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Subject: [birders] OT : asking for birding trip tip
From: laurent fournier <laurentfournier2003(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 6:12am
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Hi All=0A=0AI was wondering if some of you guys=A0had any recommendation fo=
r a birding trip somewhere in the US (maybe september).=A0We have now a tin=
y baby with us, so obviously, we have considerable constraints.=A0In a perf=
ect world, it would be a=A0hotel/bed and breakfeast=A0in/or extremely close=
from a nice area to bird, and not too far from a major airport. =0A=0ALast=
=A0Chrismast we=A0went to Fort Meyers Beach, in a hotel located=A0a few fee=
ts away from=A0a local hot spot (esterego lagoon) and it was exactly what w=
e needed. We are looking for the same=A0kind of place, for the month of sep=
tember/october, possibly not in Florida=0A=0AAny tip or advise would be gre=
atly appreciated.=0A=0A=A0=0ALaurent=A0and Diane=A0=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: [birders] Re: Chimney Swifts Location Needed for Kids
From: jrscmcd(AT)aol.com
Date: 7 Jul 2009 10:08am
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Hi all,
Our grandsons are visiting and would love to see the chimney swifts do their
evening descent.? Can anyone tell us a good location,?as well as?the best time,
for showing them this cool phenomenon?
Thank you.
Sharon McDonald
Professor Emeritus/Zoology
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Subject: [birders] egg shell, unknown species
From: "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 2:00pm
I've put a couple of photos of egg shells of an unknown species of bird
at the photo sharing site:
http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html
Seeking ID help.
Bruce
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Ann Arbor, Michigan USA
Washtenaw Co., southeast Michigan
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Subject: [birders] Re: egg shell, unknown species
From: ddarm(AT)umich.edu
Date: 7 Jul 2009 2:17pm
I would guess Spotted Sandpiper. And it's just a guess but it is the
right size and habitat and general appearance. I've found them along
Douglas Lake and at the landfill here in Ann Arbor. Pretty sure it
isn't Piping Plover which would have smaller spots.
Dea
Quoting "Bruce M. Bowman" <bbowman99(AT)comcast.net>:
> I've put a couple of photos of egg shells of an unknown species of bird
> at the photo sharing site:
>
> http://www.umich.edu/~bbowman/birds/se_mich/photos.html
>
> Seeking ID help.
>
> Bruce
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Subject: [birders] RFI
From: "Rick and Barb Lucas" <lucasbirders(AT)comcast.net>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 2:22pm
All,
I will be in SE MI for the last two weeks of July and would appreciate any
help in locating the following:
1. Golden-winged warbler
2. An individual I used to bird with. His first name is Pat and he was
(perhaps still is) the field trip leader for Kensington Audubon.
Thanks in advance for any help you may be able to provide.
Rick Lucas
Sebastian, FL
formerly Milford, MI
Also, if anyone I used to bird with is interested in joining me for some
birding while I'm in MI, please contact me off list. I have a lot of fond
memories from my birding days in MI.
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Subject: [birders] Owl retraction and help needed.
From: "linda ar" <birdar101(AT)hotmail.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 7:56pm
ok OK I give, so I don't know my owls as well as I thought I might. I
concede that these may have been Saw-whet owls but they looked to be at
least 10-12 inches tall and all the same size. I have included a picture
link at Picasa, because it is very dark and I had not planned on posting
it but with all this hoopla I am interested in what you all have to say
about it. I listened to my Stokes calls as well as others last night and
the only call that sounded remotely like the ones going on between all of
these owls was the short-eared. With that, please take a look and see if
you can make out what this owl is. It may very well be an adult, in which
case they would have all been adults because they were all the same size.
I could not see any downy feathers on this one (not sure if any of the
others had downy or not). If they were all adult Saw-whets, what were they
all doing together, making these sort of cooing buzzing sounds and
following each other from branch to branch?
Thanks for all the information and especially D.S. for your gentle and
kind decorum,
Linda Ar
You may have to cut and paste:
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Subject: [birders] Re: Owl retraction and help needed.
From: CATHERINE CARROLL <songsparrow(AT)wowway.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 8:45pm
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Linda,
I admit I, too, was surprised when you reported Short-eared Owls. I'm also
finding it difficult to think they were Saw-whet Owls. I had a look at your
photo, but you really can't tell from it. What about Eastern Screech? They would
at least be possible for your area?
I hope this is also a nice rebuttal.
