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UMichBirders for Wednesday, May 7, 2008

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 Subject From Time 
 [birders] Summer Tanager  Pat Burden   12:32am 
 [birders] not a bird, but an early bug  Cendra  2:23am 
 [birders] Re: not a bird, but an early bug  Susan Falcone   6:37am 
 [birders] Re: ? some Bird ???  WovenWoman(AT)aol.com  7:25am 
 [birders] Prothonotary Warbler, Chelsea SGA, Washtenaw Co. 5/7AM  Dan Sparks-Jackson  9:29am 
 [birders] Wednesday Arb ALIVE!  makielb@excite.com  10:39am 
 [birders] IMBD Walk and Horseback Tour at Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge  Steve_Kahl(AT)fws.gov  11:32am 
 [birders] RE: Wednesday Arb ALIVE!  Ray Stocking  11:58am 
 [birders] A2 Landfill - N. Harrier and bobolink  Dave Borneman   9:14am 
 [birders] Neotropic Cormorant  Bruce M. Bowman  12:53pm 
 [birders] Advice on Choosing Binoculars  brucethayer1(AT)comcast  5:16pm 
 [birders] Tuesday Evening Birders field trip report, May 6, Washtenaw County  Mike Sefton   10:22am 
 [birders] RE: Advice on Choosing Binoculars  Bruce Robertson  1:28pm 
 [birders] RE: Advice on Choosing Binoculars  Steve Malson   1:32pm 
 [birders] Re: Advice on Choosing Binoculars  Ray Stocking  1:51pm 
 [birders] Re: Prothonotary Warbler, Chelsea SGA, Washtenaw Co. 5/7AM  Bob Arthurs   11:10am 
 [birders] Kentucky Warbler, White-eyed Viireo - Jackson County - PLU  Don Henise  2:13pm 
 [birders] FW: Killdeer on nest, St. Clair county  Cendra  2:35pm 
 [birders] Re: Advice on Choosing Binoculars  waynef(AT)provide.net  6:37pm 
 [birders] changes at Crane Creek/Magee Marsh  Bruce M. Bowman  3:32pm 
 [birders] Rain Birds in the Yard  Dave Sing   3:52pm 
 [birders] Swifts  Plynkny(AT)aol.com  5:39pm 
 [birders] Adray Camera at Magee Marsh this Saturday  JerSadowsk(AT)aol.com  11:14pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Summer Tanager From: Pat Burden <tallerpat(AT)aol.com> Date: 7 May 2008 12:32am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Today at our property in Melvin, we had a beautiful male Summer Tanager!? A friend took pictures which I should be able to post in a day or two.? If the bird continues, I will let you know. We have also had an odd female Grosbeak on the feeder for the past three days.? It has more markings for a Black-headed Grosbeak, but my feeling is that it might be a BHGB/RBGB cross.? I have posted photos on my Grove St. site: http://www.grovestreet.com/jsp/picview.jsp?album=88715 We have Rose-breasted Grosbeaks nesting, so I am very familiar with all of their plumages and this clear breasted bird really doesn't match any of them.? I did get a chance to see both this bird and the normal plumaged female Rose-breasted side by side (sorry didn't have the camera at that point) and there was certainly a difference in size, in wingbar markings, in breast color and streaking, in beak color, etc. Opinions that I have solicited seem to be weighing in as Black-headed or a cross.? This is not a normal female Rose-breasted by any means. I will post in a day or two if the Summer Tanager stays around.? If anyone is interested in coming up to see the Grosbeak, she normally comes to the feeder between 1 and 2 PM and then again between 4 and 5.? I must know that you are coming, so please call me at 810-387-3248 or 810-304-0916 before hand.? I will give directions when you call.? Early on Wednesday is not a good idea as there will be turkey hunters on the property.? Pat Burden Yale & Melvin, MI --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] not a bird, but an early bug From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 7 May 2008 2:23am This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- A June bug just made itself a nuisance all around my office. Very, very early. Cendra Lynn, Muggle Birder OWS, A2 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: not a bird, but an early bug From: Susan Falcone <sfalcone(AT)umich.edu> Date: 7 May 2008 6:37am --Apple-Mail-5--78757208 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed They're also known as "May beetles" ... I often see them this time of the season, just not as many. Susan Falcone A2/Superior Twp On May 7, 2008, at 2:23 AM, Cendra wrote: > A June bug just made itself a nuisance all around my office. Very, > very early. > > Cendra Lynn, Muggle Birder > OWS, A2 > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/ > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --Apple-Mail-5--78757208 