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Subject: [birders] Horned Grebe
From: mck426(AT)comcast.net
Date: 21 Apr 2008 12:51am
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Greetings fellow bird fans!
I uploaded a picture of a Horned Grebe I saw at Crane Creek on Saturday, to the
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Enjoy!
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Subject: [birders] : RE: Mealworms for Blue Birds
From: "Maynard Sumner" <m-r-sumner(AT)juno.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 2:23am
Diane,
You can go to Reptile Food at www.reptilefood.com to get mealworms
and if you click on the link "Michigan Bluebird Society" and place your order
they will give us a quarterly donation.
To find out more about Bluebirds go to www.michiganbluebirds.org
Maynard Sumner
Flint, MI
I would appreciate receiving information about good local sources for live meal
worms. Also, does anyone have an Internet or mail order source to recommend?
Thanks.
Diane Pruden
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Subject: [birders] RE: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
From: "makielb(AT)excite.com" <makielb@excite.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 6:03am
It's an adult broad-wing in poor-contrasting light.
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Subject: [birders] Philippine Bird ID Help...
From: Scott Manly <manlyrs(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 6:29am
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Returned Friday from a 3-week mission trip to the Philippines. While there=
, I saw about 60 lifers (actually, disappointingly low -- later discovered =
that the Philippines are in an "ecological meltdown").
=20
But while I was there, I saw a red bird that was not in the field guide for=
Filippino birds we brought. It was about the size of the Eurasian Tree Sp=
arrows it was hanging out with (under a large Mango tree), and reminded muc=
h of the Summer Tanager, though deeper red (slightly on the purple side) wi=
th darker wings than body.
=20
Could anyone help me identify this bird?
=20
Thanks,
Good birding,
Scott Manly,
Ionia, MI
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Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 7:38am
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Matt,
This is almost certainly a dark morph Broad-winged Hawk, which is very =
rare (I've seen three in my life, all at hawk watches in the fall).
Allen T. Chartier
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From: Matthew Valencic=20
To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20
Sent: Sunday, April 20, 2008 10:48 PM
Subject: [birders] Uncertain Hawk I.D.
I would like some help with this hawk =
(http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk) seen and =
photographed today east of Cleveland, OH. It was taking off near our =
home and continued to spiral upward as it slowly made its way to the =
north. The sky was that high-overcast condition that makes most things =
look like a silhouette. It did not make any calls while I was watching =
and photographing it.
=20
The banded tail (note minor white band close to the body) and dark =
wings (are they dark because of the background?) suggest a Zone-tailed =
Hawk or possibly a Common Black Hawk (the minor white band closer to the =
body is not shown by Sibley for the Black Hawk).
=20
The wings are more like a Rough-legged ("relatively long-winged" =
according to Sibley) or Zone-tailed than a Common Black Hawk ("extremely =
broad wings" according to Sibley). The Broad-winged Hawk has a banded =
tail but the wings are supposed to have more white on the lower surface.
=20
I'm not well versed in hawks but I gave it a good run (thank goodness =
for Google).
=20
My guess - mostly because of the normal range of these different hawks =
- would be Dark Morph Rough-legged Hawk.
=20
Your thoughts????
=20
Matt Valencic
Chagrin Falls, OH
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Subject: [birders] Dark hawk identified
From: "Matthew Valencic" <mmvalencic(AT)adelphia.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 7:55am
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Well, the very experienced (EXPERT) birders have weighed in and the
unanimous agreement is Dark Morph Broad Wing and supposedly very rare!
Thanks to all of you for your help.
For those who did not look at the pictures you can find them at
http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk.
Regards,
Matt Valencic
Chagrin Falls, OH
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Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
From: w8liftr40(AT)aol.com
Date: 21 Apr 2008 7:56am
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Greetings Birders,
I have to agree with Mike K. If you look at the 5 & 6 photos (where the bird=
is larger in the frame), you can make out the barring in the breast and sid=
es of the bird and see the darker head in contrast to the barring in the bre=
ast--making this an adult light morph Broad-wing. =C2=A0Adult dark morph Bro=
ad-wings will not show this trait. They are dark and show no barring in the=20=
brest like adult light morphs.=C2=A0
The dark contrast of the shot and poor lighting conditions make the bird loo=
k darker.
This could be enhanced by the bird being a heavily marked light morph.
