Pruden Milford --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 5:26pm My 1912 issue of "Michigan Bird Life" Prof. Walter B. Barrows Michigan Agriculture College (MSU) devotes 5 full pages (722 to 727) to American Robins. > Synonyms, Technical description, distribution, migration habits, habitat, nesting, food, contents of stomachs, voice, song etc. Some notations, comments, excerpts going back to 1880s & 1890s! Very thorough, technical and very impressive! Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julie Craves" <jcraves(AT)umd.umich.edu> To: <birders(AT)umich.edu> Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 2:59 PM Subject: [birders] Re: local robins back - long, science-y >> I read 25+ years ago that because robins are so common, no one much >> studies >> them. At that time nothing was known about them other than the color of >> their eggs, how many they laid, how they built their nests, and when. > > This is erroneous. Researchers are often more likely to pick common birds > simply because they are common. > > A quick search of "American Robin" in Google Scholar and the Searchable > Ornithological Research Archive revealed 540 hits of papers, etc. > published prior to 1978. I got over 2000 hits for things published since. > > -- > Julie A. Craves > Rouge River Bird Observatory > University of Michigan-Dearborn > Dearborn, MI 48128 > > http://www.rrbo.org > > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow From: "Russell Emmons" <birdeland(AT)pasty.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 5:46pm From the observations of this I've seen personally and heard about it seems a territorial or even "personal space" thing. Sparrows feeding on the ground near Grackles got too close to the "choice" area the Grackle(s) were and it lashed out. Yes I've seen evidence of them nest raiding also. Seems more the males do all this. Testosterone? (the most dangerous chemical in the world!) The pecking of the backs of heads out is apparently the most standard method used. Lest we forget House Sparrows notorious raiding of Bluebird, Tree Swallow, Chickadees and even Purple Martin nest boxes and viciously pecking out brains of the incubating female. This is why the House Sparrows bad reputation. I don't know if Starlings though do this even though they are strong nest site ursurpers. Fred? House Wrens are known to actually toss out eggs or peck holes in those of the above mentioned nesters. Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Neubig" <rneubig(AT)med.umich.edu> To: <birders(AT)umich.edu> Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 9:55 AM Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow Last spring I saw a red-bellied woodpecker very methodically march up to a gnatcatcher nest in the Arb and snatch the baby out - while the parent was flying at the woodpecker repeatedly to chase it away but to no avail. Rick Rick Neubig RNeubig(AT)umich.edu Department of Pharmacology University of Michigan Phone (734) 764-8165 FAX (734) 763-4450 Personal web site http://warbler.med.umich.edu Center for Chemical Genomics http://lsi.umich.edu/ccg >>> "Santner, Steven" <santners(AT)karmanos.org> 03/27/08 8:06 AM >>> Bob: Along with Blue Jays and crows and possibly even cuckoos (I saw one chase an adult goldfinch once) and maybe others. Steve Santner -----Original Message----- From: Bob Bethune [mailto:poihths(AT)comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 9:42 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow So, grackles join hawks and shrikes in the passerine-eaters club? Bob Bethune Freshwater Seas http://www.freshwaterseas.com -----Original Message----- From: Penny [mailto:Jumpthroughhoops(AT)yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2008 8:55 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] RE: song sparrow I have seen Grackles attack and kill sparrows in my backyard. The pigeons without heads looked like they died in a similar manner to the headless sparrows - decapitated. I couldn't figure out what was killing them until I actually saw it happen a few times. As near as I can figure out, it's to reduce competition for food at feeders. It's odd because they usually even eat side by side on the ground. Then.....it's like something sets them off. One year I had so many it was getting disgusting. 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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Tree Swallows & E. Phoebe From: PATRICK BAIZE <pkbaize(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 4:10pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Saw 2 Tree Swallows flying over a pond at the corners of Howlett Rd. and M36 in Unidilla Twp. also had first of the year E. Poebe singing out behind work about a week later than last year. Pat --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: returning robins From: max <biwer(AT)witchmail.zzn.