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-5--78757208--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: ? some Bird ??? From: WovenWoman(AT)aol.com Date: 7 May 2008 7:25am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Thanks for taking a look Sally and Dave. I am going to go back today to see if I can get a better photo, and more details of this female rose breasted grosbeak. She had been bathing in the bird bath, and I am hoping that maybe shes got a mate close by. Namaste, Edie **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Prothonotary Warbler, Chelsea SGA, Washtenaw Co. 5/7AM From: "Dan Sparks-Jackson" <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> Date: 7 May 2008 9:29am I had a singing Prothonotary Warbler over the tannin-filled waters of the wooded wetland to the southeast of Four Mile Lake within the Chelsea State Game Area at 8:40 this morning. I've commented to others in the past that if any area in Washtenaw County deserves Prothonotaries, it is this location. The black waters, low-handing trees, and dense surrounding underbrush are textbook examples of what to expect for 'golden swamp warblers'. Apparently this particular warbler agrees with me. Considering all the woodpecker cavities in these woods, hopefully he will be able to attract a mate to this location. As such, it is with some trepidation that I post this bird. Since this is a rare breeding bird to our area, I hope that everyone can be on their very best birding behavior and not put too much pressure on the little fella. As always, lets try to keep our passion's impact to a minimum. An easy to digest and omnibus set of directives for good birding behavior is spelled out in the American Birding Association's Code of Birding Ethics. This is easy for anyone to access at the ABA's website. So here goes: to reach the bird's location, Head north on the CSGA's Four Mile Lake access drive, and look for two square green posts on the east side of the drive just south of the boat launch parking lot. Follow the trail that starts between these posts eastward. The trail will have a number of smaller hunting/game trails that fork off, but the main trail (which turns northward after about 50 yards) will take you to a large culvert with still brackish water on one side and a network of steams on the other. The 'golden one' was singing from over the still waters on the east side of the culvert. Good luck! Dan S-J --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Wednesday Arb ALIVE! From: "makielb(AT)excite.com" <makielb@excite.com> Date: 7 May 2008 10:39am Hello All: The Arb had the most spring migrants I've seen there over the past few years - 18 species of warblers including Parula (5+), Golden-winged, Blue-winged, Cape May, Blackpoll, and all the usual early warblers. Birds were clustered at the WARBLER HOT SPOT and near the fence-lince east of the caretakers area. A bird of note was a first-year male PURPLE FINCH singing at the east end of DOW FIELD. Lots of catbirds, wrens, orioles, and a few WOOD THRUSH and VEERY. It should be even better after this front passes. Good luck, Mike Kielb _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] IMBD Walk and Horseback Tour at Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge From: Steve_Kahl(AT)fws.gov Date: 7 May 2008 11:32am Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge will celebrate International Migratory Bird Day on Saturday, May 10 with two events. Saginaw Valley Audubon Society member Carolyn Szaroletta and Larry Abraham will provide a guided bird walk. The walk will begin at 7:30AM at the Ferguson Bayou Trail parking lot which is about 3 miles west of M-13 on Curtis Road. Be sure to dress for the weather and to bring binoculars, bug repellant, and shoes for walking in wet grass. The walk will be cancelled in the vent of severe weather. Horse enthusiasts have a chance to take a guided horse tour beginning at 9AM. This tour will depart from the parking lot at the west end of Evon Road off M-13. This tour will take participants through parts of the refuge that are typically closed to the general public. You must provide your own horse and make a reservation by calling Deputy Refuge Manager Ed De Vries at (989) 777-5930 ext 13. Each ride will be limited to 10 riders. The horse tour will be cancelled in the event of severe weather or soft road conditions. Steven Kahl Refuge Manager Shiawassee National Wildlife Refuge 