Cathy Carroll
Dearborn, MI
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To: birders(AT)umich.edu
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Subject: [birders] Owl retraction and help needed.
ok OK I give, so I don't know my owls as well as I thought I might. I
concede that these may have been Saw-whet owls but they looked to be at
least 10-12 inches tall and all the same size. I have included a picture
link at Picasa, because it is very dark and I had not planned on posting
it but with all this hoopla I am interested in what you all have to say
about it. I listened to my Stokes calls as well as others last night and
the only call that sounded remotely like the ones going on between all of
these owls was the short-eared. With that, please take a look and see if
you can make out what this owl is. It may very well be an adult, in which
case they would have all been adults because they were all the same size.
I could not see any downy feathers on this one (not sure if any of the
others had downy or not). If they were all adult Saw-whets, what were they
all doing together, making these sort of cooing buzzing sounds and
following each other from branch to branch?
Thanks for all the information and especially D.S. for your gentle and
kind decorum,
Linda Ar
You may have to cut and paste:
http://picasaweb.google.com/LindaJeanineAr/WhatOwlIsThat?feat=directlink
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Subject: [birders] nesting killdeer
From: Sherri Smith <grackle(AT)umich.edu>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 8:54pm
I keep a horse at a local boarding stable. Last week when I was
riding in our out door arena (coarse sand) I saw a killdeer hanging
around the same place consistently. Finally she sat down in a hollow
place made by a horse print and atayed there a while. When she got
up, there was an egg! When I finished my ride, I got traffic cones to
mark and protect the nest. Unlike all the other nests I've seen, this
one was carefully made. The entire surface of it was covered with
very small flat rocks, so the egg didn't actually touch the sand.
Well, something went wrong with that nest, but yesterday when I was
riding, the same thing happened in a different place. Again I
actually saw her lay the egg. I moved the traffic cone, and this nest
was even better than last week's and included tiny flat pieces of
wood. Because it is vital that all the babies hatch simultaneously so
they can all go off together, the mother can't sett on the eggs until
she lays the last one. i hope she is luckier with this nest, i think
i'll take out a tomato cage tomorrow. All of this is near the corner
of Textile and Dell Roads, south west of Ann Arbor.
Sherri Smith
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Subject: [birders] Re: Owl retraction and help needed.
From: Sarah Toner <strix09(AT)gmail.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 9:56pm
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From the looks of it, definitely Eastern Screech. I can just barely make out
the ear tufts. Unless you live by a farm, it is almost impossible to get a
Short-eared Owl. I'm not certain about their behavior though. Maybe with
young?
Sarah, NE Ann Arbor
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, CATHERINE CARROLL
<songsparrow(AT)wowway.com>wrote:
> Linda,I admit I, too, was surprised when you reported Short-eared Owls.
> I'm also finding it difficult to think they were Saw-whet Owls. I had a
> look at your photo, but you really can't tell from it. What about Eastern
> Screech? They would at least be possible for your area?
>
> I hope this is also a nice rebuttal.
>
> Cathy Carroll
> Dearborn, MI
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "linda ar" <birdar101(AT)hotmail.com>
> To: birders(AT)umich.edu
> Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:56:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
> Subject: [birders] Owl retraction and help needed.
>
> ok OK I give, so I don't know my owls as well as I thought I might. I
> concede that these may have been Saw-whet owls but they looked to be at
> least 10-12 inches tall and all the same size. I have included a picture
> link at Picasa, because it is very dark and I had not planned on posting
> it but with all this hoopla I am interested in what you all have to say
> about it. I listened to my Stokes calls as well as others last night and
> the only call that sounded remotely like the ones going on between all of
> these owls was the short-eared. With that, please take a look and see if
> you can make out what this owl is. It may very well be an adult, in which
> case they would have all been adults because they were all the same size.
> I could not see any downy feathers on this one (not sure if any of the
> others had downy or not). If they were all adult Saw-whets, what were they
> all doing together, making these sort of cooing buzzing sounds and
> following each other from branch to branch?