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 8:25pm An information sheet published by The Raptor Trust, a wildlife rehabilitation center in New Jersey, lists maximum known ages of wild birds from banding data. The American Robin is listed at 13 years. Max At 11:03 AM 3/27/2008, you wrote: >I used to raise lots of baby wild birds at home. Late in the >afternoon i would clean their cages and take the dirty astroturf off >the cage bottoms and take it outside to wash off. lots of meal worms >went with it. The neighbor hood birds were also raising babies and >eager to get these worms. I would scare off the starlings and let >the robins and jays collect the worms and take them off to feed their >perpetually hungry families. >One off the male robins got my number. When he came back in the >spring if the weather turned snowy and impossible for him, he would >hang about conspicuously, where I couldn't help but see him. I would >go out with his meal worms which he would eat while I noisily fought >off the starlings. This happened frequently. Later in the spring if >I was working in the yard, he would come down to a low branch and >make a great racket so I would notice him. I'd go get worms for him >very reliably. He came back for seven years, the year he didn't >return was very sad. >Sherri Smith > >--- >* birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html >* photo sharing site - >http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html >* To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to >lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the >Subject line. To >resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] more returning birds From: Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu> Date: 27 Mar 2008 9:42pm i answer the phone for Washtenaw Audubon and get some amazing calls. a few years ago a woman called me and said that every year she plants dusty miller and while she is right there planting them, every year a nuthatch comes and takes leaves to line its nest. (If you don't know plants, dusty miller has small silver leaves with deep soft velvety surfaces on both sides. It would make fine nest lining.) I already thought this was a remarkable story. (Surely the same nuthatch) then she said that this year when she was planting her dusty miller and the nuthatch wastaking leaves, a nearby robin noticed the nuthatch's activity, brightened right up, and came over and took a whole plant. Sherri Smith --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] From Ohio Birds - BIRDERS URGENTLY NEEDED TO TRACK RUSTY BLACKBIRD MIGRATION From: "Vincent Ste-Marie" <v_ste.marie(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:00pm Subject: Bird Watchers Urgently Needed to Track Rusty Blackbirds From: "Bennett, Gregory" <gbennett AT AKRON.K12.OH.US> Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 16:03:47 -0400 The following is from http://ebird.org/content/ebird/index.html Peace, Gregory Bennett Cuyahoga Falls OH Bird Watchers Urgently Needed to Track Rusty Blackbirds March 26, 2008 Populations of Rusty Blackbirds are crashing! Their numbers have plummeted by as much as 85-98% over the last few decades, according to data gathered for the North American Breeding Bird Survey and Christmas Bird Count between 1966 and 2006. Your data can help save this species by arming scientists with information about these birds during migration. Bird watchers across North America are being asked to help scientists track migrating Rusty Blackbirds from April 1-7 using the eBird online checklist program. Note: Your observations from outside this time frame are also sorely needed, so please enter any and all Rusty Blackbird records into eBird if possible! A century ago, the Rusty Blackbird was an incredibly abundant bird. Accounts from the period detail spectacular spring migrations between the species' wintering grounds in the bottomland forests of the southeastern United States and its breeding grounds in the forested wetlands of North America's vast boreal forest. Ornithological reports from New England and southern Canada describe waves of tens to hundreds of thousands of Rusty Blackbirds blackening the earth and clouding the sky in the spring. In many communities, the migration of Rusty Blackbirds was likened to the year's first chorus of tree frog--a sign that spring had finally arrived in the thawing countryside. Today these reports seem unbelievable since Rusty Blackbirds populations have suffered one of most staggering population declines of any bird in North America. An understanding of the Rusty Blackbird's habitat requirements is urgently needed to conserve its remaining populations. This is especially true during spring migration when Rusty Blackbirds congregate in large flocks which may be particularly vulnerable to habitat losses, blackbird control programs, or other disturbances. Unfortunately, very little is known about the natural history requirements of the Rusty Blackbird during its northward migration. To address this information gap, eBird is calling on bird watchers for help. April 1-7, look for Rusty Blackbirds on their northward migration. The data collected will help identify important migration stopover locations and habitats for conservation and will help researchers examine whether long-term changes to key migration habitats are responsible for the species' decline. If you are interested in participating, please collect the following information, then submit your data to eBird, taking note of the following: 1. Date, time, location of the observations. Area, traveling and stationary counts are preferred. Be as precise as possible when mapping your location. 