6975 Mower Road Saginaw, MI 48601-9783 P (989) 777-5930 ext 16 F (989) 777-9200 http://www.fws.gov/midwest/shiawassee/ --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Wednesday Arb ALIVE! From: "Ray Stocking" <rstocking(AT)gmail.com> Date: 7 May 2008 11:58am Mike - Thanks for the excellent report. I almost went there this morning but decided to go to work instead (bad call obviously). Birders - Don't forget tomorrow's free Washtenaw Audubon Society walk in the Arb. Details to follow from Cathy Carroll or you can go to the website for more info. www.washtenawaudubon.org Enjoy! Ray ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: makielb(AT)excite.com <makielb(AT)excite.com> Date: Wed, May 7, 2008 at 10:39 AM Subject: [birders] Wednesday Arb ALIVE! To: birders(AT)umich.edu Hello All: The Arb had the most spring migrants I've seen there over the past few years - 18 species of warblers including Parula (5+), Golden-winged, Blue-winged, Cape May, Blackpoll, and all the usual early warblers. Birds were clustered at the WARBLER HOT SPOT and near the fence-lince east of the caretakers area. A bird of note was a first-year male PURPLE FINCH singing at the east end of DOW FIELD. Lots of catbirds, wrens, orioles, and a few WOOD THRUSH and VEERY. It should be even better after this front passes. Good luck, Mike Kielb _______________________________________________ Join Excite! - http://www.excite.com The most personalized portal on the Web! --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] A2 Landfill - N. Harrier and bobolink From: Dave Borneman <davidborneman(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 7 May 2008 9:14am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- This morning about 10:30 there was a NORTHERN HARRIER gliding low over the old landfill site in SE Ann Arbor (Platt and Ellsworth). It was over the high hills (Phase I and II for those of you "in the know"). Bobolinks and Savannah Sparrows singing in the same spot. -dave David Borneman, L.L.C. www.RestoringNatureWithFire.com 1123 Mixtwood, Ann Arbor, MI 48103 PH: 734-994-3475 Cell: 734-845-0634 FAX: 734-994-3650 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Neotropic Cormorant From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 7 May 2008 12:53pm Darlene Friedman, Macklin Smith, and I went to Grand Haven this morning for the Neotropic Cormorant. From 7:15 to 8:15 we had some "maybe" views, but we had numerous good views from 8:15 to 9:15 after the scope- buffeting winds and chop in the water died down. Walking out farther to the last shelter on the (south) jetty helped a lot, too. The cormorants were mostly 50 to 300 yards past the ends of the jetties but between them. Most of them, and the neotropic in particular, dove continually, staying up for no more than five seconds at a time. Nonetheless, we had satisfying views of the sitting bird and twice of the bird flying. The neotropic spent nearly all of its time apart from the Double-crested Cormorants, and it tended to be closer in than the other cormorants. This bird was reported first by Chip Francke on Monday. It's possible it has been at the same location for a couple of weeks, and it could stay all summer. Or it could be gone before Saturday. Other birds seen from the jetty included Red-breasted Merganser, Forster's Tern, Common Loon, Horned Grebe, Spotted Sandpiper, and Sanderling. Bruce ------------------------------------ Bruce M. Bowman Ann Arbor, Michigan USA Washtenaw Co., southeast Michigan bbowman99(AT)comcast.net http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Advice on Choosing Binoculars From: brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net Date: 7 May 2008 5:16pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I am looking for advise on binoculars. I am going on a bird watching cruise north of Scotland - the Orkneys, Shetland, Hebrides, Fair Isle, etc. I would like some advice on features to look for in binoculars for such a trip. We will be going ashore on some islands as well as taking excursions on a Zodiac. The nocs will need to be waterproof, for sure, and I think 10x or so magnification. We already have small compact 7x Nikon that are very good for reasonably close birding on land. Spotting scopes will be available for on-shore use. Would any of you have some advice for me? Off-line reply is okay. Thanks in advance, Bruce Belleville brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Tuesday Evening Birders field trip