I have seen many Broad-wings that looked like dark morphs at first, because=20=
of bad lighting and the bird being more pronouncedly marked.
Jeff Schultz
www.wildtangentphotography.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Valencic <mmvalencic(AT)adelphia.net>
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:48 pm
Subject: [birders] Uncertain Hawk I.D.
I would like some help with this hawk (http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic=
/UnknownHawk) seen and photographed today east of Cleveland, OH.=C2=A0 It wa=
s taking off near our home and continued to spiral upward as it slowly made=20=
its way to the north.=C2=A0 The sky was that high-overcast condition that ma=
kes most things look like a silhouette. =C2=A0It did not make any calls whil=
e I was watching and photographing it.
=C2=A0
The banded tail (note minor white band close to the body) and dark wings (ar=
e they dark because of the background?) suggest a Zone-tailed Hawk or possib=
ly a Common Black Hawk (the minor white band closer to the body is not shown=
by Sibley for the Black Hawk).
=C2=A0
The wings are more like a Rough-legged (=E2=80=9Crelatively long-winged=E2=
=80=9D according to Sibley) or Zone-tailed than a Common Black Hawk (=E2=80=
=9Cextremely broad wings=E2=80=9D according to Sibley). =C2=A0The Broad-wing=
ed Hawk has a banded tail but the wings are supposed to have more white on t=
he lower surface.
=C2=A0
I=E2=80=99m not well versed in hawks but I gave it a good run (thank goodnes=
s for Google).
=C2=A0
My guess =E2=80=93 mostly because of the normal range of these different haw=
ks =E2=80=93 would be Dark Morph Rough-legged Hawk.
=C2=A0
Your thoughts????
=C2=A0
Matt Valencic
Chagrin Falls, OH
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Subject: [birders] Sunday Yard Birds
From: "LaHaie, Ivan J." <ivan.lahaie(AT)gd-ais.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:17am
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Had a yellow-throated vireo, blue-gray gnatcatcher, and brown thrasher
singing in the yard yesterday (along with all the usual suspects) while
my wife was cutting my hair.
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Beats the heck out of anything in a barber shop!
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Ivan
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Subject: [birders] whippoorwill
From: Jan Berry <jeberry(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:23am
This morning a little before 6 AM heard a whippoorwill calling in
Cherry Hill Nature Preserve in Superior Township. According to my
calendar, this is about a week earlier than my first spring record.
Jan B
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Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:40am
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I have a hard time believing that the darkness would appear so =
consistently at all angles as the bird circled. This is not a typical =
light morph Broad-wing, but I could be persuaded to Jeff's suggestion of =
a heavily marked light morph (or a lightly marked dark morph :-)
Allen T. Chartier
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From: w8liftr40(AT)aol.com=20
To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
Greetings Birders,
I have to agree with Mike K. If you look at the 5 & 6 photos (where =
the bird is larger in the frame), you can make out the barring in the =
breast and sides of the bird and see the darker head in contrast to the =
barring in the breast--making this an adult light morph Broad-wing. =
Adult dark morph Broad-wings will not show this trait. They are dark and =
show no barring in the brest like adult light morphs.=20
The dark contrast of the shot and poor lighting conditions make the =
bird look darker.
This could be enhanced by the bird being a heavily marked light morph.
I have seen many Broad-wings that looked like dark morphs at first, =
because of bad lighting and the bird being more pronouncedly marked.
Jeff Schultz
www.wildtangentphotography.com
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From: Matthew Valencic <mmvalencic(AT)adelphia.net>
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:48 pm
Subject: [birders] Uncertain Hawk I.D.
I would like some help with this hawk =
(http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk) seen and =
photographed today east of Cleveland, OH. It was taking off near our =
home and continued to spiral upward as it slowly made its way to the =
north. The sky was that high-overcast condition that makes most things =
look like a silhouette. It did not make any calls while I was watching =
and photographing it.
The banded tail (note minor white band close to the body) and dark =
wings (are they dark because of the background?) suggest a Zone-tailed =
Hawk or possibly a Common Black Hawk (the minor white band closer to the =
body is not shown by Sibley for the Black Hawk).
The wings are more like a Rough-legged (=E2=80=9Crelatively =
long-winged=E2=80=9D according to Sibley) or Zone-tailed than a Common =
Black Hawk (=E2=80=9Cextremely broad wings=E2=80=9D according to =
Sibley). The Broad-winged Hawk has a banded tail but the wings are =
supposed to have more white on the lower surface.