2. Rusty Blackbird flock size, including an estimate of number of males vs. females. Answer 'yes' to the question 'do you want to report age/sex or add species comments' at the top of the eBird checklist page. 3. General behavior: flying, feeding, loafing (day), roosting (dawn, dusk, night). Put these in the species comments field. 4. Habitat: agricultural field, scrub-shrub wetland, forested wetland, shores of rivers or creeks, shores of lakes or ponds. Put these in general checklist comments field. 5. Comments: Please include "Rusty Blackbird Survey" in the general checklist comments section so we can determine whether you were specifically looking for Rusty Blackbirds during your birding expedition. 6. If possible please submit a complete checklist of the birds you identified on your outing, and answer 'yes' to the 'are you reporting all the species you saw/heard' question on the eBird checklist page. This will give us an idea of what other birds were in the area, as well as whether or not Rusty Blackbirds were associating with other blackbirds species during migration. ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: listowner AT ohiobirds.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] northern sightings From: "Sally K Scheer" <winerat(AT)villagecorner.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:11pm Monday, March 24, I saw four northern shovellers flying north across the entrance to the Rogers City marina. Today March 27, I saw several groups of common goldeneys also flying north along our beach (Lake Huron, 20 miles north of Rogers City). Both male and female as far as I could tell. Relating all this by cell phone to my husband stuck down below as I walked the beach, I was treated to an eagle flyover. I've seen two pairs of eagles, one at each "end" of the beach, for the past several years. I saw a first year eagle with the northern end ones pair about three years ago. Not sure where this one decided to make his permanent home but he was sighted about a half mile north of our place last year. I've also had three red breasted nuthatches, two white breasted nuthatches, downy woodpecker, hairy woodpecker, chickadees (several), tufted titmouse, and mourning doves at the feeders on the deck. Sally Scheer Rogers City MI Shore of Lake Huron Presque Isle County --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: more returning birds From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> Date: 27 Mar 2008 10:38pm Members of the genus Artemisia (which includes Dusty Miller as well as tarragon and sagebrush) have some interesting aromatic oils in their tissues. I wonder if perhaps certain bird species to have figured out that inclusion of these plant materials in a nest acts as a repellant or other means of controlling nest parasites such as mites. A quick Google search lead to at least one article that seemed to at least obliquely indicate that this might be the case: search "artemisia and nest" at Google and scroll down to Ted R. Anderson's "Biology of the Ubiquitous House Sparrow: From Genes to Populations". Dan S-J --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: White-winged Scoters, Marine City From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 27 Mar 2008 11:43pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I looked up phragmites: any of several tall grasses of the genus Phragmites, having plumed heads, growing in marshy areas, esp. the common reed P. australis (or P. communis). Why is it good that they've been cut? Cendra Lynn OWS, A2 _____ From: Russell Emmons [mailto:birdeland(AT)pasty.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2008 4:52 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] White-winged Scoters, Marine City I've just posted on umich birders Grove Street album a photo of 1 of 2 White-winged Scoters I spotted WAY out on the St.Clair River yesterday just off downtown Marine City. The pic is small but discernible. (No digiscope or big lense.) Sorry about the late post. Also on this jaunt along the river and over to the St. Johns Marsh, Anchor Bay, a few other noteworthy species were the expected Common Mergansers, Buffleheads, Canvasbacks, Redheads, Mallards, Canada Geese, Swans, Great Blue Heron (only 1) Killdeer (only a few) Ring-billed Gulls, Red-tail Hawks (2), Rough-legged Hawk, and hundreds of Red-winged Blackbirds, Grackles, Brown-Headed Cowbirds, Starlings each and I suspected a few Rusty Blackbirds mixed in the hordes. Conspicuous by their absence were Pied-billed Grebes and American Coots, Greater-Black Backed Gulls, Bonapartes Gulls! Spring is just not happening up this way. Today blizzard like conditions, high winds, more snow! The Belle River, adjoining creeks, the St. Johns Marsh/St. Clair Flats are still mostly froze over! Anchor Bay mostly also with many ice-fisherman still way out there fishing! We noted still several dead ducks out on the ice floes along our way! Vast areas of Phragmites have been cut in the marsh by someone. I assume the DNR? I say Hooray finally! Keep it up there is MUCH more to be done! Russ Emmons, Casco Twp. St. Clair county --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----

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