>
> Thanks for all the information and especially D.S. for your gentle and
> kind decorum,
> Linda Ar
>
> You may have to cut and paste:
> http://picasaweb.google.com/LindaJeanineAr/WhatOwlIsThat?feat=directlink
>
>
>
>
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From the looks of it, definitely Eastern Screech. I can just barely make ou=
t the ear tufts. Unless you live by a farm, it is almost impossible to get =
a Short-eared Owl. I'm not certain about their behavior though. Maybe w=
ith young?<div>
<br></div><div>Sarah, NE Ann Arbor<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue=
, Jul 7, 2009 at 8:45 PM, CATHERINE CARROLL <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=
=3D"mailto:songsparrow(AT)wowway.com">songsparrow(AT)wowway.com</a>></span> wr=
ote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Times New Ro=
man;font-size:10pt;color:#000000">Linda,<div>I admit I, too, was surprised =
when you reported Short-eared Owls. =A0I'm also finding it difficult to=
think they were Saw-whet Owls. =A0I had a look at your photo, but you real=
ly can't tell from it. =A0What about Eastern Screech? =A0They would at =
least be possible for your area? =A0</div>
<div><br></div><div>I hope this is also a nice rebuttal.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>Cathy Carroll</div><div>Dearborn, MI =A0<div><div></div><div class=
=3D"h5"><br>----- Original Message -----<br>From: "linda ar" <=
<a href=3D"mailto:birdar101(AT)hotmail.com" target=3D"_blank">birdar101@hotmai=
l.com</a>><br>
To: <a href=3D"mailto:birders(AT)umich.edu" target=3D"_blank">birders(AT)umich.ed=
u</a><br>Sent: Tuesday, July 7, 2009 7:56:57 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Easter=
n<br>Subject: [birders] Owl retraction and help needed.<br><br>ok OK I give=
, so I don't know my owls as well as I thought I might. =A0I<br>
concede that these may have been Saw-whet owls but they looked to be at<br>=
least 10-12 inches tall and all the same size. =A0I have included a picture=
<br>link at Picasa, because it is very dark and I had not planned on postin=
g<br>
it but with all this hoopla I am interested in what you all have to say<br>=
about it. =A0I listened to my Stokes calls as well as others last night and=
<br>the only call that sounded remotely like the ones going on between all =
of<br>
these owls was the short-eared. =A0With that, please take a look and see if=
<br>you can make out what this owl is. =A0It may very well be an adult, in =
which<br>case they would have all been adults because they were all the sam=
e size. <br>
I could not see any downy feathers on this one (not sure if any of the<br>o=
thers had downy or not). If they were all adult Saw-whets, what were they<b=
r>all doing together, making these sort of cooing buzzing sounds and<br>
following each other from branch to branch?<br><br>Thanks for all the infor=
mation and especially D.S. for your gentle and<br>kind decorum,<br>Linda Ar=
<br><br>You may have to cut and paste:<br><a href=3D"http://picasaweb.googl=
e.com/LindaJeanineAr/WhatOwlIsThat?feat=3Ddirectlink" target=3D"_blank">htt=
p://picasaweb.google.com/LindaJeanineAr/WhatOwlIsThat?feat=3Ddirectlink</a>=
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Subject: [birders] Sandhill Cranes killing permitted
From: Jessica Bright <knittycat1-bird(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 7:02pm
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I was looking for info on Granholm's plan to give back Wetland oversight to=
the federal government, to save few dollars on the 2010 budget, since this=
is not a political website, I will not comment further on this (except to =
that I incidentally found assoc press article dated earlier today that NWF =
released a report saying that many areas still threatened b/c Michigan does=
poor job in this anyway) but to my surprise I found this article on mlive.=
com when I clicked on link to blog about Michigan nature: =0A=0Ahttp://www.=
mlive.com/outdoors/index.ssf/2009/07/farmers_can_get_permits_to_kil.html=0A=
=0AI wonder what they do that is so damaging to farms anyway? I have read =
that in the past, there was widespread killing of birds of prey b/c people =
thought they were eating crop seeds or some such. It really seems like the=
y could make a recording of Sandhill Crane distress call and give free copi=
es of it to farmers--distress calls have worked wonders for getting rid of =
the Starlings overtaking my yard, I would think a bird like Sandhill Cranes=
would react to distress calls strongly. =0A=0AI sent a message to Michigan=
Audubon society, but did not know who else to contact; any suggestions?=0A=
=0AThanks, Jessica Bright
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Subject: [birders] Bird photos
From: Douglas Jackson <dglsjcksn(AT)yahoo.com>
Date: 7 Jul 2009 7:14pm
Dear Fellow Birders. Here is a link to my bird photos:
www.dougjacksonsbirds.shutterfly.com
There are many images including osprey, swans, herons, and an egret at
Kensington, Cranes and many others at Hudson Mills, lots of birds at Tawas last
May and many others from around home. They're all in alphabetical order.
Comments are welcome.
Doug Jackson
Dexter, MI
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