I=E2=80=99m not well versed in hawks but I gave it a good run (thank =
goodness for Google).
My guess =E2=80=93 mostly because of the normal range of these =
different hawks =E2=80=93 would be Dark Morph Rough-legged Hawk.
Your thoughts????
Matt Valencic
Chagrin Falls, OH
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Subject: [birders] FW: [Ohio-birds] Dark hawk identified
From: "Matthew Valencic" <mmvalencic(AT)adelphia.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:44am
Here are Kenn Kaufman's comments regarding the hawk.
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From: Ohio birds [mailto:OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU] On Behalf Of Kenn
Kaufman
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:19 AM
To: OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU
Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Dark hawk identified
The bird is a Broad-winged Hawk, yes, but it's not of the dark morph. The
dark appearance in the photos is apparently just a silhouette effect of
seeing the bird against the very bright sky. Look at the photos carefully,
especially the sixth one in the series, and you can clearly see patterning
of dark barring on the paler background of the underparts. Dark-morph adult
Broad-wings are uniformly dark on the underside of the body. Thanks for
posting these photos; they're very instructive for showing the variation in
wing posture for Broad-wings in flight, and for showing how apparent colors
in photographs can be misleading.
Kenn Kaufman
Rocky Ridge, Ohio
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From: "Matthew Valencic" <mmvalencic(AT)ADELPHIA.NET>
To: <OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU>
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:55 AM
Subject: [Ohio-birds] Dark hawk identified
> Well, the very experienced (EXPERT) birders have weighed in and the
> unanimous agreement is Dark Morph Broad Wing and supposedly very rare!
>
>
>
> Thanks to all of you for your help.
>
>
>
> For those who did not look at the pictures you can find them at
> http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Matt Valencic
>
> Chagrin Falls, OH
>
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Subject: [birders] Re: Philippine Bird ID Help...
From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:48am
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Scott,
The species that comes most readily to my mind is Red Avadavat, which is =
fairly common throughout Indonesia and widely introduced in east Asia. =
The illustration of this species in the Oxford Press field guide is not =
that great.
Allen T. Chartier
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You may wonder how it weighs the food.=20
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To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20
Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 6:29 AM
Subject: [birders] Philippine Bird ID Help...
Returned Friday from a 3-week mission trip to the Philippines. While =
there, I saw about 60 lifers (actually, disappointingly low -- later =
discovered that the Philippines are in an "ecological meltdown").
=20
But while I was there, I saw a red bird that was not in the field =
guide for Filippino birds we brought. It was about the size of the =
Eurasian Tree Sparrows it was hanging out with (under a large Mango =
tree), and reminded much of the Summer Tanager, though deeper red =
(slightly on the purple side) with darker wings than body.
=20
Could anyone help me identify this bird?
=20
Thanks,
Good birding,
Scott Manly,
Ionia, MI
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Subject: [birders] Four Mile Lake goodies, CSGA, Washtenaw 4/21AM
From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 9:23am
It was a fairly hopping morning at the Chelsea State Game Area's marl-pit
parking area (at the end of the lane that heads west from the Four Mile
Lake access drive off of Dexter/Chelsea Rd):
1 singing Blue-headed Vireo
2 singing Common Yellowthroats
3-4 singing Yellow Warblers
1 quietly "k'dik-ing" Virginia Rail
and just as a reminder that it is still April:
2 American Tree Sparrows
Dan S-J
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Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
From: "The Farmers" <ajf-jlf(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 9:14am
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Matt,
I bring no personal expertise to this question. Rather, I'm using your =
photos and the comments of Alan, Jeff, and Mike K. (whose message has =
not yet reached me) to educate myself on a hawk I rarely see. Doing so, =
I've turned also to my copies of Sibley and the Peterson Gude to the =
Hawks. I'm struck with the great similarity between your pic # 6 and =
the photo at top left on page 136 in Peterson's Hawks. I can easily =
make them the same bird, with yours having been seen in only slightly =
less light that the Peterson photo.
Thanks for sharing some good pictures and stimulating this discussion.