report, May 6, Washtenaw County From: Mike Sefton <mseft(AT)yahoo.com> Date: 7 May 2008 10:22am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- About 25 birders joined Washtenaw Audubon Society’s first Tuesday Evening Birders field trip of the year. This field trip was led by Lathe Claflin and Mike Sefton, with the help of WAS board members Ellie Shappirio, Sherri Smith, and Ray Stocking, and pre-trip scouting by Roger Wykes. The group car-pooled to Fraleighs Nursery on Jackson Rd., where genial ace bird finder Dan Sparks-Jackson hosted us for close views of a pair of Sandhill Cranes with two large, fuzzy chicks, a Sora, Solitary Sandpipers, and gurgling Purple Martins, as well as nesting Mourning Doves, and a fly-by Red-tailed Hawk. Our thanks to Dan and Fraleighs for allowing us to visit these birds. The next stop was Trinkle Marsh, where we managed to find the elusive not-so-Common Moorhen, playing hide and seek in the cattails. Also present were Ring-necked Ducks, Lesser Scaup, a kingfisher, a Warbling Vireo, and a pair of Pied-billed Grebes. The nesting Trumpeter Swans at Scio Church and Parker were hiding when we arrived, though one of them had been snoozing two feet from the road at 5:00pm. We heard several calling Soras, and had good views of Blue-winged Teal and Eastern Kingbird. We decided not to stop for the Great Blue Heron rookery on Ellsworth Rd., as the light was waning. The cow pond on Schneider Rd. had 20+ Solitary Sandpipers, 4+ Lesser Yellowlegs, and a couple of Least Sandpipers. After a quick drive-by of the other two ponds on Schneider Rd., we returned to the parking lot, noting that one of the Trumpeter Swans was on the nest at Scio Church and Parker as we drove past. Join us next Tuesday, May 13, at 6:00pm for the second Tuesday Evening Birders. Mike Sefton Ann Arbor http://www.washtenawaudubon.org/ --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Advice on Choosing Binoculars From: "Bruce Robertson" <roberba1(AT)msu.edu> Date: 7 May 2008 1:28pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Bruce, Given that you will be looking at birds from long distances (aboard the ship) and in closer proximity (ashore) I think you are right to go with 10x. They will, of course, be heavier. To my understanding, only roof-prism binoculars can effectively be water proofed. These are the long barrel-shaped bins as opposed to the L-shaped porro prism bins. The question as to which brand/model to buy almost always comes down to cost. There is a very tight relationship between cost and quality in binoculars, but typically the best place to buy binoculars from is always Eagle Optics online. They have consistently had the cheapest, or comparable prices for years. I have been doing ornithological research for about 10 years and have had a pair of Leica 8 x 32 trinovids..and a I LOVE them. Lifetime warrantee.they fix everything by mail, quickly, and clean them, too for free. When I bought these they were about 800 dollars. However, it is my understanding that there are now many, many options for buying roof prism waterproof binoculars that have very good optics in the $300-400 range. Cornell Lab of Ornithology used to post a buyers guide, but I'm not sure they do anymore. You might check. Anyways, my advice is to first decide about how much you want to spend, then check eagle optics and compare the models in that range. Bruce _____ From: brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net [mailto:brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:16 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Subject: [birders] Advice on Choosing Binoculars I am looking for advise on binoculars. I am going on a bird watching cruise north of Scotland - the Orkneys, Shetland, Hebrides, Fair Isle, etc. I would like some advice on features to look for in binoculars for such a trip. We will be going ashore on some islands as well as taking excursions on a Zodiac. The nocs will need to be waterproof, for sure, and I think 10x or so magnification. We already have small compact 7x Nikon that are very good for reasonably close birding on land. Spotting scopes will be available for on-shore use. Would any of you have some advice for me? Off-line reply is okay. Thanks in advance, Bruce Belleville brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Advice on Choosing Binoculars From: Steve Malson <steve(AT)masoncommunitychurch.net> Date: 7 May 2008 1:32pm --Apple-Mail-7--53856565 