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UMichBirders for Wednesday, July 1, 2009

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 [birders] RE: Huge declines in UK woodland birds  Roger Kuhlman   11:17am 
 [birders] OT: Inappropriate posting  Dan Ezekiel   12:01pm 
 [birders] bobolinks  Sherri Smith   1:01pm 
 [birders] Re:Bobolinks  Roger Kuhlman   2:42pm 
 [birders] Holland Ponds update  Robert Setzer  8:32pm 
 [birders] ID Help  MARSACKATOM(AT)aol.com  9:43pm 
 [birders] Re: ID Help  CATHERINE CARROLL   10:27pm 
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[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] RE: Huge declines in UK woodland birds From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 1 Jul 2009 11:17am ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Deforestation and loss of natural habitats and native ecosystems put a terr= ible burden on the biodiversity of birds and other animals. What causes def= orestation and loss of natural habitats and native ecosystems? How about hu= man overpopulation and ecologically excessive consumption of natural resour= ces! Yet President Obama and the current political elites that rule this co= untry favor and are putting into place demographic policies that will conti= nue and in the near future greatly increase the high human population growt= h rates in the United States of adding more than 3 million people each year= to our population. By 2050 our country could easily approach a total popul= ation of 500 million people! Just think about what 500 million people in Am= erica living the average American lifestyle of excessive consumption will d= o for both the American and Worldwide environments. If you want more deforestation=2C fewer natural habitats=2C and less biodiv= ersity=2C by all means go with Obama's policies of high human population gr= owth in America. Roger Kuhlman Ann Arbor=2C Michigan 7/1/2009 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] OT: Inappropriate posting From: Dan Ezekiel <ezekiel(AT)aaps.k12.mi.us> Date: 1 Jul 2009 12:01pm --Apple-Mail-20--278577321 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit The second half of this posting (the screed against Pres. Obama) is clearly out of bounds for birders. Roger, you are entitled to your opinion (and you are a terrific birder and butterflyer), but at the very minimum, this posting should have been labeled OT! Happy Birding, Dan Ezekiel On Jul 1, 2009, at 11:17 AM, Roger Kuhlman wrote: > Deforestation and loss of natural habitats and native ecosystems put > a terrible burden on the biodiversity of birds and other animals. > What causes deforestation and loss of natural habitats and native > ecosystems? How about human overpopulation and ecologically > excessive consumption of natural resources! Yet President Obama and > the current political elites that rule this country favor and are > putting into place demographic policies that will continue and in > the near future greatly increase the high human population growth > rates in the United States of adding more than 3 million people each > year to our population. By 2050 our country could easily approach a > total population of 500 million people! Just think about what 500 > million people in America living the average American lifestyle of > excessive consumption will do for both the American and Worldwide > environments. > > If you want more deforestation, fewer natural habitats, and less > biodiversity, by all means go with Obama's policies of high human > population growth in America. > > Roger Kuhlman > Ann Arbor, Michigan > 7/1/2009 > --- > * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html > * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html > > * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to > lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the > Subject line. To > resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. Dan Ezekiel ezekiel(AT)aaps.k12.mi.us --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. --Apple-Mail-20--278577321 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable ----DELETED HTML-ENCODED SECTION---- --Apple-Mail-20--278577321--
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] bobolinks From: Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu> Date: 1 Jul 2009 1:01pm Lisa, Farmers cut hay to maximize protein content. No one wants to feed their cows or horses worthless hay. So they have to do it when they do or it loses value fast. It won't be easy to convince a farmer to delay cutting. Sherri Smith --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re:Bobolinks From: Roger Kuhlman <rkuhlman(AT)hotmail.com> Date: 1 Jul 2009 2:42pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- By hay are we talking about alfalfa-clover mixes? If so=2C I didn't know th= ey had a significant protein content. =20 I thought the cutting of alfalfa-clover mixes was maximized on quantity and= re-growth potential of the crop. =20 Roger Kuhlman =20 :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::= :::::::::::::::: Sherri Wrote: =20 Lisa=2C Farmers cut hay to maximize protein content. No one wants to feed =20 their cows or horses worthless hay. So they have to do it when they =20 do or it loses value fast. It won't be easy to convince a farmer to =20 delay cutting. Sherri Smith --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Holland Ponds update From: "Robert Setzer" <doctorbass(AT)comcast.net> Date: 1 Jul 2009 8:32pm This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- Well, the heron kids are leaving - fast! We at least hope they chose to leave, rather than being blown out by the fierce storms that hit Macomb Co. at the end of last week. We went there Monday morning (June 29) for a couple of hours. Following our normal pattern, we walked the long way to the rookery - i.e., down the main road to Waterfowl Pond, around west toward the treatment plant, then back to the rookery. Species list follows. All of the heron nests look fine (truly amazing architecture to build with "chopsticks"!). The oldest (top) nest (where "Junior" lived) now has only one kid in it instead of the original "fab four". Other kids in the same tree were also missing from the nests. The kids that are left are actively flapping, lifting off, and thinking about leaving home (I presume.). On another set of nests, we watched a kid actually leave home (something I had wanted to see!), then fly a circle route and come back to the nest (I really wondered if they left forever once they lifted off, or just practiced). So . now what? Are the parents teaching them to fish? How do they find each other? Or, maybe, do they stay home until a parent comes to take them on a "special fishing expedition" (and then "dumps them" after the lesson)? How do they learn? Yes, always questions!!! Soon we will see empty nests. We felt sad already (yes, I know it is silly!) that "our kids" were leaving home- what will it be like without seeing the kids when we go to Holland Ponds? But, what a wonderful spring to be able to witness the entire heron nesting process for the first time!!!! What a treasure! Species list: Chickadees RWBBs Robins Tree Swallows (both parents feeding kids in some nest boxes - decent pics - mostly the parents do not even go into the box anymore - guess the kids are getting big and waiting at the door with open mouths!) Cedar Waxwing Great Egret Catbirds (several - these are like Cendra's Robins to us - they talk to us, and they are unafraid! They tell us many stories - we just wish we understood!) Bluebirds Jays Eastern Kingbird - in the same place by the shelter, but this time eating a moth! - (decent pic! Cool!) Possible Orchard Oriole sighting, but too brief to be sure Cardinals (heard) Some dinky bird - prob. Blue Gray Gnatcatcher Downy Woodpecker Grackles Goldfinches Wood ducks (finally saw some again! It looked like nursery school or an extended family -one female and seven fairly large kids) Green Heron flying (another birder briefly saw one fishing) And we saw a few dinky toads still hopping around in shaded areas between lakes. We especially enjoyed seeing parents with a "dinky kid" passing along their fascination with nature! The kid loved the toads (and, BTW, was not allowed to touch). It's always fun!!! We never know what we will see. (I have not posted pics yet.) Cheers! "Dr. Bob" Setzer Streamwood Estates, Rochester Hills (Crooks & Hamlin), Oakland County "Give a man a fish, and he will eat for a day." Teaching a man to "bird" is much harder! --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] ID Help From: MARSACKATOM(AT)aol.com Date: 1 Jul 2009 9:43pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- This evening I looked out my window and saw what I thought was a robin, smaller possibly, eating the old cherries I had put out under a tree. The only thing was, this bird had a white spot about the size of a dime on both wingtips. Any help? Thanks, KM **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005) --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----
[ << | >> | ^^ ] Subject: [birders] Re: ID Help From: CATHERINE CARROLL <songsparrow(AT)wowway.com> Date: 1 Jul 2009 10:27pm ----INCLUDING text/plain MIME SECTION---- KM, Check your field guide for the possibility of Eastern Towhee.=20 Cathy Carroll=20 Dearborn, MI=20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From: MARSACKATOM(AT)aol.com=20 To: birders(AT)umich.edu=20 Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2009 9:43:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern=20 Subject: [birders] ID Help=20 This evening I looked out my window and saw what I thought was a robin, sma= ller possibly, eating the old cherries I had put out under a tree.=C2=A0 Th= e only thing was, this bird had a white spot about the size of a dime on bo= th wingtips.=C2=A0 Any help?=C2=A0 Thanks, KM=20 Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. ---=20 * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html=20 * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.h= tml=20 * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to=20 lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line= . To=20 resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name.=20 --- * birders FAQ - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/birders_FAQ.html * photo sharing site - http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html * To unsubscribe from birders(AT)umich.edu send a blank message to lyris(AT)listserver.itd.umich.edu with UNSUBSCRIBE BIRDERS as the Subject line. To resubscribe use SUBSCRIBE BIRDERS Your Name. ----DELETED text/html MIME SECTION----

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