John
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:40 AM
Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
I have a hard time believing that the darkness would appear so =
consistently at all angles as the bird circled. This is not a typical =
light morph Broad-wing, but I could be persuaded to Jeff's suggestion of =
a heavily marked light morph (or a lightly marked dark morph :-)
Allen T. Chartier
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Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:56 AM
Subject: [birders] Re: Uncertain Hawk I.D.
Greetings Birders,
I have to agree with Mike K. If you look at the 5 & 6 photos (where =
the bird is larger in the frame), you can make out the barring in the =
breast and sides of the bird and see the darker head in contrast to the =
barring in the breast--making this an adult light morph Broad-wing. =
Adult dark morph Broad-wings will not show this trait. They are dark and =
show no barring in the brest like adult light morphs.=20
The dark contrast of the shot and poor lighting conditions make the =
bird look darker.
This could be enhanced by the bird being a heavily marked light =
morph.
I have seen many Broad-wings that looked like dark morphs at first, =
because of bad lighting and the bird being more pronouncedly marked.
Jeff Schultz
www.wildtangentphotography.com
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From: Matthew Valencic <mmvalencic(AT)adelphia.net>
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Sent: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 10:48 pm
Subject: [birders] Uncertain Hawk I.D.
I would like some help with this hawk =
(http://picasaweb.google.com/mvalencic/UnknownHawk) seen and =
photographed today east of Cleveland, OH. It was taking off near our =
home and continued to spiral upward as it slowly made its way to the =
north. The sky was that high-overcast condition that makes most things =
look like a silhouette. It did not make any calls while I was watching =
and photographing it.
The banded tail (note minor white band close to the body) and dark =
wings (are they dark because of the background?) suggest a Zone-tailed =
Hawk or possibly a Common Black Hawk (the minor white band closer to the =
body is not shown by Sibley for the Black Hawk).
The wings are more like a Rough-legged (=E2=80=9Crelatively =
long-winged=E2=80=9D according to Sibley) or Zone-tailed than a Common =
Black Hawk (=E2=80=9Cextremely broad wings=E2=80=9D according to =
Sibley). The Broad-winged Hawk has a banded tail but the wings are =
supposed to have more white on the lower surface.
I=E2=80=99m not well versed in hawks but I gave it a good run (thank =
goodness for Google).
My guess =E2=80=93 mostly because of the normal range of these =
different hawks =E2=80=93 would be Dark Morph Rough-legged Hawk.
Your thoughts????
Matt Valencic
Chagrin Falls, OH
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Subject: [birders] Louisiana Waterthrush--Iosco Co.--Late Post
From: mcganser(AT)aol.com
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:17am
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On Friday 4/18/08, Sue Malski found a Louisiana Waterthrush near the mouth of
the Pine River in Iosco Co.? The bird was not relocated the next day.? To see
Sue's excellent photos of this bird click on the? addresses below:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430492735/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431306004/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431305800/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430492261/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430492025/
Fred McDonald
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Subject: [birders] Re: Speaking of Bluejays..
From: "Mag Tait" <mtait(AT)med.umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:22am
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I have had nesting BlueJays in the woods next to my yard for the last few =
years and I think, from their behavior, may have an additional nest in the =
trees on the opposite side of my yard. They only eat the corn I put out =
for the squirrels and deer in the winter usually, though for a few years I =
had one that would bend himself into a V to perch on my sunflower seed =
domed feeder.=20
I would say we have more now than a few years ago.=20
I have never had them pestering other birds but they do yell at me when I =
hang clothes on the "solar dryer" that is at the edge of the yard and one =
was muttering at my dogs and I as we ate on the deck last week.
Mag
>>> <WovenWoman(AT)aol.com> 4/20/2008 11:51 PM >>>
Speaking of BlueJays.....
=20
I have noticed that I have very few over the last five years. Is this =
just an East Dearborn thing? I used to have them at my feeders badgering =
the other birds daily, spending lots of time in the back, calling from the =
top of my TV antenna, now its a rarity for them to show at all. I offer =
the same seed, the same feeder, and if anything have added on, but not so =
much as to interfere (at least I hope not)
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thought might be chickadees. They were hopping around my bushes and then =
went up into a tree. I finally triangulated in on the sound, and it was =
this little bird making what I had thought was a variation on a blue jay =
call. I thought the bird was a black capped chickadee. I am apparently =
wrong on both counts.
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note first, a round clear tone. (A fourth is four notes apart, like from =
C go G; the first 3 notes of "Taps" would be C-C-G.)