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252; delsp=yes; format=flowed Go to a store that has them and try the Zeiss Diafun 10x30 binocs. =20 Great glass and lighter than anything else I've found. Steve On May 7, 2008, at 1:28 PM, Bruce Robertson wrote: > Bruce, > > Given that you will be looking at birds from long distances (aboard =20= > the ship) and in closer proximity (ashore) I think you are right to =20= > go with 10x. They will, of course, be heavier. To my understanding, =20= > only roof-prism binoculars can effectively be water proofed. These =20 > are the long barrel-shaped bins as opposed to the L-shaped porro =20 > prism bins. The question as to which brand/model to buy almost =20 > always comes down to cost. There is a very tight relationship =20 > between cost and quality in binoculars, but typically the best =20 > place to buy binoculars from is always Eagle Optics online. They =20 > have consistently had the cheapest, or comparable prices for years. =20= > I have been doing ornithological research for about 10 years and =20 > have had a pair of Leica 8 x 32 trinovids=85.and a I LOVE them. =20 > Lifetime warrantee=85they fix everything by mail, quickly, and clean =20= > them, too for free. When I bought these they were about 800 =20 > dollars. However, it is my understanding that there are now many, =20 > many options for buying roof prism waterproof binoculars that have =20 > very good optics in the $300-400 range. Cornell Lab of Ornithology =20 > used to post a buyers guide, but I=92m not sure they do anymore. You =20= > might check. Anyways, my advice is to first decide about how much =20 > you want to spend, then check eagle optics and compare the models =20 > in that range. > > Bruce > > From: brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net [mailto:brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 1:16 PM > To: birders(AT)umich.edu > Subject: [birders] Advice on Choosing Binoculars > > I am looking for advise on binoculars. I am going on a bird =20 > watching cruise north of Scotland - the Orkneys, Shetland, =20 > Hebrides, Fair Isle, etc. I would like some advice on features to =20 > look for in binoculars for such a trip. We will be going ashore on =20 > some islands as well as taking excursions on a Zodiac. The nocs =20 > will need to be waterproof, for sure, and I think 10x or so =20 > magnification. We already have small compact 7x Nikon that are very =20= > good for reasonably close birding on land. Spotting scopes will be =20 > available for on-shore use. Would any of you have some advice for =20 > me? Off-line reply is okay. > > Thanks in advance, > Bruce > Belleville > brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/=20 > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the =20 > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/=20 > photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the =20 > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --Apple-Mail-7--53856565 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1252 ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-7--53856565--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Advice on Choosing Binoculars From: "Ray Stocking" <rstocking(AT)gmail.com> Date: 7 May 2008 1:51pm Bruce, Why not support your local business? Try Jerry Sadowski over at Adray Camera in Dearborn (www.adray.com). Top-notch service with excellent selection. He will not push you to buy expensive. He will, however, encourage you to buy what feels right for you. He talked my father out of an $800 pair of binocs and sold him a $280 Nikon Monarch. Jerry's that kind of guy. My father has been very pleased with the results (and he saved $500!!!). Adray Appliance Photo & Sound 20219 Carlysle St Dearborn, MI 48124 (313) 274-9500 If not Adray, try a locally owned business close(r) to you. Good luck! Ray On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:16 PM, <brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net> wrote: > > I am looking for advise on binoculars. I am going on a bird watching cruise > north of Scotland - the Orkneys, Shetland, Hebrides, Fair Isle, etc. I would > like some advice on features to look for in binoculars for such a trip. We > will be going ashore on some islands as well as taking excursions on a > Zodiac. The nocs will need to be waterproof, for sure, and I think 10x or so > magnification. We already have small compact 7x Nikon that are very good for > reasonably close birding on land. Spotting