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Subject: [birders] OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: mcganser(AT)aol.com
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:36am
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Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I happened upon a
very early yellow flower.? It's dandilion-like flower is held about 4-5 inches
off the ground on stalks covered with wine colored scale like leaves.? I have
never seen this flower before nor had 2 other local amateur naturalist.? This
flower is blooming way ahead of most spring wildflowers since the only other
wildflower in bloom?in that neck of?the woods?is skunk cabbage.?? I wasn't able
to find the flower in the Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook Guide
to Michigan Wildflowers.? I suspect the plant is an escapee from horticulture or
a new alien species.? Interestingly, I passed an enbankment supporting an
overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that had been planted with a blooming
yellow flower of similar statue.? Any help with the ID would be appreciated.?
For pictures go to:
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http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/
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Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: Joshua Haas <joshuahaas(AT)msn.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:43am
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Looks like Coltsfoot. Anyone else have oppinions???
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In Coltsfoot, it appears the flower comes out first and later on, large lea=
ves will come out.
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, 21 Apr 2008 10:36:57 -0400From: mcganser(AT)aol.comLast weekend while walkin=
g the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I happened upon a very early yellow flo=
wer. It's dandilion-like flower is held about 4-5 inches off the ground on=
stalks covered with wine colored scale like leaves. I have never seen thi=
s flower before nor had 2 other local amateur naturalist. This flower is b=
looming way ahead of most spring wildflowers since the only other wildflowe=
r in bloom in that neck of the woods is skunk cabbage. I wasn't able to f=
ind the flower in the Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook Guide =
to Michigan Wildflowers. I suspect the plant is an escapee from horticultu=
re or a new alien species. Interestingly, I passed an enbankment supportin=
g an overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that had been planted with a blo=
oming yellow flower of similar statue. Any help with the ID would be appre=
ciated. For pictures go to:http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/24305=
98015/http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/http://www.flick=
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Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: Larry Nooden <ldnum(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:52am
It is not coltsfoot, but it looks like a yellow variety of ice plant
(<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ice_Plant>;) to me.
--On Monday, April 21, 2008 10:43 AM -0400 Joshua Haas <joshuahaas(AT)msn.com>
wrote:
> Looks like Coltsfoot. Anyone else have oppinions???
>
> In Coltsfoot, it appears the flower comes out first and later on, large
> leaves will come out.
>
>
>
> Josh Haas
> 269-420-9918
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> Subject: [birders] OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:36:57 -0400
> From: mcganser(AT)aol.com
>
> Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I happened
> upon a very early yellow flower. It's dandilion-like flower is held
> about 4-5 inches off the ground on stalks covered with wine colored scale
> like leaves. I have never seen this flower before nor had 2 other local
> amateur naturalist. This flower is blooming way ahead of most spring
> wildflowers since the only other wildflower in bloom in that neck of the
> woods is skunk cabbage. I wasn't able to find the flower in the
> Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook Guide to Michigan
> Wildflowers. I suspect the plant is an escapee from horticulture or a
> new alien species. Interestingly, I passed an enbankment supporting an
> overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that had been planted with a
> blooming yellow flower of similar statue. Any help with the ID would be
> appreciated. For pictures go to:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430598015/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431411222/
>
> Fred McDonald
> St. Clair Shores
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Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: "Allen T. Chartier" <amazilia1(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:55am
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Josh,
I agree. I have seen Coltsfoot (Tussilago farfara) in bloom in April at =
the Highland SRA, Oakland Co. It is native to Eurasia, not North =
America.
Allen T. Chartier
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Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
Looks like Coltsfoot. Anyone else have oppinions???
=20
In Coltsfoot, it appears the flower comes out first and later on, =
large leaves will come out.
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Subject: [birders] OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:36:57 -0400
From: mcganser(AT)aol.com
Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I =
happened upon a very early yellow flower. It's dandilion-like flower is =
held about 4-5 inches off the ground on stalks covered with wine colored =
scale like leaves. I have never seen this flower before nor had 2 other =
local amateur naturalist. This flower is blooming way ahead of most =
spring wildflowers since the only other wildflower in bloom in that neck =
of the woods is skunk cabbage. I wasn't able to find the flower in the =
Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook Guide to Michigan =
Wildflowers. I suspect the plant is an escapee from horticulture or a =
new alien species. Interestingly, I passed an enbankment supporting an =
overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that had been planted with a =
blooming yellow flower of similar statue. Any help with the ID would be =
appreciated. For pictures go to:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430598015/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431411222/
Fred McDonald
St. Clair Shores=20
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Subject: [birders] Re: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 10:59am
It doesn't look like the 'typical' roadside coltsfoot species, but it
would not surprise me at all to discover that it is in the same genus
(Petasites); the flower arrangement and fleshy stem protuberances are
similar to those I've seen in cultivated Petasites (butterburr), although
on a much smaller scale.
Dan S-J
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Subject: [birders] road repairs in Nichols Arboretum
From: "Grese, Robert" <bgrese(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 11:33am
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Roger,=20
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I wanted to provide a little more information about the road repair in =
the Arboretum. Only the west portion of Nichols Drive between the stone =
bridge at the end of School Girls' Glen and the entrance from the lower =
parking lot will be closed in its entirety. The major portion of =
Nichols Drive from the river up to the stone bridge will remain open =
from the east and will allow visitors to walk along that portion of the =
road up to the bridge and the trail that leads through parts of School =
Girls' Glen to the Peony Garden area. =20
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Our repairs to Nichols Drive are not being done for ecological =
restoration purposes but for access and utilitarian reasons. This road =
provides essential access for service and emergency vehicles to the =
Arboretum and also provides critical maintenance access for the main =
sewer trunk line that runs through the Arboretum. Those vehicles cannot =
make the turns and twists of our other roads. =20
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You're absolutely right that nothing about this road and its access to =
the Arboretum is natural. The road is clearly an artificial construct =
and follows the bed of the Michigan Central Railroad which was =
originally laid on this side of the river in 1839. Drainage pipes =
collect seepage from the uphill side of the road and drain into the =
river. We are trying to mitigate the road repair's impact through =
planting the disturbed shoreline and areas along the road with native =
species. =20
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I apologize that this is happening now during the popular viewing time =
of the spring warbler migration in the Arboretum. We have a narrow =
opportunity in the early spring and late fall for doing this work when =
we can use live stakes of native willow, red osier dogwood, and other =
such shrubs in revegetating the disturbed portion of the shoreline. We =
had originally hoped to get this work done last fall. =20
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Thanks, Bob
=20
Robert E. Grese
Director
Matthaei Botanical Gardens and Nichols Arboretum, University of Michigan
1800 N. Dixboro Road, Ann Arbor, MI 48105-9406
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Associate Professor of Landscape Architecture
School of Natural Resources and Environment, University of Michigan
440 Church Street, Ann Arbor, MI 48109-1041
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734-763-0645
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From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com>
To: birders(AT)umich.edu
Subject: [birders] Development at Nichol's Arboretum in Ann Arbor
Date: Sat, 19 Apr 2008 11:43:03 -0400
Starting April 21 all of Nichol's Drive along the Huron River in the =
Arboretum will be closed to pedestrian traffic for river bank =
stabilization. I guess this work is all part of the effort to restore =
native ecosystems in the Arb, right?--Well actually no! Erosion is a =
natural force that shapes all riverine habitats over time. What is being =
done bank stabilization is designed to stop erosion and is an artificial =
intrusion into an environment. It shares many qualities with =
channelization and damming of rivers in that it prevents natural =
disturbance factors from working as they should. There is nothing =
natural about it.
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Also compliments on the timing of this bank stabilization development. =
It will be occurring right in the middle of Spring Migration in the Arb. =
Over the years a number of very good birds have been observed from =
Nichol's Drive which is to be shut down.
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Roger Kuhlman
Ann Arbor, Michigan
4/19/2008
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Subject: [birders] Re: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: Ann Zinn <annczinn(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 11:38am
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I would agree that this is ice plant. I googled it and found that it=20
comes both in magenta and yellow.
It grows in hot, dry areas (beaches!) and can be an invasive. See=20
http://www.nps.gov/archive/redw/iceplant.htm
for more information, or google "ice plant." It probably escaped from=20=
somebody's garden.