scopes will be available for > on-shore use. Would any of you have some advice for me? Off-line reply is > okay. > > Thanks in advance, > Bruce > Belleville > brucethayer1(AT)comcast.net --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - > http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject > line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. > --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Prothonotary Warbler, Chelsea SGA, Washtenaw Co. 5/7AM From: Bob Arthurs <bob.arthurs(AT)sbcglobal.net> Date: 7 May 2008 11:10am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- I saw Dan's little jewel at 1:25 this afternoon. I had been there about an hour and was leaving - I had already left the area the Prothonotary is in when I heard it calling and turned around. I'm chagrined to add it then took me several minutes to actually see it. I want to stress what Dan said about not pressuring the bird. I saw it enter and leave a hole in a stump quite appropriate for a Prothonotary Warbler nest so I think there's a reasonable chance that it will stick around at least a few days. See below for directions to the spot in CSGA. Bob Arthurs Dan Sparks-Jackson <sparksjackson(AT)aol.com> wrote: I had a singing Prothonotary Warbler over the tannin-filled waters of the wooded wetland to the southeast of Four Mile Lake within the Chelsea State Game Area at 8:40 this morning. I've commented to others in the past that if any area in Washtenaw County deserves Prothonotaries, it is this location. The black waters, low-handing trees, and dense surrounding underbrush are textbook examples of what to expect for 'golden swamp warblers'. Apparently this particular warbler agrees with me. Considering all the woodpecker cavities in these woods, hopefully he will be able to attract a mate to this location. As such, it is with some trepidation that I post this bird. Since this is a rare breeding bird to our area, I hope that everyone can be on their very best birding behavior and not put too much pressure on the little fella. As always, lets try to keep our passion's impact to a minimum. An easy to digest and omnibus set of directives for good birding behavior is spelled out in the American Birding Association's Code of Birding Ethics. This is easy for anyone to access at the ABA's website. So here goes: to reach the bird's location, Head north on the CSGA's Four Mile Lake access drive, and look for two square green posts on the east side of the drive just south of the boat launch parking lot. Follow the trail that starts between these posts eastward. The trail will have a number of smaller hunting/game trails that fork off, but the main trail (which turns northward after about 50 yards) will take you to a large culvert with still brackish water on one side and a network of steams on the other. The 'golden one' was singing from over the still waters on the east side of the culvert. Good luck! Dan S-J --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Kentucky Warbler, White-eyed Viireo - Jackson County - PLU From: "Don Henise" <don_henise(AT)ntm.org> Date: 7 May 2008 2:13pm Wednesday morning at the Portage Lake Unit in Waterloo Township in Jackson County, Joyce Peterson discovered a singing White-eyed Vireo. He was near the lake edge in the brush to the left of the picnic pavilion that overlooks the lake to the west of the beach area. After Robyn & I checked out the vireo we were walking back to our car in the boat launch parking lot when we heard a Kentucky Warbler singing in the same woodlot. This is the woodlot to the right as your walk down to the boat launch ramps. He was circling around this small woodlot between the boat launch and the picnic pavilion mentioned above, singing pretty much continually. At one point he came fairly close to the edge near the boat launch road and we both got brief, but good views of the bird. This was a new Jackson County bird for us. Other than that we had pretty much the same birds that Joyce had reported in the area on Tuesday. Don Henise   Librarian New Tribes Bible Institute Jackson, MI don_henise(AT)ntm.org --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] FW: Killdeer on nest, St. Clair county From: "Cendra" <cendra(AT)digitalrealm.net> Date: 7 May 2008 2:35pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Absolutely magical! Thank you Cendra Lynn, Muggle Birder OWS, A2 _____ From: Russell Emmons [mailto:birdeland(AT)pasty.net] Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2008 