A. :-)
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:36 AM, mcganser(AT)aol.com wrote:
> Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I=20
> happened upon a very early yellow flower.=A0 It's dandilion-like =
flower=20
> is held about 4-5 inches off the ground on stalks covered with wine=20
> colored scale like leaves.=A0 I have never seen this flower before nor=20=
> had 2 other local amateur naturalist.=A0 This flower is blooming way=20=
> ahead of most spring wildflowers since the only other wildflower in=20
> bloom=A0in that neck of=A0the woods=A0is skunk cabbage.=A0=A0 I wasn't =
able to=20
> find the flower in the Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook=20=
> Guide to Michigan Wildflowers.=A0 I suspect the plant is an escapee =
from=20
> horticulture or a new alien species.=A0 Interestingly, I passed an=20
> enbankment supporting an overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that=20
> had been planted with a blooming yellow flower of similar statue.=A0 =
Any=20
> help with the ID would be appreciated.=A0 For pictures go to:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430598015/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/
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> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431411222/
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I would agree that this is ice plant. I googled it and found that it
comes both in magenta and yellow.
It grows in hot, dry areas (beaches!) and can be an invasive. See
http://www.nps.gov/archive/redw/iceplant.htm
for more information, or google "ice plant." It probably escaped from
somebody's garden.
A. :-)
On Apr 21, 2008, at 10:36 AM, mcganser(AT)aol.com wrote:
<excerpt>Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda,
I happened upon a very early yellow flower.=A0 It's dandilion-like
flower is held about 4-5 inches off the ground on stalks covered with
wine colored scale like leaves.=A0 I have never seen this flower before
nor had 2 other local amateur naturalist.=A0 This flower is blooming way
ahead of most spring wildflowers since the only other wildflower in
bloom=A0in that neck of=A0the woods=A0is skunk cabbage.=A0=A0 I wasn't =
able to
find the flower in the Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook
Guide to Michigan Wildflowers.=A0 I suspect the plant is an escapee from
horticulture or a new alien species.=A0 Interestingly, I passed an
enbankment supporting an overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that
had been planted with a blooming yellow flower of similar statue.=A0 Any
help with the ID would be appreciated.=A0 For pictures go to:
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Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
From: Larry Nooden <ldnum(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 11:42am
I should have mentioned that the leaves look too fleshy for coltsfoot, but
the flowers sure are similar in that view. Also, this is a pure sand
substratum, favored by iceplant but not coltsfoot.
--On Monday, April 21, 2008 10:55 AM -0400 "Allen T. Chartier"
<amazilia1(AT)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> Josh,
>
> I agree. I have seen Coltsfoot (Tussilago farfara) in bloom in April at
> the Highland SRA, Oakland Co. It is native to Eurasia, not North America.
>
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joshua Haas
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 10:43 AM
> Subject: [birders] RE: OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
>
> Looks like Coltsfoot. Anyone else have oppinions???
>
> In Coltsfoot, it appears the flower comes out first and later on, large
> leaves will come out.
>
>
>
> Josh Haas
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> __________________________________________________
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> Subject: [birders] OT: Wildflower (?) ID help
> Date: Mon, 21 Apr 2008 10:36:57 -0400
> From: mcganser(AT)aol.com
>
> Last weekend while walking the Lake Huron shore near Oscoda, I happened
> upon a very early yellow flower. It's dandilion-like flower is held
> about 4-5 inches off the ground on stalks covered with wine colored scale
> like leaves. I have never seen this flower before nor had 2 other local
> amateur naturalist. This flower is blooming way ahead of most spring
> wildflowers since the only other wildflower in bloom in that neck of the
> woods is skunk cabbage. I wasn't able to find the flower in the
> Peterson Guide to Wildflower nor the Cranbrook Guide to Michigan
> Wildflowers. I suspect the plant is an escapee from horticulture or a
> new alien species. Interestingly, I passed an enbankment supporting an
> overpass on I-75 near Mile marker 160 that had been planted with a
> blooming yellow flower of similar statue. Any help with the ID would be
> appreciated. For pictures go to:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430598015/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2430597903/
>
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/29127092@N00/2431411222/
>
> Fred McDonald
> St. Clair Shores
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Subject: [birders] Have you seen eBird lately?
From: pavlik(AT)comcast.net
Date: 21 Apr 2008 5:32pm
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Birders,
I first saw eBird www.ebird.com over a year ago and haven't paid much attention
to it until this past weekend. I have to say I'm very impressed. At it's core
it is a free checklist program. However, it does a lot of summarizing of data
and allows you to see distributions and other information. The checklist
portion is fairly robust for a free online tool. I created and uploaded a
spreadsheet from my Saturday sightings. While it was a little cumbersome at
first I quickly got the hang of it. It took me maybe 20 minutes to get things
in the correct format with my sightings. In the future I should be able to do
this in about 5 minutes. There is an easy to use online sightings entry page.
Pros:
- Free. Plus you are not bombarded with advertising and banners on the web
pages.
- Can upload data is a couple different formats. Some of the $100+ packages
don't provide a tool for this.
- Online interface for entering sightings that is about the easiest I've seen.
- Can report on your own data as well as anyone else that has submitted
sightings.
- You can access it anywhere you have an internet connection.
Cons:
- You can download your data but you have to submit a request, go to your e-mail
and access it via a link.
- Reporting is limited. You can't really create hit lists or some other
detailed reports you may want.
- Mostly built for the U.S. but expanding.
- Not portable. If you don't have an internet connection you can't use it.
Birdingonthe.net also integrates with the data from eBird. They now have a
Google Map with sightings. You can toggle off the Code 1 (very easy) birds.
I'm not sure how this works since there are many more sightings posted than what
shows on their maps but I'm sure its a 'work-in-progress'.
Anyway - it may be worth checking out.
Take care,
Tom Pavlik
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Subject: [birders] Follow up on Matt V's hawk question and
From: "The Farmers" <ajf-jlf(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 1:23pm
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First, I want to add Bruce to the folks I thanked when I added to the =
thread regarding Matt's hawk photos. I had missed his response when I =
wrote.
Next, I want to add to my earlier posting that a Cooper's Hawk is again =
at the nest that produced 5 young birds last year in my yard . I'm =
recording my observations of activity at and around the nest and would =
welcome suggestions of specific things that may be useful to look for. =20
Unfortunately, although I can see the nest from my study, I have no way =
to see inside it. After the trees leaf out, I'll have to find a new line =
of sight to see it all, but that was possible last year and will =
probably be the case again this summer, assuming that this nesting =
proceeds to fledging.=20
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Milan, MI
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Subject: [birders] Purple Martins
From: PATRICK BAIZE <pkbaize(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 2:25pm
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Today I saw 2-3 Martins at a martin house on Howlett Rd, Unidilla Twp,
Livingston County.
Pat B., Fowlerville Michigan
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Subject: [birders] Concerning John Farmer's Backyard Nesting Cooper's
Hawks
From: Alan Ryff <alryff(AT)sbcglobal.net>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 3:46pm
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John,
There is a wonderful book "The Cooper's Hawk: A Cross Timbers Chronicle," 463
pages, copyright 2000. It tells everything you will ever need to know about
the Cooper's Hawk. The author Vic McLearn is truly a talented writer. He is a
raptor freak and his favorite is the Cooper's Hawk. Read it. You won't regret
it.
Alan Ryff
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Subject: [birders] Chimney Swifts in Ann Arbor
From: "McKay, Timothy" <tamckay(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 7:54pm
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A small group of Chimney Swifts showed up this evening in Ann Arbor, =
settling in at the Burns Park School chimney for the night. This is =
about a week earlier than their return last year.
Tim McKay
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Subject: [birders] Chimney Swifts in Chelsea!
From: Pamm Hoskin <dexterdame(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 8:33pm
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Went out for lunch & heard the unmistakable chitter of chimney swifts! Look=
ed up & saw 2 overhead-it's finally Spring!
=20
Pamm from Dexter
along the Huron River
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Subject: [birders] american center marsh
From: james brown <j_brown4994(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 7:12pm
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<P>Saw a Virginia Rail monday night (7:00) at A.C.M. It was a few feet south of
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Subject: [birders] Harlequins in Port Huron
From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com>
Date: 21 Apr 2008 11:06pm
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I am passing this along - it was posted to the Blue Water Audubon yahoo group a
few minutes ago.? This sighting would have been Monday.
Pat Burden
Yale, MI
Hi All,
Just wanted to let you know that tonight while walking alone the St Clair river
in Port Huron I saw 6 Harlequins. Some were adults in breeding plumage. They
were just south of the water plant along Pine Grove Park where the Cost Guard
Cutter often docks.
I also saw a small group of long tail ducks half way across the river?straight
out from the water plant in the park.
Oh I missed the peregrines again.
Jack
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