11:33 PM To: birders(AT)umich.edu Cc: BWAudubonYahoogroup Subject: [birders] Killdeer on nest, St. Clair county Birders: I just posted 2 photos of a Killdeer on a nest one showing eggs at the Grove street album http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html I took these pics at the little feed store just across the road from our now famous local Palms Elementary School which has hosted among others in the past year or so Bohemian Waxwings, Saw-Whet Owl, Long-eared Owl (shameless plug ! ) Russ Emmons, St. Clair county --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: Advice on Choosing Binoculars From: waynef(AT)provide.net Date: 7 May 2008 6:37pm The question about 10x vs lower magnifications is always controversial, but here is the argument for lower magnifications - expecially if you will be using them on a boat. Higher magnification magnifies any movement of the binoculars. The extra blur that creates can be enough to nullify any advantage you get from the higher magnification. I've tried comparing similar quality 10x and 7x binocs. I was simply trying to test whether I could pick out details at 10x that I could not at 7x. If I have the binocs braced against something, then the answer is clearly yes. But if I am hand-holding them, then the answer is maybe just a little bit or maybe not. It It seems to depend on exactly what I am looking at.If there was a gain, it was very small. From a Zodiac, which is likely to be unstable, I don't think that higher magnification would gain anything. What you give up with higher magnification is the wider field of view of the lower magnification. It increases the chances that the bird will fly off before you find it in the binocs. Cornell's "Living Bird" publication did a review a few months ago. Wayne Fisher --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] changes at Crane Creek/Magee Marsh From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net> Date: 7 May 2008 3:32pm ------- Forwarded message follows ------- Date sent: Wed, 7 May 2008 14:42:40 -0400 Send reply to: "Warren, Mary" <Mary.Warren(AT)DNR.STATE.OH.US> From: "Warren, Mary" <Mary.Warren(AT)DNR.STATE.OH.US> Subject: Re: [Ohio-birds] Magee Marsh and Crane Creek To: OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU As of May 1st, Crane Creek State Park is being transferred from Ohio State Parks to the Ohio Department of Natural Resources Division of Wildlife to be managed as part of Magee Marsh State Wildlife Area that has recently received national attention in Birders World and Wild Bird magazines The area will continue to be open to the public for wildlife observation, fishing, and walking. Access for fishing and birding will be improved. Portions of the area will be allowed to grow up to become wildlife habitat, including the beach and part of the existing parking lot. Enough parking will be maintained for visitors during peak birding seasons. Swimmers have the options of going to nearly Maumee Bay State Park ( to the west) or East Harbor State Park to the east. The existing pit latrine will be removed and portable toilets will be installed. The transfer will save Ohio State Parks about $20,000 annually in maintenance and patrol expenses. The Division of Wildlife will be responsible for the maintenance and enforcement patrols. This transfer will only be plus for birds and birders. Happy Birding Mary Warren Magee Marsh -----Original Message----- From: Ohio birds [mailto:OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU] On Behalf Of Bill Whan Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2008 2:01 PM To: OHIO-BIRDS(AT)LISTSERV.MUOHIO.EDU Subject: [Ohio-birds] Magee Marsh and Crane Creek I have been told on good authority that the Crane Creek State Park property has been transferred from the Division of Parks to the Division of Wildlife (Magee Marsh WA), effective 1 May 2008. I welcome correction from those who know more than I on this topic. I assume press releases, etc., will be forthcoming about this change. We will all learn more soon. What will the Division of Wildlife will do with this property? Much of the the currently very rare wooded beach ridge habitat--what makes the Magee Marsh bird trail so significant for migrant passerines--was destroyed to make the extravagantly large State Park parking lot. In fact, the whole area took quite a beating from three governmental agencies--Parks, Wildlife, and the Ottawa Refuge--and the public, over the years as they all had their separate ways with it. Some rancor developed, but with time--and efforts by birders--migrant passerines were generally recognized as the major beneficiaries of what little remained. The fact that tourists came from around the world to observe them did not go unnoticed either. Nor did the fact that we all take our toll on the habitat. What's going to happen, I wonder, to that huge, dry, barren parking lot, as well as any sand, etc., delivered to the site to support the beach? Eliminating it could eventually lead to a doubling or more of the critical habitat, with partial restoration of its role in the lives of migrant birds. Seldom do Ohioans have an opportunity to actually increase such an endangered habitat. But, some will ask, even if we have lots more habitat and lots more birds, where will we park when we come to see them? A fair, if selfish, question. There may be less critical areas off to the east along the shore for fewer vehicles, but I recommend we follow the Canadians and not use critical bird habitat for parking. At Point Pelee, they run shuttle buses from parking lots in less important areas during busy seasons. Probably during much of the year at Magee a much smaller parking lot well east of the current one would serve. Or we could walk. We'd probably see a lot more that way. I hope ODOW will opt for wildlife--especially birds--rather than humans as they manage this property. Their record is spotty in this regard. As for us birders, if we can't sacrifice a small convenience for the good of birds, I don't see how we can expect anyone else to. What do others think? Bill Whan Columbus ______________________________________________________________________ Ohio-birds mailing list, a service of the Ohio Ornithological Society. Our thanks to Miami University for hosting this mailing list. Additional discussions can be found in our forums, at www.ohiobirds.org/forum/. You can join or leave the list, or change your options, at: http://listserv.muohio.edu/scripts/wa.exe?LIST=OHIO-BIRDS Send questions or comments about the list to: listowner(AT)ohiobirds.org ------- End of forwarded message ------- --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Rain Birds in the Yard From: Dave Sing <dsing(AT)umich.edu> Date: 7 May 2008 3:52pm Howdy. A nice array of singing birds out behind the house in the rain. Wood thrushes seem to have rushed in, and at least four are singing and 'whip-whip-whip!'ing in the lower scrub. Catbirds, Carolina and House wrens, Baltimore and Orchard oriole, Robins, Rose-breasted grosbeaks, Indigos, Yellow and a Common yellowthroat are all chiming in. Earlier at dawn there was a Cape May, Magnolia, American redstart, Tennessee, Red-eyed. Warbling and Yellow-throated vireo, and a mess of birds I couldn't i.d. Cheers DBS Chelsea MI --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Swifts From: Plynkny(AT)aol.com Date: 7 May 2008 5:39pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Two Chimney Swifts arrived in my West Dearborn neighborhood late this afternoon. Lynn **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Adray Camera at Magee Marsh this Saturday From: JerSadowsk(AT)aol.com Date: 7 May 2008 11:14pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Dear Birders, Adray Camera will be at Magee Marsh, in Ohio on Saturday May 10th. from 9am to 5pm, for International Migratory Bird Day. We will be selling binoculars, spotting scopes, tripods and related accessories with special sale pricing on all Leica and Nikon birding optics. We will also have products from Bushnell, Bogen (Manfrotto), Gitzo, Canon, Pentax, Optech and Swarovski. Magee Marsh is on State Route 2, twenty-five miles east of Toledo and seventeen miles west of Port Clinton, Ohio. For more information on other events this day at Magee Marsh, Ottawa National Wildlife Refuge and Maumee Bay State Park call the Crane Creek Wildlife Research Station at (419) 898-0960. For more information on birding optics or the Leica and Nikon sale please call or e-mail me. Thanks and Good Birding, Jerry Sadowski Adray Camera 20219 Carlysle Dearbon, MI 48124 800-652-3729 313-274-9500 www.adraycamera.com **************Wondering what's for Dinner Tonight? Get new twists on family favorites at AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/dinner-tonight?NCID=aolfod00030000000001) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----

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